S-FM 306: Mafia Wars (13p Ongoing)

[Renegade]

Nice bucket of paint you have there.

Nah if I was convinced you were scum I'd already have voted you. You will reveal your alignment soon enough.

[DS.]

Huh?


I hope this was a misunderstanding from you.


If you check the post progression:


#344 I am pointing out a weird detail about Varcron's coaster list on #338 which had DM in it and had DS townread on #336.


I wasn't the only one to catch this detail about Varcron btw, on next page I have seen multiple people point this out and I am not sure how did Varcron handle that, I kinda lost track of him since MM and him are at each others throat.

In no way I have thrown you in any scum pit DS.


I am pretty much ok with majority here. Tried to find inconsistencies with people so I could contribute to right lynching today. For a long time, I had no one on my yeet list for D1. Suspicious things happened but I am trying my best to see them as human mistakes so I don't really go down in the rabbit hole. Thus, I really dislike what our chicken tried to pull off on me and maybe MM. I had the thoughts there with Chicken's game drastically changing after the brutalizer event. This is pinging me a lot honestly.


Tell me, how do you only townread chicken? I am trying to understand you and chicken's perspective here. Am I missing something about them?

Misread then. I thought you were saying to take DM out and replace them with me

[DS.]

I am rereading DS. posts but I can't quite see an attack there. It does look like they are tryina take the heat from themselves and push it off on you and varcron which I really dislike.


Especially #431 right after naz's #428. Honestly, I am having same thoughts here like DM when it comes to my personal POE, I would rather wait for chicken, varcron and DS to give their final say before I place a vote since we are about to begin EOD1. DS. was quite ok to slappin a few posts throwing shade at me and MM then a naked vote. I don't like this at all.


I don't know scum!MM, I haven't met him before. He was always town in my games so I am not sure what to expect. But I am doing my best to understand MM here he seems a bit cornered by the people from my POE which makes me think lynching MM would end bad.

Like, if scum!MM would bus anyone or pocket anyone then where is the evidence? He is dead set on varcron which is justified imo and he is still suspicious of me which is again justified lol i don't feel any different with him or varcron. SO if he isn't pocketing me which I really don't think he is then I find MM genuine here with his position. Varcron pulled off a Mike/Blink play here with the janitor claim but I think he took the bad parts from them when making his strategy.

@MM do you remember how Mike went crazy when I called him "karen" and placed a vote pointing out the antitown strat he is pullin? I am hoping to get same reaction from some people here as I try those things but well varcron didn't really give same reaction so I am thinking Varcron might have studied all of that well. Still, thats scum!Varcron. I wanted to believe there is a town!Varcron we are not supposed to lynch D1 because they have a potential to carry this game. Varcron and Auwt are two people that know me the most when it comes to Mafia so believe me I am extra cautious when I am reading both of them. I put more effort in two.

Back to the basics, we need a lynch happen today. Varcron claim janitor doesnt sit right with me
It puts him in a positions to easily take advantage of both day and night mechanics and that is nicht nicht
If this claim is true or not, either way it gives him grounds to capitalize on others. this could either end great for gambino or terrible. i am not sure if I want to gamble on that.

Townpov this is very risky and i don't see town!Varcron optin for such strat while making mistakes like townreading DS. putting DM in coasters. Then again, I don't see why town!Varcron would claim TvT so easily on #125. Frinck was questioning MM while Light_Yagami was in between MM/Frinck on #96 but then first checks MM on #101 and then breadcrumbs his move on #123. We are going to see the flips soon with Light and Frinck but honestly I find it less likely to be TvT according to my reads this game, chicken claimed this is most probably TvT. Frinck had an "interesting" exchange with DS. early on and called MM horseshit which I still find it baseless. I was thinking most of that was shitposting but the more I read the RTI between people, the more ideas I am getting. That is not good.

I don't know why people are voting MM based on Frinck's "horseshit" read on MM. I am missing out something here.

