S-FM 265: Illuminati

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Hmm, actually... Consort, do not roleblock Blinkskater tonight. @aamirus , if you really are Escort, do not roleblock Blinkskater tonight. @blinkskater , shoot Distorted tonight. Mafia gains nothing from blocking Distorted, since if there are Illuminati, which is nearly confirmed by Magoroth now, Distorted will die, and if Magoroth is in fact Mafia or something like that.... well a vigilante will have killed the innocent child so you'll still be happy!

-unvote

DO NOT LYNCH BLINK TODAY EITHER. And please, for god's sake, just look at how Distorted is scumpainting me... this scum painting is not pro town to gain information or anything, it's just plain scumpainting in order to get a mislynch on me. I think either Kenny or Varnic was an Illuminati. The game could even end with Distorted's death lol.

[Distorted]

But you're calling us all scum in 2 scum teams, meaning you are assuming illuminati exist. If you think that there are not illuminati in here then you can't say we're all scum, THAT'S IT you have two parallel views and push one when it fits your goals.

Also 2 scum teams is IMPOSSIBLE since Mafia is not scum if Illuminati exist. Mafia is apparently cleaning up the potential illuminati, looking at their kill on Varnic.

because of how scummy you are.

So, you are saying you want to change the strategy from hunting mafia to hunting illuminati? yes or no.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

-vote skip

Not willing to skip early, just putting that here to show my non-willingness to lynch today. Mafia, I would advise not to kill anyone if you really are pro-town.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

because of how scummy you are.

So, you are saying you want to change the strategy from hunting mafia to hunting illuminati? yes or no.

Being scummy doesn't change the setup, Distorted...

Yes, exactly. With what Magoroth just said, I am even more convinced of it.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

WAIT WAIT WAIT

-vote Distorted

LYNCH DISTORTED TODAY I KNOW HOW TO CONFIRM IF HE'S ILLUMINATI OR IF MAGOROTH LIED!!!!

[Distorted]

because of how scummy you are.

So, you are saying you want to change the strategy from hunting mafia to hunting illuminati? yes or no.

and for the last time YES 2 SCUM TEAMS FOR TOWN CAN EXIST. Mafia is against town correct? IF there is no illuminati. so RIGHT NOW THERE IS NO CONFIRMED ILLUMINATI. and mafia is killing towns. so right now, mafia is against town. well what if there is illuminati? well illuminati isnt going to help town win rofl so they are against town as well.

So yes, 2 scum teams are completely possible. its your lack of logic to accept these facts that, as town, you would easily understand that makes you obvious scum. As town you actually are open to the logical side, here you are just picking at nonsense.

You agreed, with most other people, that treating this setup as a standard setup until illuminati become a presence is the best option. you are now completely showing that is not your intention, and refusing to address it. You = Scum. that is it. lol and im pretty sure everyone here can see that. I have a feeling if anyone supports you it would be illuminati because THEY WANT CONFUSION in the game. they dont want town to follow a pretty solid plan to win. You are doing exactly that right now, preventing a plan from coming together.

[Distorted]

WAIT WAIT WAIT

-vote Distorted

LYNCH DISTORTED TODAY I KNOW HOW TO CONFIRM IF HE'S ILLUMINATI OR IF MAGOROTH LIED!!!!

So now you are going to illuminati hunt all game. lol so i guess we will just ignore mafia. sure lynch me get me out of this shit.

[Distorted]

-vote skip

Not willing to skip early, just putting that here to show my non-willingness to lynch today. Mafia, I would advise not to kill anyone if you really are pro-town.

lol your scum meta needs a lot of work =P

[Marshmallow Marshall]

If Distorted is Infiltrator, he switched his role to Mason tonight. @naz Can Infiltrator switch assumed role on D2 if he switched it on N1?

If he can't, it means that if we lynch Distorted, we'll know what was his assumed role. If it's still IC, it means Distorted was innocent and that @Magoroth lied, which is definetly anti town and @blinkskater will shoot Magoroth. But if he flips Mason, we will KNOW that Distorted was illuminati, and I believe the game might end there. If game doesn't end, we'll have to hunt in the people who didn't want to lynch Distorted... So I'll be confirmed non-illuminati along with Blinkskater, and we should win there.


THIS PLAN HAS NO DOWNSIDES.

[Distorted]

either way, ive spoken enough to not get modkilled today. ive said my piece - tag me for anything important but MM is my guaranteed lynch today. I wont change my vote.

[Distorted]

If Distorted is Infiltrator, he switched his role to Mason tonight. @naz Can Infiltrator switch assumed role on D2 if he switched it on N1?

