The reason it could be NAI is that WrathCyber’s commentary was very reasonable, and him being a new player kinda scares me. X.X
That being said, I still think hes town
The reason it could be NAI is that WrathCyber’s commentary was very reasonable, and him being a new player kinda scares me. X.X
That being said, I still think hes town
hmmmmmm
easy to follow steps, i wonder if it's a mistake to follow a path someone lays out for you in FM. the last time i did that, i got completely screwed (thanks frinckles)
i'll entertain you and see where this goes. bc i'm "99%" sure you're town, as frinckles said about me earlier
PORNHACK is also a good scum candidate for being a sheep tbh
I’m like 95% sure someone will scumread Richard for his tone, but his play is NAI, and his thoughts were pretty good
Also since I just realized what @Oberon was talking about, wanted to address it now. You mentioned that I was going after you for something OOG, if you're referring to what I think you're referring to then:
While I disagree with some of your world views, I don't hold a grudge against you as a person. I think people can get along very well despite having different world views (and in some cases that just involves agreeing to not talk about those topics with each other - which is why I didn't respond to you at all later in that thread, despite having read your posts - it's just best to not open that can of worms).
I do apologize for the tone of that message though, since I wrote it assuming you weren't being entirely genuine with your posts (trolling), but since you were being genuine, then while I do still very much disagree with you - I apologize for being so harsh.
If you want to talk about it more we can take the conversation offline (although not sure what the rules are with FM? Surely people can still DM each other while playing in a FM game together as long as they don't talk about the game?).
The steps are open to their interpretation - and (in my opinion at least) a pretty logical conclusion following from my analysis.
There is of course the third option of them just saying "your analysis is bad, go home"
But I would obviously disagree with them at that point lol
Yes, my bad lagattack. I’d just woken up when I posted that so I misread.
Ah yes my prediction has come to pass .
Regarding Wrath, I feel like they probably wouldn't be hard defending Oberon if they were Village/Scum here as that would incriminate Wrath as having TMI if Oberon were to flip V at EoD.
The most likely world I think we're living in is that Wrath + Oberon are town.
So my PoE is something like this.
Marshmallow Marshal: 1 poster who seems to be occupied by real life.
PQR: Don't remember them solving in any notable way.
ZZOrange; Not s/s with Yuesford.
Yuesford: Not s/s with ZZOrange.
NumberTwo: Two poster who has gone AWOL.
blinkskater: Don'r remember thinking this is obvious villager.
Mind you it seems I missed skater by 14 hours.
So if they're town, then I missed a chance to find out by interacting with them.
It is what it is.
I feel like Marshmallow Marshal should be able to be make themselves obvious town if they posted more.
They come across as experienced at Forum Mafia and I've seen them on other forum mafia websites.
So @Marshmallow Marshall , lets talk.
So if my PoE is correct and contains all 3 shadows, then just two of them have to clear themselves socially or otherwise and that's gg.
I'm not entirely sure I've got the solve as this is D1.
In before it turns out I miscleared someone D1.
i swear at some point during this game we already found scum from one of the ppl that actually posted.
i've noticed a trend of games being solved day 1; in last game, frinckles found both scum on day 1. i played one where scum!wisp was lynched day 1, then on day 2 town won when oberon, who was the last scum, forfeited. i also played one with bruno where he basically called out three scum on day 1...
i re-read wrath's iso. sorry crichard, but i heavily disagree with ur townread on him. even though it can be argued that the interactions between wrath and oberon were town v town, pretty much every other post he makes just looks scummy lol
looking at lurkers isn't a bad idea, but looking more into wrath's play isn't a bad idea either
I can see Wrath being a possible misclear if they were defending Oberon for towncred if the latter is town.
Speaking of lurkers, I haven't heard much from PQR for sometime.
People be thread sitting all this time?
Scrolling through some ISO's:
I see MM caught up only 1st page; that's to be expected, he warned us that he won't have no time.
However, tonally he is in his scum meta. For comparison, matrix6 was his town meta. Also, being against the neutral revealing? wtf?
@CRichardForumLies
If you don't mind me asking, how did this post came to be?
Because, before then - I posted twice how to get to the ISO feature, one of which you said thank you to:
I question how genuine you are, or if it's all just performative.
Ceko and LagAttack are just lock town though.
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One last message before I go offline for a while. If wrath flips scum then there's a very good chance that Oberon is scum too, potential 2 for 1 there, with double the upside I think special scrutiny should be paid on those two for that reason.
Although I also want to policy lynch lurkers PQR with special mentions in the department because I had them as my scummiest read along the lurkers
Oh I found there is an ISO feature once I was pointed to it by PQR.
This is my first game here on this site, so it would make sense I had trouble accessing ISOs at first.
@Varcron
you wanted me to go dig through the pages to quote his direct posts, instead of paraphrasing them, in order to point out a contradiction?
