Jill Stein 2016
Register

User Tag List

Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast
Results 1 to 50 of 101

Thread: Jill Stein 2016

  1. ISO #1

    Jill Stein 2016

    This November instead of voting between the lesser of two shitlords, consider voting green.

    As more people learn about Jill, the higher she climbs in the polls. If she hits 15% she will be allowed into the debates with the other two bozos.

    Last edited by BananaCucho; July 1st, 2016 at 10:56 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho

  2. ISO #2

  3. ISO #3

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    Woot! Canadian!
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  4. ISO #4

  5. ISO #5

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    I don't agree with the green party.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    deathworld's and RLVG's suicides made me lul. I take a lot of pleasure in knowing that I gave you an night action, and that you used it to kill yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face View Post
    Deathworlds is simply better than us at this game. Don't kill them for that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    fucketh me in the ass

  6. ISO #6

  7. ISO #7

  8. ISO #8

  9. ISO #9

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Our neighborinos to the North are more than welcome to engage in this discussion
    Wait....
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  10. ISO #10

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    Banana why aren't you president?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  11. ISO #11

  12. ISO #12

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    [Message deleted]
    Yeah I got that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  13. ISO #13

  14. ISO #14

  15. ISO #15

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    The racists don't want a brown president (looking at you, Trumpees)
    -vote BananaCucho
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  16. ISO #16

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    But in all seriousness, I agree with you for the most part.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  17. ISO #17

  18. ISO #18

  19. ISO #19

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by PLZLEAVEDUCKK View Post
    trump #1
    Eat a dick, asshole.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  20. ISO #20

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    Did I nail it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  21. ISO #21

  22. ISO #22

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by PLZLEAVEDUCKK View Post
    got em coach.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  23. ISO #23

  24. ISO #24

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    Sorry Banana I think I'm killing your thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  25. ISO #25

  26. ISO #26

  27. ISO #27

  28. ISO #28

  29. ISO #29

  30. ISO #30

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Have you looked into Gary Johnson? I don't agree with Libertarians but he is preferable to Trump, so vote him instead of Trump pls
    He's okay, his views on education disgust me, but he's certainly more preferable than any sort of Republican.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    deathworld's and RLVG's suicides made me lul. I take a lot of pleasure in knowing that I gave you an night action, and that you used it to kill yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face View Post
    Deathworlds is simply better than us at this game. Don't kill them for that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    fucketh me in the ass

  31. ISO #31

  32. ISO #32

  33. ISO #33

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    You know ensuring the lesser evil who doesn't immediately cause ww3

    is better than voting in the greater evil who is liable to or doing an inaction that would cause him (HMMM PRONOUN I WONDER) to get into power.

    (hyperbole)

    Quote Originally Posted by Firebringer View Post
    Lynching paladin is like picking out the biggest guy in prison and trying to beat him up because he looks the toughest.He is the most townie person here and its really silly he [has a train on him], given the level of stupid on this wagon, should I be even surprised?


  34. ISO #34

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    All publicity is good publicity mate.

    “good publicity is preferable to bad, but from a bottom-line perspective, bad publicity is sometimes better than no publicity at all. Controversy, in short, sells.”
    Donald J. Trump, Trump: The Art of the Deal

    The conspiracies.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Firebringer View Post
    Lynching paladin is like picking out the biggest guy in prison and trying to beat him up because he looks the toughest.He is the most townie person here and its really silly he [has a train on him], given the level of stupid on this wagon, should I be even surprised?


  35. ISO #35

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaladin View Post
    You know ensuring the lesser evil who doesn't immediately cause ww3

    is better than voting in the greater evil who is liable to or doing an inaction that would cause him (HMMM PRONOUN I WONDER) to get into power.

    (hyperbole)
    This same mentality is why election after election undesirable candidates are elected.

    A majority of Americans believe a third party is needed so why are all of those people voting for the same garbage?
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho

  36. ISO #36

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    This same mentality is why election after election undesirable candidates are elected.

    A majority of Americans believe a third party is needed so why are all of those people voting for the same garbage?
    Because lesser evils are still a net gain.

    Ultimately either a straight out breaking point will be reached in which both parties implode on themselves or the system itself will be destroyed in all likelihood.

    If you want to attempt to get a third party in you are probably better off trying to win a decent number of congressional seats before aiming for the presidency.

    I agree with you that both parties are nearly the same since the American Political Spectrum is so small and continuously shrunk to the point that even a new-dealer is considered to be a socialist and radical.


    In order to get a third party in straight to the presidency, at this point you would probably have to do a mass-movement not slowly move up in percentage of vote over a series of elections.
    Last edited by ThePaladin; July 1st, 2016 at 11:53 AM.

