-vote Mike
-vote Mike
He does that in every game he plays. 0 effort, 0 explanation, then cries like a bitch when he gets yeeted. I'm honestly not even sure why @Dark Magician even signs up for games. Town or scum, he fucks town over constantly with this dumb shit.
To be clear, I'm not scumpainting him for this in game. I'm scumpainting him IRL. He ruins every game he's in and it's getting old.
Having one weird read (like the Helz one) isn't an horrible crime. Having only one horrible read and nothing else that's truly game-relevant is. Really, what truly is damning is the point in your last post, not even the first one. Maybe I'll find more during my reading.
It's not damning though. There's very little AI in this entire thread.
Day 1 isn't known to be chock full of AI and I'm not about to start making shit up to appease people.
What exactly have you contributed so far? I ISOed you and you've done a lot of babbling about RVS and who got us into and out of it but beyond that you're basically doing the same thing. Pot/Kettle etc
@Oberon you've come and gone twice and still haven't answered this btw. I see you.
Babbling about RVS and softreads that you could easily weasel your way out of.
That's literally all day 1 is about. But somehow I'm scummy for not putting in a ton of effort to actually contribute very little, like other people have done.
"This shit don't make no fuckin' sense" - Franklin, GTA V
Understood about RVS; already thought that way, but thanks for clarifying.
Fair point. We may simply have different ways to pressure, and yours isn't crazy either.
Tbh, I'm gonna ISO Frostbyte, because when I had left the thread, he had 11 posts, and now he has double my post count, so my vote may be uneducated
I'm not going to argue against you on the point that D1 doesn't have a ton of AI things. But it's up to us to make things AI. The idea behind RVS is to make actual positions emerge from chaotic randomness. Same goes for all of D1 in most cases.
- getting inactives to participate
- getting reads
- moving the game forward in general
(Which should in turn allow people to read me based on how I do that, but that's up to them and not to me)
Those are my goals, and I believe I didn't do too bad at them. Now, I can't say about you yet because I need to ISO you, but I'll address you once it's done.
Not attempting to get any reads and not posting anything that makes us able to read you either contributed to the exact game state you were denouncing. You aren't guilty of that anymore, though.
I like this. Much more true about Frinckles since he didn't explain his reads, but the intervention here is valid and arguably pro-town (not letting people look towny for bogus lists and forcing them to explain).
Mike is top town because of his early interaction with Helz (page 2, back in the time of his supposed "neutral perspective slip") and because of his meta (he totally fits his town meta right now). No scumtells detected from him yet.
And following up on this reinforces my liking of the last quote.
[QUOTE=FrostByte;907346] She does that all the time, so the answer would be "to respect her town meta", and that's NAI at this point. I fundamentally agree, but if she weren't doing this, you'd see people calling her out for not having claimed citizen yet, so it's understandable.
Baseless and false, you suck at reading me :P
(And yes, this is quite literally me saying "OMGUS", but you're literally not giving anything, and I've been completely honest this game so no u)
We have 3 hours left. I'm gonna eat some breakfast
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So I'm naturally fake...
Agreed on the first sentence. There was no "infatuation" with anything though, that's a lie, and "focus" (as you said in your next post) isn't exactly bad when you haven't answered the question. The last sentence is bad and actually is a dishonest deflection, @Frinckles .
Nah, having individual reads that don't fit with associative reads happens all the time and is absolutely not scummy lol, the world doesn't just conform to what we'd want it to be when we're scumhunting. "Infatuation" was bullshit though.
Tunneling implies, at least in my book, that you actually believe the other is scum. Does that imply you think he's town, Frost?
Uhuhuhuh, guess not lol. Maybe a bit inconsistent here.
There's a difference between saying your reads are valid from a town PoV and saying they're good. They're not good if you don't think they can be accurate. The only actual way for what you say to be logical is if you thought one of us was scum and the other was neutral, which you aren't saying and definetly would say if you thought so. I'm not buying this.
Yeah tbh-vote Frinckles
Frostbyte's push seems honest here. I don't know if it's right, but it's honest. The part about it being right or wrong belongs to Frinckles now.
Rather, you're caught up MM?
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This looks an awful lot like TvT both thinking the other side is wrong and that theirs is righteous. If I had to pick one of them to be scum now, it'd be Frinckles (Frostbyte actually is a townlean for me now, due to the honesty of his push, while Frinckles is... probably town thinking he's being attacked for the wrong reasons, but it could always be scum thinking they're being attacked for the wrong reasons), but there are relatively significant chances both are town.
DM is looking more and more PoE-bad. I'm gonna keep my vote on Frinckles to keep it useful and because I don't want to see Frostbyte and even less Mike lynched now, but I'm gonna ISO DM and see if there's anything that's remotely interesting.
Looking through the thread, and I've decided y'all need a bit more conviction. There was a time when we could have switched trains to someone like Mike. That time is not now. I would have been fine adding Oberon to the yeet pool, and with DM showing up without giving us much, I would perhaps have been fine with him too. Right now, it's Frinckles or FrostByte.
Of the two, I *definitely* want FrostByte. He's not even trying get a read on the entire game right now, he's just pushing the most viable counter-train. Frinckles' wavering makes much more sense from a town perspective.
If scum!Frostbyte wanted to push a viable countertrain, he'd be posting reads, try to look useful, and completely demolish town!DM because he's such an easy lynch, I believe. Obviously, this falls apart if DM is scum with Frostbyte, but I'd much rather simply lynch DM in such a situation (that being said, I still have to read what he said and I'm gonna do that quick before I have to leave)
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Oh well, this was quick. He said literally NOTHING (stuff about recieving his rolecard and saying he's citizen or switcher...) and left an unexplained vote on my top town read, Mike.
-vote Dark Magician
We ain't taking this to late game.
DM. Oberon did nothing amazing either, and I'm starting to think that his early attack about "PR hunting" means nothing if he doesn't do anything afterwards (his vote on Frost is literally there for the sake of being placed because "we need to push if we want to find scum" and because "he likes the people on the train"...) I do realize that there is someone I put in my "probably town" list that's not actually town since we have 3 non-towns, but that's how my reads are.
Ahh yes, because the point is to get a lynch at all costs (in a mandatory D1 lynch game), not to actually find who's scum, right? :P
This isn't a pro-town mindset.
He has been under significant pressure, especially since there was an early consensus about lynching the inactives.
And I suggest we do exactly that.
I don't townread everyone, I just don't like the current trains. I said why. If you don't like it, then reevaluate, and if you still don't like it, then stick to them or even push to lynch me lol, but don't act like it's a tragedy to go against the consensus in a mandatory lynch day, because that's bullshit.
I haven't even seen it, so to be fair, the idea comes from me even though I wasn't the first one to say it :P.
(Or more accurately, it comes from Helz who very wisely suggested that we lynch in the inactive pool today, WHICH @MattZed HAD AGREED ON BY THE WAY.)
I got it. I just agreed when what you ment. It made sence. But MM open saying that as scum would be odd. I have noticed one of the reasons MM gets mislynched a lot as town is becise he will be honest to the point of makeing himself look scummy.
I don’t have him as town but I don’t have him as scum. I hacc v e him more null. He can go eather way. He always is so scummy as town and so townie as scum. I know this may not make sence to you but it is how I read MM.
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He knew the game had started when he left a completely unexplained vote on Mike (literally just -vote mike) as his only game-relevant post after having made 13 useless posts. And I already said I don't like the Frinckles/Frostbyte/Mike trains anymore. If I think they're likely town (especially frostbyte), how in the world are they the best lynches????
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And very very soon, I'm going to 100 % not suspiciously vanish for the rest of the day because I can't stay lol, so if you have stuff to ask me, it's now or never. And my vote will be on DM.
If you REALLY are super zealous on getting a lynch between Frinckles and Frostbyte, I support a Frinckles lynch more than a Frostbyte one because I townread Frostbyte with medium force, while Frinckles is more of a mild/unsure townread.
Wow now the rng is between me and DM roflol.
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