S-FM 337: Play at Your Own Risk

[FM-Wilder Wastelander]

[QUOTE=FM-Gravity Falls;954023]Hmm. Thinking about this a bit more, the fact they voted each other so early, and the fact looney kept their vote on matrix after changing their read on matrix, does support the argument that they are both wizards who voted each other to give each other mana.[/QUOTE
To be honest, that's the reason I am not pushing Silent for now.

[FM-Silent Night]

If I am not back in time for EOD I would like to point out potential significance that the only read Matrix was really pushing is that Bisected should not be trusted. I generally feel that scum will hunt other scum so they can be seen as genuinely hunting and get town cred if they are right. This could be an indication that cult had reason to believe Bisected was the neutral. Although Wilder getting more powerful once cult is dead did make me uncomfortable.

[FM-Bisected Souls]

Proposed Vote Distribution:
9 players with 5 to lynch. 4 votes to spread around. 3 if you exclude Matrix. I think spreading them evenly limits the risk the best because if we are just very wrong on one of them they only get 1 mana. I would put them on Atlantic, Last Hope, and Politico with only 1 per person and the rest for a hammer.

And dont forget to vote so you dont get mod killed or whatever.

huh? how is voting a must?
i will vote matrix, even if i hamer

[FM-Silent Night]

no. either hammer or no vote

I believe votes are absolutely required as part of the game. Skip/No lynch/No vote is not

[FM-Silent Night]

I believe votes are absolutely required as part of the game. Skip/No lynch/No vote is not

48H Days / 24H Nights
Plurality + Majority Lynch
No Last Wills / No Death Notes
No Skip/Sleep Votes

^From the hosts post

[FM-Wilder Wastelander]

I believe votes are absolutely required as part of the game. Skip/No lynch/No vote is not

Hammering is auto-skip.

[FM-Gravity Falls]

48H Days / 24H Nights
Plurality + Majority Lynch
No Last Wills / No Death Notes
No Skip/Sleep Votes

^From the hosts post

That doesn't mean people can't abstain, i don't think

[FM-Bisected Souls]

If I am not back in time for EOD I would like to point out potential significance that the only read Matrix was really pushing is that Bisected should not be trusted. I generally feel that scum will hunt other scum so they can be seen as genuinely hunting and get town cred if they are right. This could be an indication that cult had reason to believe Bisected was the neutral. Although Wilder getting more powerful once cult is dead did make me uncomfortable.

why would scum rather hunt neut instead of town?

[FM-Wilder Wastelander]

48H Days / 24H Nights
Plurality + Majority Lynch
No Last Wills / No Death Notes
No Skip/Sleep Votes

^From the hosts post

That means you cannot -skip.
But if you hammer someone the votes of those who did not have time to vote are no longer important. We don't need to vote someone else we will not lynch. Only cult interested in that.

[FM-Silent Night]

Hammering is auto-skip.

This is a good point. I think that works?

@Lag
If day's end is a hammer and a players vote is not somewhere does their no vote count as a 'sleep' or 'skip' vote?

And what happens to a player if they do break this rule?

[FM-Bisected Souls]

yes. we cant spread out votes - the risk of giving scum mana is too big
we will just hammer at h-5 or smth

[FM-Wilder Wastelander]

why would scum rather hunt neut instead of town?

The main reason cult will hunt neut: converting neut is f*ckup for them. Only townies can be converted. Yes, they will regain mana if convertion failed, but losing night.

[FM-Silent Night]

That means you cannot -skip.
But if you hammer someone the votes of those who did not have time to vote are no longer important. We don't need to vote someone else we will not lynch. Only cult interested in that.

I think your right. Poked the host to confirm. Non votes would certainly be preferable than spreading them given even if we are right about Matrix being cult we don't know what kind of neutral may exist and may benefit from being voted.

[FM-Bisected Souls]

found lags post

-vote FM-Matrix6

choo choo

[FM-Gravity Falls]

Just in case someone hammers and ends day early, I'm just gonna say this.

Code Aardvark.

[FM-Mid-Atlantic]

I trust no one will hammer until EoD :P

[FM-Bisected Souls]

wont analysis looney anymore- lost power of will

[FM-Wilder Wastelander]

I trust no one will hammer until EoD :P

3 hours left, nothing important will happens, I think. So you can hammer if you have nothing more to say.

[FM-Mid-Atlantic]

wont analysis looney anymore- lost power of will

you made no analysis of anything basically this whole day. -.-

[FM-Mid-Atlantic]

3 hours left, nothing important will happens, I think. So you can hammer if you have nothing more to say.

already on the train
@Lag , can you hammer for us please!