    Quote Originally Posted by Firebringer View Post
    Lynching paladin is like picking out the biggest guy in prison and trying to beat him up because he looks the toughest.He is the most townie person here and its really silly he [has a train on him], given the level of stupid on this wagon, should I be even surprised?


  37. ISO #37

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    I mean personally on some issues such as Donald Trump wanting to abandon S Korea and become friendlier with N Korea to be just the most ludicrous positions, I've seen in a while though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Firebringer View Post
    Lynching paladin is like picking out the biggest guy in prison and trying to beat him up because he looks the toughest.He is the most townie person here and its really silly he [has a train on him], given the level of stupid on this wagon, should I be even surprised?


  38. ISO #38

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaladin View Post
    Because lesser evils are still a net gain.

    Ultimately either a straight out breaking point will be reached in which both parties implode on themselves or the system itself will be destroyed in all likelihood.

    If you want to attempt to get a third party in, you are probably better off trying to win a decent number of congressional seats before aiming for the presidency.

    I agree with you that both parties are nearly the same since the American Political Spectrum is so small and continuously shrunk to the point that even a new-dealer is considered to be a socialist and radical.
    Considering that both Trump and Clinton's unfavorable ratings are so high, and polling is showing that an unprecedented number of Americans don't want either of them, this is the perfect year for a breakout candidate to surprise the two parties.

    https://www.salon.com/2016/05/25/wher...ial_candidate/
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho

  39. ISO #39

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Considering that both Trump and Clinton's unfavorable ratings are so high, and polling is showing that an unprecedented number of Americans don't want either of them, this is the perfect year for a breakout candidate to surprise the two parties.

    https://www.salon.com/2016/05/25/wher...ial_candidate/
    The problem is there its a little late-game to be pushing for a mass-movement.

    It's possible but extremely difficult and the amount of effort you would actually need is quite substantial.
    Say if there were provisions made a year or two in advance in case of this outcome of TrumpVClinton, you probably could do it. But as a spur of the moment thing, trying to hit critical mass in this time as well as getting the participation needed would be very difficult.

    Therefore I'm fine with playing the long-game with a lesser evil for the current time.
    I'm not an accelerationist and find that risking a shorter-game could potentially have unforeseen consequences.
    Last edited by ThePaladin; July 1st, 2016 at 12:02 PM.

    Quote Originally Posted by Firebringer View Post
    Lynching paladin is like picking out the biggest guy in prison and trying to beat him up because he looks the toughest.He is the most townie person here and its really silly he [has a train on him], given the level of stupid on this wagon, should I be even surprised?


  40. ISO #40

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    "Nearly half, 47 percent, of registered American voters would consider a third-party candidate if Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump were the major party nominees, according to a new NBC/WSJ poll."







    The 47% statistic doesn't tell us too much. Given that that poll appears to be just a basic telephone-based with only 1000people(not stated if regional or national either). We can't really infer to much. If anything what would occur if people actually did follow through in that and the percentage is accurate(both of which I doubt), I doubt all of them are liberal leaning and would vote for green, if anything there could also be a move towards the Libertarian party.

    Nor Do I see that still being enough to win electoral votes even to cause one candidate to get <50% given the winner take all system in place in most.
    Last edited by ThePaladin; July 1st, 2016 at 12:10 PM.

    Quote Originally Posted by Firebringer View Post
    Lynching paladin is like picking out the biggest guy in prison and trying to beat him up because he looks the toughest.He is the most townie person here and its really silly he [has a train on him], given the level of stupid on this wagon, should I be even surprised?


  41. ISO #41

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaladin View Post
    "Nearly half, 47 percent, of registered American voters would consider a third-party candidate if Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump were the major party nominees, according to a new NBC/WSJ poll."







    The 47% statistic doesn't tell us too much. Given that that poll appears to be just a basic telephone-based with only 1000people(not stated if regional or national either). We can't really infer to much. If anything what would occur if people actually did follow through in that and the percentage is accurate(both of which I doubt), I doubt all of them are liberal leaning and would vote for green, if anything there could also be a move towards the Libertarian party.

    Nor Do I see that still being enough to win electoral votes even to cause one candidate to get <50% given the winner take all system in place in most.
    All it takes is 15% to get into the debates. Stein is halfway there in some polls.

    Once into the debates and people see there are other options its a game changer.
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho

  42. ISO #42

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    All it takes is 15% to get into the debates. Stein is halfway there in some polls.

    Once into the debates and people see there are other options its a game changer.
    Not necessarily.

    I would say most people are aware of third parties as is even without their debate. And I doubt more-so that there are those who say and will actively act against the current parties who also don't know about third parties and a basic premise of positions such as green being left and less-authoritative and libertarian being right and less-authoritative than the current parties.

