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  1. ISO #601

    Re: S-FM Scum Town 13p

    All night feedback have been handed out if you did not get any feedback from me you don't have any and are still alive.
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  2. ISO #602

    Re: S-FM Scum Town 13p

    Day 2

    In the night one of the Scumbags was killed name was Marshmallow Marshall (scumbag)

    Living Players Graveyard
    @MartinGG99
    @Light_Yagami
    @bakermir
    @StarGunner
    @Auwt
    @FrostByte
    @Happymeal
    @Kelli
    @TCP
    @S-FM Magoroth
    @Grayswagdir
    Dark Magician (Unknown Vengeful Scumbag)
    Marshmallow Marshall (ScumBag)

    Day 2 Ends
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    DAYS HOURS MINUTES SECONDS



    January, 7 6pm CST

    6 votes to hammer.

    Last edited by Mike; January 5th, 2021 at 05:16 PM.
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  6. ISO #606

    Re: S-FM Scum Town 13p

    Okay starting day two, I didn’t get back to my computer in time before the night phase unfortunately I had a few things come up. Here’s what I think I know, Gray/SB16 is confirmed villager or town at least for now I’ll re-eval that later if need be. I know I’m town, I am pretty confident that Happy is town considering we’re reading the game similarly and he feels to be solving the game more than I see other people doing. I also think that FrostByte is leaning town based on the response he had to someone’s push it felt genuine, I’d have to go back and find it but it rang a town bell for me. TCP has had a lot of interactions this game and seems to be coming at things from a town perspective, additionally since MM is confirmed town and DM being confirmed town either means that TCP just has way better reads than other players or he has TMI. I’m going to lean him slightly scummy but it could just be me reading his experience as scummy.

    Final read and then I’ll move on would be Martin. I’m unsure if this is aligned with his scum play or town play but he’s been pinging a lot of people out and asking them the state of the game and trying to generate content. Generally in vm this is towny however I don’t know if it’s the same in FM.

    This is where things get hazy, I don’t have strong reads but rather a few pairings. First would be Frost/Happy I think they are both town but in the event that i’m wrong they could be likely partners. Auwt/Light I have very limited information on both but Auwt made a comment in post #413 that basically was a half assed way of giving them a town read but no backing behind it. This read to me as a partner interaction. Finally Gray/SB16 cannot be with Mag, just the generalized hositility but also the complete opposite way of thinking. This to me says there’s one between them and considering that Gray/SB16 has claimed a PR that says that.

    Again, I don’t have a super strong grasp on what the hell is going on, but I’m trying to figure out partnerships and go from there.

    TLDR

    Villiagers
    Me
    Happy
    Frost
    Gray
    (Dead and confirmed; DM and MM)

    Wolves
    (Lightly) TCP
    Mag

  7. ISO #607

  8. ISO #608

  9. ISO #609

    Re: S-FM Scum Town 13p

    Anyone Got Any Fresh Thoughts On Day 1.

    Here Is What Woulda Been My Last Will Had I Died.

    Martian - Choose To Not Back 2 Of His Top Town Reads. 86.5% Informed

    SFM Magoroth - Uses Yeet. Yeet Is Not A Word. Tunnels Light Hard Seems Towny But Isnt Letting Go Of What Ever Vendetta Is Presumed To Be There. 30% Informed

    Happymeal - Claimed Escort, Activly PR Hunting. 70% Informed

    Marshmallow Marshall - I Was Wrong. Hope You Dont Die. If You Do It Will Likely Be Pinned On Me For A Lynch. I Was Wrong. 0% Informed.

    Dark Magician - Used Dark Magic Attack And Revelied That MM Was Uninformed. Opening Up Sheriff To Find A Scum. Should Have Skipped Day.

    Light Yagami - 0% Informed

    Gunner - With All The Team Four Star DBZ Quotes Seems Like He Was Either Following Me Or Trying To Pocket Me. 25% Informed

    Thats My Break Down Of Day One All That Can Change Depending On How Today Progresses.

