★ S-FM 323 (Ladder): Silent(er) Night (14P) ★

[Mike]

Helzs you are a condundrum. I do not know what to think about you. one second you are so town next you are scummy. I agree with the push on number 2 That is protown. But that last line makes me feel you are creating wifom for future lynches.

The delima I am having is that can be made from Town helz or mafia helz. Hard to decide which it is. This is why you are not in my town core anymore.

1 are you mafia?
2 are you town trying to be a little scummy so you are not night killed?

This is the delima I am trying to figure out on you. I do not want you lynched today.

People I would be ok with lynching today are Renegade, Number 2, maybe Oberon? I am not wanting to lynch varcron anymore. not pushing on Frostbyte do to knowing is MIA in RL.

Everyone else I would not want a lynch on.

People are scumreading me because they are saying my reads are odd. Remember when I am mafia I make alot more since. since I have all the info. I am uninformed so I am trying to get reads from anything I can.

auwt, superjack, blink, Helz, Baker, Light, Varcron all I have not seen and agenda being pushed.

Correction I have not seen them push any agenda making me town lean them

[Mike]

I don't really want to go to fast.
I'm indeed not scumreading you, and I wouldn't want you to be voted off today either.
However I still struggle a bit to know if you TRULY are town.
Our reads are reflecting and somehow similar, that's a fact though.

I am town but off chance I was not town I would be Neutral meaning town aligned.

[Auwt]

The way I'm seeing this game atm :

blinkskater and Light_Yagami look quite townies.
bakermir is leaning town.
Renegade, Varcron, PQR null reads.
Mike is leaning neutral [as opinion and as role : ) ]
Frostbyte, Helz, Oberon are leaning scum.
SuperJack looks quite scum.

I forgot Numbertwo.
I would put them between null read and leaning scum.

[Auwt]

I am town but off chance I was not town I would be Neutral meaning town aligned.

Well neutral is neutral.
It could even be a 4th maf honestly.

[Light_Yagami]

Id vote pretty much anyone at this point doesn't really matter to me. I don't strongly town read anyone aside from PQR. I'll say again I don't mind killing the people who aren't playing the game could be 1 or 2 scums there.

I Find It Interesting That You Find My Top Scum Read As Your Town Read.. Yet Nobody Else Strikes You As Town.. Quite Interesting Indeed..

[PQRnHack]

I Find It Interesting That You Find My Top Scum Read As Your Town Read.. Yet Nobody Else Strikes You As Town.. Quite Interesting Indeed..

I read both you, LY, and BS as town. And given your opposing reads on me, it is apparent to me that one of you (name starts with L) is wrong.

[Helz]

Going for the most obvious misslynch and blindly assumes that light is town for posting a picture of light, which light claims to be a roleclaim. hmm

A little sensitive to pressure are we?

I will flat out advocate for your lynch if you push to eliminate the the un-cc'd TPR claim. If you don't believe him you could push him to reveal his N1 peeks or some shit but there is no reason not to give that slot a pass as things stand now.

[Helz]

Helzs you are a condundrum. I do not know what to think about you. one second you are so town next you are scummy. I agree with the push on number 2 That is protown. But that last line makes me feel you are creating wifom for future lynches.

If the scum show a continued pattern of eliminating leaders and a 1 'town looking' leader is left untouched they should be examined again for a potential power-wolf play.

More than once as scum I have killed all the vocal town and lead the town to their destruction; and I have seen other do it many times. At a glance even fighting my nature to not analyze I feel decent about you and SJ but that MM kill looks to me like scum is gona favor the skilled/vocal townies.

[Numbertwo]

A little sensitive to pressure are we?

I will flat out advocate for your lynch if you push to eliminate the the un-cc'd TPR claim. If you don't believe him you could push him to reveal his N1 peeks or some shit but there is no reason not to give that slot a pass as things stand now.

Im not saying we should lynch Light, im just questioning why you are blindly assuming TPR claiming on the first post makes someone confirmed town? If you were scum it would be easy for you to know if he is town or not obviously..

Why would anyone even CC that? you are just baiting for reveals

[Renegade]

People I'm not interested in voting today: Varcron, Light Yagima.

Everyone else is fair game from my perspective.

[Helz]

Im not saying we should lynch Light, im just questioning why you are blindly assuming TPR claiming on the first post makes someone confirmed town? If you were scum it would be easy for you to know if he is town or not obviously..

Why would anyone even CC that? you are just baiting for reveals

I am not saying that you are. I am saying if you do I will advocate for your lynch.
Its not an assumption. He flat out said his claim was in his first post and the role he was signing is absolutely blatant. I consider that a TPR claim given there is no scum inverse of that role. But 'confirmed town' no. Just not a slot I would be willing to entertain a conversation about lynching and I do generally expect the same out of others.

[Light_Yagami]

I read both you, LY, and BS as town. And given your opposing reads on me, it is apparent to me that one of you (name starts with L) is wrong.

Not Gonna Lie Ive Been Wrong Before.. But Your Day 1 Was Very Sloppy.. Just Screamed Scum To Me..

[Light_Yagami]

Im not saying we should lynch Light, im just questioning why you are blindly assuming TPR claiming on the first post makes someone confirmed town? If you were scum it would be easy for you to know if he is town or not obviously..

Why would anyone even CC that? you are just baiting for reveals

There Was More Then One Post Ive Made Insinuating That Being My Role. However If You Press X For Doubt.. Id Have No Problem Dying. For Even If I Die My LW Is Very Detailed With My Reads And Such.. Kinda Playing This One Close To My Chest..

[Helz]

There Was More Then One Post Ive Made Insinuating That Being My Role. However If You Press X For Doubt.. Id Have No Problem Dying. For Even If I Die My LW Is Very Detailed With My Reads And Such.. Kinda Playing This One Close To My Chest..

Keep in mind they have a confirmed janitor. If our protective dies you should not depend on that LW revealing your peeks

[Light_Yagami]

Keep in mind they have a confirmed janitor. If our protective dies you should not depend on that LW revealing your peeks

Im Aware Of That They Also Have A Confirmed Consort. So Odds Of Me Finding Anything At This Point Are Almost Zero. Why Kill Me When They Can Just Role Block Me Till End Of Game

[Mike]

Im Aware Of That They Also Have A Confirmed Consort. So Odds Of Me Finding Anything At This Point Are Almost Zero. Why Kill Me When They Can Just Role Block Me Till End Of Game

This is why we tell you every game to STOP Claiming your PR Day 1.

[Mike]

This is why we tell you every game to STOP Claiming your PR Day 1.

To elaborate before some one twists what I am saying. I am talking about light any times he roles PR he Claims in his first post

[Light_Yagami]

This is why we tell you every game to STOP Claiming your PR Day 1.

Trust Me Mike This Is All According To Plan..

[Mike]

Trust Me Mike This Is All According To Plan..

[Mike]

Well Light you dont get it.
Lets say best case we lynch the consort today. They just kill you tonight and we lose our TIR. There is no world where it is smart to Claim PR day 1 EVER. Sorry I am little pissed because you waisted a valuable role for town.

[blinkskater]

Light could be scum here it's not that crazy

[Mike]

Light could be scum here it's not that crazy

no offence to light but I dont see it. He is not that big brained.

[Helz]

Light could be scum here it's not that crazy

Possible, But that is a conversation for the late game. 0 chance of him being the lynch..

...which is about to happen in an hour or two so people should think about casting their EOD bets

[blinkskater]

I'm content with where my votes at.

[Light_Yagami]

Well Light you dont get it.
Lets say best case we lynch the consort today. They just kill you tonight and we lose our TIR. There is no world where it is smart to Claim PR day 1 EVER. Sorry I am little pissed because you waisted a valuable role for town.

Clearly You Missed Something This Game Mike..

[Light_Yagami]

Light could be scum here it's not that crazy

Well One Thing I Can Promise You Is.. That Im Not Scum..