    It also wouldn't be the first time a third party was in a debate, the current spectrum establishment or whatever you want to call it easily defeats them still.

    ". In 1980, Jimmy Carter strongly opposed the inclusion of independent candidate John Anderson, who had polled as high as 26 percent, in the debates. (Anderson would ultimately finish with less than 7 percent of the vote.) The League decided to include Anderson anyway, prompting Carter to drop out of the debates and leaving Anderson alone to debate Ronald Reagan. In 1984, the League held a press conference lambasting Reagan and Walter Mondale for rejecting dozens of potential debate moderators."

    There is also much more than just 15% threshold

    In addition to meeting the 15 percent threshold "as determined by five selected national public opinion polling organizations," the CPD mandates that candidates be Constitutionally eligible to be president and be on the ballot in enough states that it is mathematically possible to win the presidency.



    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/do-the-debates-unfairly-shut-out-third-parties/2/




    Quote Originally Posted by Firebringer View Post
    Lynching paladin is like picking out the biggest guy in prison and trying to beat him up because he looks the toughest.He is the most townie person here and its really silly he [has a train on him], given the level of stupid on this wagon, should I be even surprised?


  43. ISO #43

  44. ISO #44

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    I'm not arguing that a third party candidate wouldn't be a good thing to have in office.

    I just feel that if we were to rush straight to presidency; it's far too late for that to occur, The third partys and their candidates(or anyone else running) should have made a very encompassing plan rather than just hoping for votes and appealing to dissatisified voters since clearly that approach hasn't work.

    It would take a lot of funds and the candidates being decided much earlier and actively campaigning much early(probably would have to be as early as start of traditional party primaries). As well as a very large grassroots in addition to it.

    Given the current state of affairs the most likely thing that would convince people to vote third parties would be to win either seats at the state or congressional level and gain enough to force both parties to hear them on issues in order to gain votes to pass legislation.

    If you were to win let's say 10% of either or both houses of congress. That would prove to the electorate that they are viable for presidential as well and potentially cause enough traction to hit critical mass by the next presidential election.

    Quote Originally Posted by Firebringer View Post
    Lynching paladin is like picking out the biggest guy in prison and trying to beat him up because he looks the toughest.He is the most townie person here and its really silly he [has a train on him], given the level of stupid on this wagon, should I be even surprised?


  45. ISO #45

  46. ISO #46

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    The point is Paladin, while Clinton doesn't use the same hateful rhetoric Trump employs, I refuse to vote for someone I disgree with and who would be bad for the country.

    Drone strikes are bad.

    You know what else is bad? Abandoning S Korea and Becoming friends with N Korea, literally the worst dictatorship in the world.

    You know what else is bad? Letting 10% of the syrian population be killed and helping the murderer.


    "Sticking it to the man" doesn't actually help anything if there isn't a carefully though out process of what will we gain through this specific action rather than "sticking it to the man"

    I would say most Brexit leave voters thought that way and a decent percentage(not saying all or even most) didn't realize the full repercussions given some of the comments I've seen by voters post-referendum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Firebringer View Post
    Lynching paladin is like picking out the biggest guy in prison and trying to beat him up because he looks the toughest.He is the most townie person here and its really silly he [has a train on him], given the level of stupid on this wagon, should I be even surprised?


  47. ISO #47

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    When a person actively says.


    Let's implement a system of internet censorship like China's Great Firewall solely to keep terrorist activity out.

    I find that very disturbing. And one of the most harmful outcomes including beyond the United States if it's implemented[not a stretch given enough of a knee-jerk reaction by the populace if a few more major terrorist attacks occurred on US soil]

    Quote Originally Posted by Firebringer View Post
    Lynching paladin is like picking out the biggest guy in prison and trying to beat him up because he looks the toughest.He is the most townie person here and its really silly he [has a train on him], given the level of stupid on this wagon, should I be even surprised?


  48. ISO #48

  49. ISO #49

    Re: Jill Stein 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaladin View Post
    Drone strikes are bad.

    You know what else is bad? Abandoning S Korea and Becoming friends with N Korea, literally the worst dictatorship in the world.

    You know what else is bad? Letting 10% of the syrian population be killed and helping the murderer.


    "Sticking it to the man" doesn't actually help anything if there isn't a carefully though out process of what will we gain through this specific action rather than "sticking it to the man"

    I would say most Brexit leave voters thought that way and a decent percentage(not saying all or even most) didn't realize the full repercussions given some of the comments I've seen by voters post-referendum.
    So what I'm hearing is 4 awful years of Trump, people learn their lessons, even more 3rd party votes next time. Cool story.
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho

  50. ISO #50

 

 

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •