S-FM 208: Black Flag Nightless

[secondpassing]

I read Calix as scum for the obvious support of Never Unlucky.

"Something something makes strong points against sp. Town." -- as said by Calix.

[TheDarkestLight]

I can't remember why Spruance said TDL was scum. I would now be willing to lynch TDL based on coming back and posting very little.

The only bit he did post was the shade he threw onto me.

So... I got this so far...

1: People who town read you are town, see Unknown.
2: People who scum read you are scum, see everyone that called you out.

[secondpassing]

So... I got this so far...

1: People who town read you are town, see Unknown.
2: People who scum read you are scum, see everyone that called you out.

Basically the scum outed themselves day one yes.

[secondpassing]

Exception for Iced. Okay back to work.

[TheDarkestLight]

-vote secondpassing

I'm content with this. Scummy or just sheer bad. Which is unfortunately such a common thing that comes up in regards to scum reading people, but oh well.

[Calix]

I can't remember why Spruance said TDL was scum. I would now be willing to lynch TDL based on coming back and posting very little.

The only bit he did post was the shade he threw onto me.

You're slipping so hard you'll be outdoing Paladin in the Hall of Fame. Anyone who scum-reads you becomes suspect and whoever agrees with you is town? lmao

You don't remember the reasoning that you supposedly agree with. Right.

Can everyone on the NU train pull their head out of their arse and vote for this instead?

[TheDarkestLight]

Basically the scum outed themselves day one yes.

So the game revolves around you? Christ. You think all the scum will out themselves by all simultaneously pushing you? How fucking self centered can you get?

[Calix]

I read Calix as scum for the obvious support of Never Unlucky.

"Something something makes strong points against sp. Town." -- as said by Calix.

Pre-flip associations and scum-reading a player who supports one of your vocal accusers.

Basically the scum outed themselves day one yes.

You sound like Mikecall when he was Executioner.

"FUCK YEAH THE ENTIRE SCUM TEAM RANDOM-VOTED ME IN THE FIRST 20 POSTS"

[secondpassing]

A part of me fears that SP is just playing bizarrely (as opposed to being scum) with his kooky "soup of the day" type approach to FM strategy. For example, when he chose to mimic Sen's "ignore people" in Gyrlander's game and got lynched Day 1 as Town. Thoughts on that possibility?

Last thoughts:
Emulated Sen. Caught all scum day one. Gets lynched day one. S-FM World of Music.

This game I took a page from MS for like ten minutes. Then proceeded with my usual

[Calix]

Exception for Iced. Okay back to work.

Why are you voting with your scum-read?

Why does the fact that Iced is voting for NU not give you pause with your reads?

[TheDarkestLight]

Why are you voting with your scum-read?

Why does the fact that Iced is voting for NU not give you pause with your reads?

Obviously cause Iced is voting for someone voting him.

I almost want to go into conspiracy theory mode and say they seem to have a connection, but not sure if that's the case.

[Spruance]

TDL - secondpassing is scummy or just plain bad, either way we should lynch him.

You're not helping yourself TDL!

[Calix]

TDL - secondpassing is scummy or just plain bad, either way we should lynch him.

You're not helping yourself TDL!

Before you continue attacking SP's accusers, why do you town-read him again?

[TheDarkestLight]

TDL - secondpassing is scummy or just plain bad, either way we should lynch him.

You're not helping yourself TDL!

K. It's unfortunate because the "scummy or bad" thing can literally be applied to almost every scum read that's ever existed.

[Spruance]

Before you continue attacking SP's accusers, why do you town-read him again?

Because he didn't fail his drug test rofl

[Calix]

Because he didn't fail his drug test rofl

Talking to you makes me understand why mothers drown their children.

[secondpassing]

Why are you voting with your scum-read?

Why does the fact that Iced is voting for NU not give you pause with your reads?

Didn't consider it.

Something else is giving me pause right now. Though I will take it up with someone else. I will tell you if it is resolved.

[Calix]

Didn't consider it.

Something else is giving me pause right now. Though I will take it up with someone else. I will tell you if it is resolved.

wut

I am too tired for this cryptic nonsense around your READS, of all things.

[secondpassing]

wut

I am too tired for this cryptic nonsense around your READS, of all things.

You don't need to understand this post. In fact, I probably shouldn't have posted it.

You'll get a second reply regardless.

[Calix]

You don't need to understand this post. In fact, I probably shouldn't have posted it.

You'll get a second reply regardless.