If he can't, it means that if we lynch Distorted, we'll know what was his assumed role. If it's still IC, it means Distorted was innocent and that @Magoroth lied, which is definetly anti town and @blinkskater will shoot Magoroth. But if he flips Mason, we will KNOW that Distorted was illuminati, and I believe the game might end there. If game doesn't end, we'll have to hunt in the people who didn't want to lynch Distorted... So I'll be confirmed non-illuminati along with Blinkskater, and we should win there.


THIS PLAN HAS NO DOWNSIDES.

wtf is this shit? how is magoroth lying if im innocent? this is such a horrible attempt to line up lynches lol

[Marshmallow Marshall]

and for the last time YES 2 SCUM TEAMS FOR TOWN CAN EXIST. Mafia is against town correct? IF there is no illuminati. so RIGHT NOW THERE IS NO CONFIRMED ILLUMINATI. and mafia is killing towns. so right now, mafia is against town. well what if there is illuminati? well illuminati isnt going to help town win rofl so they are against town as well.

So yes, 2 scum teams are completely possible. its your lack of logic to accept these facts that, as town, you would easily understand that makes you obvious scum. As town you actually are open to the logical side, here you are just picking at nonsense.

You agreed, with most other people, that treating this setup as a standard setup until illuminati become a presence is the best option. you are now completely showing that is not your intention, and refusing to address it. You = Scum. that is it. lol and im pretty sure everyone here can see that. I have a feeling if anyone supports you it would be illuminati because THEY WANT CONFUSION in the game. they dont want town to follow a pretty solid plan to win. You are doing exactly that right now, preventing a plan from coming together.

ILLUMINATI IS A PRESENCE YOU REPROBATE, MAGOROTH JUST SAID IT

His claim is highly believeable given the hardclaim that I thought was a joke on D1.

[Distorted]

wtf is this shit? how is magoroth lying if im innocent? this is such a horrible attempt to line up lynches lol

and what if I was illumnati and DIDNT change my assumed role? I would still flip as IC lol you seriously trying too hard to create these scenarios.

But I like how you lined it up that IF IM STILL IC that u then lynch mag =P

[Distorted]

I'm Solo-Mason, for your information. My plan was to wait and never talk in mason chat, and if some mason guy started talking then that guy would be 100 HUNDERED PERCENT ILLUMINATI.

Update 1: I see MM in a possible Team with Gyrlander. Gyrlander wasn't necessarily doing townish things. D1-EoD results in a pretty strong nullread, they didn't play from a town/scum perspective up to EoD. They defended, both directly and indirectly, MM by voting Kenny. blink is also a potential scum partner of MM's. If you're Mafia, and you shot me, well gg for you. I had the potential to uncover Illuminati (albeit an extremely unlikely one).

There was a very strong resistance to lynching MM, in spite of his being widely scumread. No other lynch had that much resistance. I believe MM and Gyrlander are Mafia. If this is true, =)

Best play as Escort right now, since that is what aamirus claimed, is to either roleblock me, Gyrlander or MM. Distorted can't be anything other than Infiltrator or real IC, so there's no point in roleblocking him or checking him. If there's a Sheriff they should check me, MM, or Gyrlander. One of them. Doc should be on me or Distorted (although I don't see myself dying; if Illuminati figured out I am Mason, they won't kill me unless I seriously misunderstood the 'Infiltrator becomes Mason' shtick).

As of 11:10 AM CEST, I haven't yet been PM'd a night chat, which may indicate that the Illuminati did not pick a Mason role tonight.

Update No.3: We have Illuminati. I am solo mason and yet someone talked in my mason chat...

if this is true then mafia need to reveal.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

wtf is this shit? how is magoroth lying if im innocent? this is such a horrible attempt to line up lynches lol

If you are not infiltrator, it means that Magoroth lied, unless there is another infiltrator somewhere else which is super unlikely imo.


And... didn't you scumread Magoroth?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

and what if I was illumnati and DIDNT change my assumed role? I would still flip as IC lol you seriously trying too hard to create these scenarios.

But I like how you lined it up that IF IM STILL IC that u then lynch mag =P

If you didn't change your assumed role, it would mean you didn't change to mason, meaning that Magoroth would have lied.

[Distorted]

If you are not infiltrator, it means that Magoroth lied, unless there is another infiltrator somewhere else which is super unlikely imo.


And... didn't you scumread Magoroth?

waht if the other illuminati took mason?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

if this is true then mafia need to reveal.

Which is what I'm pushing since the fucking start of day. But everyone says they ain't mafia.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

waht if the other illuminati took mason?

