S-FM 197: Sandbox

[Funce]

[offtopic]@Gyrlander is your name pronounced with a [G] sound or a [J] sound.[/offtopic]

[powerofdeath]

Will have to ask if Roles are Unique then.

Are Roles Unique in this game?

no

[Quick]

[offtopic]@Gyrlander is your name pronounced with a [G] sound or a [J] sound.[/offtopic]

Could you like, do something?

-vote Funce

[Quick]

no

K,

I can't say I'm happy to hear that.

Scum can basically claim any role and there is no way to catch them. Claims like the one Unknown1234 made could be totally false and there would be no way of telling if its a claim that can be countered. Scum can also claim BP and Town would be none the wiser.

Not liking the state of the game right now.

[Titus]

Well, Unknown is as close to confirmed Town as you can get without actually being confirmed.

Titus continuing to push Unknown looks really really bad.

He isn't. That's what would be you.

Unknown or G. Those are the lynches I intend to vote. They are scums.

[Quick]

He isn't. That's what would be you.

Unknown or G. Those are the lynches I intend to vote. They are scums.

K, how am I almost confirmed Town though? You never explained that.

[Titus]

K, how am I almost confirmed Town though? You never explained that.

Meta. THis isn't your scumgame. It just isn't.

[Quick]

Meta. THis isn't your scumgame. It just isn't.

So if we were teamed as mafia, would you bus the shit outa me?

[Titus]

So if we were teamed as mafia, would you bus the shit outa me?

Why are you asking this? It's a waste of time. Generally, I'm known as not a busser though.

[Quick]

Why are you asking this? It's a waste of time. Generally, I'm known as not a busser though.

Why not put pressure on the inactives right now?

[Titus]

Why not put pressure on the inactives right now?

Because I've found the scum...

[Titus]

Look I'm as pissed off as the next person about inactives but not much we can do about them.

[Quick]

Because I've found the scum...

Its not like a clear cut case though. Like after he claimed you still insisted in pressuring him, even though the guy crumbed 3 fucking times.

[Titus]

Its not like a clear cut case though. Like after he claimed you still insisted in pressuring him, even though the guy crumbed 3 fucking times.

Right and no townie should be crumbing the fucking bleeding... like ever.

Bleeder isn't an innocent fucking child.

[Titus]

The case is totally clear cut to me. It's been clear since yesterday.

[Quick]

Right and no townie should be crumbing the fucking bleeding... like ever.

Bleeder isn't an innocent fucking child.

I see no reason why bleeder shouldn't crumb. That's not even the point though. Like some people are going to crumb that role and some aren't. Now if the guy never crumbed, then I can say, yeah, likely scum. But with not 1, not 2, but 3 crumbs, you are kinda establishing a pattern there..

[Quick]

The case is totally clear cut to me. It's been clear since yesterday.

K, well explain how it is such a clear cut case. Please, you might convince me to move my vote yet again if I think you have something solid. Reason it was so strong for me to vote you was partially because I thought roles were unique in this game. At this point its a complete mind fuck for me. So if you have something solid lets hear it.

[Titus]

K, well explain how it is such a clear cut case. Please, you might convince me to move my vote yet again if I think you have something solid. Reason it was so strong for me to vote you was partially because I thought roles were unique in this game. At this point its a complete mind fuck for me. So if you have something solid lets hear it.

With the behavior yesterday, scum didn't contest the Kovath wagon until the end. Why? If Kovath is lynched, they get to doubtcast us as scum. If he wasn't getting lynched, we were. Obvious scum win. That's why they never pushed anyone during the day.

Bleeder = bulletproof, which should not be crumbed. A bleeder can die at night, but still talk the next day.

[Quick]

With the behavior yesterday, scum didn't contest the Kovath wagon until the end. Why? If Kovath is lynched, they get to doubtcast us as scum. If he wasn't getting lynched, we were. Obvious scum win. That's why they never pushed anyone during the day.

Bleeder = bulletproof, which should not be crumbed. A bleeder can die at night, but still talk the next day.

Titus, really, everyone was doing crazy shit at that time. It happens in half the fucking games I play in. That is not exactly what I would call solid. Although I do think its weird @Unknown1234 was pushing for an alternate lynch ie. me, I can accept that town might do that because I have a fucking scummy meta.

And that whole "plan" about saying he visited someone at night fell apart as soon as it was thought of. Like how do I know you're not just role fishing?

[Titus]

@Quick , It was never meant to stay entirely. It was meant to force Unknown into not doing the LOL shitizen claim to be investigatible even if we decided to go elsewhere.

