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  1. ISO #551

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    -vote Renegade


    I’m going to preface this vote with the fact that this is on one hour of playing the game and it’s a gut read that I have basically 0 faith in.

    I do have another motive for placing this vote which may come into play later which is why I’m placing it here.
    Welcome SB. I see you are voting me, that's fine.

    I must sleep now, will respond to this all in the morn.

  2. ISO #552

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    tbh, I'm deeply suspicious of the fact that DM's train only has two people on it. @Auwt , @yzb25 , @Frinckles , do you *really* townread this man?
    To be fair DM is playing the same way as he used to in each of his game.
    I don't see his agenda coming from a scum.
    Looking at it, he is the only one proposing a solve,
    And even if I don't fully agree with this solve, I think there should be a part of truth in what he said.

    @MattZed
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  3. ISO #553

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Anyways, I suspect:

    Auwt
    Mesk514
    Frinckles

    Not that I think they are indeed scummy, but I do feel suspicious of them // they're on my radar.

    Also I need to look into Yzb25 more tbh.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Nice.
    Your scum sided as you listed all except for the scum.
    I actually believe there is at least 1 scum between Mesk and Frinckles.
    Those are my current suspections.
    You can have fun looking yzb or me but I don't think there will be much interest of doing it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  4. ISO #554

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Just before I say goodbye.

    MM/Matt/Mesk/Rene

    Only within there and it’s instant win.
    If game still continues, probably look at Frinckles.
    I indeed agree with this though.
    The MM/Matt situation does need a solve somehow.
    Mesk and Frinckles in first scum positions
    A bit unsure about Renegade.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  5. ISO #555

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    -vote Marshmallow Marshall


    I'ma leaving this here. I feel like there's a scum in marsh/matt and one is pocketing the other. Matt had some bleeding town moments that give me pause for him rn. So I'ma see what happens if I do dis
    Could you quote exactly the reasons that make you lean toward MM?
    I really can't find much that could enlighten this situation
    Although, I also believe there should be a scum between them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  6. ISO #556

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    So auwt doesn't exist in the game? Cute
    Drag the attention away pshhhhh.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  7. ISO #557

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    I said your scum I gave why. I’m not casing it.
    I’m not going to bother giving that kind of effort.
    I’m not going to fight with you.
    I don’t give a shit.
    Well you see, when I look at this kind of post...
    I really don't believe a scum would ever say this.
    Could be wrong about this, but DM is looking pretty townie to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  8. ISO #558

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    Bruh, why are you only voting me for pressuring you instead of voting DM for accusing you of being the last scum with almost no basis? (How in the world DM is putting Mesk on a scumteam with me instead of filling in Auwt with the PoE...)
    Wait what?
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  9. ISO #559

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I fully support this course of action and agree with the check, either on Stealth or on Mesk.
    And yea there's nothing extremely conclusive, but Stealth already makes more sense (both logic-wise and town-PoV-wise) than his previous slot owner, so... let's give it a run lol.
    As I'm seeing this, checking Stealthbomber doesn't make much sense, as he's just replaced DM who is an almost lock town imo.
    Now I can't control tonight Martin's action so I guess uh.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  10. ISO #560

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Good morning sunshines
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  11. ISO #561

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Completely contradictory to what I said earlier this post isn’t good because renegade voting DM there looked really forced.

    I’m going to review renegade again because he always looks scummy as fuck to me but I’m getting really bad vibes from him
    Yay more veteran fm player meta expectations bullshite!

  12. ISO #562

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    I typically don’t play the replacement card but this is seriously a game where it’s applicable. You can go back and find any other game where DM has played citizen and it’s always him bitching for all of D1 and then getting lynched.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    Yeah, you get to live at least one more day. This is exactly the sort of response I'd expect if someone replaced into DM's slot and was actually town.
    Hmm I believe there is a word for this...

