S-FM 225: WIFOM Mafia Q

[Unknown1234]

Well, be my in game mentor then, what should I do to be a good scum hunter?

*We are number one starts playing as backgroundmusic*

First thing you gotta do is interact with people. You seem to be doing that a bit already so that works.

Then, you have to look at people's posts and think "why would they be doing this as scum/town? Does this seem normal or fake? What kind of reaction was that? Good/Bad?"

Applying pressure is good to see how people react under it. However, telling people it's a pressure attack does nothing, so make sure you provide evidence of suspicion and see where it goes from there.

Finally, you lynch scum. Don't forget to have fun too.

[Fury]

wowowowowweeeewaaaaa babaaaa i like that ass kissing, it fills my town ego with nothing but more trollyness and love for you <3

[Mesk514]

To my understanding it is voting together/teaming up. Considering it's day 1, I didn't see a reason to block. But, Unknown addressed that.

IKA IS TOWN, IKA AND I ARE A BLOCK

[Unknown1234]

IKA IS TOWN, IKA AND I ARE A BLOCK

You weren't invited.

[Alijach]

First thing you gotta do is interact with people. You seem to be doing that a bit already so that works.

Then, you have to look at people's posts and think "why would they be doing this as scum/town? Does this seem normal or fake? What kind of reaction was that? Good/Bad?"

Applying pressure is good to see how people react under it. However, telling people it's a pressure attack does nothing, so make sure you provide evidence of suspicion and see where it goes from there.

Finally, you lynch scum. Don't forget to have fun too.

I'll take that in consideration for tomorrow, as I'm already too sleepy to keep going. we still have 18 hours left, right?

[Mesk514]

You weren't invited.

you're not old enough to engage in our town block

[Unknown1234]

I'll take that in consideration for tomorrow, as I'm already too sleepy to keep going. we still have 18 hours left, right?

48 hour days, so it's more like 42

[Unknown1234]

you're not old enough to engage in our town block

That's not what Ika said.

[Alijach]

48 hour days, so it's more like 42

Can't do math, that's a bad signal. Going to sleep. I'll be back in 10? hours

[Fury]

Yo unknown, let's start our own block. With blackjack! And hookers!

[Unknown1234]

Can't do math, that's a bad signal. Going to sleep. I'll be back in 10? hours

Keep in mind the clock at the start of the thread has the time too :P

See you then!

[Unknown1234]

Yo unknown, let's start our own block. With blackjack! And hookers!

Well.... you had identical beginner game play to mine....

I'll think about it.

[ccantman]

I would like to change my vote, butICantMan. Also did I wifom jester already?

Happy I changed it, I just needed time to make a new one

You are playing very differently.

Is this a bad thing? One would argue how I played D1 in the last game was bad. Why would I continue to play like that?

[SuperJack]

You're face has an attitude @unknown

[Fury]

Well.... you had identical beginner game play to mine....

I'll think about it.

I can't wait for us to block and do block things omg I'm so excited all of the other blocks are going to be SOOOOOO jealous.

[Unknown1234]

Sometimes I forget this is mafia.

[SuperJack]

I'm not going to make any rash "Town" Blocks D1 because I'm not a fucking brick.

[TwentyTwo]

Mesk visited themself last night, does this mean Mesk was masturbating?

[ccantman]

I got here on page 6 so gimme time fam I'm also very busy
I think SJ is town because he had a point earlier on lynching jester and when questioned stuck by it very resolutely. He basically said I don't give a fuck if you disagree, this is what I think. I see that as more townie than scum because scum are more willing to fold back on their statements and they make weaker ones in general. SJ gave me a town vibe, so I'm going to ride him all day.
And if you read my posts, you'd see I wasn't hunting for town power. I was suspicious of TBP and scum read him. Upon developing my thoughts, I realized he was probably town. Considering ccantman is wanting to lynch him, I think saying something is appropriate. So I wasn't hunting town power, you twat.

I want to lynch him because he keeps saying there are 5 evil roles. Making it looks like we should lynch the jester. As town we can ignore the jester, so only evil would want to try and convince town that the jester is evil

[ccantman]

Mesk visited themself last night, does this mean Mesk was masturbating?