[Titus]

That or if I got lucky, massive scum bus but hell given how obviously scummy Unknown is *shrug*

[Quick]

@Quick , It was never meant to stay entirely. It was meant to force Unknown into not doing the LOL shitizen claim to be investigatible even if we decided to go elsewhere.

I said this before: How the hell do you know there is a cop in the game? Plus Ya' know there's a GF possible.

[Titus]

I said this before: How the hell do you know there is a cop in the game? Plus Ya' know there's a GF possible.

I didn't say just cop. Any lookout, detective, cop, Oracle, or anything like that would also detect bullshit in Unknown's claim. I don't have any information regarding any, but there has to be some form of investigator.

[Quick]

I didn't say just cop. Any lookout, detective, cop, Oracle, or anything like that would also detect bullshit in Unknown's claim. I don't have any information regarding any, but there has to be some form of investigator.

Yeah, plenty of investigator shit, and just as many mafia roles to counter them!!!

[Quick]

I mean for Christs sake we could be looking at Blackmailer, Blackmailer's, Traitor for Christs sake!

[Titus]

I mean for Christs sake we could be looking at Blackmailer, Blackmailer's, Traitor for Christs sake!

You've got to be kidding me.

[Quick]

You've got to be kidding me.

No, I'm not. I could literally be playing against that.

[Firebringer]

Quick is not scum in this game in anyway.
But he is massively wrong on his reads I think.

[Firebringer]

Like, Quick I get why you are suspicious of Titus, Like I think she is acting weird/scummy right now. Except I always get weird vibes from Titus 90% of the time I play with her, I just try to swift through all the weirdness and see if she acting ABNORMALLY weird.

I can see town motivation in her posts so far, she was crumbing to me earlier, why do that as scum?
I know of one game she did that too me I believe, she was scum actually but that was so long ago.

[Firebringer]

@Quick you want to discuss things about this game now?

[Quick]

@Quick you want to discuss things about this game now?

Yeah, lets talk.

I read in another game you like to set traps as town. I can't say I've seen you do that too much this game. It was kinda like you just decided to lynch Kovath and had kinda shut off the thinker after that. I did it too, but I was the leader of that terribad lynch. why weren't you proactive elsewhere?

[Firebringer]

Yeah, lets talk.

I read in another game you like to set traps as town. I can't say I've seen you do that too much this game. It was kinda like you just decided to lynch Kovath and had kinda shut off the thinker after that. I did it too, but I was the leader of that terribad lynch. why weren't you proactive elsewhere?

I wasn't to involved with this game, and I thought you were town, and then some of the players I didn't think I would get much out of. I was rather suprised on Kovath, didn't think he was Jester at all.

I still think you are town, and I lean town on Titus.
I think Ika could have self BMed because almost nobody makes sense to BM him, except maybe Unknown trying ot frame me for it with his whole quoting the "Ohh firebringer said he would policy him yesterday for not talking" and that meant I would bm him? How? Or why?

Gyrlander I think could be scum, but not sure.

Talbortu not been talking
Funce is most likely other scum besides Unknown in my view.

[Quick]

I wasn't to involved with this game, and I thought you were town, and then some of the players I didn't think I would get much out of. I was rather suprised on Kovath, didn't think he was Jester at all.

I still think you are town, and I lean town on Titus.
I think Ika could have self BMed because almost nobody makes sense to BM him, except maybe Unknown trying ot frame me for it with his whole quoting the "Ohh firebringer said he would policy him yesterday for not talking" and that meant I would bm him? How? Or why?

Gyrlander I think could be scum, but not sure.

Talbortu not been talking
Funce is most likely other scum besides Unknown in my view.

That's great that you are giving me reads and all, but that's not what I asked. Could you answer my questions now?

[Firebringer]

Also I am discounting possibility of tailor at all.

THOUGH THE NUMBER ONE WAY TO PISS ME OFF IS IF THERE IS A FUCKING TAILOR
BECUASE FUCK THAT ROLE.


I AM LOOKING AT YOU MATT PUTTING A TAILOR, DISGUISER, AND A JANITOR WITH NO FUCKING CORONER!

[Firebringer]

That's great that you are giving me reads and all, but that's not what I asked. Could you answer my questions now?

I told you why I wasn't proactive, most of the players didn't have much to talk about, and with you leading discussion I didn't feel it necessary to push anyone. Bad reasoning, w/e. I play lots of games thought you had some good leads and wanted to see where it goes.
Again, kind of bad reasoning.

Most games on here I try to lead discussion or attempt to, and I didn't do it this game. I mean, that kind of makes me scummy meta wise? I don't know even as scum I try to lead discussions in some ways I think.