Grand Wizard cannot use its assumed role's ability, only Infiltrator can. Read the setup.

[Distorted]

waht if the other illuminati took mason?

nah i think mag may be lying about that. Why would an illuminati chagne to mason to talk and out themself. he said they started talking and hasnt even said what they said. lol I call BS. possible, but very unlikely illuminati would reveal N1 for no reason.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

nah i think mag may be lying about that. Why would an illuminati chagne to mason to talk and out themself. he said they started talking and hasnt even said what they said. lol I call BS. possible, but very unlikely illuminati would reveal N1 for no reason.

Now you're realizing my plan is going to take you down so you stop addressing me and start saying Mag lies

GOTCHA BITCH

[Distorted]

Now you're realizing my plan is going to take you down so you stop addressing me and start saying Mag lies

GOTCHA BITCH

stop addressing you? im literally responding to your posts. you are still my lynch today.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

stop addressing you? im literally responding to your posts. you are still my lynch today.

Yes, of course, I am your lynch..... Why, may I ask? Put your reasons in one big post, please.

[Distorted]

@Marshmallow Marshall what stops someone else being infiltrator and taking the mason role and talking? then going after the revealed IC, lynching him saying " he isnt infiltrator so that means there is no illuminati" then lynching mag for "lying". by then 2 kills happened, then the illuminati can use the mafias last kill and it will be 2v2, illuminati wins all ties.

SO literally, you just laid out a plan that guarantees an illuminati win if I am not infiltrator. rofl and you seem to be pretty stuck on this idea

You are not even considering the fact if there is another infiltrator u just lost the game guaranteed.

[Distorted]

@Marshmallow Marshall what stops someone else being infiltrator and taking the mason role and talking? then going after the revealed IC, lynching him saying " he isnt infiltrator so that means there is no illuminati" then lynching mag for "lying". by then 2 kills happened, then the illuminati can use the mafias last kill and it will be 2v2, illuminati wins all ties.

SO literally, you just laid out a plan that guarantees an illuminati win if I am not infiltrator. rofl and you seem to be pretty stuck on this idea

You are not even considering the fact if there is another infiltrator u just lost the game guaranteed.

so, you are mafia or illuminati. either way you are not town aligned. my vote stays here.

[Distorted]

@Marshmallow Marshall what stops someone else being infiltrator and taking the mason role and talking? then going after the revealed IC, lynching him saying " he isnt infiltrator so that means there is no illuminati" then lynching mag for "lying". by then 2 kills happened, then the illuminati can use the mafias last kill and it will be 2v2, illuminati wins all ties.

SO literally, you just laid out a plan that guarantees an illuminati win if I am not infiltrator. rofl and you seem to be pretty stuck on this idea

You are not even considering the fact if there is another infiltrator u just lost the game guaranteed.

8 people right now

lynch me 7, 1 person dies tongiht, 6.

you lynch mag 5, mafia kills, 4. its now 2v2 and illuminati didnt even have to change the mafias kill. how about that. very convenient huh @Marshmallow Marshall

[Distorted]

8 people right now

lynch me 7, 1 person dies tongiht, 6.

you lynch mag 5, mafia kills, 4. its now 2v2 and illuminati didnt even have to change the mafias kill. how about that. very convenient huh @Marshmallow Marshall

just let blink shoot me tonight, let the fail go onto him again. but im lynching you. so its decided, blink will shot me - now stop wasting time trying to lynch me. find another lynch. (u know its u thats why u keep pushing me) lynching me is ur only chance at surviving. ill accept death tongiht, idgaf.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

@Marshmallow Marshall what stops someone else being infiltrator and taking the mason role and talking? then going after the revealed IC, lynching him saying " he isnt infiltrator so that means there is no illuminati" then lynching mag for "lying". by then 2 kills happened, then the illuminati can use the mafias last kill and it will be 2v2, illuminati wins all ties.

SO literally, you just laid out a plan that guarantees an illuminati win if I am not infiltrator. rofl and you seem to be pretty stuck on this idea

You are not even considering the fact if there is another infiltrator u just lost the game guaranteed.

Not guaranteed, because I really think one of the two deads are grand wizard... But wait, then Infiltrator becomes Wizard. Varnic claimed Grand Wizard in his first post...... but yes, it would be bad. HOWEVER you just reminded me that Infiltrator becomes Wizard on Wizard's death. Therefore if game doesn't just end with your death, I think we should just lynch the Mafia lol.

@Distorted If you get lynched and game doesn't end, I will start hunting Mafia down. Deal?

