S-FM Matrix6 (Beginners Game)

[Unknown1234]

Thank you, that's the reason my vote isn't on Sino right now. We should wait and see what Panda has to say, we have a little less than 24 hours to go and there is no reason to rush this.

Also it's worth mentioning this is the second time Unknown1234 sets someone up for hammer time in the middle of the day without saying anything and waiting for input from AFKers. The first time being Mesk514 on Day 1 before thedougler even posted anything other than his RQS

I did say something about why i am voting Powers, its just farther up.

As it looks like this is a stalemate position, i have had to rethink my plans. I was originally starting to believe Powers, that he may actually be town and just messed up with the lynch on Veri. It's just one thing that does not make sense to me. If Sino is scum, then who the hell is partner? I've looked through lots of pages, and i cannot seem to find someone that has been by his side except me (Makes me look bad), so in reality it makes it harder for me to vote him because dougler sticks up right by your side, its almost like hes failing being scum with you.

[Mesk514]

Also it's worth mentioning this is the second time Unknown1234 sets someone up for hammer time in the middle of the day without saying anything and waiting for input from AFKers. The first time being Mesk514 on Day 1 before thedougler even posted anything other than his RQS

I just want it to be known i was the first to vote powers

[Renata]

I did say something about why i am voting Powers, its just farther up.

That's fine, but he was already at L-2 when you voted him. So Panda or someone else could just come back and hammer him before saying anything and end the day, of course anyone doing that would look extremely scummy.

[Mesk514]

That's fine, but he was already at L-2 when you voted him. So Panda or someone else could just come back and hammer him before saying anything and end the day, of course anyone doing that would look extremely scummy.

of course, but I would just like to add it was Panda who stuck the hammer to veri. Although she was pressed for me, I know I am town, so to me it kind of looks like she was dancing between 2 towns.... but I'm also compelled to think she's town as well.

[PowersThatBe]

I have a hard time believing that to be honest. I don't see their scummy behaviors together.

THEN YOU AREN'T READING or just disregarding HOW both of them fall into several categories of logical arguments as created by Helz and very good Mafia player. Pretty much they fit into almost every single scum tactic tell.

[Unknown1234]

That's fine, but he was already at L-2 when you voted him. So Panda or someone else could just come back and hammer him before saying anything and end the day, of course anyone doing that would look extremely scummy.

You will always risk having a hammer, just because i decided later does not mean i shouldn't vote. Besides, dougler is voting with Power and Panda hasn't said a word all day. It was basically up to you if u wanted to vote.

[Unknown1234]

THEN YOU AREN'T READING or just disregarding HOW both of them fall into several categories of logical arguments as created by Helz and very good Mafia player. Pretty much they fit into almost every single scum tactic tell.

I'm sure if we put our mind to it, all of us could fit into most of those. Maybe not. Maybe i am stupid, but if you are town and you get lynched, then vote Sino, me, or Mesk. Unless we somehow mess up the next two votes, it really comes down to getting one solid vote down.

[Unknown1234]

That's fine, but he was already at L-2 when you voted him. So Panda or someone else could just come back and hammer him before saying anything and end the day, of course anyone doing that would look extremely scummy.

And i completely agree with this point, but you cannot avoid the second last point. The difference is when he needed one vote, i did not vote. I know that my first vote was a mistake, i pointed it out, so i decided not to fuck it up again.

[Unknown1234]

i mean vote, not point*

[Mesk514]

Hope you killas understand me

Hey
Panda, Panda
Panda, Panda, Panda, Panda, Panda, Panda, Panda, Panda

where you at though @Panda

[Panda]

sorry let me read back....

[Renata]

of course, but I would just like to add it was Panda who stuck the hammer to veri. Although she was pressed for me, I know I am town, so to me it kind of looks like she was dancing between 2 towns.... but I'm also compelled to think she's town as well.

Panda hammered to make sure we had a lynch, which most of us wanted even though she was reluctant. The only other person who could have hammered was Goastse, Unknown1234 and Sino sure as hell were not going to do it.

You will always risk having a hammer, just because i decided later does not mean i shouldn't vote. Besides, dougler is voting with Power and Panda hasn't said a word all day. It was basically up to you if u wanted to vote.

And I'm inclined to vote Sino with both Power and thedougler but I didn't want to risk a hammer, by not voting right now Sino needs 2 other people to vote him instead of just one making it harder for him to be lynched this early.

[PowersThatBe]

And i completely agree with this point, but you cannot avoid the second last point. The difference is when he needed one vote, i did not vote. I know that my first vote was a mistake, i pointed it out, so i decided not to fuck it up again.

When mesk needed 1 vote, I unvoted him. NOT YOU.

You set me up to be hammered and Mesk unvoted me.

Stop trying to make it seem like you saved anyone. TBH, I'm going back with my original thought that it's probably unknown and Sino.