  13. ISO #563

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Wait what?
    DM's thought process seemed to be this:

    1. Matt and MM share a night chat, and AT LEAST Matt is Illuminati

    2. Frinckles and Renegade share a night chat AND Renegade is the one in the Illuminati but Frinckles isn't

    3. yzb is town and is thus removed from the picture

    That's how I think he built his scenarios. For the scenarios where the above assumptions didn't fill in the entire Illuminati, he figured Mesk was the last Illuminati. But he didn't mention why it had to be Mesk instead of you, the other person he hadn't cleared. (this was not the only part of his logic I couldn't follow)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

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  15. ISO #565

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Nah DMs play makes sense if you view it from someone who is incredibly tilted.

    1. Playing his least favorite role in the game by a wide margin
    2. Setup has a 50% chance to not have accurate flips (remember Magellan?)
    3. Getting incorrectly pushed as cit
    4. Nobody agrees with his reads or sees what he sees

    I don’t agree with what he said and understand why he was being scumread but from the POV of knowing he was a citizen (even before I officially learned his role I knew he would be one since he was replacing out) his actions, although flawed, still make sense.
    This was one of the first games where DM was making sense to me, it had just been too early for me to slap a vote down. Then he started raving about me being mafia with x y or z.
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  16. ISO #566

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    DM's thought process seemed to be this:

    1. Matt and MM share a night chat, and AT LEAST Matt is Illuminati

    2. Frinckles and Renegade share a night chat AND Renegade is the one in the Illuminati but Frinckles isn't

    3. yzb is town and is thus removed from the picture

    That's how I think he built his scenarios. For the scenarios where the above assumptions didn't fill in the entire Illuminati, he figured Mesk was the last Illuminati. But he didn't mention why it had to be Mesk instead of you, the other person he hadn't cleared. (this was not the only part of his logic I couldn't follow)
    He did clear me as a "town read" though.
    So I guess all in all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  17. ISO #567

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    This was one of the first games where DM was making sense to me, it had just been too early for me to slap a vote down. Then he started raving about me being mafia with x y or z.
    There’s definitely a connection between Matt and MM but I’m not sure if it’s just bias or if it’s scum. I’m going to wait for MM to come back on before I go down that rabbit hole.
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    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

  18. ISO #568

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    👀 sup
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  19. ISO #569

  20. ISO #570

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    I actually believe there is at least 1 scum between Mesk and Frinckles.
    Those are my current suspections.
    You can have fun looking yzb or me but I don't think there will be much interest of doing it.
    nvm I'm bad at scrolling up.

    Auwt, why aren't you voting either of them?
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

  21. ISO #571

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    I'm pretty sure EoD is when I get off work but I'm aroundish
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  22. ISO #572

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    I'm pretty sure EoD is when I get off work but I'm aroundish
    You have to work on a Satuday?

    Mesk, humor me this: If you were magically told MM and I aren't scum, who would you be going after right now?
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

  23. ISO #573

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    We're less than 7 hours to EoD. As far as I see, we only have about 3 options:

    1. Yeet SB anyways because his slot was looking incredibly scummy before
    2. Random/policy yeet someone
    3. No yeet


    I'm honestly torn between all three, but I'm leaning toward the first one. I don't think any amount of pressure is going to make someone look as scummy as DM was. There's no point in going after someone for being scummy if we're just going to ignore DM's slot. If Martin's not checking SB, then we're not going to get any information on him and still have this problem to resolve tomorrow.

    If there is an Illuminati, we might not be able to afford to misyeet today. (setups E/F could give Illuminati the ability to instahammer D2 by revealing their Mayor) But we *could* afford to no-yeet. It just means, assuming the Mafia NK doesn't hit Illuminati, we're in a 5v3 tomorrow and need to unanimously vote to yeet Illuminati. If we no-yeet today, I would 100% yeet anyone who turns up as Illuminati to Martin.

    If there isn't an Illuminati, a misyeet today probably leaves us 4v2v1 tomorrow as opposed to 5v2v1. I'd personally prefer to have two opportunities to yeet Mafia (D1 and D2) as opposed to having to rely on Martin recanting and townsiding.

    But then again, my gut answer to "why didn't DM get more votes?" is that he's in an Illuminati and his partners weren't voting him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

  24. ISO #574

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    No yeet only makes sense if we think there's an Illuminati AND SB isn't in it. I actually find this hard to believe. So it's between yeeting SB and going for a random/policy yeet.