No, Mesk was just getting ready to come over to my place on N2, didn't you see the invite?

[Stealthbomber16]

Mesk visited themself last night, does this mean Mesk was masturbating?

wtf lookout claim tho

[Stealthbomber16]

-vote ika

this is the place for me right now
beep beep

[ccantman]

wtf lookout claim tho

Or a detective claim on following Mesk?

Or actually just an agent.

Or actually just faking as a jester.

I like all of the above.

[ccantman]

I would argue based on the text, Its more likely detective over lookout as we only know Mesk visited Mesk

[Stealthbomber16]

I would argue based on the text, Its more likely detective over lookout as we only know Mesk visited Mesk

this is true.


wtf detective/lookout claim tho

[TwentyTwo]

That avatar is much better.

-unvote

[Fury]

I want to lynch him because he keeps saying there are 5 evil roles. Making it looks like we should lynch the jester. As town we can ignore the jester, so only evil would want to try and convince town that the jester is evil

We're not setting out to lynch a jester. We try to lynch evil and if we hit jester, then it's better than lynching town. That's the point of what I said. Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words may never hurt me.

[Stealthbomber16]

We're not setting out to lynch a jester. We try to lynch evil and if we hit jester, then it's better than lynching town. That's the point of what I said. Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words may never hurt me.

Actually.... this is.... almost true? Hm.

I still don't like the concept of lynching jester but tbh i guess we dont have anything better to do d1

[Fury]

Actually.... this is.... almost true? Hm.

I still don't like the concept of lynching jester but tbh i guess we dont have anything better to do d1

In my mind, if we scum read 2 people for example, but of those 2 people: 1 of them is EITHER scum OR jester, then ignore the 2nd dude and lynch the scum/jesters. I'm not saying anyone is at this stage yet, but it illustrates the reasoning of why jester reads are valuable.

[ccantman]

We're not setting out to lynch a jester. We try to lynch evil and if we hit jester, then it's better than lynching town. That's the point of what I said. Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words may never hurt me.

is hitting jester better than town though? What does that give us? A random shot of killing a mafia/joker?
At least if we lynch town we get the info of the votes. If we get the jester, its hard to say any guilty pushers/savers are mafia, where as we get that as town.

Who actually dies i suppose it at the digression of the jester, but we have no idea their thought pattern to know if they are pro-town or anti-town

[Fury]

is hitting jester better than town though? What does that give us? A random shot of killing a mafia/joker?
At least if we lynch town we get the info of the votes. If we get the jester, its hard to say any guilty pushers/savers are mafia, where as we get that as town.

Who actually dies i suppose it at the digression of the jester, but we have no idea their thought pattern to know if they are pro-town or anti-town

Hitting jester is better than hitting town, yes.

[Stealthbomber16]

I can see SJs logic now actually

[SuperJack]

I can see SJs logic now actually

Great

Jester Please Reveal. We Lynch you.

[TwentyTwo]

I say we lynch the jester.

-vote RLVG

[Fury]

I say we lynch the jester.

-vote RLVG

Hell yea

[SuperJack]

-vote TwentyTwo

Be serious you twat.

[Fury]

I'll wait for some more responses before I put down a serious vote. For now,

-vote unvote

[TwentyTwo]

But I am serious, if we lynch the GM then town wont die.

[ccantman]

Great

Jester Please Reveal. We Lynch you.

What was your logic again?

[SuperJack]

What was your logic again?

With a Jester in the game. Analysing the Day chat becomes highly increasingly difficulty to analyse. As you have someone purposely feeding false information and false post to create the most negative impact
This makes Scum hunting more difficult, and it will just get more difficult over time.
You will have players who will start to act like a Jester, to avoid a lynch, to avoid being killed.

Basically, Jester Blocks Day Chat analysis and creates a whole field of Wifom.


Hence why I'm offering the Jester to get his wincon ASAP. It will remove a lot of difficulty from the game.

[SuperJack]

Getting the Jester too reveal is perhaps the most pro-town tactic today.

[SuperJack]

Ok. I'm going to sleep. If you are not voting someone when I get back, you will be beaten.