Cmon mate
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Chainsaw Defense
The general form of this tell is "a player who defends another player by attacking the other player's attacker is very probably scum".
-vote PQRnHack
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@CRichardForumLies
You ignored LagAttack's multiple paragraphs of debunk of your argument about Oberon's train, only interest you had was the 1-liner of `30 scum points to you`.
I feel like debating your reasons could be valuable in the pursuit of truth, not just pointing them out and ignoring other's skepticism of it.
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tonally, this sounds like a newbie that unfortunately rolled scum
contradiction
considering these are wrath's very first FM posts and that he's a player from the mod, i've to say that wrath is playing like many scum players on the mod. he creates confusion.
doesn't even point out which post is "overcomplicating" the game for town, but i assume he was referring to varcron here
wrath is using big words here, but his read on lagattack doesn't make sense. he doesn't go into detail why lagattack is "clearly manipulating us." strangely, he puts lagattack in the "Scumish" category too with zzOrange. however, his reason for scumreading zz is kinda bs too. since this was the very beginning of the game, i won't ding him too much for the zz read. however, if wrath flips scum, i'm most likely going to read zz as town
the only info you need to take from this is that wrath was AGREEING with varc here
for context purposes, this is literally just two posts after. note how in the reads list i quoted, he had varc as a top town, then when he listed the "Scum" as AFK lurkers, said he was agreeing with varc here. people changing minds in RVS stage isn't typically scummy, but this is a very drastic change in his opinion of varc.
more attacks on varcron
this looks like it helps town, but it really doesn't >_>
i can't tell if wrath is trying to fake being helpful or if he's actually trying to help.
more attacks on varcron
i personally find his yuesford read to be odd. does anyone else think yuesford is a templar?? the fact he used "freudian slip" to suggest yuesford is also odd. perhaps he's bringing a grudge from the mod into this game??
his crichard scumread is based on tone and inaccurate information (this is crichard's first fm on this site, not his first fm in general)
wayward?? why r u so confident that oberon is town?
more confidence in oberon's towniness
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the biggest scumtell is his "jester-read" on lagattack. i don't think we should ever see wrath as town for this, and i'll explain why. i've seen a thousand players on the mod sow confusion with pretty random posts, and i don't think u can get more random in this game than claiming lagattack is a jester. he seems to have backtracked off that strategy since then, but i get the feeling that's just because he realized this wasn't a viable strategy in FM, which lasts way longer than games on the mod.
it's not surprising that wrath scumread varc, since varc "always looks scummy," but his shift from seeing varc as town to scum is too drastic to make me think it's genuine.
players on the mod tend to vote with and defend their scum teammates. rn, wrath is clearly defending oberon. wrath doesn't know oberon's meta, so i find it hard to believe that wrath is a villager who saw oberon's blatantly scummy posts, then jumped ahead a few steps to not only townread oberon but also scumread varcron and lagattack, who suspect oberon of being scum. also, as auwt said, there wasn't a n0 for the mafia to discuss their strategy, so if oberon is scum, there's no way he could've told wrath to consider bussing.
this is purely a tonal argument, but wrath sounds too confident in his reads. this is likely a big scumtell if you consider a world where he's a newbie scum who doesn't know that scum should act like they don't know anyone else's faction is. wrath has not given that "confused townie" vibe all game
finally, i agree with whoever said wrath is a "frozen scum." wrath's playstyle reminds me a lot of my very first scum game. i didn't know how to interact with my teammates in the thread or how to convince everyone i was town while voting town out, so i kind of just AFK'ed. to me, wrath definitely looks like he's lurking too much for a noob town
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if you didn't know, you can check the bottom of the page to see who's viewing the thread.
pqrnhack isn't "lurking," at least based on my definition of "lurking," which is when a player views the thread without actually contributing. pqrnhack has been straight up afk. i haven't seen her viewing the thread for a while
I feel like this is your 4th post and 50% of your content has been clarifying people on mafia role mechanics and chat mechanics. You're very familiar with the Scum side of the setup, good, but is fair to say that it's easier for you to post stuff like that than reads and opinions?
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Ok, after that chainsaw defense of PQR.
After that familiarity of scum roles of PQR. (bad point, i know, bite me!)
After this scum/scum interaction.
I want either PQR or Varcron lynched today.
There's is little to no doubt in my mind that they're both Shadows.
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/will continue catching back up later
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Ohh and my read on Wrath is still `he has either a severe case of town syndrome or straight up mod-jester`.
TWBTAW
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I flip-flop a lot..
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@OzyWho what are 'Chainsaw Defense' and 'TWBTAW'?
Yeah I was considering Lag's counter argument when I was talking about Oberon's wagon/train.
Oberon has scum/scum equity with Wrath and I'll definitely be placing my vote on either of them if one of them flips today and they are shadow.
I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out I was misclearing at least Wrath/Oberon.
I still don't like PQRnhack coasting and just talking about mechanics.
-vote PQRnHack
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