S-FM The Thing

[Ganelon]

Yeah the settings are more complicated than I espected.

if distorted kill someone at night, he can also kill the survivalist? Or only the things can be killed by the SC?

Anybody that is not night immune can be killed at night by the SC.

[Rachyl]

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...S-FM-The-Thing

okay thanks give me a minute, im reading through it real quick

[Distorted]

Anybody that is not night immune can be killed at night by the SC.

Loner (Mass Murderer) - Go on a Spree at someone's house every two nights, killing anyone who visits your target. You cannot be killed the night you kill someone.

Chemist (Arsonist) - Poison someone at night. Poison lasts for one day and can be healed by a Doctor. If the poison is not healed, your target along with your target's target will die.

Meaning the night the MM kills someone, thats the only time survivalist is NI.

[Lenneth]

Loner (Mass Murderer) - Go on a Spree at someone's house every two nights, killing anyone who visits your target. You cannot be killed the night you kill someone.

Chemist (Arsonist) - Poison someone at night. Poison lasts for one day and can be healed by a Doctor. If the poison is not healed, your target along with your target's target will die.

Meaning the night the MM kills someone, thats the only time survivalist is NI.

AND :

Original Thing (Cult Leader) - Can choose to go into hiding every two nights, becoming completely immune to death at night

We didn't have SC yesterday so the OT will probably be NI tonight.

[Distorted]

AND :

Original Thing (Cult Leader) - Can choose to go into hiding every two nights, becoming completely immune to death at night

We didn't have SC yesterday so the OT will probably be NI tonight.

@Magoroth if the thing goes into hiding, does that mean he cannot recruit that night?

[Rachyl]

I wonder if the chemist can poison the Thing?

[Distorted]

I wonder if the chemist can poison the Thing?

ayy chemist can poison anyone.

[Ganelon]

@Magoroth if the thing goes into hiding, does that mean he cannot recruit that night?

Yes

[Lenneth]

Yes

So probably, the OT will hide tonight and the thing will convert someone

[Distorted]

@Magoroth if the thing is poisoned by the chemist the night he is in hiding, does the poison still go through and kill him a day later? or does it stop the poison? alternatively - if the thing is poisoned and the NEXT night goes into hiding, can he die from that poison still? im not sure when the people from poison die lol is it EoD? or night?

[Lenneth]

You may frame a Thing as a Thing.

what is the purpose of that? XD

[Distorted]

So probably, the OT will hide tonight and the thing will convert someone

man we shoulda been doing this D1 lol

[Lenneth]

@Magoroth if the thing is poisoned by the chemist the night he is in hiding, does the poison still go through and kill him a day later? or does it stop the poison? alternatively - if the thing is poisoned and the NEXT night goes into hiding, can he die from that poison still? im not sure when the people from poison die lol is it EoD? or night?

I think he die the next night. (48h)

[Distorted]

You may frame a Thing as a Thing.

what is the purpose of that? XD

probably if you have a detective on you and ur claiming a protective or something, dunno lol or if you get outted as a thing u can "frame" another thing to give them cover? there is unlikely but usable strategies with it =P

[Lenneth]

man we shoulda been doing this D1 lol

than also mean if the OT hide and you killhis buddy tonight, they won't convert anyone

[Rachyl]

probably if you have a detective on you and ur claiming a protective or something, dunno lol or if you get outted as a thing u can "frame" another thing to give them cover? there is unlikely but usable strategies with it =P

LMFAO!

[Distorted]

than also mean if the OT hide and you killhis buddy tonight, they won't convert anyone

We can expect heavy bussing in this setup....

[Ganelon]

@Magoroth if the thing is poisoned by the chemist the night he is in hiding, does the poison still go through and kill him a day later? or does it stop the poison? alternatively - if the thing is poisoned and the NEXT night goes into hiding, can he die from that poison still? im not sure when the people from poison die lol is it EoD? or night?

if the thing is poisoned by the chemist the night he is in hiding, does the poison still go through - No.
if the thing is poisoned and the NEXT night goes into hiding, can he die from that poison still - Yes.
m not sure when the people from poison die - End of the following night

[Distorted]

if the thing is poisoned by the chemist the night he is in hiding, does the poison still go through - No.
if the thing is poisoned and the NEXT night goes into hiding, can he die from that poison still - Yes.
m not sure when the people from poison die - End of the following night

so....I could be poisoned right now??? >=O What kind of sick host allows people to get poisoned and watches them slowly die!!!!! >=O

[Lenneth]

so....I could be poisoned right now??? >=O What kind of sick host allows people to get poisoned and watches them slowly die!!!!! >=O

trapper *cought* xD

[Lenneth]

We can expect heavy bussing in this setup....

heavy bussing? what does at mean?

