Here is where I stand at least on my reads:
Gyrlander - Likely the most experienced FM player here, so once he has had time to catch up, he could potentially greatly benefit us if he doesn't die. Furthermore, he just joined the game halfway through today. I don't have enough data on him to even find reasons to think he's scum.
Rachyl - Doctor
Alijach - Was traveling one day, dealing with something IRL another day, and now has a surgery which is pressing in his life right now. If these reasons are true and they explain why he's been mostly away, then it's understandable. Of the few posts we have which are game-related, he mostly joked and called out SP. It's very likely Alijach/SP aren't both mafia.
Ccantman - I see mostly analytical posts. I want more specific reads from him. I gave more leeway day 1 because he was new, but at least he appears to be thinking things out rather than pressure lynching. Still, he said he'd read my earlier posts and since he hasn't pressured more, I feel like has backed off more. Message to ccantman: Do you still wish to lynch me, or not?
SP - I had a slighter scum read on him than most others, but as I see discussion going on now, I will wait for him to fully explain myself. Read on SP: To be updated.
Dougler - Most active player in the game, despite joining late. He accepts reason in arguments, so if this changes later in the game as he pushes for a vote, then he is clearly scum. So, Dougler is likely the most predictable town member here and as such, I don't read him as scum. If this assumption is wrong, then it will be easy to update later. If I die, then please reference this read.
I feel like that's everyone, so I'm going to quickly grab food and some coffee because I have some work that needs to be done tonight. I will be back in less than an hour.
If you're going to rail against me just vote already @srceenplay . Oh wait, you're gonna let others vote for you like you did yesterday. That'll surely work again.
As an addendum to my post, if ccantman still wishes to lynch me, then I will update my read to be a scum read.
Unless he provides actual reasoning, as I have already stated. It seemed he read my post, stopped pressuring me, but never changed his vote. If this is a simple mistake, then please say so. Otherwise, put yer dukes up!
Ok. Break is over. Have to wait to after work now.
-vote Doug
Gyrlander - Just started 1 hour ago,no info, can't say anything one way or another
Fury- Mafia based on his action on day 1. He says its a mistake. Justifies the lynch after that. but while its something a town would do, its also how mafia would defend. No one has said anything meaningful to make me swtich my vote so far. Not much evidence to push my vote either.
Douglas- I think this is our strongest player. I believe he is town, but as the strongest player could also be super controlling us as the mafia
Rachyl- I believe she is the doctor which means she is town, but her statements have not been very town helpful. Would be my target to lynch if she wasn't our confirmed doctor.
Allijach- AFK most of day 2. During day 1 didn't see him as mafia, just a target of SP. Nothing really changed from there.
SP- Someone who was pushing for town action (which after day 2, I see was super helpful day 1), but the past replies in the past hour hounding on the douglas make him seem more scummy than before
screenplay is all over the place
-vote srceenplay
Does SP's vote count, or does he need to use the proper name and have the vote counter update?
-vote thedougler
How am I all over the place?
I'll check in here and the but can get deep until I'm home.
Currently I'm standing between thedougler, Fury, ccantman and Alijach... Pretty sure both mafias are between these. Time to think, though.
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Can you explain me why you're voting screen? @thedougler
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Okay. My person of interest has too much suspicion on him, and i feel strongly about him sooo.
-vote TheDougler
I’m at home now where I can copy and paste more freely. I’m going to ISO my two biggest scumspects, starting with screenplay.
In response to Rachyl defending Alijach:
The irony lol... Anyway, characteristic of his disarming troll act that went on for the first 24 hours of the game. Got discussion moving I guess, but in a really toxic way that ended up pressuring doc to reveal way earlier than we all wanted. Seems to be going out of his way to troll and make us avoid him for being too obvious.
Seems like he wants ccantman to shape up and understand his mistake rather than suspecting ccantman as scum. Makes me suspect that they are teammates.
Rachyl didn’t “know” that Alijach was town. It’s just that srceenplay’s justification for voting ALijach was pants on head retarded and anyone could see it. Again he’s playing the rogue here. Could be trying to disarm opposition to him by later claiming it’s “all an act”.
This reasoning would probably mean he should have voted Alijach or Varnic yesterday, the two biggest conformists yesterday, who also contradicted themselves a lot. And yet he didn’t.
