S-FM 213: Wheels On The Bus

[purebe]

ok nevermind their back

[purebe]

wait wtf now there's 3 members and 1 guest but it only shows me and never unlucky reading, wtf is going on?

[BananaCucho]

And I think your scumread on unknown isn't any stronger than the scumreads on Orpz. If pod is scum and we get a mislynch today and then even if we get unknown (if he's scum) tomorrow we're still fucked.

If somehow Unknown is town (I highly doubt it), then yeah we lose no matter what because me vs him would be TvT and that ends in a loss no matter what.

Lynching POD is literally just a shot in the dark. It would literally be a policy lynch because he always play a like this. There is nothing alignment indicative from him because he is useless no matter what. Its literally a coin flip as to whether he flips town or scum. 2 policy lynches leaves us with 1 mislynch left if he flips town which is why I only pushed one.

From Orpz literally the only thing he did that bothered me was buddying me and that's not enough for me to want to lynch him. I only want to lynch Unknown. And for that to happen I have to die.

[BananaCucho]

wait wtf now there's 3 members and 1 guest but it only shows me and never unlucky reading, wtf is going on?

I'm an invisible member

Don't rely on that, it only always leads to mislynches

[Unknown1234]

Making a Quick appearance before sleep.

[Unknown1234]

I gave my reasoning in day one and at the start of this day.

Unknown white knighted Grylander IMO and was willing to let the day go no lynch and let me keep.going after Grylander which only benefits scum.

Unknown has fallen for the same thing scum fall for all the time - the lowest hanging fruit (me). Unknown thought me vs Grylander was TrY and changed their mind when I voted them and decided to go after me since I was seen as am easy lynch today.

Also Unknown had Orpz as their highest scum read and didn't want day 1 to end with any other lynch, but then just went after POD day 2, which is the other low hanging fruit.

Unknown made a snarky comment towards me near the end of day 1 "what are you going to PL POD next?" to which I responded that I was only going to go after Grylander this game and adopt a 1 PL per game policy from here on out

I swear what game are you guys even reading?

Hammer me and then vote Unknown next.

I didn't white knight, and I stated clearly why I Town-read him. There was 0 doubt in my mind that Gyrlander was town and I wasn't going to support that lynch. That post was way too sincere and was one of my stronger points.

You are not low-hanging fruit so don't go there. You convinced people to follow you on a PL, and when even though most would know it was going to be a lynch on a town, you then decide to provide shit and biased reasoning on me as an attempt to get another lynch going. Only when I started pushing you was when you wernt a strong town read so you wernt low fruit. I also explained my thoughts on POD and that he played the same way he did in MW2. Lurk, post once or twice to vote and then leave. Not to mention he felt no reason to comment on putting someone at L-1 and has yet to return. It was completely justified.

Orpz is not a concern to me. This isn't great reasoning but I discovered through reading that how Orpz plays is complete trolling and filled with not caring. He was way too out there and I doubt all the scummy shot he did would have come from a scum especially since I know he doesn't suck.

What does this post have to do with me being scum? It was a stupid lunch and I don't care if a point had to be proven, you didn't give him a chance to try and play better but instead discouraged him entirely.

Purebe, vote whenever but know that Banana is way too confident in thinking that I'm scum that it seems completely fake. She is also very manipulative so the longer you wait I would watch her.

[Unknown1234]

If somehow Unknown is town (I highly doubt it), then yeah we lose no matter what because me vs him would be TvT and that ends in a loss no matter what.

Lynching POD is literally just a shot in the dark. It would literally be a policy lynch because he always play a like this. There is nothing alignment indicative from him because he is useless no matter what. Its literally a coin flip as to whether he flips town or scum. 2 policy lynches leaves us with 1 mislynch left if he flips town which is why I only pushed one.

From Orpz literally the only thing he did that bothered me was buddying me and that's not enough for me to want to lynch him. I only want to lynch Unknown. And for that to happen I have to die.

You completely skipped Eggy and Yzb. You also just said we can't vote POD and he can do nothing and get away with it, which goes against your point of not letting lurkers win. You even dropped asking for him to be replaced and instead said ignore him.

Tell me how Orpz'/ play hasn't bothered you if you Town-read him.

There is nothing else to say. I'm not going to sit around because the only person you want DEAD is me so there isn't any point in compromising or to prove that you are town. You are completely fixated on dominance over the town and I can feel you manipulating people with every word you speak.

[powerofdeath]

-vote BananaCucho

[The Godfather]

BananaCucho has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


BananaCucho (4 [L-0]): Unknown1234, yzb25, Eggy, powerofdeath
Unknown1234 (1 [L-3]): BananaCucho
powerofdeath (1 [L-3]): Orpz

[MattZed]

IT IS NOW NIGHT 2


BananaCucho has been lynched! Her role is Citizen.

Living Players:
Unknown1234
powerofdeath
Eggy
Purebe
yzb25
Orpz

Dead Players:
Gyrlander - Citizen
Stereo - Citizen
BananaCucho - Citizen

Night 2 ends in 24 hours

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[MattZed]

IT IS NOW DAY 3


Orpz has been killed by the mafia! His role is Citizen.

Living Players:
Unknown1234
powerofdeath
Eggy
Purebe
yzb25

Dead Players:
Gyrlander - Citizen
Stereo - Citizen
BananaCucho - Citizen
Orpz - Citizen

Day 3 ends in 48 hours

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3 votes to hammer.

[Unknown1234]

Hi friends. I have lots to talk about and TBH I'm okay with how yesterday went, it was how I expected it. Let's start with my babbling.

[Unknown1234]

I'm the Busdriver!

I originally scum-read Banana, but later in the day I felt less convinced. However, I had to make sure nobody thought I was Busdriver so I could get information today, and so I had to make sure I wasn't forced to reveal. Banana is a cold-hearted monster but I couldn't prevent her push.

[Unknown1234]

Information time!

Somebody is going to counter claim me. Let's be honest. It's 3v2 and I know too much to not have it happen. Scum please single yourself out now and let's start a 1v1.

[Unknown1234]

Second piece of information that the scum know I have is that yzb was the night target last night, not Orpz

The only person who would even slightly be assumed as the Busdriver was yzb because he never made any slight comments toward cautiousness of someone being Busdriver.

[Unknown1234]

Overall Conclusion: there are two scum, yzb is confirmed town to me so that leaves Purebe, Eggy and POD. Which means it is up to the last town among you three to get it together and hopefully trust me.

[purebe]

so who are your scum reads? it looks like pod/eggy to me

[Unknown1234]

No early hammering is tolerated. I really did need to make sure I posted this so people didn't look at yesterday and have 1 Town instantly hammer me with the scum. I'm actually surprised the scum attacked at all.

[Unknown1234]

PURE, if you are 100% confident I am Busdriver (or nobody counter claims me) then if you are town it is 100% those two.

[purebe]

i don't want to make this decision oh god

well lets see who counterclaims

[purebe]

so if we get a mafia today, then that means tomorrow we know who the other mafia is and we 100% win

[purebe]

more importantly I guess is if we don't get a mafia today we 100% lose, great

[purebe]

i know this is pointless but who did you bus d1 and d2?

[Unknown1234]

i know this is pointless but who did you bus d1 and d2?

Banana and Yzb. I was actually shocked they killed Stereo.

[purebe]

who did u bus them with?

[Unknown1234]

-vote orpz

I really dont like that orpz tries to justify a second policy lynch on POD knowing very well that it would put is in mylo I havnt seen a single thing he has done this game that seems to have towns interest at heart. He said he would show up to be more helpful but all he has done today is be oppurtunistic as fuck and vote for someone based solely off of activity instead of AI behavior knowing that if we mislynch now we are in critical position

Going to start off with Eggy and POD. I'll look into Purebe if I think one of them isn't scum.

Noting that Eggy goes against Orpz for trying to start a lynch on POD.

[Unknown1234]

who did u bus them with?

I bussed Banana with Yzb25.

[Unknown1234]

Sorry, if it wasn't clear I announced that my night two bus targets were Orpz and Yzb.

[purebe]

ah right sorry I got confused for a second

[Unknown1234]

I dont know what to make off unknown and BC I was town reading BC hard yesterday and I still feel like she is town but it is possible that she is scum trying to assume the role of town leader and guide us in the wrong way. I also see unknown being kind of opportunistic but at the same time he didnt vote for gylr which seems like what scum would do. I feel like atleast one person who voted gyrl is scum very likely 2 of them

Looking back at this now I think it's very safe to say that Eggy knew this was a TvT and was trying to throw shade on us or force a 1v1 (which would give them the win)

[Unknown1234]

Yzb was a strong supporter of me. Another reason why I think he would have been shot, but also because he seemed like a suspect to be Busdriver if it wasn't me.

[Unknown1234]

I missed out on a few words meant to say "put us in mylo if he flips town" I even said lower in the paragraph "if we mislynch" I am not sure that POD is town but honnestly I think he is at this point

I can't tell how the conclusion was reached, but he states that he somehow got a town-read on POD.

[purebe]

I'd love for pod to post a role claim and to see what eggy claims because I can't ignore the possibility that your mafia with one of them pretending to be BD.

[Unknown1234]

I need to sleep soon. If you have something to say now would be the time to do so.