[Rachyl]

Wait so we dont know if were poisoned or not? thats kind of dumb though, because how is the doctor supposed to know if were poisoned if we dont? doesnt that ruin the purpose of even having a doctor if we ourselves cant even let him know that were poisoned? the odds seem stacked against Town

[Distorted]

heavy bussing? what does at mean?

bussing is when evils "throw each other under the bus" kinda thing. Push at each other, vote each other ect. The OG thing will really be the only 1 worth reading lynch alignments on.

[Distorted]

Wait so we dont know if were poisoned or not? thats kind of dumb though, because how is the doctor supposed to know if were poisoned if we dont? doesnt that ruin the purpose of even having a doctor if we ourselves cant even let him know that were poisoned? the odds seem stacked against Town

well if we knew we were poisoned that would defeat the purpose of it =P consider it like an SK, but just with a delayed kill. It's actually less powerful than an SK cuz it gives us an extra day with whomever was targeted.

[Lenneth]

bussing is when evils "throw each other under the bus" kinda thing. Push at each other, vote each other ect. The OG thing will really be the only 1 worth reading lynch alignments on.

But that mean they actualy know each other?

well if we knew we were poisoned that would defeat the purpose of it =P consider it like an SK, but just with a delayed kill. It's actually less powerful than an SK cuz it gives us an extra day with whomever was targeted.

and that still let a chance for the doc (if he exist) to luckily heal someone

[Distorted]

But that mean they actualy know each other?



and that still let a chance for the doc (if he exist) to luckily heal someone

once the night chats open with will know eachother.

[Lenneth]

once the night chats open with will know eachother.

Oh yep !

Good night folks, see you soon !

[Distorted]

Oh yep !

Good night folks, see you soon !

Gnight

[Rachyl]

Oh yep !

Good night folks, see you soon !

goodnight Lenneth!

[Rachyl]

Im taking a shower and going to bed, goodnight everyone!

[Marshmallow Marshall]

i like how mm ignroed my wall of text, it was more contributing than his whole posts the entire game. oh well

My answer to the post I just quoted was deleted?????????? I had basically said I answered, it's there, I said I was townreading you because thoughts were clear and precise, and i was agreeing with most stuff, i also answered the questions u had on me. Just search lol... unless that was deleted too x.x

[Marshmallow Marshall]

@Scvmurderer can you confirm you did not talk in a night chat btw? since masons have a night chat there is that possibility you did talk to recruit someone =P

And there I had said you gave the perfect WIFOM for the scum I might find lol

[Marshmallow Marshall]

but, want me to just confirm u as town. that makes you the lead pretty much and takes all this damn attention off you. The way I see it I need to die sooner or later so if I can do it sooner to make a 'confirmed town' then I see that being more beneficial.

But YOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUU can be a confirmed town... be S.C. and get re-elected, you won't get converted. And I think you not being the Thing is an obvious atm lol, cult would be retarded to convert you on n1.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

u claimed cit, its best for a citizen to have this role due to not having to decide between a TPR action and vigi. it pretty much turns u into a confirmed, immmune to conversion vigilante.

you claimed cit too... plus you are already elected lol. I don't want you to daykill. It's useless risk atm.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

No dont use it on hybrid use it on someone who could be the thing but i advise you dont use it during the day you should lead us

I think like blink atm. Use it at night, you don't die if you do that. Only your target does.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

that im still looking at. if i had to choose right now this second, dutes. he vanishes whenever someone pushes back at him.

What do you think about blink @Distorted ? Your only reason to let him go was that he gave his word... lol...

[Gyrlander]

I voted Dutes cause he seems quite hey here I am hey BYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and seems like a shady person... I wouldn't be surprised if it were him. I mean, how was he the other game he played? I guess we can use some meta.

[Distorted]

What do you think about blink @Distorted ? Your only reason to let him go was that he gave his word... lol...

Well...He hasn't broken that meta yet..... But he did claim TPR so will prolly want info later - I'm somewhat lost in this just due to needing to figure out what strategy to take...

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I voted Dutes cause he seems quite hey here I am hey BYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and seems like a shady person... I wouldn't be surprised if it were him. I mean, how was he the other game he played? I guess we can use some meta.

He was silent, but not that kind of silent. He was contributing. Now he's really doing filler posts and calling people out for lurking when he's the most lurking lurker.

[Distorted]

I voted Dutes cause he seems quite hey here I am hey BYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and seems like a shady person... I wouldn't be surprised if it were him. I mean, how was he the other game he played? I guess we can use some meta.

dutes last game was more aggressive, talked more, and asked more questions. this game he is kinda popping in then leaving when the heats off him. If it were to turn night right now he would be the target.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Well...He hasn't broken that meta yet..... But he did claim TPR so will prolly want info later - I'm somewhat lost in this just due to needing to figure out what strategy to take...

WELL I didn't finish the reading yet but please, DO NOT DAYKILL! I want you to be the confirmed citivig with conversion immunity!!!

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Well...He hasn't broken that meta yet..... But he did claim TPR so will prolly want info later - I'm somewhat lost in this just due to needing to figure out what strategy to take...

