S-FM 308: Mallow's Anti-Vaxxing Crusade

[AIVION]

Frinckles 100% I think Baker is town this game.

Startin to see that way too.... Just a tad though.

[bakermir]

I found another Town.

2 scum reads so fare Zedus and Freckles. only 1 Scum. need to hear from MM also.

Scum role is named after MM so I was going to vote him for that reason until I was greeted with Zedus goin ham on Rene. i don't know wassup

also not sure if spoiling aivion is a good idea. i need more shitposting

[Mike]

Also, remeber. If you want Martin's plan works, we need 2 or better 3 players claim target the same person. Scum have only one shot, so he will not risk to guess 1 of 3 targers.

But if EVERYONE will claim different person, scum will easy find sb. If his target is not converted and only one possible SB will call this target, he will just shoot the caller. That's why we must not spread our claims around and focus on 3 persons maximum.

Why am I chose Martin to check? Because his plan is great, but useful for scum too without my remark.

Why not Renegade? Because we will lynch him anyway. There is very low chance that he is not scum, then I will check Martin (if I am SB). But most likely we will just win d1 after lynching Renegade.

No offence but I would lynch him even if he was town because he seems to try and suck the fun out of the game. With this reads are bad only do mechanics. But I gett the feeling he is trying to hunt for SB that is scummy

Or he is town trying to break the game either way I am ok with this. If we get the mafia on day one great easy win but lets play the game not try and ruin Banana game. I know how that feels.

-vote zedus

[AIVION]

Scum role is named after MM so I was going to vote him for that reason until I was greeted with Zedus goin ham on Rene. i don't know wassup

also not sure if spoiling aivion is a good idea. i need more shitposting

Well. I mean your not WRONG. :3

Also Obviously MM is scum like cmon. <3

[bakermir]

Well. I mean your not WRONG. :3

Also Obviously MM is scum like cmon. <3

i knew it..

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

[AIVION]

No offence but I would lynch him even if he was town because he seems to try and suck the fun out of the game. With this reads are bad only do mechanics. But I gett the feeling he is trying to hunt for SB that is scummy

Or he is town trying to break the game either way I am ok with this. If we get the mafia on day one great easy win but lets play the game not try and ruin Banana game. I know how that feels.

-vote zedus

I'm still on the fritz with Zedus as of now. But I would like to see if he branches out of the tree he's decided to sit in this game so far.

[AIVION]

i knew it..

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

OwO

[bakermir]

OwO

MM = MM


/solve

[Mike]

Scum role is named after MM so I was going to vote him for that reason until I was greeted with Zedus goin ham on Rene. i don't know wassup

also not sure if spoiling aivion is a good idea. i need more shitposting

Not Spoiling Aivion if Aivion was mafia Trust me I would out her in a heart beat ask her lol. For me Aivion is an easy read. Meta wise. Sorry Aivion

[Zedus]

Maybe my english is bad, I will try to explain another way.

Let players be A, B, C, D, E, F. A is scum.

Example 1.
A: if I am SB i will check B.
B: if I am SB i will check C.
C: if I am SB i will check D.
D: if I am SB i will check E.
E: if I am SB i will check F.
F: if I am SB i will check A.

Night 1. A trying to recruit D and failed. Now he will shoot C next night.


Example 2.
A: if I am SB i will check F.
B: if I am SB i will check F.
C: if I am SB i will check D.
D: if I am SB i will check F.
E: if I am SB i will check D.
F: if I am SB i will check D.

Night 1. A trying to recruit D and failed. SB is C, E or F, guessing chance is 1/3. Bad idea to shoot.


Also. Most likely the persons in possible SB's visit list will not be recruited even if not protected. Will scum risk to recruid D if 3 players said they will check him as SB? Likely not.

[AIVION]

Not Spoiling Aivion if Aivion was mafia Trust me I would out her in a heart beat ask her lol. For me Aivion is an easy read. Meta wise. Sorry Aivion

No Offense taken I'm an open book most the time...