[SuperJack]

Also. Take note on Unknown & Ika's interaction.

[ccantman]

I've been trying to think if this was just bait into trying to get me to reveal jester and then not vote me.
But since there is a forced lynch, if I reveal early enough it should stagnate the discussion into which I am just the best vote for the town, and then mafia and joker kinda just need to follow.

Its been decided killing me is better than not killing me, so I hope I'm not screwing myself over, but I think the logic stands that its wise to get me.

I had a suspicion that outing me and then just not killing me, but that only works without the forced lynch.

I then thought about bringing up that if joker chose two towns, mafia would want to kill jester to get the two town that they know are not mafia, but lynchig town on the podeum doesn't help town either.

I think its safe to reveal.

I think the biggest gain is that voters don't randomly die, its a death of my choice, so while in the sc2 mod, you don't want to vote jester, here there is no downside in voting me.

I'll make the deal with you SJ, you vote me, I'll give you the kill you want, but two people need to agree with it. Its not fair if your actually mafia getting the 3 for 1 special on the town. At least if 3 people choose the target, its a mix of town (unless mafia really want to out themselves)
So the next 24 hours should be who am I killing (and then hoping I keep my word?)

[ccantman]

-unvote

[ccantman]

-vote unvote

[ika]

So adj doesn't claim to answer my question and insteads avoids it outright.

More votes plz.

(Sw just picked me up so mobile)

Pedit: ccat are you claiming to be jester?

[Stealthbomber16]

I've been trying to think if this was just bait into trying to get me to reveal jester and then not vote me.
But since there is a forced lynch, if I reveal early enough it should stagnate the discussion into which I am just the best vote for the town, and then mafia and joker kinda just need to follow.

Its been decided killing me is better than not killing me, so I hope I'm not screwing myself over, but I think the logic stands that its wise to get me.

I had a suspicion that outing me and then just not killing me, but that only works without the forced lynch.

I then thought about bringing up that if joker chose two towns, mafia would want to kill jester to get the two town that they know are not mafia, but lynchig town on the podeum doesn't help town either.

I think its safe to reveal.

I think the biggest gain is that voters don't randomly die, its a death of my choice, so while in the sc2 mod, you don't want to vote jester, here there is no downside in voting me.

I'll make the deal with you SJ, you vote me, I'll give you the kill you want, but two people need to agree with it. Its not fair if your actually mafia getting the 3 for 1 special on the town. At least if 3 people choose the target, its a mix of town (unless mafia really want to out themselves)
So the next 24 hours should be who am I killing (and then hoping I keep my word?)

this made me kek
i need to sleep on whether or not i was bullshitting you or if this is the correct play

[ccantman]

Yes,

I did say I was a crazy man

Going back to my old avatar now

[SuperJack]

I've been trying to think if this was just bait into trying to get me to reveal jester and then not vote me.
But since there is a forced lynch, if I reveal early enough it should stagnate the discussion into which I am just the best vote for the town, and then mafia and joker kinda just need to follow.

Its been decided killing me is better than not killing me, so I hope I'm not screwing myself over, but I think the logic stands that its wise to get me.

I had a suspicion that outing me and then just not killing me, but that only works without the forced lynch.

I then thought about bringing up that if joker chose two towns, mafia would want to kill jester to get the two town that they know are not mafia, but lynchig town on the podeum doesn't help town either.

I think its safe to reveal.

I think the biggest gain is that voters don't randomly die, its a death of my choice, so while in the sc2 mod, you don't want to vote jester, here there is no downside in voting me.

I'll make the deal with you SJ, you vote me, I'll give you the kill you want, but two people need to agree with it. Its not fair if your actually mafia getting the 3 for 1 special on the town. At least if 3 people choose the target, its a mix of town (unless mafia really want to out themselves)
So the next 24 hours should be who am I killing (and then hoping I keep my word?)

Idea is a Consensus and agreed vote to kill. Treat is as a Second lynch. Thank you for being Honest.

We basically treat this as a normal day now, we scum hunt. And then we lynch you, and you kill whom the majority agree with shooting.