I'm ready to give him a chance FOR TODAY just because you know him very very well, and that I townread you a lot. But seriously... I really don't feel like letting him go. Btw this is about blink, to avoid any ambiguous situation (lemme guess, it's not even a word?)

[Marshmallow Marshall]

dutes last game was more aggressive, talked more, and asked more questions. this game he is kinda popping in then leaving when the heats off him. If it were to turn night right now he would be the target.

I call meta from the mod too: his play really impressed me on the mod. I had some good games with him. I really get a scummy vibe from him atm. So this plan got my approval. Actually, it got it so much that...

-vote dutes

[Gyrlander]

I call meta from the mod too: his play really impressed me on the mod. I had some good games with him. I really get a scummy vibe from him atm. So this plan got my approval. Actually, it got it so much that...

-vote dutes

Do you want to ask me anything MM. I'm sleepy and willing to fullfil all your desires.

[Distorted]

@Magoroth


Order of Operations:
0.1 Thing Night Chat, Addict Night Chat
0.2 The Original Thing goes into hiding
1. Bartender roleblocks someone
2. Biologist frames or inoculates someone
3. Loner Attack
3.5. Station Commander Attack
4. Thing/Original Thing Attack.
5. Poisoner gives poison
6. Guard protects someone
7. Doctor investigates someone
8. Drug Dealer converts someone
9. Warden alert
10. Tracker visits (sees all night actions, including those further down the list)
11. Coroner Autopsy
12. Radio Operator sees night chat
13. Drunkard blackmails
14. Snitch reads last will
15. Poisoner Poison acts (if not healed)
16. Drug Addicts/Drug Dealers are informed of fellow Addict's/Drug Dealer's conversion (if applicable)

ok so the OoO are somewhat off..... Bodyguard protects BEFORE thing conversion happens. In this result the thing would convert beforehand.

Also, You have the conversion BEFORE the investigation - so the doctor would see if someone was converted that night correct?

[Distorted]

@Magoroth and what does 3.0 and 3.5 mean? they happen at the same time? or not?

0.1 Thing Night Chat, Addict Night Chat
0.2 The Original Thing goes into hiding
1. Bartender roleblocks someone
2. Biologist frames or inoculates someone
3. Loner Attack
3.5. Station Commander Attack
4. Thing/Original Thing Attack.
5. Poisoner gives poison
6. Guard protects someone
7. Doctor investigates someone
8. Drug Dealer converts someone
9. Warden alert
10. Tracker visits (sees all night actions, including those further down the list)
11. Coroner Autopsy
12. Radio Operator sees night chat
13. Drunkard blackmails
14. Snitch reads last will
15. Poisoner Poison acts (if not healed)
16. Drug Addicts/Drug Dealers are informed of fellow Addict's/Drug Dealer's conversion (if applicable)

[Distorted]

@Magoroth Updated to what I believe it is, is this correct?

0.1 Thing Night Chat, Addict Night Chat
0.2 The Original Thing goes into hiding
1. Bartender roleblocks someone
2. Biologist frames or inoculates someone
3. Bodyguard / Doctor protects
4. Survivalist Attack and Station commander attack
5. Thing/Original Thing conversion.
6. Poisoner gives poison
7. Doctor investigates someone
8. Drug Dealer converts someone
9. Warden alert
10. Tracker visits (sees all night actions, including those further down the list)
11. Coroner Autopsy
12. Radio Operator sees night chat
13. Drunkard blackmails
14. Snitch reads last will
15. Poisoner Poison acts (if not healed)
16. Drug Addicts/Drug Dealers are informed of fellow Addict's/Drug Dealer's conversion (if applicable)

[Distorted]

@Magoroth oops forgot to move poison down since I dont think you will be sending out the notifications to the guy who got poisoned =P (example: tracker gets poisoned, you wouldent send him his results and then send him a message saying he died...)

0.1 Thing Night Chat, Addict Night Chat
0.2 The Original Thing goes into hiding
1. Bartender roleblocks someone
2. Biologist frames or inoculates someone
3. Bodyguard / Doctor protects
4. Survivalist Attack // Station commander attack // Poisoner Poison acts (if not healed)
5. Thing/Original Thing conversion.
6. Poisoner gives poison
7. Doctor investigates someone
8. Drug Dealer converts someone
9. Warden alert
10. Coroner Autopsy
11. Radio Operator sees night chat
12. Drunkard blackmails
13. Snitch reads last will
14. Tracker visits
15. Drug Addicts/Drug Dealers are informed of fellow Addict's/Drug Dealer's conversion (if applicable)

[Distorted]

So it looks like a Doctor also has 2 nights to heal someone who is poisoned, thats beneficial. They can heal the initial time of poison or the night after

[Scvmurderer]

@Scvmurderer can you confirm you did not talk in a night chat btw? since masons have a night chat there is that possibility you did talk to recruit someone =P

I'm the bg