Well wouldn't we know if you 'took it up with someone else' as it would be in the thread...?

There is literally no reason to be evasive about the details of your Iced/ NU read...of which you have not told us about.

[Calix]

You are being weirdly secretive over reads in a setup where there is no benefit to doing so.

[secondpassing]

Well wouldn't we know if you 'took it up with someone else' as it would be in the thread...?

There is literally no reason to be evasive about the details of your Iced/ NU read...of which you have not told us about.

Okay fine. I sent the host a question, and I shouldn't have made a post about it. I'm waiting until he answers my question.

You act like my read on Iced is special. Its not. He posted after I went to bed. I woke up, read his post, and passed judgment upon it.

[secondpassing]

So the game revolves around you? Christ. You think all the scum will out themselves by all simultaneously pushing you? How fucking self centered can you get?

This game is revolving around me right now, I'm the center of discussion. If you think the scrum won't out themselves by simultaneously pushing me, where are they?

Anything else to add about the thread?

[Calix]

Okay fine. I sent the host a question, and I shouldn't have made a post about it. I'm waiting until he answers my question.

You act like my read on Iced is special. Its not. He posted after I went to bed. I woke up, read his post, and passed judgment upon it.

So how does that question relate to anything about your reads then? It's a vanilla setup.

I asked why Iced voting for NU wasn't giving you pause. You responded by saying that something else was - that clearly has some link with your Iced read because why would you bring it up in your answer otherwise?

This game is revolving around me right now, I'm the center of discussion. If you think the scrum won't out themselves by simultaneously pushing me, where are they?

Anything else to add about the thread?

Today in 'that's not how that works'

Scum do not all act like robots who push the exact same players, nor are they prone to hogging the spotlight just so they can lynch one player, especially on Day 1.

Try again.

[TheDarkestLight]

This game is revolving around me right now, I'm the center of discussion. If you think the scrum won't out themselves by simultaneously pushing me, where are they?

Anything else to add about the thread?

... Holy fuck. Even if you were focus of the discussion you really think the Mafia would all fucking scumread you and reveal themselves?

[secondpassing]

... Holy fuck. Even if you were focus of the discussion you really think the Mafia would all fucking scumread you and reveal themselves?

Considering how long, on average, I am alive in mafia games: yes.

Answer to the second question?

[Calix]

SP, are you at a computer yet? Are you working on that response of yours?

I want to sleep so if you are, get a move on, thx

[TheDarkestLight]

Considering how long, on average, I am alive in mafia games: yes.

Answer to the second question?

The second question is irrelevant at the moment since you are the current focus of discussion. I am though, interested in your affiliation with Iced. It's perhaps pushing it but it seems like a possible connection there.

And... that assumes the scum think you're some super high priority target that must be taken out asap.

Sorry, but I don't think anyone here thinks you are that level of player.

[Never Unlucky]

Your entire argument is based off of NAI stuff, and then you try to turn it against me.

Those weren't points I was making on SP, those were points criticizing his last post. My case on SP is not based on NAI stuff.

OMGUS isn't something only scum does, I literally did this last game. We aren't the same people, but my point is you are relying on textbook ideas and making it seem scummy.

I didn't say that OMGUS voting made SP scum necessarily. I said that the fact that he bases his reads on others' reads makes him appear scummy.

Throwing shade is NAI, it's a personality thing.

Throwing shade is AI. zzz

That's just a massive discredit.

Oh, so you agree that 'Lurking = scum', 'Effort = Town', 'happy = town' and 'posting = town'? Probably not.
Yes, it is a discredit. A very needed one.

NU, I don't know why you are so desperate to get an early lynch. You are trying too hard to be the best, and it honestly just works against you.

You've seen me being desperate in previous games (IC and Politico). I am nowhere near this state of mind, I do not understand where you're coming from with this affirmation. I'm also not supporting an early lynch, obviously.

Err, I'm not sure how my posts make you think that I'm trying the best. LMAO XD, sorry.

[Never Unlucky]

Spruance's too-early-to-matter reads list

Marginalizing your own reads. Politicoscum!NeverUnlucky says hi.

TOWN
Spruance
DarknessB
secondpassing
Unknown1234

LESS TOWN
Mesk514
Eggy

DAY 1 LYNCH POOL
TheDarkestLight
Never Unlucky
Calix
Iced_Monopoly

gg 2 ez

Explain your position on SP and myself.

I don't see that ever happening so I just type out my observations and vote who I think is mafia lol.