  10. ISO #610

    Re: S-FM Scum Town 13p

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelli View Post
    Okay starting day two, I didn’t get back to my computer in time before the night phase unfortunately I had a few things come up. Here’s what I think I know, Gray/SB16 is confirmed villager or town at least for now I’ll re-eval that later if need be. I know I’m town, I am pretty confident that Happy is town considering we’re reading the game similarly and he feels to be solving the game more than I see other people doing. I also think that FrostByte is leaning town based on the response he had to someone’s push it felt genuine, I’d have to go back and find it but it rang a town bell for me. TCP has had a lot of interactions this game and seems to be coming at things from a town perspective, additionally since MM is confirmed town and DM being confirmed town either means that TCP just has way better reads than other players or he has TMI. I’m going to lean him slightly scummy but it could just be me reading his experience as scummy.

    Final read and then I’ll move on would be Martin. I’m unsure if this is aligned with his scum play or town play but he’s been pinging a lot of people out and asking them the state of the game and trying to generate content. Generally in vm this is towny however I don’t know if it’s the same in FM.

    This is where things get hazy, I don’t have strong reads but rather a few pairings. First would be Frost/Happy I think they are both town but in the event that i’m wrong they could be likely partners. Auwt/Light I have very limited information on both but Auwt made a comment in post #413 that basically was a half assed way of giving them a town read but no backing behind it. This read to me as a partner interaction. Finally Gray/SB16 cannot be with Mag, just the generalized hositility but also the complete opposite way of thinking. This to me says there’s one between them and considering that Gray/SB16 has claimed a PR that says that.

    Again, I don’t have a super strong grasp on what the hell is going on, but I’m trying to figure out partnerships and go from there.

    TLDR

    Villiagers
    Me
    Happy
    Frost
    Gray
    (Dead and confirmed; DM and MM)

    Wolves
    (Lightly) TCP
    Mag
    I don't understand how from a villager perspective you think my reads are way better than others to the point you think I have TMI, when I was wrong on Gray, and I decided I would rather vote for DM than MM or Mag before EOD.

  11. ISO #611

    Re: S-FM Scum Town 13p

    Thats The Old One.

    Heres The Updated One I Sent To Host

    Martian - Choose To Not Back 2 Of His Top Uninformed Reads. 86.5% Informed

    SFM Magoroth - Uses Yeet. Yeet Is Not A Word. Tunnels Light Hard Seems Towny But Isnt Letting Go Of Whatever Vendetta Is Presumed To Be There. However, Martian Did Follow Magoroth Instead Of His "Top 2" Uninformed Reads. 56.4% Informed

    Happymeal - Claimed Escort, Activly PR Hunting. 70% Informed

    Marshmallow Marshall - I Was Wrong. Hope You Dont Die. If You Do It Will Likely Be Pinned On Me For A Lynch. I Was Wrong. 0% Informed.

    Dark Magician - Used Dark Magic Attack And Revelied That MM Was Uninformed. Opening Up Sheriff To Find A Scum. Should Have Skipped Day.

    Light Yagami - 0% Informed

    Gunner - With All The Team Four Star DBZ Quotes Seems Like He Was Either Following Light Or Trying To Pocket Light. 25% Informed.

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  13. ISO #613

    Re: S-FM Scum Town 13p

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    Anyone Got Any Fresh Thoughts On Day 1.

    Here Is What Woulda Been My Last Will Had I Died.

    Martian - Choose To Not Back 2 Of His Top Town Reads. 86.5% Informed

    SFM Magoroth - Uses Yeet. Yeet Is Not A Word. Tunnels Light Hard Seems Towny But Isnt Letting Go Of What Ever Vendetta Is Presumed To Be There. 30% Informed

    Happymeal - Claimed Escort, Activly PR Hunting. 70% Informed

    Marshmallow Marshall - I Was Wrong. Hope You Dont Die. If You Do It Will Likely Be Pinned On Me For A Lynch. I Was Wrong. 0% Informed.

    Dark Magician - Used Dark Magic Attack And Revelied That MM Was Uninformed. Opening Up Sheriff To Find A Scum. Should Have Skipped Day.