Kind of my downfall as well sometimes xD

[AIVION]

Maybe my english is bad, I will try to explain another way.

Let players be A, B, C, D, E, F. A is scum.

Example 1.
A: if I am SB i will check B.
B: if I am SB i will check C.
C: if I am SB i will check D.
D: if I am SB i will check E.
E: if I am SB i will check F.
F: if I am SB i will check A.

Night 1. A trying to recruit D and failed. Now he will shoot C next night.


Example 2.
A: if I am SB i will check F.
B: if I am SB i will check F.
C: if I am SB i will check D.
D: if I am SB i will check F.
E: if I am SB i will check D.
F: if I am SB i will check D.

Night 1. A trying to recruit D and failed. SB is C, E or F, guessing chance is 1/3. Bad idea to shoot.


Also. Most likely the persons in possible SB's visit list will not be recruited even if not protected. Will scum risk to recruid D if 3 players said they will check him as SB? Likely not.

...I need to reflect on this a bit.

Back to my waterfall...

[MartinGG99]

Also, remeber. If you want Martin's plan works, we need 2 or better 3 players claim target the same person.

You're assuming my plan tbh.

I had my own reasons for it, but it also works fine (or maybe better) if everyone else announces who they will visit as a hypothetical SB.

[Mike]

I will say this I Do not want to see Aivion, Ren, Baker Lynched Day 1. I know I cant believe that is my town circle either. Martin is not in that circle yet. But I dont want to see him lynched as of yet. So fare the only ones I am ok with and in order of who i would want lynched first is Zedus Freckles and DM.

I need to hear from MM to get a good read on him.

[Zedus]

No offence but I would lynch him even if he was town because he seems to try and suck the fun out of the game.

Total bullshit. Martin have a plan. I improved the plan. What did you did? Nothing.

With this reads are bad only do mechanics.

"Reads" doesn't work.

But I gett the feeling he is trying to hunt for SB that is scummy

Feeling doesn't work too. Also explain in details how am I "hunt for SB"?

Or he is town trying to break the game either way I am ok with this.

Also explain how am I "trying to break the game" with this plan? Are you mad?

[Zedus]

I need to hear from MM to get a good read on him.

"good read" is most funny thing I ever read here

[Zedus]

Renegade is scum. That's a good read.

[bakermir]

Not Spoiling Aivion if Aivion was mafia Trust me I would out her in a heart beat ask her lol. For me Aivion is an easy read. Meta wise. Sorry Aivion

yeah i get you on that. i was reading your game with lunatics asylum stuff and aivion was qutie towny there.

also what do you think of zedus plan/offer on everyone claiming a sb target?

i can only see scum benefitting from this information because no one knows who scum is except the scum themself

[AIVION]

"good read" is most funny thing I ever read here

My head hurts.

[MartinGG99]

Frinckles 100% I think Baker is town this game.

I don't have it at 100%, but I recently had a deep thought about one of Bakermir's posts and I can definitely say there's a fairly higher chance that he's town for now rather than scum.

Though I will say I didn't come to that conclusion easily, but I did come upon it rather confidently in my current determination.

Though he isn't lock-town for today, and especially not tomorrow because for all we know MM might've converted and we may need to re-eval.

[Zedus]

You're assuming my plan tbh.

I had my own reasons for it, but it also works fine (or maybe better) if everyone else announces who they will visit as a hypothetical SB.

Yes, your plan is good, but it can out SB for n2, and I explained with 2 examples how does at work and how to improve your plan to hide SB.

[AIVION]

-vote Zedus

He's not responding to my questions I've asked him.

Time to prod him to do so

[Mike]

You're assuming my plan tbh.

I had my own reasons for it, but it also works fine (or maybe better) if everyone else announces who they will visit as a hypothetical SB.

It also gives the MAfia who is visting who to help them plan there move.