You haven't been leading as much as you usually do. Also you really only put pressure on secondpassing.

Calix hasn't put pressure on SP, but k.

Funny enough, Spruance's list for lynches is the same as mine right now.

You suddenly scum-read TDL! Waouh-ya!

Why? Because he had an interaction with you?

I suppose you now town-read Spruance too seeing as he town-reads you.

I can't remember why Spruance said TDL was scum. I would now be willing to lynch TDL based on coming back and posting very little.

The only bit he did post was the shade he threw onto me.

As I, DB and Calix said -- Contribution =/= Alignment.

I read Calix as scum for the obvious support of Never Unlucky.

"Something something makes strong points against sp. Town." -- as said by Calix.

You mean because she supports the case I made on you, right?

Talking to you makes me understand why mothers drown their children.

Booooo...

[Never Unlucky]

1. Calix
2. DarknessB
3. Eggy
4. Iced_Monopoly
5. Mesk514
6. Never Unlucky
7. Spruance
8. TheDarkestLight
9. Unknown1234
10. secondpassing

1. Typical Calix, nothing pinged me weird. Nothing to add.

Spoiler : ;_; :

Calix, please don't call others 'hun'. I want this to be my exclusive special name ;_;

2. Logical posts made in an attempt to scum-hunt/pressure. However, DB's tone feels distant/neutral. His posts feel objective and lack opinion IMO. He hasn't given his reads on SP with whom he's had a substantial interaction.
His tone in IC felt way more engaged -- maybe it's because Spruance had shot him, and he got salty. If not, perhaps he's being a cautious town. Either way, I'm keeping a reserve on my DB read.

3. It's purely gut. I tend to read Eggy correctly, and I do not feel like he's scum this time around from the few posts he's made. He could be trying to evade conversation with me so that I cannot read him, but I doubt this because he voted me in RVS.

4. Really disliked how he suggested a policy lynch ~6 hours into the game. As I said, that's most likely what scum would want to do this game -- lynch someone and call it a PL. I'm also questioning his motives to put me at L-2. No one on my train made a case on me, so his vote is pretty suspicious.

5. Pretty much what everyone said about her -- Didn't soft-claim, didn't claim being town.
I also pointed out that her pre-defense looked like the typical scum pre-defense. This is one of the scum-tells that never lies.

6. /

7. Purely based on meta since his posts are garbage. In Politico, a game in which he was scum, he was always acting defensive and he cared. So far he hasn't done that.

8. His latest post, in my eyes, didn't bring anything new on the table. I have the feeling that he's sheeping the leading trend.

9. LMAO XD, sorry. Really don't have a read on him yet.

10.

Spoiler : ... :

Lazy. Read my other posts.

I don't like that TDL's vote is on him.
Possibility of being a (very) stupid town?

[TheDarkestLight]

1. Calix
2. DarknessB
3. Eggy
4. Iced_Monopoly
5. Mesk514
6. Never Unlucky
7. Spruance
8. TheDarkestLight
9. Unknown1234
10. secondpassing

1. Typical Calix, nothing pinged me weird. Nothing to add.

Spoiler : ;_; :

Calix, please don't call others 'hun'. I want this to be my exclusive special name ;_;

2. Logical posts made in an attempt to scum-hunt/pressure. However, DB's tone feels distant/neutral. His posts feel objective and lack opinion IMO. He hasn't given his reads on SP with whom he's had a substantial interaction.
His tone in IC felt way more engaged -- maybe it's because Spruance had shot him, and he got salty. If not, perhaps he's being a cautious town. Either way, I'm keeping a reserve on my DB read.

3. It's purely gut. I tend to read Eggy correctly, and I do not feel like he's scum this time around from the few posts he's made. He could be trying to evade conversation with me so that I cannot read him, but I doubt this because he voted me in RVS.

4. Really disliked how he suggested a policy lynch ~6 hours into the game. As I said, that's most likely what scum would want to do this game -- lynch someone and call it a PL. I'm also questioning his motives to put me at L-2. No one on my train made a case on me, so his vote is pretty suspicious.

5. Pretty much what everyone said about her -- Didn't soft-claim, didn't claim being town.
I also pointed out that her pre-defense looked like the typical scum pre-defense. This is one of the scum-tells that never lies.

6. /

7. Purely based on meta since his posts are garbage. In Politico, a game in which he was scum, he was always acting defensive and he cared. So far he hasn't done that.