In short, I still think DS. lynch would be the best option today and if that isn't happening then I will wait for both varcron and chicken to QUACK before I join one of the votes. we must get a lynch done today and i am not going to vote MM today, i am never ever voting Naz this game even if they lynch me, I am not voting DM, Auwt or Banana and not voting the coaster duo Mesk Ren today. I think lynching DS. could be our safest bet considering the early game interactions, compared to lynching Varcron. So my POE today is DS. > Chicken > Varcron


Oh and we got Banana coming soon


#FREEBANANA

-vote DS.

So you didn't actually want my input like you claimed a few posts before this.

I don't see how you can't see that i called out an MM post as being scummy and then voted him shortly after. Naz's vote had nothing to do with mine

[DS.]

Also I wasn't throwing shade at you. Someone asked me about you and i said that i basically didn't have a read on you but I didn't like what I thought was you throwing me in a scum pile for no reason.

You're clearing up that you didn't say that, which is fine for me. You basically go back to null. I'll give you time to read back because i think your vote on me is based mostly on a miscommunication here.

[naz]

ok hi i'm home and gonna read up again

[DS.]

I would vote DM or MM at this point. There was one other that had a comment that pinged me a bit but the mishmash of new names is difficult for me on the first day. I don't have time to look back rn. Im at work and have meetings until about 4pm pdt. Will try my hardest to be back before deadline.

I'm town no matter what anyone tries to twist around on me while I'm gone

[naz]

but i have to correct you on some stuff about my pov.

Honestly, I am having trouble believing in a world where a player of Varcron caliber would find Janitor role useless as Gambino, seeing that janitor can actually help us with potentially hiding our roles against FBI/Lucianos. One great example would be a sanitized GF and the coppers will never know if GF is still alive or not until night reveal.

Fuck it man, why not behave as mafioso instead.

See that Mesk meta is actually harmless for Gambino majority but it is harmful for the FBI/Luciano minority. I don't have a problem with that one lol

Surely I see things eye to eye here with MM regarding how janitor sanitize could end bad in confusing things for us as well, however this observation puts MM on my TR list so far because he has the similar concerns as I do. Adding to that, I am not pushing MM to any conclusion nor he does to me while Varcron claimed it is TVT after 2 posts.


If Varcron is Gambino then he will have to explain himself to the majority here.

in these posts, auwt and baker are going back and forth taking varcron's troll claim seriously...i am giving scum points to baker + auwt for trying to speculate a !scumVarcron from this....lol

baker i don't want u to be scum

[Renegade]

@bakermir
SO from what I can gather is baker has a scum lean on me because of a change in behavior after the brut event.
The change in behavior I can actually attest to, not necessarily the scum read because I don't understand how he associates change in behavior into a scum read without any basis explaining it. Basically I came into the game the night it opened posted a little bit maybe somewhere around 5-10 posts nothing to serious a few shit posts and maybe a few serious ones I don't even remember. I then logged off and went to bed. woke up the next morning did my normal routine went to work for 10 hours. Came home showered booted up the ole laptop and read the thread. There wasn't much new things that happened aside from the Brut event. It was at that moment that I actually started to take the game seriously and freaking play. SO Yeah I can attest to my behavior definitely changing after the Brut event.

So another person that is scum reading me is DM. honestly the only reason I could pick up was and I quote "Ducky went from a joke post to right into the game all serious content wonder. So I don’t know if that’s a good thing or a bad thing.
Like it could be that it’s normal for them to do as Town or it could be scum that is getting told what to do from their buddy. But I’ll say it’s normal for them regardless of alignment until proven otherwise."

My explanation for getting into the game after the shit post phase which is what normally happens in a game of Mafia is explained above see the AT bakermir. The part about being coached by a scum buddy, I checked the setup and don't even know how that could be possible. That was the only thing I picked up as to why you are scum reading me, if it's a gut feeling, what ever I can't do anything about that but if it's for something like a change in behavior I explained that and it seems kind of weak.

The mesk vote on me is just a sheep vote because of AUWT I think? She never tried interacting with me I don't think and I made a post somewhere with a reason that I had a scum lean on her, I honestly don't think she even read it because she never responded to it. If yall send me to the BBQ pits here, you need to look at MESK and AUWT. DM I am unsure his intentions for voting me don't see solid but I don't get the feel he has wolfy intent.