[Quick]

I told you why I wasn't proactive, most of the players didn't have much to talk about, and with you leading discussion I didn't feel it necessary to push anyone. Bad reasoning, w/e. I play lots of games thought you had some good leads and wanted to see where it goes.
Again, kind of bad reasoning.

Most games on here I try to lead discussion or attempt to, and I didn't do it this game. I mean, that kind of makes me scummy meta wise? I don't know even as scum I try to lead discussions in some ways I think.

Why haven't you put the effort into this game that you have in other games? And yeah, meta wise you don't look too good. I remember our first game together though, I called you town and I was right about it. I think you have improved your play since then, however.

[Firebringer]

Why haven't you put the effort into this game that you have in other games? And yeah, meta wise you don't look too good. I remember our first game together though, I called you town and I was right about it. I think you have improved your play since then, however.

I think I said, I had other games at the time, and I thought this game was going in a good direction without my effort needed in it.

[Quick]

I think I said, I had other games at the time, and I thought this game was going in a good direction without my effort needed in it.

That's fair, I guess. Did you crumb your role other than just today?

[Firebringer]

That's fair, I guess. Did you crumb your role other than just today?

I kind of crumbed it yesterday with saying I got it mispelled.

[Quick]

I kind of crumbed it yesterday with saying I got it mispelled.

You said the Mod mispelled it, not you.

[Gyrlander]

[offtopic]@Gyrlander is your name pronounced with a [G] sound or a [J] sound.[/offtopic]

J sounds fancier

[Quick]

J sounds fancier

Some stuff happened while you were away. Do you have any comments about that?

[Gyrlander]

Either Titus and Unknown are SvS or TvT.

[Quick]

Either Titus and Unknown are SvS or TvT.

O.o

How so?

[Gyrlander]

O.o

How so?

PERCEPTION INTUITION FEELINGS

[Quick]

PERCEPTION INTUITION FEELINGS

I expect nothing less!

[Unknown1234]

So, Titus decides to tell me that I suddenly became super active in order to get Kovath lynched. Is that right? Because he also decided to become active to GET Kovath lynched. I never wanted Kovath dead, I wanted Quick and you dead for the most part. I'm genuinely surprised, why are people town reading Titus? She has done nothing useful at all other then fake claim a role to try to make me 'lie' about my role. The fact is if your going to lynch me then that drops town to 4.

Where are all the towns? It's like no one feels like giving their opinions or something. @Quick why aren't you asking for Titus's role like you did to me? Seems like you don't care anymore. @Firebrknger ignored my comment, but I will repeat myself. I did the same thing as you 'crumbling' about my role, so do you still think it's fair to use my thinking against if?

Titus and Fire could give reads on everyone, but they aren't. Why? Because neither of them did anything day 1 other then get Kovath lynched, and neither of them are doing anything day 2 other then trying to get me lynched.

@Funce
@Talboturbo
Could you be slightly more active and give your opinion on how this game is going so far? @ika will probably need to place a vote soon or else won't be counted.

[Quick]

So, Titus decides to tell me that I suddenly became super active in order to get Kovath lynched. Is that right? Because he also decided to become active to GET Kovath lynched. I never wanted Kovath dead, I wanted Quick and you dead for the most part. I'm genuinely surprised, why are people town reading Titus? She has done nothing useful at all other then fake claim a role to try to make me 'lie' about my role. The fact is if your going to lynch me then that drops town to 4.

Where are all the towns? It's like no one feels like giving their opinions or something. @Quick why aren't you asking for Titus's role like you did to me? Seems like you don't care anymore. @Firebrknger ignored my comment, but I will repeat myself. I did the same thing as you 'crumbling' about my role, so do you still think it's fair to use my thinking against if?

Titus and Fire could give reads on everyone, but they aren't. Why? Because neither of them did anything day 1 other then get Kovath lynched, and neither of them are doing anything day 2 other then trying to get me lynched.

@Funce
@Talboturbo
Could you be slightly more active and give your opinion on how this game is going so far? @ika will probably need to place a vote soon or else won't be counted.

IDK that would be a good thing too ask Titus. If it looks like the wind has sorta gone out of my sails, its cuz I kinda feel demoralized because of a recent occurrence. I guess I just don't feel as confident anymore and I suppose that is for good reason.

@Titus , I think you should claim.

[Quick]

@unknown , Ika is blackmailed meaning he can't actively participate in the game this game day. Lame if you ask me. I'm starting to think we really need to start putting more pressure on the inactives @Funce @Talboturbo .

[Quick]

@unknown , Ika is blackmailed meaning he can't actively participate in the game this game day. Lame if you ask me. I'm starting to think we really need to start putting more pressure on the inactives @Funce @Talboturbo .

@Unknown1234 , sorry.