S-FM 243: Your Everyday Average Game

**Efekannn02** · January 22nd, 2018, 02:49 AM

Originally Posted by Gyrlander

I have watched Made in Abyss, but no idea about Princess Principal.

How do you know I haven't watched that >> I have a lot of free time for the next 2 weeks so I'll make sure I start watching it

nvm can you actually jail me? i would give reads and such too

**Stealthbomber16** · January 22nd, 2018, 07:04 AM

I just realized I forgot to reply to naz’s iso on me so I’ll do that via mobile over the course of the day today.

**Efekannn02** · January 22nd, 2018, 08:16 AM

why am i a null read when i already revealed d1?

**Stealthbomber16** · January 22nd, 2018, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by naz

SO IM NOT THE ONLY FUCKING PERSON WITH AN ISO, HERES ONE ON SB16:

SB16's early posts giving me strong town vibes:
The third post you quoted here was completely fluff and shouldn’t be under this category.

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reasons why i thought he and MM were skyper team:
1)
This doesn’t cover the context, where blink says he’d lynch MM based on his secondary role. In this angle, my response is fairly pro-town.
2)
This was actually a post I quoted in my LW about why Scv was a skyper. Turns out I was wrong. But I don’t mind given the scenario.

The basis is a Freudian Slip. If someone repeatedly mentions something (in this case, a skyper) it probably has deeper root in their subconscious. This has practical implications in the mid as well. If someone says “we need to lynch the arso” on day 2 of a setup where the nk isn’t confirmed, they’re probably arso.
this could be seen as him trying to brush off people believing skypers exist

3) here in this long post he can be seen buddying with MM
Earlier you said that me asking for a maf to reveal was towny, but advocating for the survival of the only revealed maf at the time is scummy? If I had said to lynch MM at that point in time I’d be scumread as well. There isn’t a way to win.

4) fishypost:
Ill give you this one.

5)
uh, yeah, because MM was only revealed mafia at that point, possibly his buddy.
I don’t follow your logic.
Blink was acting completely stuck up and unjustified in this post, and it’s the simple shrugging off of large posts and walls without explanation that show why I think he’s scum.
6)
Still logically sound. Or do you not think that Soviet would’ve said something if he were telling us incorrect facts?
7)
How is this scummy? You didn’t offer explanation.

I still stand by that statement.

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other SB highlights (i dont really know how to make isos so heres just some posts i find noteworthy):
this post is still noteworthy

throwin shade:

Is it shade if I pursue blink the next day? Hybrid still makes me uneasy as well, although now I think he could be skyper rather than com hunter.

did we ever hear from suntax?
no
rip soviet_love
rip
don't recall reading ur iso, bro
If you really want my iso if a dead guy I can provide you one. Just never got around to it,

end part 1. about to start part 2

Part 1. Part 2 will probably come significantly closer to EoD.

**Stealthbomber16** · January 22nd, 2018, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by Efekannn02

why am i a null read when i already revealed d1?

Read literally any of my 5 posts addressing this. I’ll even go get one for you, stay tuned.

**Stealthbomber16** · January 22nd, 2018, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

Regardless, my main point about soviet still stands. Saying you're town doesn't make you seem more town. Otherwise efe would be everyone's major townread right now.

If it does, then here's me saying "I'm a rule follower" 100 times, in a spoiler for your convenience.

Spoiler : Exactly as advertised. :

Got it.

**Stealthbomber16** · January 22nd, 2018, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by secondpassing

@Stealthbomber16

You've mentioned that you agree with my choice of night kills as well as some of my reads, but I want YOUR words on your top two scum.

Efe and blink, in that order.
Efe has done nothing all game, and shows continual insolence toward wall posts and a general focus on self preservation rather than the good of the town. MM continually vouches for Efe and a skyper flip there would reflect really poorly on MM.

I believe I’ve made a case on blink already.

**Marshmallow Marshall** · January 22nd, 2018, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by Efekannn02

Ikr But You Still Want Me Dead For It....

I JUST WANT MY CITIZEN WIN FFS!

Not for it. I don't want you dead because you did something, I suspect you because you DID NOT DO anything out of this strategy and shitpost. Quantity > Quality for you. And it's really sad, because you could be a good FM player.

**Marshmallow Marshall** · January 22nd, 2018, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by secondpassing

Checks out.

You know, I actually talk my night kills out with him you know.

out of game replacement mongering is so me like last year
I now give Hybrid a town lean after understanding him better

I confirm.
Are you suspecting Hybrid for that? Because Suntax is really really borderline inactive to death... I'd agree to get him replaced.