[purebe]

i say we give it as long as it takes. if pod isn't going to post then I guess fuck it but I'd like to give him the chance

[purebe]

@powerofdeath 48 hours to make a stance, please, please do

[Unknown1234]

Honestly PURE, pretty sure you are going to be the tiebreaker and that it's up to you to make a call. Otherwise, I stayed up specifically so I could get my message in to make sure I am not quickly hammered.

At this point, do you feel like I am scum faking Busdriver? I hope you can understand why I had to push Banana so strongly. If I didn't I would be killed which completely takes away the chance of me possibly running someone over and losing a confirmed town at the same time. Even after I lost my scum-read on Banana I feel it was the right decision.

[purebe]

I've town read you the entire game, I don't think you are lying. But if you want me to vote right now there's not a chance it's happening, I want to wait to see what else is said.

[Unknown1234]

Not rushing, however I will still explain why I did everything because it will help you understand my perspective.

[Unknown1234]

Off to sleep. I'll be back tomorrow either morning or after school. Whenever I can.

[purebe]

I need to reread the entire thread before anything as well but also I want to first take a look at the odds of everything:

There are 5 players left. I am assuming yzb did not get a notification he was bused (please let me know if I am wrong.) If he did, then that makes this a lot easier, if he didn't then here we are:

No one is confirmed anything. The problem I have is that it's possible for the BD to confirm up to 2 town if he buses correctly day 1 and day 2, but, in this case conveniently he can only confirm one other person (which happens to be the number of mafia players alive.)

However, if Unknown is fake claiming BD and he and yzb are mafia, that means either eggy or pod is BD. if pod is BD there's a chance he won't even claim it, and eggy is an easy target because I've never strongly town read him, so I could see this as a master plan from Unknown/yzb. if eggy is BD then that means there's a chance it's an Unknown/pod team as well and Unknown is trying to convince yzb he is confirmed BD with this claim.

how the fuck does anyone manage to play this game without losing their god damn minds

To pile onto the growing list of problems I'm faced with is that yzb hammered day 1 and pod hammered day 2. Banana, confirmed town, thinks it's Unknown, and it looked like there was a banana/pod thing going on. If pod/banana was mafia then it makes sense for pod to have hammered banana to try to deflect suspicion but if pod is mafia then he would have known that banana would come up citizen and the hammer would not deflect suspicion, but if he was town he would also know that if banana came up mafia he would be on the chopping block next. so I can't really read shit into that vote. yzb hammered on a fucking god damn policy lynch of all things so I don't know how to read into that, especially since banana flipped town (thanks again banana, really.)

so from my point of view the possible mafia teams look like this:

Unknown/yzb
Unknown/pod
Unknown/eggy
pod/yzb
pod/eggy
yzb/eggy

I can basically rule out yzb/pod and yzb/eggy because if Unknown is mafia with pod or eggy he wouldn't try to confirm yzb as town (oh god please be the case). If no one counter claims unknown as BD then that means it's either:

Unknown/pod
pod/eggy

If that's all right then that means the only logical vote I could possibly make today is pod. If no one counter claims BD. But if that does happen, then I know unknown dies in the night if he is telling the truth.

Which WOULD confirm yzb as town. And that would mean tomorrow we lynch eggy and town wins.

but that is a lot of assumptions

[purebe]

oh and just to make the paranoia complete: it's also possible the mafia fucking shot themselves in a ridiculously epic attempt to confirm one of themselves as town + get another mislynch, going into day 4 as confirmed town (because they were bused.)

if you did that yzb/whoever then fuck it you deserve to win but I just can't even assume that's the case

[purebe]

well the only reason mafia would shoot themselves is if it was yzb/pod, and yzb was worried because each of them hammered they were going to be the most likely targets of the votes today. but, I think that would be insanity and I refuse to believe it

[powerofdeath]

-vote purebe

[purebe]

I guess I saw that coming

[purebe]

I still want eggy/yzb's perspectives

[Unknown1234]

Reading what you said, if yzb actually shot himself than he can take the win because I'm not willing to risk that level of stupidity given that it's not confirmed who the Busdriver is and that they would would bus yzb. That's fairly suicidal.

That being said, why do you see a Unknown/POD world? I have been on POD most of yesterday with Banana and that what you are saying is I took a gamble assuming yzb wasn't Busdriver and claimed it for myself.

In reality, it really only makes sense if you pair me with yzb. I'm happy to vote Up POD first regardless if you would rather have it that way.

[Unknown1234]

Also following your theory I won't be voting yzb at all. I already asked Matt that question and I don't think it's worth assuming somebody would shoot themselves. If they did, congrats to them.

[Unknown1234]

POD voting PURE says that he isn't claiming Busdriver. That much is obvious.

[purebe]

yeah at this point I assume its pod/eggy