S-FM 327 : Last Hope

[Lumi]

yes

also no one cc'ed getting leveled up.

yues is not magus

OK, so players in this game that have viewed day 2:
ceko, blink, lag, oberon, pqr, wrath, frinckles, crichard, yuesford

players that have not viewed day 2:
varcron, numbertwo, MM, ZZ

Admittedly it does seem unlikely that any of those last 4 were the ones that were leveled up. But Magus could easily have chosen Ozy, or a shadow, the darkness, or templar

Not to mention:

They have the whole night to choose their role among the Heroes pool, supposing they were Villager.
They can use their role power on the same night they level up, so better not to give the role at the last minute of the night.

"Following night" means the night that follows the EOD level up, so let's say DAY 1 the Magus wants to level up a Villager, then during NIGHT 1 this Villager has to choose a LVL 1 Hero role and become it.

blink is directly contradicting the host on the way the game works.

[Frinckles]

I'm gonna make a smurf next game so I'm not treated like a James Bond villain the entire time.

[theoneceko]

OK, so players in this game that have viewed day 2:
ceko, blink, lag, oberon, pqr, wrath, frinckles, crichard, yuesford

players that have not viewed day 2:
varcron, numbertwo, MM, ZZ

Admittedly it does seem unlikely that any of those last 4 were the ones that were leveled up. But Magus could easily have chosen Ozy, or a shadow, the darkness, or templar

Not to mention:


blink is directly contradicting the host on the way the game works.

u are confirmation biasing onto blink. a genuine confirmation bias, unlike the bs crichard has been pulling off this game

[CRichardForumLies]

-vote crichardforumlies

*YAWN* crichard always making excuses for doing scummy things. where have i seen similar behavior... oh yeah. scum!zone and scum!wisp. for some reason i'm very good at finding scum when they're out-of-site players.

Why not resolve the 1 for 1 between blink and frinckles?
If Blink is a hit, then Yues is confirmed bad as well.

[theoneceko]

I'm gonna make a smurf next game so I'm not treated like a James Bond villain the entire time.

knowing you, you'll be able to pull it off successfully xD

[CRichardForumLies]

u are confirmation biasing onto blink. a genuine confirmation bias, unlike the bs crichard has been pulling off this game

What so it's bs to not resolve a 1 for 1.
So what you've been smoking must be pretty good.

[CRichardForumLies]

Or if blink is scum, then it's a 1 for 2 with Yues being confirmed partner with blink in case blink is shadow.

[theoneceko]

What so it's bs to not resolve a 1 for 1.
So what you've been smoking must be pretty good.

^-^

just like what scum!frinckles said to me the last time i was town with him

[CRichardForumLies]

^-^

just like what scum!frinckles said to me the last time i was town with him

I hope I never play with you again after this game.

[theoneceko]

I hope I never play with you again after this game.

keep crying LMFAO

[Lumi]

In order for Frinckles to be lying the following has to be true:

• Frinckles correctly guessed who would be leveled up AND
• Magus decided to level up blink of all people AND
• Somehow blink's action directly contradicting with the game mechanics makes sense

All while Frinckles has been a town read for me all game and blink is my top scum read. Way too much of a stretch, especially because of:

They have the whole night to choose their role among the Heroes pool, supposing they were Villager.
They can use their role power on the same night they level up, so better not to give the role at the last minute of the night.

"Following night" means the night that follows the EOD level up, so let's say DAY 1 the Magus wants to level up a Villager, then during NIGHT 1 this Villager has to choose a LVL 1 Hero role and become it.

[theoneceko]

false AtE, i hate to see it!!!

[CRichardForumLies]

We get at least one scum out assuming this thunderdome between frinckles and blink is indeed a 1 for 1.
That's good for village as 1 for 1 trades means village wins by numbers.

[theoneceko]

In order for Frinckles to be lying the following has to be true:

• Frinckles correctly guessed who would be leveled up AND
• Magus decided to level up blink of all people AND
• Somehow blink's action directly contradicting with the game mechanics makes sense

All while Frinckles has been a town read for me all game and blink is my top scum read. Way too much of a stretch, especially because of:

just wait for auwt pls

[CRichardForumLies]

keep crying LMFAO

How about you resolve the thunderdome betweeen Frinckles and blink 1st then?
Oh wait you're trolling. Once a troll always a troll.