**Marshmallow Marshall** · January 22nd, 2018, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by secondpassing

I wasn't actually chastizing you but sure.

I countered my own point about statistics. Reads-wise, MM is most definitely town. I've been with him basically this whole game.. which could mean I'm just blinded by confirmation bias.. I am seriously not in a position to self-analyze.

It's possible that MM is a skyper with Efe, as that jailing seems rather convinient. Apparently (this was said in mafia chat), Efe has actually been making reads but that was two days ago, and I see stagnation in Efe's reads - as evidenced by this continuous voting of me haphazardly as well as an odd reaction to being reasoned to(that or they aren't discussing it with us).

I don't truly see the connection between them though. Independently, I read Efe as bad and MM as good.

Yeah, I don't get why he isn't pushing his strategy more, discussing it instead of shitposting... It's just sad, I thought we had a new Efekannn

**Marshmallow Marshall** · January 22nd, 2018, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by secondpassing

I wasn't actually chastizing you but sure.

I countered my own point about statistics. Reads-wise, MM is most definitely town. I've been with him basically this whole game.. which could mean I'm just blinded by confirmation bias.. I am seriously not in a position to self-analyze.

It's possible that MM is a skyper with Efe, as that jailing seems rather convinient. Apparently (this was said in mafia chat), Efe has actually been making reads but that was two days ago, and I see stagnation in Efe's reads - as evidenced by this continuous voting of me haphazardly as well as an odd reaction to being reasoned to(that or they aren't discussing it with us).

I don't truly see the connection between them though. Independently, I read Efe as bad and MM as good.

Oh yeah, one thing made me get a weird feeling on him. He said he couldn't provide a list of his reads because he was playing "of pure instinct", but told me all his reads in a

-

-

-

form. It's kinda a list of reads.

**Gyrlander** · January 22nd, 2018, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by Efekannn02

nvm can you actually jail me? i would give reads and such too

Do you want to die that badly?

**Gyrlander** · January 22nd, 2018, 10:56 AM

@SuperJack What happens when a COM Hunter's target dies (he chose to help him survive) and therefore loses? Will he still keep playing?

**SuperJack** · January 22nd, 2018, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Gyrlander

@SuperJack What happens when a COM Hunter's target dies (he chose to help him survive) and therefore loses? Will he still keep playing?

Yes! Even though he has failed his objective. He can still win if the host kills 2 rule Followers.

**Stealthbomber16** · January 22nd, 2018, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by naz

More buddying of MM:
Would you call blink and Efe townreading each other buddying? Would you call someone townreading you buddying? I think we have different definitions of the word.

Here's my real reply to this:

First of all bitch, I play SC2Mod, why the fuck else would I be on this godforsaken forum? Guess what happened to Soviet_Love, he FLIPPED RULE FOLLOWER. so fuck you.
I've been making a read that MM is BAD, and been pushing for him to flip because it would give ME so much more information to see how he was interacting with people.
It's about to even out, you could either be MM's buddy from why I've explained in this ISO or you could be town. I'm not sure how I feel about you 100% yet, but I could go either way with you.
I already covered this in a different post so go find that if you want it.
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with your buddying of scum, bro.
Not quoted: this being a response to blink saying that I should have townread Soviet because “he said he was town”. Utter bullshit. You can understand hopefully why I would have a highly sarcastic response to that.
but, after this post:

i got strong town vibes sooo...lets see what MM flips. hopefully you'll get lucky and he won't be a skyper.

That took much less time than I expected, so here it is.

**Efekannn02** · January 22nd, 2018, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Gyrlander

Do you want to die that badly?

Live*

**Marshmallow Marshall** · January 22nd, 2018, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by secondpassing

All you saw was a coalition of reads being merged together. Their reads made sense, their logic made sense. In the some many forum mafia games I've played, scum rarely assume positions that direct town; however, your post did remind me that I need to interact with SB more. MM is great and all, but there is possibly something I'm still missing.

I agree though that this behavior is quite suspicious as I think Stealthbomber16 prefers introspection as opposed to thinking out his indecision on the thread. Perhaps I have gauged his personality wrong?

Thank you for your contribution, since the host did not seem to answer my question due to inactivity, I have no further reason to pursue your lynch.
Additionally, you've earned slightly higher-than-leaning town read from emotional outbursts.

Agreed. For same reasons, I removed my vote on you.

**Marshmallow Marshall** · January 22nd, 2018, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by secondpassing

-vote Efekannn02

There really shouldn't be anything stopping me from killing blinkskater tonight.
If anyone has any objection, I'd like to hear WHY, otherwise it'll just be me and MM in mason frat boy town.