StealthBomber
Your job is to educate.
Night Action: Target a player to educate them. If you hit a Concerned Parent, they will become permanently immune to propaganda. If you hit an Anti-Vaxxer, they will die. If you hit Marshmallow Marshall, they will kill you.

Marshmallow Marshall
If you target StealthBomber or an immune Concerned Parent the conversion will fail but they will still receive feedback

We do not want the MM to know who they can and can not hit.

[Zedus]

also what do you think of zedus plan/offer on everyone claiming a sb target?

It's not MY plan. It's Martin's plan. You lied 3 times in 4 pages. Suspicious.

Well, I changing my SB's target for you now. Fixing it in sig.

[AIVION]

It also gives the MAfia who is visting who to help them plan there move.

StealthBomber
Your job is to educate.
Night Action: Target a player to educate them. If you hit a Concerned Parent, they will become permanently immune to propaganda. If you hit an Anti-Vaxxer, they will die. If you hit Marshmallow Marshall, they will kill you.

Marshmallow Marshall
If you target StealthBomber or an immune Concerned Parent the conversion will fail but they will still receive feedback

We do not want the MM to know who they can and can not hit.

Kinda what I was thinking too, i've seen plans like this before with like... N0 cop checks or something but that didn't involve literal Night Actions... especially from one of the most important roles in this setup.

[Mike]

yeah i get you on that. i was reading your game with lunatics asylum stuff and aivion was qutie towny there.

also what do you think of zedus plan/offer on everyone claiming a sb target?

i can only see scum benefitting from this information because no one knows who scum is except the scum themself

Ty That is my point exactly.

[Zedus]

He's not responding to my questions I've asked him.

What questions? This forum crashed nearly 5 times for last hour, maybe I missed something. Re-answer again plz.

[AIVION]

Bakermir is starting to impress me more :3

[Mike]

I don't have it at 100%, but I recently had a deep thought about one of Bakermir's posts and I can definitely say there's a fairly higher chance that he's town for now rather than scum.

Though I will say I didn't come to that conclusion easily, but I did come upon it rather confidently in my current determination.

Though he isn't lock-town for today, and especially not tomorrow because for all we know MM might've converted and we may need to re-eval.

I like the awkwardness in this post. I can see him trying to evaluate not push an agenda. Welcome to the town circle. Say hi to Aivion, Baker, Ren.

[Frinckles]

I dont think its Zedus but I can't read him anyway. I'd vote DM/Ren here.

[bakermir]

It's not MY plan. It's Martin's plan. You lied 3 times in 4 pages. Suspicious.

Well, I changing my SB's target for you now. Fixing it in sig.

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i can't see signatures man so let me know about the changes you make, ok?


and I don't see anything wrong with Martin's question but I do see a lot of wrongs with where you were trying to pull it.


How does any of your posts justify a Renegade lynch?

[MartinGG99]

It's not MY plan. It's Martin's plan.

Please stop saying it's my plan. My "Plan" was simply this:

Hello everyone

If I am Stealthbomber, then I am checking Marshmallow Marshall tonight.

Spoiler : Img :

Because even in the eyes of Random.Org he's most likely the be the evil here.

At no point did I lay out anything or suggest anything that others should do.

[Zedus]

It also gives the MAfia who is visting who to help them plan there move.

StealthBomber
Your job is to educate.
Night Action: Target a player to educate them. If you hit a Concerned Parent, they will become permanently immune to propaganda. If you hit an Anti-Vaxxer, they will die. If you hit Marshmallow Marshall, they will kill you.

Marshmallow Marshall
If you target StealthBomber or an immune Concerned Parent the conversion will fail but they will still receive feedback

We do not want the MM to know who they can and can not hit.

That's why I corrected Martin's original plan. Why you pretending to be stupid now? You are not, and I know it.

[Mike]

Yes, your plan is good, but it can out SB for n2, and I explained with 2 examples how does at work and how to improve your plan to hide SB.

He keeps pointing it is martins plan over and over. It is going to be this easy and Zedus Is the MAfia?