Yes, the case on Duck is incredibly weak in my opinion. Not an ideal d1 lynch.

[Renegade]

You know what Auwt, I'll follow you. Why not

-vote LuckyDucky

Why though?

[naz]

Questions for everyone to answer before 4 hours before EOD, since it seems to be such a CONCERN TO ANSWER QUESTIONS BEFORE EOD: (if anyone refuses to answer you will be SCUM READ for it)

1) How much wood would a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood?

u mom

2) Peter piper picked a peck of pickled peppers; if peter piper picked a peck pickled peppers, how many pickled peppers would peter piper pick?

penis

3) Whiskey or Rum?

RUM!

4) If you could be any pokemon, which one would you be?

missingno

5) If you could eliminate any single generation of pokemon, which would you eliminate?

ig the newest one idk

6) What is the capital of Assyria?

u mom

[Renegade]

I'll be back an hour before EOD. I am giving serious consideration to an MM vote.

[naz]

Sure, if someone else besides me said it. I already hard claimed. SOOOOO, nope. wasn't me.

but if someone can actually answer that question, it would be nice.

i don't like how mesk actually realized 2 were dead but is dumbtelling that she missed the entire rest of the post??? not jivin wit me fam

[Mesk514]

i don't like how mesk actually realized 2 were dead but is dumbtelling that she missed the entire rest of the post??? not jivin wit me fam

It said it in giant bold letters. But ok. I'm a cit, so, idk what ya want

[naz]

vibing with banana + duck as of post #320

[naz]

It said it in giant bold letters. But ok. I'm a cit, so, idk what ya want

i'm a cit i'm a cit
is that all u can do?
no vagina this game?

-vote mesk

[bakermir]

in these posts, auwt and baker are going back and forth taking varcron's troll claim seriously...i am giving scum points to baker + auwt for trying to speculate a !scumVarcron from this....lol

baker i don't want u to be scum

LOL

honestly I was creeped out a bit with auwt there so scum points from me too

i think i even mentioned somewhere earlier, maybe to banana not sure. I also stopped shitposting as i felt this weird intrusion, kinda closed myself to both banana and auwt and also to crap ideas i might overthink and be my own death like last game


im vulnerable to scum and still trying my best to improve my town meta

[bakermir]

anyway, I will get back to others I am rereading posts and preparing a response to them soon.


naz has priority. the rest of people are in economy class.

[naz]

100 post today actually.

lol man i want to let varcron get to a day 2 but i see why he always gets lynched day 1 now lmao

[naz]

Leaving only Ducky on the current vote list.

bruh this is so scummy lol u only evaluated 3 people - u ignored me, mesk, ds, and baker

like make ur own reasons instead of sheeping

-vote auwt

[BananaCucho]

Sup guys! Anyone wanna gimmie the tl;dr on the last 3 hours? Just got service again, was in Minnetonka Cave. Pretty cool shit

[bakermir]

ok big thanks to my 3 suspects for getting back to me.


It was 1959.

Not a good year for the Gambino Family. The Feds been jumpin on homies, arresting brothers and another family eyein our turf.

One day, Gambino boi bakermir was chillin in Gambino Villa HQ, listening to jazz music because the church hates it. While takin a sip from his chocolate milk an explosion happened in another room. With the aftershock, the chocolate milk started squirting out of his nostrils and as this happened he started seeing his life in reverse. Tragically, there wasn't much so it ended in few seconds. He wiped the chocolate milk while pushing his tongue to his nostrils. After a few seconds of goofy struggle he rushed to the other room. There were two bodies of his brothers Light_Yagami and Frinckles. There was Auwt, Banana and Chicken next to bodies. Chicken was keep QUACKING while Auwt ran and gave a hug to lil bakir. Banana also tapped his shoulder in support.

Bakermir was mad.

Bakermir was full of vengeance.

He wanted to protect their family. Family was the only thing Bakermir had.

Still a chocolate milk drop sliding out of his nostrils, he went to his room and placed the photographs of every Gambino family member.