8. His latest post, in my eyes, didn't bring anything new on the table. I have the feeling that he's sheeping the leading trend.

9. LMAO XD, sorry. Really don't have a read on him yet.

10.

Spoiler : ... :

Lazy. Read my other posts.

I don't like that TDL's vote is on him.
Possibility of being a (very) stupid town?

If nothing strikes you as weird about Calix why town read her? Wouldn't Null be more accurate?

Spruance is fucking 100% town in your eyes? What? You even openly admit it to be meta.

And... I haven't added anything new? Alright then. Nice to know you are skimming.

I also like how you seem to think I'm teamed with SP. Care to explain to me how that works?

[Mesk514]

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I don't know why everyones on this meta train, Eggy clearly voted me based on personal spite. do you not see those apologizes?
do you not see that there's literally no explanation besides, "i'm like 99.9% sure"

Spruance's vote came with no explanation, i think i dunno it's hard to think at the moment.

courtesy of iced monopoly i got a comic that represents this exact game... so go fuck yourselves

Never Unlucky, stop kissing Calix's ass please.

anyways, nap time... bye

[secondpassing]

/unsign

Yes, my issue with the host is resolved.

I hereby rescind my vote on Never Unlucky until I can more fully comprehend what this means.

Context of the quote: sign-up thread for the other S-FM. He quotes signs 9. Spruance 10. Slayer and.... All the way at the bottom of the list, reserve 1. secondpassing.

If he thinks I am trash tier scum, I think he would have been elated in having caught the scum game one. That or he thinks that I am that bad.

But I have a feeling it is not the above, and that he is frustrated at me. You basically only get frustrated with town players or town that won't listen to you.

Which means, down under, he probably thinks I'm town, can't explain it in his terms why a town player would play like me, and concluded that I was scum.

(look man, I'm was wrong to call you a noob, I could have used a different term in addressing you.)

-vote deathworlds

FoS on Calix while I contemplate

[mod]Note: This post was originally posted in an incorrect thread and was moved to its correct location about 40 minutes after the fact

-MattZed[/mod]

[secondpassing]

Shootdid that not post?

[TheDarkestLight]

Shootdid that not post?

You put it in the sign up thread for the other game.

[Calix]

Yes, my issue with the host is resolved.

I hereby rescind my vote on Never Unlucky until I can more fully comprehend what this means.

Context of the quote: sign-up thread for the other S-FM. He quotes signs 9. Spruance 10. Slayer and.... All the way at the bottom of the list, reserve 1. secondpassing.

If he thinks I am trash tier scum, I think he would have been elated in having caught the scum game one. That or he thinks that I am that bad.

But I have a feeling it is not the above, and that he is frustrated at me. You basically only get frustrated with town players or town that won't listen to you.

Which means, down under, he probably thinks I'm town, can't explain it in his terms why a town player would play like me, and concluded that I was scum.

(look man, I'm was wrong to call you a noob, I could have used a different term in addressing you.)

-vote deathworlds

FoS on Calix while I contemplate

NU unsigned because I hadn't signed.

Not that you should need to know this to realise how ridiculous USING SIGN UP THREADS TO READ PLAYERS IS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

The fact that every single read you make somehow relates back to how other people treat you is insanely self-centred.

If you think I'm scum, try voting me instead of just waving your 'FOS' around. Do you even have a read on me outside of "town-read NU"?

[Never Unlucky]

If nothing strikes you as weird about Calix why town read her? Wouldn't Null be more accurate?

She didn't slip, she's playing the Calix town game... Why would null be more accurate? I don't think I understand where you're coming from.

Spruance is fucking 100% town in your eyes? What? You even openly admit it to be meta.

No, of course he's not 100% town in my eyes. I read him not scum, I am not saying anyone is 100% town in my reads. He won't ever post something substantial, so the only way I had of reading him was with meta. Basically if he's not obvious scum, he's town for me.

And... I haven't added anything new? Alright then. Nice to know you are skimming.

Granted, I exaggerated when I wrote 'anything'. My points stand though.

And no, I didn't skim your posts. I read them from A to Z. I only skim Kovath's posts (when he's in the game) because I find his writing style annoyingly nerdy.

I also like how you seem to think I'm teamed with SP. Care to explain to me how that works?