[Distorted]

just let blink shoot me tonight, let the fail go onto him again. but im lynching you. so its decided, blink will shot me - now stop wasting time trying to lynch me. find another lynch. (u know its u thats why u keep pushing me) lynching me is ur only chance at surviving. ill accept death tongiht, idgaf.

but wait, what stops infiltrator from now taking escort and blocking blink? the fact is we cant lay out a plan to catch illuminati. hence, going for mafia is the better bet. but you keep derailing this entire game to spam these retarded theories about illuminati that, if you follow your plan, is a game losing path. You are the scummiest person here and trying to lay out the scummiest fking plans. you need to go.

[Distorted]

Not guaranteed, because I really think one of the two deads are grand wizard... But wait, then Infiltrator becomes Wizard. Varnic claimed Grand Wizard in his first post...... but yes, it would be bad. HOWEVER you just reminded me that Infiltrator becomes Wizard on Wizard's death. Therefore if game doesn't just end with your death, I think we should just lynch the Mafia lol.

@Distorted If you get lynched and game doesn't end, I will start hunting Mafia down. Deal?

nah let blink shoot me tonight.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

just let blink shoot me tonight, let the fail go onto him again. but im lynching you. so its decided, blink will shot me - now stop wasting time trying to lynch me. find another lynch. (u know its u thats why u keep pushing me) lynching me is ur only chance at surviving. ill accept death tongiht, idgaf.

Consort, make sure to roleblock him in case he assumes Escort and blocks Blink... But yes, okay then also I'm not pushing you as a counter wagon, if I wanted to do that I'd be pushing at Mag not you.

-unvote

[Marshmallow Marshall]

OKAY new plan, thanks for pointing out the flaws in the plan Distorted lol!

Blink shoots Distorted tonight. The Consort roleblocks Distorted tonight to make sure he doesn't assume Escort and blocks Blink. Distorted flips. If he flips anything that's not IC, well we know he was Illuminati for sure. Game will probably end by there. If he flips IC and nothing happens, we start Mafia hunting, I guess.

[naz]

If Distorted is Infiltrator, he switched his role to Mason tonight. @naz Can Infiltrator switch assumed role on D2 if he switched it on N1?

role card says once per day and night....*insert face palm here*

[Marshmallow Marshall]

role card says once per day and night....*insert face palm here*

.......yes or no? It could mean "once per day/night cycle". Think of the setup as of the Bible... there are many interpretations of it. STUPID REPROBATE @naz

[Distorted]

OKAY new plan, thanks for pointing out the flaws in the plan Distorted lol!

Blink shoots Distorted tonight. The Consort roleblocks Distorted tonight to make sure he doesn't assume Escort and blocks Blink. Distorted flips. If he flips anything that's not IC, well we know he was Illuminati for sure. Game will probably end by there. If he flips IC and nothing happens, we start Mafia hunting, I guess.

nope, by then its pretty much game over. we needed eto be mafia hunting FROM FUCKING DAY 1 like we agreed to. You have literally derailed this shit so far with blink. We are set behind and now your wanting to do another gamble. you are getting lynched today. Blink can shoot me w/e just shows his reads have gone to shit lol or he is scum completely open wolfing. honestly, his town meta being "tunnel and lynch towns" is not a good thing for town....... lol but after this game its pretty evident.

[Distorted]

nope, by then its pretty much game over. we needed eto be mafia hunting FROM FUCKING DAY 1 like we agreed to. You have literally derailed this shit so far with blink. We are set behind and now your wanting to do another gamble. you are getting lynched today. Blink can shoot me w/e just shows his reads have gone to shit lol or he is scum completely open wolfing. honestly, his town meta being "tunnel and lynch towns" is not a good thing for town....... lol but after this game its pretty evident.

MM will be the lynch today, blink shoots Gyrlander, we lynch mag or aamirus. if blink doenst shoot, lynch him. but then consort or potentially infiltrator taking escort to block blink could frame him. i think theres a good chacne hes actually illuminati and going to say he was RBed... either way, how far this games gotten derailed from a simple plan that would easily have worked for town, to what it is now - blink was key behind that. you are as well.

[naz]

.......yes or no? It could mean "once per day/night cycle". Think of the setup as of the Bible... there are many interpretations of it. STUPID REPROBATE @naz

did u just insult....the host?? do I smell a modkill coming???

[Marshmallow Marshall]

nope, by then its pretty much game over. we needed eto be mafia hunting FROM FUCKING DAY 1 like we agreed to. You have literally derailed this shit so far with blink. We are set behind and now your wanting to do another gamble. you are getting lynched today. Blink can shoot me w/e just shows his reads have gone to shit lol or he is scum completely open wolfing. honestly, his town meta being "tunnel and lynch towns" is not a good thing for town....... lol but after this game its pretty evident.