    Yeah, I'm going with SB. The only way this can come back to kill us is if there's an Illuminati and SB's not in it.

    -vote Stealthbomber16


    To repeat the case on DM/SB one last time: DM hasn't made sense, he didn't use his top-poster status to steer town productively, his reads make no sense, everything he says is really just to back up what he said in his third post (that me and MM are scum together), and he's discredited me, MM, and Renegade several times.

    If you want more details on any of the above, just look through my posts. I've spelled out each of these in more detail at least once.

    If we're in setup A/D, a no-yeet is just throwing away a chance to yeet mafia. If we're in B/C/E/F, we're in trouble only if we yeet non-Illuminati. I know I'm not Illuminati, and I know Martin isn't. Of the 7 of you left, THREE would be Illuminati. There's just no way DM/SB isn't one of them if that's the case.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

  25. ISO #575

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    nvm I'm bad at scrolling up.

    Auwt, why aren't you voting either of them?
    I guess even if I do vote either of them, the outcome would still be the same.
    Isn't the voting system majority only ?
    I honestly don't believe we are going to reach a majority whatsoever.

    Joining either a Frinckles or Mesk train seems to be the best option imo.
    Mesk being lynched seems to be an utopia according to the current votes.
    I will leave that here
    -vote Frinckles

    And see how this is gonna play out.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  26. ISO #576

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    I'm off for now. I will *probably* be back in time for EoD, but if I'm not, I completely stand by yeeting SB. Unless SB has secretly been *mayor* this whole time, I don't think there's anything that could happen in the next 6 hours that could convince me there's a better target.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

  27. ISO #577

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    I'm off for now. I will *probably* be back in time for EoD, but if I'm not, I completely stand by yeeting SB. Unless SB has secretly been *mayor* this whole time, I don't think there's anything that could happen in the next 6 hours that could convince me there's a better target.
    Actually, I would 100% yeet SB if he revealed as mayor. A town mayor knows for a fact we're in setup D. DM spent waaaaaay too much time actively speculating that there's an Illuminati to be a town mayor.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

  28. ISO #578

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    You have to work on a Satuday?

    Mesk, humor me this: If you were magically told MM and I aren't scum, who would you be going after right now?
    I work evening wednesday-friday and mornings on the weekend.
    If somehow feedback came back that you and MM weren't scum or illuminati, I would start looking more into Auwt and maybe sheep stealth with renegade
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    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  29. ISO #579

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    Actually, I would 100% yeet SB if he revealed as mayor. A town mayor knows for a fact we're in setup D. DM spent waaaaaay too much time actively speculating that there's an Illuminati to be a town mayor.
    Well shit I guess I can't talk about mayors at all in a single post or I'm illuminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Also want to point out that if we have Illuminati, Mayor is always scum.
    If Mason spawn instead of Mayor then it’s either 1 or both of them.
    So if one Mason knows they aren’t Illuminati they always put their buddy.
    Although it could be a strat for Mason Illuminati as well, one could bus the other like that.
    Or they could just not claim Masons at all but if they go that route then everyone would just know Mason’s are the scum.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  30. ISO #580

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Well shit I guess I can't talk about mayors at all in a single post or I'm illuminati
    Well, I misread that, but still I think you're tunneling too much.

    If he's mayor he could've just revealed now and pressed his vote.

    He's still v as a slot.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    Actually, I would 100% yeet SB if he revealed as mayor. A town mayor knows for a fact we're in setup D. DM spent waaaaaay too much time actively speculating that there's an Illuminati to be a town mayor.
    This is irrelevant discussion because I’m not mayor. I’m citizen.
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    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    If you wanted an explanation as to why, DM's slot (and SB16's play subsequently) dont seem scummy. Martin is basically doing his thing and I am once again believing Mesk.
    You won't regret it this time I promise
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    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Why are you not calling out mattzed who used the exact phrase “you get to live one more day” to describe his read on me today? Even in a case of confirmation bias, why overlook it when MZ does it but not when Mesk does it?