Countless of hours went by. The photos were moving from one wall to another, swapping them constantly. The room was gettin littered by empty cartons of chocolate milk and creased paper.


In the end, he had three photos in the center.

Brother Chicken, Sister DS. and Papa Varcron.

He placed their posts under their photos.

Then he sat back on his leather office seat, facing up the wall with three photos. Blazed a fatty and picked up a throwing dart.

@bakermir
SO from what I can gather is baker has a scum lean on me because of a change in behavior after the brut event.
The change in behavior I can actually attest to, not necessarily the scum read because I don't understand how he associates change in behavior into a scum read without any basis explaining it. Basically I came into the game the night it opened posted a little bit maybe somewhere around 5-10 posts nothing to serious a few shit posts and maybe a few serious ones I don't even remember. I then logged off and went to bed. woke up the next morning did my normal routine went to work for 10 hours. Came home showered booted up the ole laptop and read the thread. There wasn't much new things that happened aside from the Brut event. It was at that moment that I actually started to take the game seriously and freaking play. SO Yeah I can attest to my behavior definitely changing after the Brut event.

So another person that is scum reading me is DM. honestly the only reason I could pick up was and I quote "Ducky went from a joke post to right into the game all serious content wonder. So I don’t know if that’s a good thing or a bad thing.
Like it could be that it’s normal for them to do as Town or it could be scum that is getting told what to do from their buddy. But I’ll say it’s normal for them regardless of alignment until proven otherwise."

My explanation for getting into the game after the shit post phase which is what normally happens in a game of Mafia is explained above see the AT bakermir. The part about being coached by a scum buddy, I checked the setup and don't even know how that could be possible. That was the only thing I picked up as to why you are scum reading me, if it's a gut feeling, what ever I can't do anything about that but if it's for something like a change in behavior I explained that and it seems kind of weak.

The mesk vote on me is just a sheep vote because of AUWT I think? She never tried interacting with me I don't think and I made a post somewhere with a reason that I had a scum lean on her, I honestly don't think she even read it because she never responded to it. If yall send me to the BBQ pits here, you need to look at MESK and AUWT. DM I am unsure his intentions for voting me don't see solid but I don't get the feel he has wolfy intent.

That was like 5:00 in Moscow. I awakened by screams under my window. I seen some fight, nearly 4-5 ppl involved. First thing I did is called police. I am glad that that was just some drunk idiots, noone hurted seriously or killed. But my sleep was broken. I lie down, but I cannot sleep again, my head was like cracked with hammer with this rude awakening. I went too see what's going on here. First thing I seen is 6 votes on Baker with 4 of them townie for me. I said for myself "fuck it" and eneded that shit, push my PC off and go back to sleep, while policemen packaged that drunk guys under my window. Then silence comes, I slept for 8 hours nearly after.

Well, that was fault, as we see now, but it's not my personal fault. Whole town voted him. Btw only one known maf (Varcron) doesn't voted him, I need to notice that, maybe that is mafia strat and we need to look at non-voters. Not sure.

It does, except that gives you the option to keep me alive to thunderdome a potential CC or be scumpainted by janitor luciano assuming there is one. Either way the pros of keeping me outweigh the cons. I haven't developed a solid opinion on the ducky/auwt interaction yet either.

I wanted to know this during shitpost stage not now. You have supporters and MM have supporters. I go with MM because i TR him more than you. That being said I were reading everyone quite normal except some of your stuff but overall I wanted to let you have that D1 pass because of your claim. In both games such trap claim pulled in town players and to me it looks like me and MM are repeating the same mistake again. BUt tell me Varcron, Mike won that game as 3P with his trap claim. I am honestly concerned by how you played this entire game because you are in the same spot as Mike. We have seen how a scum could so easily get a d1 pass with this strat. I wanted to play along and not be dragged in to it. Maybe this is why you have given me TR earlier because I wouldn't expect scum!Varcron to TR me. I would expect scum or people who didn't know what happened last game to criticize me on my reaction to your janitor claim. Can you give EOD reads for everyone? Because your previous reads list had holes in it.