REMEMBER THIS. BOOKMARK #1441. DON'T SAY NOONE ASKED YOU ABOUT THE NIGHT KILL.

**Marshmallow Marshall** · January 22nd, 2018, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by Gyrlander

Hey, I'm in school but this game really got my interest so I'm checking in every now and then :P

I see that today lynch will be between Effe & MM and as I said both are good choices for me so.. ☺️

Explain your case on me, in your own words, please. (When you'll get back from school, it's okay lol)

**Marshmallow Marshall** · January 22nd, 2018, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by blinkskater

Yeah because you obviously dont have the same logic as a follower lol

Elaborate.

**Hybrid** · January 22nd, 2018, 11:55 AM

I dont want to play this game for this day sorry 😢
Tho i ll read up if i want tmrw will see tho

**blinkskater** · January 22nd, 2018, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

That took much less time than I expected, so here it is.

I also said i thought soviet was town because of his posts and the way he was playing as a first time player

**blinkskater** · January 22nd, 2018, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Elaborate.

I know im a follower and have had good feelings on spruance and soviet and they turned out to be followers everyone you are saying is scum ends up a flipping follower

**Efekannn02** · January 22nd, 2018, 12:35 PM

Lynch Me If You Are Town

Let Mafia Win

I Give Up Since Town Wants Me Dead For Playing By My Role

**blinkskater** · January 22nd, 2018, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by Hybrid

I dont want to play this game for this day sorry 😢
Tho i ll read up if i want tmrw will see tho

You shoulf atleast place a vote man

**Hybrid** · January 22nd, 2018, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Efekannn02

Lynch Me If You Are Town

Let Mafia Win

I Give Up Since Town Wants Me Dead For Playing By My Role

Gamethrow conf disto plz modkill

**Hybrid** · January 22nd, 2018, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by blinkskater

You shoulf atleast place a vote man

Dunno i d vote naz or efe rn

**Hybrid** · January 22nd, 2018, 12:38 PM

But efe s gt prolly with his last post made lol

**secondpassing** · January 22nd, 2018, 12:52 PM

Anything I should know? It's near end of day.

**blinkskater** · January 22nd, 2018, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by Hybrid

Dunno i d vote naz or efe rn

I dont feel confident on voting naz how about suntax he is just a waste of space?

**secondpassing** · January 22nd, 2018, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Gyrlander

I have watched Made in Abyss, but no idea about Princess Principal.

How do you know I haven't watched that >> I have a lot of free time for the next 2 weeks so I'll make sure I start watching it

I've only ever met one other person in real life who has watched it. If you can't tell, it's my favorite anime.

and.. could you recommend one to me too

?

**Hybrid** · January 22nd, 2018, 01:00 PM

-vote suntax

I want this comrade to die

**Hybrid** · January 22nd, 2018, 01:00 PM

Reeeeee kill da afk to sho da wae

**Marshmallow Marshall** · January 22nd, 2018, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by blinkskater

I know im a follower and have had good feelings on spruance and soviet and they turned out to be followers everyone you are saying is scum ends up a flipping follower

You forget Scv. How convenient.

**Gyrlander** · January 22nd, 2018, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Explain your case on me, in your own words, please. (When you'll get back from school, it's okay lol)

I have already said it the other posts...

1. I'm convinced there must be a RB in Mafia and as I town-read SecondPassing that only leaves you.

2. I think your comment about Effekannn actually being able to play properly was a way of protecting him without it being too obvious. Honestly, I think on Night 2 you had more interesting targets than a random guy who continously shitposts and talks in Continous Capital Letters Which Give Aids. This can have two meanings:

a. You're Com Hunter which has the objective to help Effe survive and jailed him to encourage him to make reads and be useful (which if you did at Day people may have been suspicious for your special interest in Effe).

b. You're Skyper with Effe and jailed him to 1. Protect him and 2. Have a conversation that you already prepared in Skype chat as a way to have a reason to protect him and say that he has potential.

After all, this is a mixed case on you and Effe.

**Gyrlander** · January 22nd, 2018, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Gyrlander

I have already said it the other posts...

1. I'm convinced there must be a RB in Mafia and as I town-read SecondPassing that only leaves you.

2. I think your comment about Effekannn actually being able to play properly was a way of protecting him without it being too obvious. Honestly, I think on Night 2 you had more interesting targets than a random guy who continously shitposts and talks in Continous Capital Letters Which Give Aids. This can have two meanings:

a. You're Com Hunter which has the objective to help Effe survive and jailed him to encourage him to make reads and be useful (which if you did at Day people may have been suspicious for your special interest in Effe).

b. You're Skyper with Effe and jailed him to 1. Protect him and 2. Have a conversation that you already prepared in Skype chat as a way to have a reason to protect him and say that he has potential.