[CRichardForumLies]

false AtE, i hate to see it!!!

You're on my blacklist once this game is over.
I swear it.

[CRichardForumLies]

In order for Frinckles to be lying the following has to be true:

• Frinckles correctly guessed who would be leveled up AND
• Magus decided to level up blink of all people AND
• Somehow blink's action directly contradicting with the game mechanics makes sense

All while Frinckles has been a town read for me all game and blink is my top scum read. Way too much of a stretch, especially because of:

Lets not forget that if Yues is magus, why not say so already?
Know what I mean?

[Lumi]

Also I agree with what Richard said - someone among blink/yues, and frinckles is lying. I don't know why we wouldn't lynch someone among that group today.

ALSO blink choosing paladin makes no sense to me - if he were so absolutely sure I was scum, why not choose knight and then check me - if he's so confident that I'm scum then that grants him an instant level 2 role which he can then verify himself with.

By choosing paladin that lets him keep "missing" on his investigations while conveniently not checking me since he would be "looking for darkness/magus" - allowing him to continue pushing me

[CRichardForumLies]

Also I agree with what Richard said - someone among blink/yues, and frinckles is lying. I don't know why we wouldn't lynch someone among that group today.

ALSO blink choosing paladin makes no sense to me - if he were so absolutely sure I was scum, why not choose knight and then check me - if he's so confident that I'm scum then that grants him an instant level 2 role which he can then verify himself with.

By choosing paladin that lets him keep "missing" on his investigations while conveniently not checking me since he would be "looking for darkness/magus" - allowing him to continue pushing me

Also I'm going to blacklist Ceko after this game.
I don't want to be in the same game as an outed troll.

[theoneceko]

Also I'm going to blacklist Ceko after this game.
I don't want to be in the same game as an outed troll.

i am town though and you know it. if you want to live, maybe you can vote with me ^-^

how about wrath or mm? mm hasn't been talked about at all today, despite what he did to ozy

[Lumi]

Lets not forget that if Yues is magus, why not say so already?
Know what I mean?

I mean, if Frinckles is lying, then yues could be anything, so Yues not claiming Magus doesn't really give any information if Frinckles turns out to be the one lying here.

[theoneceko]

i wonder if i can convince town to vote crichard with me. he is least likely to be someone shaman targeted last night

[CRichardForumLies]

i am town though and you know it. if you want to live, maybe you can vote with me ^-^

how about wrath or mm? mm hasn't been talked about at all today, despite what he did to ozy

I'll admit those aren't bad choices and if there weren't a thunderdome between Frinckles vs blink + yuesford, then sure vote one of them out today.
Though I don't know why an outed troll like you bothers trying to talk to me.

[CRichardForumLies]

i wonder if i can convince town to vote crichard with me. he is least likely to be someone shaman targeted last night

Good luck with that when there is a thunderdome to resolve today.
And hopefully two days if blink is a hit.

[theoneceko]

I'll admit those aren't bad choices and if there weren't a thunderdome between Frinckles vs blink + yuesford, then sure vote one of them out today.
Though I don't know why an outed troll like you bothers trying to talk to me.

shaman

[CRichardForumLies]

I mean, if Frinckles is lying, then yues could be anything, so Yues not claiming Magus doesn't really give any information if Frinckles turns out to be the one lying here.

If blink is village, then frinckles is fake which I doubt.
Why overthink this thunderdome?

[Lumi]

i am town though and you know it. if you want to live, maybe you can vote with me ^-^

how about wrath or mm? mm hasn't been talked about at all today, despite what he did to ozy

We'll wait for Auwt sure, but I'm really not interested in playing in a way that involves assuming the host slipped - isn't that angleshooting by definition?

According to the setup - if blink was leveled up by the start of the night, that means he was leveled up by Magus. Which means he could choose a role AND perform an action. He is claiming he wasn't able to do that - which, according to the rules of the setup, means he is lying.

[theoneceko]

hey, can u at least explain why u trust frinckles and mm more than me? u realize both are very good players, so they can fake scum quite easily.

[CRichardForumLies]

shaman

Gamethrowing troll I see.
It is what it is.

[CRichardForumLies]

You act like a troll, you'll get called out as one.
Sucks to be you.

[theoneceko]

If blink is village, then frinckles is fake which I doubt.
Why overthink this thunderdome?