    Light Yagami - 0% Informed

    Gunner - With All The Team Four Star DBZ Quotes Seems Like He Was Either Following Me Or Trying To Pocket Me. 25% Informed

    Thats My Break Down Of Day One All That Can Change Depending On How Today Progresses.
    When I went back and reread some things the main thing I thought of is that Baker voted on Auwt to get some reads, but he was on after Auwt gave his rankings and didn't respond to it. I thought it was strange.

  14. ISO #614

    Re: S-FM Scum Town 13p

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    You Were On The Dark Magician Train Thus You Are Scum.
    I voted for Dark Magician because I wanted MM to live. I stated that I thought MM was village (because of mind meld) and even got off my thunderdome to try and protect him. That is crystal clear.


    Look at me, I'll roleplay as Light:

    "How Do You Know I'm Scum? You Can. Only Know This If You Are Part Of .The Town. AKA The. Informed Minority. This Is A Slip. Yagami Is Part Of The Uninformed. Minority."

    This is what it sometimes sounds like when I read your posts.



    My bet is that there are wolves or more wolves on the MM train, as MM was the stronger player. I do not believe Martin is a wolf. Wolf Martin chooses to get MM, as wolf Martin knows both trains are good for wolves. I'll look at the trains a bit more later. I just wanted to get my yagami role play in.

  15. ISO #615

    Re: S-FM Scum Town 13p

    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Magoroth View Post
    I voted for Dark Magician because I wanted MM to live. I stated that I thought MM was village (because of mind meld) and even got off my thunderdome to try and protect him. That is crystal clear.


    Look at me, I'll roleplay as Light:

    "How Do You Know I'm Scum? You Can. Only Know This If You Are Part Of .The Town. AKA The. Informed Minority. This Is A Slip. Yagami Is Part Of The Uninformed. Minority."

    This is what it sometimes sounds like when I read your posts.



    My bet is that there are wolves or more wolves on the MM train, as MM was the stronger player. I do not believe Martin is a wolf. Wolf Martin chooses to get MM, as wolf Martin knows both trains are good for wolves. I'll look at the trains a bit more later. I just wanted to get my yagami role play in.
    Man Ur So Funny..

  16. ISO #616

  17. ISO #617

    Re: S-FM Scum Town 13p

    Quote Originally Posted by TCP View Post
    When I went back and reread some things the main thing I thought of is that Baker voted on Auwt to get some reads, but he was on after Auwt gave his rankings and didn't respond to it. I thought it was strange.
    I Went Back To Look And This Is What He Said About That.

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    I think Auwt is just misguided for D1 imo.

    Like, some of his reads or beliefs are so contradictory from what I feel of the game that they're just town. Not many scum would willingly go against some of the consensus or the beliefs of the players with such large thread presence or influence.

    Which sounds like an odd thing to say, and I may be wrong about that but I don't think so. Maybe its a gut thing.

    Though if I had to choose between him and Gray I'm definitely putting Auwt up.

  18. ISO #618

    Re: S-FM Scum Town 13p

    (I wrote this post before day started)

    Whats up nerds? Your savior has arrived.

    Since we're not on day 1 I unfortunately must skip my shitposting phase and go right into actually giving a shit about whats happening. Here's the will I prepared for Mike over the night. It's hard to get a read on a scenario that I wasn't in but I think I've got some good calls here.

    Not listed in this will notably is FrostByte. Upon sleeping on it I should have listed him as a bad guy lean. It's mostly a meta read and I'll have to go back and ISO him for anything particularly fishy.

    The fuck is up nerds? I guess I died tonight because I'm a solved slot, even though MM is mechanically confirmed. I'll be referring to the majority as the "good guys" and the minority as the "bad guys" because it doesn't fit my progressive brain cells to call the evils a minority.

    I did a quick preliminary 1 hour readthrough of day 1. I've got a few specific reads and a few general reads.

    Yagami is by far the goodest guy alive right now in spite of his day 1 skip vote. This is both an objective read and a meta read. From an objective side of things Yagami has had reasoning behind every single decision he has made so far in this game. Even the bad ones. That's incredibly difficult to do as scum. I won't reveal my reasons for meta reading Yagami because I've got a great tell for him and I'm not about to waste it.

