S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

[Mesk514]

given my game break strategy?

eh, I think most of us are in agreeance with this strategy. while it was you who suggested it, I don't think that it warrants +101 town points. maybe more like, +5. It's not a beneficial suggestion to make as a red or whatever we're calling mafia this game, but it doesn't elimate you being a neut, as depending on what neut you are, can be beneficial to you. But that +5 points is enough to put you ahead of MZ in the town pool.

but y'all are literally sitting in 4th from the bottom, I don't really consider you guys to be scum leans.

[Mesk514]

I am curious as to how I could do this but you read me as 'on par' with Matt in your read.

eh, let me be more clear. as clear as I possibly can try to be. If it were you, me and MZ left for neut, I would personally hand the noose to MZ. but on my list, you two are in the same spot cause it shouldn't ever even come down to that as it's very very very unlikely it A- Gets to that point given I'm confident in my lower reads, and B-ya both give me a headache tryna wrap my brain around your fancy plays.

you say you broke the game, ok... well, idk what you did but I appreciate the carry if the motivation was truly townie lol

[Mesk514]

but like i also said, theres neuts with win cons that can align with town, so it's beneficial for a neut, if they have that win con, to suggest this kind of shit.

my momma used to say never say never, lol. good old momma, love her but... that cunt.. anyways, I don't wanna say "a scum would never break the game in a way that totally unbeneficial to them".... just to get butt fucked left right and center and left looking like a duped moron

[Mesk514]

BUT HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THERE'S BIGGER FISH TO FRY THAN NEUTS

MIKE NEEDS TO GO NEXT ALKHJSKLJHDSFG;HDF;FKHJDFKLJDHJDJKF;HGLHGH;GDF

if he flips town I will literally commit sudoku

[Helz]

Have you read the last few pages of chat? I am a little confused. You are saying you understand what I suggested but also that it could be a neutral alignment play and pushing for a mike lynch.

Did you plan on the mike lynch in your mafia chat?

[Mesk514]

Have you read the last few pages of chat? I am a little confused. You are saying you understand what I suggested but also that it could be a neutral alignment play and pushing for a mike lynch.

from my understanding, you suggested we skip lynches while the tpr's gather more info to create a town block. I'm in agreeance with this. and when we're done gathering info, we shall lynch mike :P
I mean, at this point, what the fuck does it even matter what reads I have, or if I think you're a neut or town or a fucking monkey with nipple tassles... with this play, it will sort itself, yeah? someone just check mike first 😂

Did you plan on the mike lynch in your mafia chat?

wow, how did you know? were you there? 😋

[Helz]

from my understanding, you suggested we skip lynches while the tpr's gather more info to create a town block. I'm in agreeance with this. and when we're done gathering info, we shall lynch mike :P
I mean, at this point, what the fuck does it even matter what reads I have, or if I think you're a neut or town or a fucking monkey with nipple tassles... with this play, it will sort itself, yeah? someone just check mike first 😂



wow, how did you know? were you there? 😋

Sure, but as your momma use to say- "a scum would never break the game in a way that totally unbeneficial to them"

So how could I benefit as a mafia or as a neutral from the plan I pushed? You have specifically voiced a lack of town cred for my actions there and I would like to understand what your thought process was.

[Mike]

Mesk, you tryed to get me lynched day1. You are tunneling me. Yes I have ignored you becuse I have said it over and over.

MattZed and Freckles mafia team yes it is i this easy

You are just Neitral the way you have been acting EXE

Like is said
Town
Me
Oberon
Helz
MM
FB

This is the game solved.

[Helz]

This is the game solved.

I would push against that feeling although your view lines up with mine at the moment.

How do you feel about Frinckles reaction to my plan?

[Mike]

Now wat h freckles come on with so now mesk is neutral just becise she scum reads you?

ISO me today you will see it has been my reads for awhile. Just thought I would stop the scum paint before it begins.

[Mike]

I would push against that feeling although your view lines up with mine at the moment.

How do you feel about Frinckles reaction to my plan?

I don’t think it was AI Frinckles as a player I have respect for and I belive he would say that regardless of alignment.

I still think he is mafia. But not becise of that.

[Helz]

Now wat h freckles come on with so now mesk is neutral just becise she scum reads you?

ISO me today you will see it has been my reads for awhile. Just thought I would stop the scum paint before it begins.

Wut?

[Mesk514]

Sure, but as your momma use to say- "a scum would never break the game in a way that totally unbeneficial to them"

So how could I benefit as a mafia or as a neutral from the plan I pushed? You have specifically voiced a lack of town cred for my actions there and I would like to understand what your thought process was.

nononononononono, I said there are neuts who can win with town and have town like wincons...so if by chance you were a neut, it would be beneficial to use this strategy as it is beneficial to you as well.
From my understanding, not all the neut options are really harmful to town, like the holy guardian, and it's beneficial for them to play on the majority side.

as i write this i realize after triple checking the damn setup that the rest of the neuts don't have to live til the end, i really was under the assumption they did to secure the win, so i understand where you're confused.

but anyways, i didn't think, if neuts had to live to the end, you guys were harmful neuts.... unlike MM who gives a scummy vibe and no sense of real association with anyone besides his slight white knight moment of Frostbyte and poking MZ.