    You can’t say you missed it or any excuse like that. You quoted the post where he said it in #529. The two players have the exact same circumstantial read on me right now but you find one scummy for the read and you don’t find the other one scummy for the read.
    Because there's a major difference: Mattzed actually gave a relatable reasoning based on Stealth's actions, invokes gut, partially relies on Martin's check, and most importantly, keeps an healthy doubt.

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    I... instinctively trust that SB is telling the truth. I like MM's test, but then again I recall a pre-retirement game where scum won because someone had a very specific roleclaim on the spot. (@Mesk514, I think we were in that game, and that scum may have been you)


    As much as I had a hard scumread on DM, I think the best play at this point is to have Martin check Stealth tonight. I was suspecting DM being more likely Illuminati than Mafia, and I'd really like to find out. We can resolve his slot D2.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    Yeah, you get to live at least one more day. This is exactly the sort of response I'd expect if someone replaced into DM's slot and was actually town.

    If Martin gets an Illuminati check on you, prepare to defend your ass.
    Meanwhile, Mesk is doing... this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    Stealth, I will be home in a few if you wanna have a conversation
    "If you wanna have a conversation"
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    I'm here. hello
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    are you a real citizen?
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    I’ve already reinforced this claim earlier. Yes. I’m a citizen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    I mean, if he is... then there's no reason to vote him, duh
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    well there ya go, no reason to vote ya. good convo
    -vote MattZed
    Literally no inquiries whatsoever, just "well if he claims citizen he's instantly good". Honestly, I wonder how you even could see both as similar lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  45. ISO #595

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    I actually believe there is at least 1 scum between Mesk and Frinckles.
    Those are my current suspections.
    You can have fun looking yzb or me but I don't think there will be much interest of doing it.
    I completely agree with this. It's where I'm looking atm.
    And I somewhat agree with this too.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  46. ISO #596

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Could you quote exactly the reasons that make you lean toward MM?
    I really can't find much that could enlighten this situation
    Although, I also believe there should be a scum between them.
    Tbh, I don't see where Mattzed is scummy. He could be scum trying to take a town leader spot, but he also could be town trying to take a town leader spot. Since he hasn't engaged in scumpainting or similar things and since I can buy his reasonings, I'd say there's no reason to call him scum atm. It's not to exclude, but it's not like being pro-town is scummy per se.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  47. ISO #597

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Because there's a major difference: Mattzed actually gave a relatable reasoning based on Stealth's actions, invokes gut, partially relies on Martin's check, and most importantly, keeps an healthy doubt.





    Meanwhile, Mesk is doing... this.

    "If you wanna have a conversation"









    Literally no inquiries whatsoever, just "well if he claims citizen he's instantly good". Honestly, I wonder how you even could see both as similar lol.
    Lmfao theres no rule that says i must look into stealth just cause he subbed in, he confirmed what DM claimed, DM appeared to be took to me so I don't see why I must put stealth under the microscope
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  48. ISO #598

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Because there's a major difference: Mattzed actually gave a relatable reasoning based on Stealth's actions, invokes gut, partially relies on Martin's check, and most importantly, keeps an healthy doubt.





    Meanwhile, Mesk is doing... this.

    "If you wanna have a conversation"









    Literally no inquiries whatsoever, just "well if he claims citizen he's instantly good". Honestly, I wonder how you even could see both as similar lol.
    Mesk can't show skepticism to anyone else's cit claim otherwise she brings scrutiny upon herself.

    It is tiring. Willing to lunch her today.

  49. ISO #599

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    Lmfao theres no rule that says i must look into stealth just cause he subbed in, he confirmed what DM claimed, DM appeared to be took to me so I don't see why I must put stealth under the microscope
    That doesn't erase the fact you gave him a free pass over a literal D1 cit claim and faked the willingness to have a convo with him lol. Also, this post was in response to @Stealthbomber16 saying you did like what Mattzed did when it came to reading him, which is utterly wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  50. ISO #600

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    That doesn't erase the fact you gave him a free pass over a literal D1 cit claim and faked the willingness to have a convo with him lol. Also, this post was in response to @Stealthbomber16 saying you did like what Mattzed did when it came to reading him, which is utterly wrong.
    She has to give him a free pass, that's what she wants from everyone for the same thing.

 

 

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