He is presenting this as an ironclad case defense of himself, but the discussion and “lead” were just the responses he should have expected to his pushing and prodding. Seems like a false-flag attempt to get an actual townie lynched by presenting Rachyl’s opposition to his impugnable reasoning as ana ll-out townie hunt, and it might have worked if Rachyl wasn’t the doc.
Challenging someone to give a certain opinion on you this early d1 is a classic scum strategy to get town to say something they can't walk away from later on. He has no cold-hard evidence against you yet, but you can use whatever he says now against him later on if he does bring that evidence to bear against you.
Your saying Doug is scum because he said Allijach and rachyl are scum, and then say because rachly voted him, he is scum? Your using rachyl's logic to prove yours.Here he votes Alijach and says he is scum with Rachyl.
Rachyl gets flustered and votes Doug scum read with him.
Doug then turns it around asking if you are ok lynching possible town.
Not scum read no more or just knows he is town?
Your using his defense on you to prove he is mafia?Here I'm an obvious cit. wonder if there is a transition to him scum reading me somewhere.
I believe that was the general conesous of everyone else. The fact she is alive is fishy, but if you note, she's not being voted right now.Saying we lynch a non cc'ed doc?
I don't see how everyone claiming cit day 1 (which I believe makes sense) make scumTelling cits it's ok to claim. Gives better chance of finding sheriff
Lots of things you can find in hindsight. Knowing 22 was sherif, he found some info. If 22 was citizen, I'm sure that would not have been noted.Admits to finding a crumb
And then some questions of douglas's posts
These all seem like small unrealted things trying to show douglas as mafia. very forced
@srceenplay
Do you have FM experience?
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@srceenplay
Do you have FM experience?
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-vote Alijach
Errr... this guy doesn't deserve being alive.
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When Varnic began telling the Sheriff who he should check, screenplay replied thusly:
As we all know, Varnic flipped town. The fact Srceenplay’s gut reaction to a town playing scummy was to advise him and not immediately smother him in suspicion suggests to me Srceenplay knew Varnic was town and was trying to coach him as a way to build trust. After all I think mafia was indifferent as to whether or not we lynched d1 (the fact we lynched a townie is just a bonus to them). They care more about staying hidden than eliminating us in broad daylight.
Banal. Typical of his posts. I’ve actually eliminated a lot of these 1-2 sentencers, but if you look for yourself there are quite a lot of these where he just says something we already know or comments on the setup.
He notices here what I did not. Notice he did not say mafia would kill Rachyl, as had occurred to most of us. I don’t think that’s what he meant. I think it immediately occurred to him that consort could keep Rachyl blocked all game. I would even go so far as to say screenplay IS the consort.
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I have played before on another site.
Every game starts with RVS
Random voting stage.
It gets the game going and people talking.
1 he attacks Rachyl for voting with him, saying you are ok lynching town?
2 I am saying he reads me as cit here. Does he slowly change on me to scum, no. It's a fast 180 with transition.
3 it fishy if they didn't kill sheriff. With rb and sheriff dead it makes no sense.
4 if all cits claim that leaves two power roles left. Puts a target on their back for mafia. It is dumb to give mafia any extra info.
5 I was ask GN if anyone noticed that he said he was sheriff. Not asking in hindsight.
Ya
Two different breads
Breeds
Another typically banal post from srceenplay. Maybe he knows when the cit claims are real and when they aren't, but the rest of us just assume cit is the default.
lol sure you do, buddy.
I think he wanted one of us to answer this so he could later bring it up and say, "see, this guy saw the crumb and thinks like a mafia!" That's exactly what I did and I took his bait. He planted the seed for a purpose.
Wouldn't surprise me if neither Gyrlander/Enoch or Fury are mafia now. I think he's had it out for me or Fury from the start because we were instrumental in lynching Varnic, me as the instigator and Fury as the hammer vote. Mafia clearly discussed this last night and is latching onto superficial leads such as this.
I firmly think ccantman and srceenplay are the mafia now. Even though ccantman is voting with me, the logic still holds if mafia are playing divergent strategies. At least one of them will buddy us and play as pro-town as possible. ccantman doesn't really think the vote on srceenplay will succeed, but it's useful as a symbolic gesture of support for the town. He will go on doing this and being as pro-town as possible because he doesn't need to lynch us to win. He can just pick us off one by one at night. Staying hidden is far more valuable to him.