Also I wasn't throwing shade at you. Someone asked me about you and i said that i basically didn't have a read on you but I didn't like what I thought was you throwing me in a scum pile for no reason.

You're clearing up that you didn't say that, which is fine for me. You basically go back to null. I'll give you time to read back because i think your vote on me is based mostly on a miscommunication here.

I am very emotional. Don't do this to me.







Bakermir is ready to throw his dart. Although, he still haven't made up his mind yet.

[DS.]

lucky ducky currently in the lead with like 45 minutes left?

[BananaCucho]

Holy fuck Baker where have you been all my life

[naz]

Playing stupid? Or legitimately realizing this now?

this is bad. did u not see what he was quoting? or are u the one with the scum paint?

[BananaCucho]

I am definitely not down for a Duck lunch

I also don't want MM

It kinda irked me that Auntie didn't lob any questions at me while I was around and then tried to keep shading me for burning my posts repeatedly after I capped again

Vacuum... god as much as I wanna flip him I really don't know. He is just the pro at acting scummy

DM has not impressed

I could lunch Mesk tbh. Something tonewise is off there

Normally I'm a big day 1 lunch advocate. But idk guys we have 2 flips. We can let it slide today

[naz]

anyway, I will get back to others I am rereading posts and preparing a response to them soon.


naz has priority. the rest of people are in economy class.

ily

Sup guys! Anyone wanna gimmie the tl;dr on the last 3 hours? Just got service again, was in Minnetonka Cave. Pretty cool shit

ihy

[BananaCucho]

ily


ihy

I keep mixing you and baker up with those avis lmao

[naz]

ok its dinner time!!! bye!!! love u baker for the flavor!!! bahaha

pass me teh fatty too

[naz]

I keep mixing you and baker up with those avis lmao

u brought this upon yourself

[BananaCucho]

u brought this upon yourself

I wasnt complaining XD

[Renegade]

ok big thanks to my 3 suspects for getting back to me.


It was 1959.

Not a good year for the Gambino Family. The Feds been jumpin on homies, arresting brothers and another family eyein our turf.

One day, Gambino boi bakermir was chillin in Gambino Villa HQ, listening to jazz music because the church hates it. While takin a sip from his chocolate milk an explosion happened in another room. With the aftershock, the chocolate milk started squirting out of his nostrils and as this happened he started seeing his life in reverse. Tragically, there wasn't much so it ended in few seconds. He wiped the chocolate milk while pushing his tongue to his nostrils. After a few seconds of goofy struggle he rushed to the other room. There were two bodies of his brothers Light_Yagami and Frinckles. There was Auwt, Banana and Chicken next to bodies. Chicken was keep QUACKING while Auwt ran and gave a hug to lil bakir. Banana also tapped his shoulder in support.

Bakermir was mad.

Bakermir was full of vengeance.

He wanted to protect their family. Family was the only thing Bakermir had.

Still a chocolate milk drop sliding out of his nostrils, he went to his room and placed the photographs of every Gambino family member.

Countless of hours went by. The photos were moving from one wall to another, swapping them constantly. The room was gettin littered by empty cartons of chocolate milk and creased paper.


In the end, he had three photos in the center.

Brother Chicken, Sister DS. and Papa Varcron.

He placed their posts under their photos.

Then he sat back on his leather office seat, facing up the wall with three photos. Blazed a fatty and picked up a throwing dart.









That was like 5:00 in Moscow. I awakened by screams under my window. I seen some fight, nearly 4-5 ppl involved. First thing I did is called police. I am glad that that was just some drunk idiots, noone hurted seriously or killed. But my sleep was broken. I lie down, but I cannot sleep again, my head was like cracked with hammer with this rude awakening. I went too see what's going on here. First thing I seen is 6 votes on Baker with 4 of them townie for me. I said for myself "fuck it" and eneded that shit, push my PC off and go back to sleep, while policemen packaged that drunk guys under my window. Then silence comes, I slept for 8 hours nearly after.

Well, that was fault, as we see now, but it's not my personal fault. Whole town voted him. Btw only one known maf (Varcron) doesn't voted him, I need to notice that, maybe that is mafia strat and we need to look at non-voters. Not sure.