After all, this is a mixed case on you and Effe.

I had to rush this a bit because I need to have dinner. See u

**blinkskater** · January 22nd, 2018, 01:06 PM

-vote suntax

**Marshmallow Marshall** · January 22nd, 2018, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

Efe and blink, in that order.
Efe has done nothing all game, and shows continual insolence toward wall posts and a general focus on self preservation rather than the good of the town. MM continually vouches for Efe and a skyper flip there would reflect really poorly on MM.

I believe I’ve made a case on blink already.

I feel like Efekannn's strategy doesn't fit with skyper. However, if he flips skyper, I'm in a shit hole... Btw it's kinda Efekannn's meta that you described here. Maybe I should work on a list of reads?

**blinkskater** · January 22nd, 2018, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

You forget Scv. How convenient.

Pure luck

**Marshmallow Marshall** · January 22nd, 2018, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by Hybrid

I dont want to play this game for this day sorry 😢
Tho i ll read up if i want tmrw will see tho

?! Are you just saying "ok I don't wanna play, see yaaaa"!?!??!?!? WTF MAN, THIS IS A CRITICAL DAY!!!!

**Marshmallow Marshall** · January 22nd, 2018, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by blinkskater

Pure luck

...read my posts of D1...

**blinkskater** · January 22nd, 2018, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Hybrid

Reeeeee kill da afk to sho da wae

Dat is da wae

**Marshmallow Marshall** · January 22nd, 2018, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Hybrid

Dunno i d vote naz or efe rn

You obviously didn't read her iso on SB16.

**blinkskater** · January 22nd, 2018, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

...read my posts of D1...

No way to know imo was a 50/50 gamble either follower or breaker

**Marshmallow Marshall** · January 22nd, 2018, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by secondpassing

I've only ever met one other person in real life who has watched it. If you can't tell, it's my favorite anime.

and.. could you recommend one to me too

?

If I recommend you something weiiird... it's Twin Peaks. Watch that xD and enjoy episode #7 (or #8?) of season 1. Enjoy it. I think it's the most confusing.

**Marshmallow Marshall** · January 22nd, 2018, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by blinkskater

No way to know imo was a 50/50 gamble either follower or breaker

Then you are retarded.

**Hybrid** · January 22nd, 2018, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Then you are retarded.

Can i be retardes as well bplz?

**Hybrid** · January 22nd, 2018, 01:14 PM

I m bored gonna read the game i think

**blinkskater** · January 22nd, 2018, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Then you are retarded.

Soviet said it and im saying it just because your tiny little brain doesnt work correctly there was no reason to believe scv to be a bad giy other then the scv is always a bad guy meta your absolute trash and need to be disposed of

**Marshmallow Marshall** · January 22nd, 2018, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by Gyrlander

I have already said it the other posts...

1. I'm convinced there must be a RB in Mafia and as I town-read SecondPassing that only leaves you.

2. I think your comment about Effekannn actually being able to play properly was a way of protecting him without it being too obvious. Honestly, I think on Night 2 you had more interesting targets than a random guy who continously shitposts and talks in Continous Capital Letters Which Give Aids. This can have two meanings:

a. You're Com Hunter which has the objective to help Effe survive and jailed him to encourage him to make reads and be useful (which if you did at Day people may have been suspicious for your special interest in Effe).

b. You're Skyper with Effe and jailed him to 1. Protect him and 2. Have a conversation that you already prepared in Skype chat as a way to have a reason to protect him and say that he has potential.

After all, this is a mixed case on you and Effe.

1 is invalid. I'll retake SB16's words here: it's gambler fallacy. Just no. Also, who did you want me to jail? Suntax, who wouldn't say shit anyway? Hybrid, who said he couldn't be active often? Stealthbomber, who was already giving his thoughts? Blinkskater, the obvious rulebreaker that I thought was getting MK'd or lynched? Hellbot the noob? My own mafia mates, with a night chat to give this kind of informations?? I preferred getting the one who wasn't AFK, just shitposting. And he actually didn't write with full capital letters, so it was a good start lol...

a. If I had Efekannn as a target, I'd pick to get him lynched, especially as a Mafia member, since I could prevent Mafia from killing him. It's rather easy to call on a policy lynch on Efekannn.

b. protect him? I'M MAFIA, WHY THE HECK WOULD I DO THAT??? And I don't think he would be able to prepare a conversation in a potential skyper chat if he was as bad as you say, no? ^^

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