    TCP seems to be noticing all of the things I've been noticing. I have him as a good guy because I'm a good guy and we have similar thought processes so far.

    Star is probably a good guy because of how genuine he appears to be acting. I think as scum he'd have fewer posts and more censoring. I do sense he cares to win the game.

    I think my premier bad read right now is Happymeal. I don't have a particular reason why. Just a bad feeling.

    Here's the original last will I am replacing. Hopefully this will help you figure out Oberon's thought process.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grayswandir
    God reads on D1 - FrostByte, Marshmallow Marshall, TCP. Good luck
    If its not FB its Happymeal
    But unlikely. Based on how literally all of them voted together at EoD there’s a chance I may be wrong about one of the three lol. I don’t know how likely it is for all of them to be voting the same train xD its just so scummy lol
    REGARDLESS, lynch MM, TCP and FrostByte. Based on that eod i think FB is less likely to be scum than the other two so mb its one of the other inactives voting someone else, but 100% not Dark Magician lol
    Magoroth is Kenny and should never play FM again

  19. ISO #619

  20. ISO #620

    Re: S-FM Scum Town 13p

    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Magoroth View Post
    As promised, I'll be using Voss's great condorcet tool to help advise town on who we collectively think the wolves are. I'll be quoting post links, my interpretation/translation to inputs and posting outputs.

    Yagami, can you please sort those reads from villagery to wolfy?
    Sure Give Me A Few Moments

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  28. ISO #628

    Re: S-FM Scum Town 13p

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    Martian - Choose To Not Back 2 Of His Top Town Reads. 86.5% Informed


    Well, I guess you're partially not wrong in a few ways.

    I mean, I was informed in the sense that I knew MM was scum/mafia in my hosted game that just ended about 3 hours ago.

    I just couldn't speak about it (as that would be breaking rules regarding on-going games), but by comparing the two games I could tell MM was town and I came to that conclusion shortly after my last D1 readslist.

    He also just felt more silly tbh and more playful overall if I recall correctly.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  29. ISO #629

    Re: S-FM Scum Town 13p

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post


    Well, I guess you're partially not wrong in a few ways.

    I mean, I was informed in the sense that I knew MM was scum/mafia in my hosted game that just ended about 3 hours ago.

    I just couldn't speak about it (as that would be breaking rules regarding on-going games), but by comparing the two games I could tell MM was town and I came to that conclusion shortly after my last D1 readslist.

    He also just felt more silly tbh and more playful overall if I recall correctly.
    Thats A Fair Answer.

  30. ISO #630

  31. ISO #631

    Re: S-FM Scum Town 13p

    Look guys I have no idea what I'm even doing that's why I voted Kelli. I thought she was bad but I'm changing my mind and placing her as scum. I know I look towny right now but I swear that I'm scum. You gotta give me some time to figure out how to play, thanks. I'll come up with some reads soon.

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  33. ISO #633

    Re: S-FM Scum Town 13p

    Quote Originally Posted by TCP View Post
    That is true. I can only explain my own reasoning for voting DM, because I thought Mag or MM were villagers, and I had to reevaluate from Gray's claim. I decided that I thought there was a good enough chance for DM to be a wolf, because I didn't like his logic on his pushes so I decided to vote for him
    I meant to quote lights message with this one

  34. ISO #634

    Re: S-FM Scum Town 13p

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelli View Post
    Okay starting day two, I didn’t get back to my computer in time before the night phase unfortunately I had a few things come up. Here’s what I think I know, Gray/SB16 is confirmed villager or town at least for now I’ll re-eval that later if need be. I know I’m town, I am pretty confident that Happy is town considering we’re reading the game similarly and he feels to be solving the game more than I see other people doing. I also think that FrostByte is leaning town based on the response he had to someone’s push it felt genuine, I’d have to go back and find it but it rang a town bell for me. TCP has had a lot of interactions this game and seems to be coming at things from a town perspective, additionally since MM is confirmed town and DM being confirmed town either means that TCP just has way better reads than other players or he has TMI. I’m going to lean him slightly scummy but it could just be me reading his experience as scummy.