^-^

bc blink is town

[CRichardForumLies]

^-^

bc blink is town

In other news, Frinckles + blink can't both be town.
Which is the definition of a 1 for 1.

[Lumi]

shaman

Who cares about Shaman? Shaman reads as one of the weaker shadow roles. If you lose a shadow you get a consolation kill. If town mislynches your consolation kill though - you just have a shadow member die

[CRichardForumLies]

So lets see if I'm understanding this correctly.
Ceko instead of being smart by trying to resolve the 1 for 1 between frinckles and blink+yuesford wants to troll by going after me instead.
Guess I'm not coming back to this site if you're going to tolerate this trolling from them.

[Lumi]

hey, can u at least explain why u trust frinckles and mm more than me? u realize both are very good players, so they can fake scum quite easily.

I don't - if I had to pick one player (other than me) - and if they're town then I win, if they're scum then I lose - then I would pick you.

BUT, #1911

Just too many things have to fall in place perfectly for Frinckles to be lying here.

[CRichardForumLies]

It was nice knowing all of you. Shame I had to play my 1st game on this site with a troll.
Too bad.

[Lumi]

^-^

bc blink is town

And even if (big if) blink is town, then that just means we get frinckles next. Might not even need to lynch them, easy target for a magus kill.

[theoneceko]

i want the entire town to relax. don't jump the gun early.

frinckles made blink talk a lot. there has been a lot of EMOTIONAL discussion today about blink. don't let that distract from you what's important:

1. we must wait for auwt
2. mm pqr wrath crichard and numbertwo drove ozy's lynch. frinckles suggested ozy may be a powerwolf (he was wrong ^-^)
3. pqr is throwing lots of shade on blink. wrath crichard and frinckles are voting blink, and they all used AtE/OMGUS when i accused them of being scum. they're incapable of proper self-defense lmfao. at least try ffs, ur making this game WAY too easy for me.

[Lumi]

It was nice knowing all of you. Shame I had to play my 1st game on this site with a troll.
Too bad.

I don't think ceko is trolling, ceko has just experienced Frinckles manipulating the whole town before

[CRichardForumLies]

I don't think ceko is trolling, ceko has just experienced Frinckles manipulating the whole town before

I don't care if they aren't trolling.
I'm not coming back to this site after this game.

[theoneceko]

So lets see if I'm understanding this correctly.
Ceko instead of being smart by trying to resolve the 1 for 1 between frinckles and blink+yuesford wants to troll by going after me instead.
Guess I'm not coming back to this site if you're going to tolerate this trolling from them.

good xDD

[Lumi]

@Varcron is viewing the thread now, would be interested to hear his take on frinckles vs blink/Yues

[CRichardForumLies]

i want the entire town to relax. don't jump the gun early.

frinckles made blink talk a lot. there has been a lot of EMOTIONAL discussion today about blink. don't let that distract from you what's important:

1. we must wait for auwt
2. mm pqr wrath crichard and numbertwo drove ozy's lynch. frinckles suggested ozy may be a powerwolf (he was wrong ^-^)
3. pqr is throwing lots of shade on blink. wrath crichard and frinckles are voting blink, and they all used AtE/OMGUS when i accused them of being scum. they're incapable of proper self-defense lmfao. at least try ffs, ur making this game WAY too easy for me.

And what if blink is a hit?
Going to play properly if that's the case?

[theoneceko]

I don't think ceko is trolling, ceko has just experienced Frinckles manipulating the whole town before

omfg, the fact you answered this instead of @CRichardForumLies shows how townie you are, OWO

[CRichardForumLies]

good xDD

Or I just don't play in the same games you join.
That works too.

[Varcron]

-vote blinkskater

This gives you big boy scum points

Blink is my current #1 town read along with Pringles after EOD1 (Pringles probably more so since he was off in never never land trying to lynch me with no one supporting him towards EOD, means likely he is town that has a misread)

[theoneceko]

And what if blink is a hit?
Going to play properly if that's the case?

i'll probably turn inactive bc i always feel awful when i get a scumread wrong.

[Varcron]

Disclaimer: You people post too much, I am like 10 pages behind

[CRichardForumLies]

i'll probably turn inactive bc i always feel awful when i get a scumread wrong.

That's fine. As long as I don't talk to you ever again.

[theoneceko]

Disclaimer: You people post too much, I am like 10 pages behind

i'm sorry for tunneling blink.