Well actually lynch me today but make sure to shoot Distorted I win even if I'm dead lol. It'll allow me to fully commit to the MU game if I get lynched anyway xD

[Distorted]

did u just insult....the host?? do I smell a modkill coming???

omg please do. lol

[Marshmallow Marshall]

MM will be the lynch today, blink shoots Gyrlander, we lynch mag or aamirus. if blink doenst shoot, lynch him. but then consort or potentially infiltrator taking escort to block blink could frame him. i think theres a good chacne hes actually illuminati and going to say he was RBed... either way, how far this games gotten derailed from a simple plan that would easily have worked for town, to what it is now - blink was key behind that. you are as well.

NO. BLINK FUCKING SHOOTS DISTORTED WHEN HE SEES I FLIP TOWN.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

NO. BLINK FUCKING SHOOTS DISTORTED WHEN HE SEES I FLIP TOWN.

If you think I'm illuminati with Gyrlander for real, just lynch Gyrlander tomorrow lol. But get Distorted down for god's sake. He's doing everything he can to survive atm.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

makes it even more likely for the original Grand Wizard to be dead actually

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Also @Distorted u didnt give the big post with all the reasons u scumread me for as i asked.

[Distorted]

NO. BLINK FUCKING SHOOTS DISTORTED WHEN HE SEES I FLIP TOWN.

if you flip town im going to wonder wtf the matter with u is. because you have ignored so much info and opportunity to get more info. as well as derailed multiple conversations and attempts to GET more info. You also have not done shit in pressuring anyone else and went back on the plan for town that you agreed with. you and blink have literally derailed this entire game into a complete state of chaos by trying to hunt for illuminati and not even addressing mafia or anyone else other than, so far, 2 confirmed non mafia players.

[Distorted]

Also @Distorted u didnt give the big post with all the reasons u scumread me for as i asked.

im not giving you shit. ive stated my reasons enough times, not dumping more time into you.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

if you flip town im going to wonder wtf the matter with u is. because you have ignored so much info and opportunity to get more info. as well as derailed multiple conversations and attempts to GET more info. You also have not done shit in pressuring anyone else and went back on the plan for town that you agreed with. you and blink have literally derailed this entire game into a complete state of chaos by trying to hunt for illuminati and not even addressing mafia or anyone else other than, so far, 2 confirmed non mafia players.

I didn't go back on the plan I agreed with. The plan was to start hunting for Illuminati if they were here. I was damn convinced they were here on D1 end, and I am now 99% convinced they are here because of Mag's claim. I also never derailed convos? That's coming out of nowhere, you never accused me of that and now it pops here.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

did u just insult....the host?? do I smell a modkill coming???

YES OR NOT, LOVELY STUPID REPROBATE?

[Distorted]

im not giving you shit. ive stated my reasons enough times, not dumping more time into you.

if you flip town im going to wonder wtf the matter with u is. because you have ignored so much info and opportunity to get more info. as well as derailed multiple conversations and attempts to GET more info. You also have not done shit in pressuring anyone else and went back on the plan for town that you agreed with. you and blink have literally derailed this entire game into a complete state of chaos by trying to hunt for illuminati and not even addressing mafia or anyone else other than, so far, 2 confirmed non mafia players.

here u go just take that for now. then every other post i have addressing you. then just take 1 good look at what you have been doing this game (or lack therof) and i think thats enough info. If you are town, it should be no problem for you to see. now picture me being town (if u are) that should make it that much clearer to you.

how about you give me a list of what is scummy about me. so far you have just randomly yelled im scum over nothing. give a detailed list then, what your asking me for that ive been giving constantly about you.

[Distorted]

I didn't go back on the plan I agreed with. The plan was to start hunting for Illuminati if they were here. I was damn convinced they were here on D1 end, and I am now 99% convinced they are here because of Mag's claim. I also never derailed convos? That's coming out of nowhere, you never accused me of that and now it pops here.

lol sure go read EoD yesterday when i tried talking to gyrlander, or mag, or was trying to ask kenny questions. you kept quoting hte shit and spamming some reason i was scum.

[Distorted]

lol sure go read EoD yesterday when i tried talking to gyrlander, or mag, or was trying to ask kenny questions. you kept quoting hte shit and spamming some reason i was scum.

and you werent alone with that. blink refused to answer any question or form reads on anything. he just wanted to turbo lynch kenny asap rather than take time to get more info from EoD. but w/e im sure u dont see that as scummy at all.