I SAID WHAT I SAID AND IM STICKING TO IT. that's my opinion.

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[Mesk514]

and when you rebuttal with all your fancy reasoning that is probably all correct I shall say

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[Mesk514]

and you know what, im still gonna keep you as is cause I don't like you using your real logic to tell me my read on you is wrong 😂 ya get the spot out of pure pettiness now

[Helz]

and when you rebuttal with all your fancy reasoning that is probably all correct I shall say

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I am far too intoxicated to rebuttal with fancy reasoning : )

[Mesk514]

I am far too intoxicated to rebuttal with fancy reasoning : )

and see, while I love you deeply, I completely hate you and that brain of yours...cause even if god gave me the gift of the best brain in the world, a far too intoxicated helz would always have better logic than me

[Helz]

and see, while I love you deeply, I completely hate you and that brain of yours...cause even if god gave me the gift of the best brain in the world, a far too intoxicated helz would always have better logic than me

Nah
Im just good at that shit because I have taken the time to study meta cognition and focused on changing how I think. You are naturally intelligent but unmotivated in that direction.

Its not that you can't. Its that its just not enough of a priority for you to put the required time in.

[Mesk514]

Nah
Im just good at that shit because I have taken the time to study meta cognition and focused on changing how I think. You are naturally intelligent but unmotivated in that direction.

Its not that you can't. Its that its just not enough of a priority for you to put the required time in.

wow. the man himself said I was naturally intelligent. swoooooooooooon

anyways, on a side note... yeah, i don't know. I agree with mike, lol, i am tunnelling, but i feel i have the reasoning to back it up.
he doesn't have to go today... but i would definitely advocate him for being checked first. the game sorts itself out if your plan truly works, which i see no reason it shouldn't.

for all i know, you're all the scum and I'm the lone citizen and y'all are just tryna make me lose my damn mind.

[Mesk514]

I'm meant to play with people like Zedus. Who signed me up for a big kids game?

[Mike]

I'm meant to play with people like Zedus. Who signed me up for a big kids game?

PTB is a better player than zedus.

[Mesk514]

PTB is a better player than zedus.

disgusting you would ever mention such a horrendous name around me.

-vote Mike

[Frinckles]

-vote mike

opportunistic shit get fucking lynched

[Helz]

-vote mike

opportunistic shit get fucking lynched

Was this decided in your team chat?

[Mesk514]

Was this decided in your team chat?

oh, you asked me the same question.
YES! Frinckles was there too!

[Helz]

oh, you asked me the same question.
YES! Frinckles was there too!

I am fairly confident you and I are not on the same team through multiple methods. I am not so sure about Frinckles but his reaction to my game break was awful.

[Mesk514]

I am fairly confident you and I are not on the same team through multiple methods. I am not so sure about Frinckles but his reaction to my game break was awful.

😂 ok, well, I'm sorry you feel that way

[Helz]

😂 ok, well, I'm sorry you feel that way

Me too

[Mesk514]

question, cause this is really what im hung up on right now, does the guardian's target have to survive to the end of the game?

[Mesk514]

alright, imma just go to bed then since y'all just wanna browse the thread.
I'm not worried regardless what anyone *cough cough* thinks of my alignment, game sorts itself right?

toodles
see ya in the am

[FrostByte]

disgusting you would ever mention such a horrendous name around me.

-vote Mike

You vote him because of ass kissing and not interacting with you. Given how you haven't posted much (not trying to scum paint, just stating facts) I'd say most people are guilty of the latter.

You feel that strongly about him pocketing people?

[FrostByte]

-vote mike

opportunistic shit get fucking lynched

Holy shit the projection is real as fuck. Piggyback off of someone else lmao

This type of voting with 0 justification constantly is infantile. I thought you were a better player than this.

@Mesk514 I'm open to the idea of Mike being scum but I'm gonna need a better case than his ass kissing, when you get a chance

[Helz]

@Mesk514 I'm open to the idea of Mike being scum but I'm gonna need a better case than his ass kissing, when you get a chance

Not sure why you are poking her. At this point given her reaction she is borderline outed scum.

Who do you favor between MM and Matt?

[Oberon]

Frinckles and Mesk probably need to go, I agree.

[Oberon]

question, cause this is really what im hung up on right now, does the guardian's target have to survive to the end of the game?

That sounds like a very specific question

[Oberon]

You vote him because of ass kissing and not interacting with you. Given how you haven't posted much (not trying to scum paint, just stating facts) I'd say most people are guilty of the latter.

You feel that strongly about him pocketing people?