[PQRnHack]

@blinkskater do we stay on Varcron or switch? hmm With so few votes (1-2 per person), I am fearful of mafia saving their own and putting another 1-2 votes on a random townie.

[Mike]

Clearly You Missed Something This Game Mike..

if i did fine but let it drop for now light best discussed tomorrow less info mafia has the better.

[blinkskater]

Possible, But that is a conversation for the late game. 0 chance of him being the lynch..

...which is about to happen in an hour or two so people should think about casting their EOD bets

Yeah i wouldn't even suggest it as a lynch right now, i'm just not digging everyone reading light town for doing what he always does

[Light_Yagami]

Has Frost Even Commented Today?

[Mike]

@blinkskater do we stay on Varcron or switch? hmm With so few votes (1-2 per person), I am fearful of mafia saving their own and putting another 1-2 votes on a random townie.

ohhh interesting

-vote Varcron

This looks like PQR has info we dont.

[blinkskater]

@blinkskater do we stay on Varcron or switch? hmm With so few votes (1-2 per person), I am fearful of mafia saving their own and putting another 1-2 votes on a random townie.

Not sure man we could implore others to vote with us here, mafia saving their own isn't a big deal they do it all the time

[PQRnHack]

Has Frost Even Commented Today?

Hasnt since march 7th... AFK Meta OP
Someone did say that he is away IRL, not sure if speculation or insider knowledge

[Mike]

Hasnt since march 7th... AFK Meta OP
Someone did say that he is away IRL, not sure if speculation or insider knowledge

I said that dude to having to replace him somewhere else.

[blinkskater]

Mike is playing weird too. His play doesn't really make sense to me.

[Mike]

PQR you are confident Varcron is MAfia?

[Mike]

@PQRnHack are you confident Varcron is MAfia?

[PQRnHack]

PQR you are confident Varcron is MAfia?

No, I am not. What I am confident in is that if we are too passive, then Mafia can pile up some votes (though I recognize that may also help expose them; but they can disguise this by piling onto someone that already has a vote from a town misread).
If Varcron is non-Mafia, then I am surprised that more votes haven't come from Mafia to seal the deal. But who knows, when 1-2 folks are not even here today.

[Mike]

I like this answer. This is so bloody town.

[Mike]

wow this game is dead if I am top poster and I am not even on that much
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/misc....posted&t=48338)

[PQRnHack]

I like this answer. This is so bloody town.

The irony is that you could be Maf happily joining the Varcron vote to avoid drawing attention to other candidates like Numbertwo. The games, the games...

[blinkskater]

The irony is that you could be Maf happily joining the Varcron vote to avoid drawing attention to other candidates like Numbertwo. The games, the games...

True story

[Helz]

I may just keep my vote where it is.

Although we are all uninformed and have little to go on I feel more comfortable sheeping Light given he is probable town which prevents the target from being chosen by Mafia.
That and he showed up quick at little pressure and contributed nothing other than 'I am LHF and you might be scum'

[blinkskater]

Well maybe ill catch yall tomorrow maybe not. Peace out girl scouts. If i die read my LW please.

[blinkskater]

For the record I don't think #2 is mafia.
Bye.

[PQRnHack]

What's LHF?

[bakermir]

ohhh interesting

-vote Varcron

This looks like PQR has info we dont.

we shouldn't vote out varcron. what is the reason?

[Helz]

What's LHF?

Low hanging fruit.
Its saying a player is an easy lynch

[Light_Yagami]

Id Like To See A Doctor On Blink That Would Be Great. Thanks.

[Helz]

we shouldn't vote out varcron. what is the reason?

Who would you prefer? We have little reasoning on any player

Numbertwo (2 [L-5]):
Light_Yagami, Helz
Varcron (3 [L-4]):
PQRnHack, blinkskater, Mike
SuperJack (1 [L-6]):
Auwt
FrostByte (1 [L-6]):
SuperJack
Helz (1 [L-6]):
Numbertwo