[AIVION]

What questions? This forum crashed nearly 5 times for last hour, maybe I missed something. Re-answer again plz.

Fine, I'll re-quote myself:

He's sorta acting like he did in Spirits where he was a Citizen.

Can you give me examples of his scum play vs town play that's pinging you this game?

Because all this sounds like to me is "GRR ME HATE RENEGADE! ME SMASH!! RAAAAAAA!!"

Are you Town reading Martin then since you're following this plan with such enthusiasm?

All I've seen from you is "Oh man this plan makes my rocks hard! I like Martin! Me HATE Renegade! THATS ALL FOLKS!"

Substance please

@Zedus

[MartinGG99]

i can't see signatures man so let me know about the changes you make, ok?

He basically has the same sig but it now says he'll be visiting you on N1.

[Zedus]

Bakermir is starting to impress me more :3

This game is about finding scum, not about impressing you.
We have only one plan to play now. Martin's with my corrections. Do you have another, better plan?

[Frinckles]

Who cares who's plan it is unless you're expecting some accountability in the event of a mislynch. Just do it or don't

[Mike]

I dont think its Zedus but I can't read him anyway. I'd vote DM/Ren here.

PLease explaine to me why you have a scum read on Ren. I just dont see it.

[AIVION]

I dont think its Zedus but I can't read him anyway. I'd vote DM/Ren here.

This post feels shallow.

But at the same time I can slightly get where you're coming from with Zedus sooooo...

:shrug:

[AIVION]

This game is about finding scum, not about impressing you.
We have only one plan to play now. Martin's with my corrections. Do you have another, better plan?

Yeah play the game?

And so far I'm starting to think my vote won't be moving from how YOU are playing it so far.

[Mike]

This game is about finding scum, not about impressing you.
We have only one plan to play now. Martin's with my corrections. Do you have another, better plan?

YES

-vote Zedus

LOL

[AIVION]

YES

-vote Zedus

LOL

It's really sad I don't really think he's bad but...

Omg is he frustrating...

[Frinckles]

PLease explaine to me why you have a scum read on Ren. I just dont see it.

This post feels shallow.

But at the same time I can slightly get where you're coming from with Zedus sooooo...

:shrug:

I'm not allowed to pillow push? I took Zedus' side and he starts off his first post directed at me with a WTF?

I look at who is scummiest to least scummy. He and DM are the most scummy. DM is far too aloof.

My mentions of Zedus were because I get sick of the endless circle of zedus/ren.

[bakermir]

Bakermir is starting to impress me more :3

how?

[Mike]

LOL I just noticed my 3 top scum reads are all on same person

Zedus (2 [L-3]):
AIVION, Mike
Renegade (3 [L-2]):
Zedus, Frinckles, Dark Magician
Marshmallow Marshall (1 [L-4]):
bakermir

I know there is only 1 scum but I just found it funny.

[bakermir]

He basically has the same sig but it now says he'll be visiting you on N1.

yea thank you. so does that mean he will be protecting me from MM?



DID YOU HEAR THAT MM?

[Frinckles]

Sure, Ren could be just upset because those two are arch enemies, but really. Town ren is usually more chill and has a line of questioning attached to his posts. I've seen him skate by.

[AIVION]

I'm not allowed to pillow push? I took Zedus' side and he starts off his first post directed at me with a WTF?

I look at who is scummiest to least scummy. He and DM are the most scummy. DM is far too aloof.

My mentions of Zedus were because I get sick of the endless circle of zedus/ren.

Tbh I'm starting to see why Zedus could be considered quite frustrating now that I'm actually playing with him.


As a host I didn't see it but WOW.

....

[Frinckles]

LOL I just noticed my 3 top scum reads are all on same person

Zedus (2 [L-3]):
AIVION, Mike
Renegade (3 [L-2]):
Zedus, Frinckles, Dark Magician
Marshmallow Marshall (1 [L-4]):
bakermir

I know there is only 1 scum but I just found it funny.

bro we're all on the same team!