I wanted to know this during shitpost stage not now. You have supporters and MM have supporters. I go with MM because i TR him more than you. That being said I were reading everyone quite normal except some of your stuff but overall I wanted to let you have that D1 pass because of your claim. In both games such trap claim pulled in town players and to me it looks like me and MM are repeating the same mistake again. BUt tell me Varcron, Mike won that game as 3P with his trap claim. I am honestly concerned by how you played this entire game because you are in the same spot as Mike. We have seen how a scum could so easily get a d1 pass with this strat. I wanted to play along and not be dragged in to it. Maybe this is why you have given me TR earlier because I wouldn't expect scum!Varcron to TR me. I would expect scum or people who didn't know what happened last game to criticize me on my reaction to your janitor claim. Can you give EOD reads for everyone? Because your previous reads list had holes in it.





I am very emotional. Don't do this to me.







Bakermir is ready to throw his dart. Although, he still haven't made up his mind yet.

LMFAO baker

[Renegade]

30 mins till EOD, I haven't placed a vote, but it doesn't look like anyone will get close to a majority anyway.

[DS.]

I am definitely not down for a Duck lunch

I also don't want MM

It kinda irked me that Auntie didn't lob any questions at me while I was around and then tried to keep shading me for burning my posts repeatedly after I capped again

Vacuum... god as much as I wanna flip him I really don't know. He is just the pro at acting scummy

DM has not impressed

I could lunch Mesk tbh. Something tonewise is off there

Normally I'm a big day 1 lunch advocate. But idk guys we have 2 flips. We can let it slide today

No lynch actually isnt horrible today

[BananaCucho]

30 mins till EOD, I haven't placed a vote, but it doesn't look like anyone will get close to a majority anyway.

Wanna turbolunch the citizen claim? What have we got to lose?

-vote Mesk514

[bakermir]

lol im glad u guys like it. all improvised i had to rush it so i can use last 30 minutes on actually voting

[bakermir]

bruh this is so scummy lol u only evaluated 3 people - u ignored me, mesk, ds, and baker

like make ur own reasons instead of sheeping

-vote auwt

im ready to wagon here but auwt isn't here so i don't think that would look good on me. 30 minutes left

[Mesk514]

Wanna turbolunch the citizen claim? What have we got to lose?

-vote Mesk514

Very funny

[BananaCucho]

LuckyDucky (3 [L-3]):
Mesk514, Dark Magician, Auwt

What a horribad wagon

[bakermir]

No lynch actually isnt horrible today

it is horrible.

why would you think this way?

[BananaCucho]

it is horrible.

why would you think this way?

The point of lunching day 1 is to flip hoe

We have 2 upcoming flips already

[bakermir]

inb4 nolynch d1 and everyone fuckin voting each other on d2

[BananaCucho]

inb4 nolynch d1 and everyone fuckin voting each other on d2

I mean eventually you gotta eat lunch or you will starve

[Renegade]

I'm okay with voting Mesk.

-vote Mesk514

[Renegade]

Her BS sheep vote with Auwt is plenty of reason to d1 lynch.

[bakermir]

The point of lunching day 1 is to flip hoe

We have 2 upcoming flips already

i have a feeling 1 scum is probably dead. even if not, we have a good chance to get one with lynch now

[BananaCucho]

Mesk doesn't have a gun to carry this game

[BananaCucho]

i have a feeling 1 scum is probably dead. even if not, we have a good chance to get one with lynch now

If 1 scum is dead, even more reason not to lunch today

Higher % of mislunch

[DS.]

im ready to wagon here but auwt isn't here so i don't think that would look good on me. 30 minutes left

wait but if you think hes scum why would that look bad?

slip?

[DS.]

yeah we already have two flips. it doesnt make sense to lynch another right now actually

-vote No Kill

[bakermir]

wait but if you think hes scum why would that look bad?

slip?

no actually it would make me look bad because they can flip town and I didn't give them time for defense, the treatment you got today.

i don't know how is this a slip