    Final read and then I’ll move on would be Martin. I’m unsure if this is aligned with his scum play or town play but he’s been pinging a lot of people out and asking them the state of the game and trying to generate content. Generally in vm this is towny however I don’t know if it’s the same in FM.

    This is where things get hazy, I don’t have strong reads but rather a few pairings. First would be Frost/Happy I think they are both town but in the event that i’m wrong they could be likely partners. Auwt/Light I have very limited information on both but Auwt made a comment in post #413 that basically was a half assed way of giving them a town read but no backing behind it. This read to me as a partner interaction. Finally Gray/SB16 cannot be with Mag, just the generalized hositility but also the complete opposite way of thinking. This to me says there’s one between them and considering that Gray/SB16 has claimed a PR that says that.

    Again, I don’t have a super strong grasp on what the hell is going on, but I’m trying to figure out partnerships and go from there.

    TLDR

    Villiagers
    Me
    Happy
    Frost
    Gray
    (Dead and confirmed; DM and MM)

    Wolves
    (Lightly) TCP
    Mag
    Okay I think this is arguably towny, I think she genuinely was observing happy meal and trying to figure him out not only by looking at happy but also looking for partner interactions such as #412.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  35. ISO #635

    Re: S-FM Scum Town 13p

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    What Do U Think Of The Rest Of The Reads I Made?
    I would agree with them aside from the one on Happy Meal.

    I think he has very low chances of being scum. He isn't a beaming tower of towniness, but he doesn't feel or look scummy to me right now.

    I'll look more into it later.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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    Re: S-FM Scum Town 13p

    I'm trying to figure out via these questions to either take the person I am asking, or the person I am asking about, out of my "possible wolf" pool.

    What I mean by that is that I got a pool of people that I don't think I would reevaluate as town soon, and I'm trying to get people out of that pool by asking:

    1. People in it about people out of it
    2. People out of it about people in it
    3. People in the pool about other people in the pool

    (I never will almost never ask about people outside of that pool about others outside of that pool)

    So that I can figure out who I think is most suspicious atm based on the responses I get. Right now that pool has 5 people in it, and I would like to knock it down to 3 if possible.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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  46. ISO #646

    Re: S-FM Scum Town 13p

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    I don't think I want to eliminate bakermir at all today btw.

    But I want to have more thoughts about him because I just went through a few ISO's and I can't find much thoughts about him.
    Well, maybe eliminate him but I feel like that's just really paranoid of me to do and has less grounding than my other current suspicions ;-;
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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  49. ISO #649

    Re: S-FM Scum Town 13p

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Same goes for @TCP

    actually
    I don't think he has done anything to make me think he is a villager. His only strong reads from my perspective is that he thought you were early scum, and then flipped the read to being very villigery on you, and he also has a town read on Happy which Ithinkis good. He also mentioned scum reads on me and MM, which are bad. I thought it was strange that after his push on auwt for reads he didn't really move on to a different area to vote or explain a scum read on him after auwt came on and gave his list. He just kinda left it. I thought that it could potentially be a more wolfy perspective because he might not have actually cared about auwts reads.

  50. ISO #650

    Re: S-FM Scum Town 13p

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    Honestly Feels Pretty Null. TBH. Nothing Really Stands Out In Either Direction Other Then Voting Awut Low Effort Posting. Much Like Some Of The Newer Players. But Nothing Really Stands Out As Directly Informed Nor Uninformed.
    Quote Originally Posted by TCP View Post
    I don't think he has done anything to make me think he is a villager. His only strong reads from my perspective is that he thought you were early scum, and then flipped the read to being very villigery on you, and he also has a town read on Happy which Ithinkis good. He also mentioned scum reads on me and MM, which are bad. I thought it was strange that after his push on auwt for reads he didn't really move on to a different area to vote or explain a scum read on him after auwt came on and gave his list. He just kinda left it. I thought that it could potentially be a more wolfy perspective because he might not have actually cared about auwts reads.
    Thanks a lot. Really appreciate that guys.

    I will wait on the other responses for a bit then I'll publish my suspicions, and whether these responses help support them or not.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

 

 

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