I notice a pretty big difference in the way you treat Frinckles and Mesk, why specifically mention you’re not trying to scumpaint Mesk? This implies you’re actually townreading or on the same team with her

[Oberon]

I think the voters on it are pretty serious LOL

I think this post smells like scum sitting on the fence on MZ’s lynch. This looks like MZ getting spewed town here

[Oberon]

Also I still think FrostByte is scum on a reread, with Mesk. Frinckles is probably a neutral of some sort.

[Mike]

-vote mike

opportunistic shit get fucking lynched

You sleeping the exe. That is scummy as all fuck. Mesk starts the votes on me day 1 and tunnels me day 2 and starts a vote on me becise I hate Zedus and said even PTB is better than Zedus. You also decided to throw the plan away to lynch a town. Maybe I was wrong about your reaction to Helz plan maybe you are upset becuse you know you are outed.

Sorry you riled Mafia in a broken ladder game it sucks balls. But it is what it is. Maybe ask the Mods if this setup willl not count to the ladder ratings.

[Mike]

Btw

-vote skip

[Mike]

@Oberon what do you want to do you are the only one confirmed. Right now. We only have 4 hours left of the day.

[Mike]

You sleeping the exe. That is scummy as all fuck. Mesk starts the votes on me day 1 and tunnels me day 2 and starts a vote on me becise I hate Zedus and said even PTB is better than Zedus. You also decided to throw the plan away to lynch a town. Maybe I was wrong about your reaction to Helz plan maybe you are upset becuse you know you are outed.

Sorry you riled Mafia in a broken ladder game it sucks balls. But it is what it is. Maybe ask the Mods if this setup willl not count to the ladder ratings.

I am typing on a phone becise my computer has been having problems logging on to the site. Auwt and MM can confirm out of game as I asked for help on logging into the site out of the game when day 2 started.
Anyways my grammar may be crap done trying to proof read is a pain and I don’t.

You also decided to throw the plan away to lynch a town.
“ I am trying to say Freckles was throwing the plan away to skip and follow the sheriff and decided to just lynch a town meaning me. I wanted to clarify that before someone trying to scum paint me for a grammar screwup.
When I said “

[Mike]

And it screwed up again the paste was supposed to be after when I said not before

[Mike]

We are in the last hours no is talking.

[FrostByte]

I notice a pretty big difference in the way you treat Frinckles and Mesk, why specifically mention you’re not trying to scumpaint Mesk? This implies you’re actually townreading or on the same team with her

I was specifically avoiding scumpainting for not being super active. I'm not avoiding scumpainting Mesk all together.

[FrostByte]

Not sure why you are poking her. At this point given her reaction she is borderline outed scum.

Who do you favor between MM and Matt?

I voted Matt after he thunderdomed. I favor MM by a cunt hair.

[FrostByte]

We are in the last hours no is talking.

This roster hasn't been super active. Right now it's morning in NA and everyone is probably being productive.

[Mike]

@Frinckles @mesk

As Mafia try and build worlds to get mislynch. Correct? Please ISO me and show me anywhere I have down that. Also in a 9p setup building a town core is bad for mafia mafia try and tear down a town core. Becuse if ours them by POE. So hmm let’s see Mafia only has 2 partners.
I went ageist the grain on FB when everyone wanted to lynch him. Unless I am his partner.
I have been advocating ageist MM lynch unless I am his partner.
When Mattzed was hard pushing Oberon I was not happy about that train. Well I can’t be his partner. Lol
I was the first one to find Helz when Matt asked me my reads. Then he sheeped me on them: calling me bleeding town.

So if I am Mafia am I not screwing myself here?

Remember those Lynch’s had tracktion. Now if one of them did pocketed me and is truly mafia. I could have cost town the win because I will be turboed after.

This is the reason I am wanting the skip.

So both of you love to hear your thoughts.

[FrostByte]

Also I still think FrostByte is scum on a reread, with Mesk. Frinckles is probably a neutral of some sort.

Has your brain developed object permanence yet? Asking for science.

[Mike]

@Frinckles @mesk

As Mafia try and build worlds to get mislynch. Correct? Please ISO me and show me anywhere I have down that. Also in a 9p setup building a town core is bad for mafia mafia try and tear down a town core. Becuse if ours them by POE. So hmm let’s see Mafia only has 2 partners.
I went ageist the grain on FB when everyone wanted to lynch him. Unless I am his partner.
I have been advocating ageist MM lynch unless I am his partner.
When Mattzed was hard pushing Oberon I was not happy about that train. Well I can’t be his partner. Lol
I was the first one to find Helz when Matt asked me my reads. Then he sheeped me on them: calling me bleeding town.

So if I am Mafia am I not screwing myself here?

Remember those Lynch’s had tracktion. Now if one of them did pocketed me and is truly mafia. I could have cost town the win because I will be turboed after.

This is the reason I am wanting the skip.

So both of you love to hear your thoughts.

@Mesk514