[FM-Bisected Souls]

you made no analysis of anything basically this whole day. -.-

lol
i was doing analysis and promised to post it- but nothing worked out

[FM-Mid-Atlantic]

lol
i was doing analysis and promised to post it- but nothing worked out

like I said, you made no analysis of anything the whole day >.>

[FM-Bisected Souls]

if you dont want to hammer
vote lag

[FM-Silent Night]

I honestly wouldn't be mad about an early hammer. I doubt there is any world where the train switches and I am kinda excited to see the flip. Spent way too much time obsessing over it all.

[FM-Gravity Falls]

Who are the scum candidates should Matrix flip town?

[FM-Gravity Falls]

Who are the scum candidates should Matrix flip town?

(Or neutral)

[FM-Mid-Atlantic]

Who are the scum candidates should Matrix flip town?

bisected ofc

[FM-Bisected Souls]

Who are the scum candidates should Matrix flip town?

according to other players opinion, me

[FM-Bisected Souls]

bisected ofc

ofc, huh?
still nooone provided reasons to Sr me - my iso is clean

[FM-Mid-Atlantic]

you can hammer @FM-Gravity Falls

[FM-Mid-Atlantic]

ofc, huh?
still nooone provided reasons to Sr me - my iso is clean

your ISO contains nothing at all 🤨🤔 LOL

[FM-Gravity Falls]

Who are the scum candidates should Matrix flip town?

you can hammer @FM-Gravity Falls

I'm waiting for a more complete answer to this question

[FM-Bisected Souls]

your ISO contains nothing at all 🤨🤔 LOL

nai, so?
then it isnt scum ai.

[FM-Mid-Atlantic]

I'm waiting for a more complete answer to this question

well, who else would you seriously consider a candidate besides bisected?

[FM-Silent Night]

Without cult conversion or disguiser considerations I have not solved anyone else in my POE today so mine would be the same.

It may also be good to break down how much mana each player would have if Matrix is not the cult.

[FM-Mid-Atlantic]

nai, so?
then it isnt scum ai.

god. you just don't even understand how horrible and moronic of a response this is. clearly scum or dumb. which is why you're a liability either way. you gotta go bud

[FM-Gravity Falls]

Without cult conversion or disguiser considerations I have not solved anyone else in my POE today so mine would be the same.

It may also be good to break down how much mana each player would have if Matrix is not the cult.

You would have 5 mana rn, Last Hope would be at 6, everyone else would be at 4.

[FM-Bisected Souls]

well, who else would you seriously consider a candidate besides bisected?

And i trusted you inn chat

[FM-Bisected Souls]

god. you just don't even understand how horrible and moronic of a response this is. clearly scum or dumb. which is why you're a liability either way. you gotta go bud

ah. the more i play, the more i support wilder

[FM-Wilder Wastelander]

according to other players opinion, me

Or Silent Night.

[FM-Wilder Wastelander]

If both Bisected and Matrix aren't scums, Silent Night is cultist for sure.

[FM-Wilder Wastelander]

clearly scum or dumb.

Just a jester. With 3 targeted kills on voters. Entertainment incoming!

[FM-Bisected Souls]

Just a jester. With 3 targeted kills on voters. Entertainment incoming!

thing is: mid knows my role
mid knows my secrets
mid knew that i had undestroyable proof for all stars that hes town

[FM-Silent Night]

thing is: mid knows my role
mid knows my secrets
mid knew that i had undestroyable proof for all stars that hes town

This is interesting. You don't have to say what it is but when did you get that proof?

[FM-Bisected Souls]

This is interesting. You don't have to say what it is but when did you get that proof?

its the way the reasearch chat was created

[FM-Bisected Souls]

now hammer matrix

[FM-Gravity Falls]

well, who else would you seriously consider a candidate besides bisected?

Mmm. Not sure. If Matrix is town, we still need to find both the neutral and the last cult. Totally possible the cop is countered either by insanity or a godfather, so maybe Politico?

[FM-Gravity Falls]

If I hammer Matrix how does it benefit us

[FM-Silent Night]

I woulden't mind seeing the flip as well. I might enjoy some cheesecake sandwich later although there is no rush. Kinda feels like were mostly just hanging out right now

[FM-Bisected Souls]

If I hammer Matrix how does it benefit us

not giving living players possible mana
hmu if you want to chat in thread tonight