No, I don't think you are in a team with SP, hence why I don't like that your vote is on him. I lean-scum-read both of you, so your vote on him is clouding my reads.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Given the topic being discussed is your vote, let's go back to your explanation for it:

Question. Why do you feel that lynching a heavily-discussed "not scum" lean is the most attractive option right now? I can't get over voting for someone that you do not actually scum-read, preferring to vote for the next viable train instead of voting/ lobbying for a train for one of your stated scum-reads. (which would also generate information) It's barely 12 hours into the day so time is not a concern.

Because at the time, the alternative train was on SP, which I was reading as town. There was time to go for multiple trains and see how people reacted to them, so it was best to make a start on one of the bigger ones, other trains could be moved to later.

However you choose to take these posts is up to you, but I know that scum!Iced_Monopoly has done this several times where he needs to post he is here but actually doesn't cover much. Like I said, I really wanted an overall opinion and I think these posts reflect more from a scum then a town.

You need to stop with the misrep. Not only did you ignore the post that i @mentioned you in initially refuting your point, but you then proceeded to ignore me all together until calix had to bring up your train of thought twice before you realised you needed to make a reply. I also questioned you the first time as to what all these times have been where ive gone into scum lurk mode, and you failed to respond, yet you continue to push this as meta reasoning. Not only have a played few scum games, but ive never lurked as scum. The only game you could possibly be referring to is WoM, where on the third day I dissapeared for a period of around 24hrs, which I explained in that game I was legitimately not around for, I was not at home, and not in a position to be posting on my phone, did that cost me the game? Probably, but you conveniently forgot that for the first two days of that game, it was my trains and my pushes that were lynched. A scum flying under the radar would not have driven two succesful mislynches in the opening of the game. So now reflecting on what has happened this game; What I did at the start of the game was courtesy, I was on for brief periods of time where I was able to read a 1/2 page, or sometimes a full page before leaving again, Instead of just letting my name pop up in the 'on this thread feed', I wanted my fellow players to know that I was indeed reading, and would be posting when possible, instead of not giving a fuck about the game and going lurker mode. Everyone else understood that, except you, because youre attempting to build a flimsy fucking (false) meta case against me.

Which brings me back to calixs point on you not having a vote, which is the scummiest thing thats pinging me so far. If you in any way believed I was scum based on my oh so obvious and totally legit meta, then you wouldve dropped a vote on me, but no, you havent, because you dont want to be flip flopping votes around this whole day looking like you just want to get a lynch off, and you dont want to be analysed if you avoid putting a lynch on a teammate, instead youre setting up these shitty points so that after a train already builds on me (or anyone else you misrepped), you can jump onto it at any time and claim 'oh well i was already scum reading them earlier, remember? so its cool that im here now, not sus at all' and get away with a mislynch. That right there is some scummy shit, and im now going to go back and determine if youre a better lynch candidate than NU.

Also welcome Spruance, and if NU and SP could stop tunneling on eachother, that'd be great.

[Never Unlucky]

NU unsigned because I hadn't signed.

Not that you should need to know this to realise how ridiculous USING SIGN UP THREADS TO READ PLAYERS IS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

The fact that every single read you make somehow relates back to how other people treat you is insanely self-centred.

If you think I'm scum, try voting me instead of just waving your 'FOS' around. Do you even have a read on me outside of "town-read NU"?

Where the fuck did you find this quote?

[Calix]

Because at the time, the alternative train was on SP, which I was reading as town. There was time to go for multiple trains and see how people reacted to them, so it was best to make a start on one of the bigger ones, other trains could be moved to later.

And your current thoughts on the NU/ SP thing are?

I'm assuming you're going to get to that though.

You need to stop with the misrep. Not only did you ignore the post that i @mentioned you in initially refuting your point, but you then proceeded to ignore me all together until calix had to bring up your train of thought twice before you realised you needed to make a reply.

Which train of thought do you refer to again?

I also questioned you the first time as to what all these times have been where ive gone into scum lurk mode, and you failed to respond, yet you continue to push this as meta reasoning. Not only have a played few scum games, but ive never lurked as scum.

I think you lurked as scum in PM 2.0. That's just a technical point though as Unknown hasn't read that game.

What I did at the start of the game was courtesy, I was on for brief periods of time where I was able to read a 1/2 page, or sometimes a full page before leaving again, Instead of just letting my name pop up in the 'on this thread feed', I wanted my fellow players to know that I was indeed reading, and would be posting when possible, instead of not giving a fuck about the game and going lurker mode. Everyone else understood that, except you, because youre attempting to build a flimsy fucking (false) meta case against me.

Unknown's point is indeed shitty and has no bearing on your alignment, nor has he provided a solid explanation for why he found your check-in posts scummy. I find your touchy response to be more interesting, however. Instead of shrugging it off, you went out of your way to defend yourself against this flimsy-ass accusation.

In general, you come across as defensive in your response. I wouldn't consider it a scum tell taken as it is but as an emotional response it's something I wouldn't expect from you.

Question. If Unknown's lack of a vote is the scummiest thing he's done, why didn't you mention it yourself earlier? Unless you are saying that I brought it to your attention, that part didn't make much sense to me.

[Calix]

Where the fuck did you find this quote?

The sign-up thread, lmao

[MattZed]

I would like to remind you all to make sure you are posting in the correct thread while playing Forum Mafia.

If you see another post out of place, report it so the FM staff can move it to the correct thread.

-FM Staff

[Never Unlucky]

[...]That right there is some scummy shit, and im now going to go back and determine if youre a better lynch candidate than NU.

Why was I a lynch candidate for you? Only for information + association?

The sign-up thread, lmao

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[Iced_Monopoly]

And your current thoughts on the NU/ SP thing are?

I'm assuming you're going to get to that though.

I will, im currently following another thought atm that im posting soon.

Which train of thought do you refer to again?

your posts where you had to repeatedly ask how it was AI on mine and TDLs post, and then just mine.

Unknown's point is indeed shitty and has no bearing on your alignment, nor has he provided a solid explanation for why he found your check-in posts scummy. I find your touchy response to be more interesting, however. Instead of shrugging it off, you went out of your way to defend yourself against this flimsy-ass accusation.

In general, you come across as defensive in your response. I wouldn't consider it a scum tell taken as it is but as an emotional response it's something I wouldn't expect from you.

Question. If Unknown's lack of a vote is the scummiest thing he's done, why didn't you mention it yourself earlier? Unless you are saying that I brought it to your attention, that part didn't make much sense to me.

I had shrugged it off until he continued to attempt to paint me as scum based on those points, and I could see him coming back to jump on a train on me by citing his continued bs here, so I wanted it stamped out for good. Slight emotion because dealing with blatant stupidity hurts.

It wasnt initially scummy to me until he continued to push the agenda, at which point you called out his lack of vote. This was going down in the wee hours of the morning for me, so I was asleep.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Why was I a lynch candidate for you? Only for information + association?

And the fact that I wasnt reading you as town.

[Eggy]

He called me 'very good' this game, yet he called me 'so bad' 19 hours ago:

Right now I think and am fairly sure he's town.





:P

Whoaaa I didnt call u very good lol pretty sure I said the opposite if I didnt it was a typo 😂😂 why on earth would ai call you very good? Especially this game lol?

[Eggy]

I hate to burst your bubble, but that was most likely another typo

Yup obviously lol

[Never Unlucky]

And the fact that I wasnt reading you as town.

Fair enough.

Whoaaa I didnt call u very good lol pretty sure I said the opposite if I didnt it was a typo 😂😂 why on earth would ai call you very good? Especially this game lol?

I dont have a grudge with NU? I just think he is very good and this game I find him scummy for the reasons ive stated. From what i've seen day one slips are not really that much of a thing and
are usually used by scum to push a mislynch. Like what happened in instant mafia. I have no hard feelings towards NU I just dont like his playstyle. He has a way of discrediting things that strikes me as anti town

Ha.

@MattZed @deathworlds Is it possible to re-post the comment SP made in the sign up thread? I would like to reply to it.

[Calix]

I had shrugged it off until he continued to attempt to paint me as scum based on those points, and I could see him coming back to jump on a train on me by citing his continued bs here, so I wanted it stamped out for good. Slight emotion because dealing with blatant stupidity hurts.

It wasnt initially scummy to me until he continued to push the agenda, at which point you called out his lack of vote. This was going down in the wee hours of the morning for me, so I was asleep.

Being obstructive with votes in a game where VCA is one of the few tools that town has = anti-town at the very least. Typically suggests that you have no avenues to pursue; something which doesn't apply with Unknown. In that sense, his scum-read on you comes across as insincere because he is unwilling, for whatever reason, to back this up with a vote.

I don't town-read either of you so I expect your in-depth interactions with each other to be revealing.

So being around you 24/7 must be like living in Hell, eh? ;)

And the fact that I wasnt reading you as town.

Okay I'm going to actually read the chat and find the posts but I'm pretty sure you said you couldn't find a compelling scum narrative for him and whatnot so want to see if this is consistent or not.