[Mesk514]

Hey Panda, just curious...

Do you have broads in Atlanta?

[PowersThatBe]

her*

[PowersThatBe]

Unknowns vote on me is pretty much the scummiest thing ever.

I assume that maybe Unknown was setting up for his teammate to lynch me.

Maybe I'm wrong, but Unkown has only ever focused on me.

[PowersThatBe]

and mesk

[Unknown1234]

and mesk

Sometimes i think your trying to be ignorant to get people against me. "and mesk" i never 'focused' on mesk, i voted her and then i decided not to. You look at ME as if i'm committing a crime by being the second last vote. I don't feel worried by a hammer because if someone DOES hammer (who would?) then it just makes it look bad on whoever does it. As for my vote, i believe Sino, so i am sticking with my vote.

[PowersThatBe]

Sometimes i think your trying to be ignorant to get people against me. "and mesk" i never 'focused' on mesk, i voted her and then i decided not to. You look at ME as if i'm committing a crime by being the second last vote. I don't feel worried by a hammer because if someone DOES hammer (who would?) then it just makes it look bad on whoever does it. As for my vote, i believe Sino, so i am sticking with my vote.

Why do you believe Sino. What about him makes you think he's town? He was focused on by Goate and now goat is dead.

Goat focused you and now he's dead.

You only focus on me. You voted on Mesk until I took us off from the hammer.

You voted me and Mesk brought potential hammer away from me.

Do you not fear the hammer because you're mafia?

I'll put it this way, I've been focused today because of a mislynch. Clearly. the mafia would focus me. To get rid of a loud mouth day 2 so they can kill another town n2.

if you're town and you don't understand that, let's just pack it up now and lynch me.

Unknown, I am the biggest town here. And you know what I'm over this.

I'm detective, Sino made no night actions last night. So he's either citizen or his teammate is the killing role.

I'm detective there are two mafiosos. There is no consort. There is no sheriff. This is why I pressed mesk. She seemed to have knowledge that only I and the mafia would have.

Whether that makes her guilty, IDK. The way Sino is pushing the lynch on me and the way mesk fell in line with that is just too suspicious to me.

Unknown pressing some buttons and disappearing is also suspicious to me.

Oh well. This game was fun, but is taking up too much of my time. Vote me or vote Sino, but let's move this along so I can die n2 pls.

TY.

[PowersThatBe]

based on Sino's actions today. i am 100% sure he's mafia.

[Unknown1234]

-unvote

[Unknown1234]

Nothing against you, but to be sure, i want to hear from Renata and Panda that they are not Detective.

[Mesk514]

I'm detective

This was my exact fear!!!!


and for that reason I will be re evaluating my opinions & I apologize to @PowersThatBe

unless someone counters that is....

[Mesk514]

@power ThatBe , If you are detective you should be able to at least claim one other person as town. Unless you visited Sino last night and you're not telling us.

[Unknown1234]

@power ThatBe , If you are detective you should be able to at least claim one other person as town. Unless you visited Sino last night and you're not telling us.

Mesk, he just said that.

[Mesk514]

oops, sorry!! I got all excited that he claimed detective.

[PowersThatBe]

No one is going to counter claim me. If they do they're lying. And they will be found out when I die.

So really waiting for a counter claim would be stupid.

Also, if I was lying, the real detective would never reveal themselves because they would be hit n2 and never found out.

Declaring your role as a town power is a last ditch effort. TBH. I don't have the patience to deal with the stupidity of this game anymore.

The ones who are making smart choices are afk most of the game.

I didn't expect forum mafia to be 30% of the game participating and the other 70% doing nothing.

Vote me or Sino but let's just get it over it.

[Mesk514]

based on Sino's actions today. i am 100% sure he's mafia.

I must say I do agree, especially since he falls in line my theory about white knighting.... Although I did say not lynching day1 was pro town in my opinion, he could be white knighting on the fact that he didn't vote @Veri

[PowersThatBe]

they would be hit n2 and never be able to find out*

[Mesk514]

Vote me or Sino but let's just get it over it.

WHERE'S PANDA?

[Unknown1234]

-vote Sino

[Unknown1234]

WHERE'S PANDA?

Panda Vacated

[Mesk514]

if panda doesn't respond in the next 15 minutes, I'll put the hammer to Sino's head.

[Unknown1234]

if panda doesn't respond in the next 15 minutes, I'll put the hammer to Sino's head.

Never really wanted to vote Sino, but we shall see...

[Mesk514]

@PowersThatBe , If Sino flips town, I highly suggest you check someone who's been AFK.... that would be my go to, but you can check me too... I have nothing to hide...

[Mesk514]

Never really wanted to vote Sino, but we shall see...

Neither did I, I was very dead set about PowersThatBe, but again I did have that fear he would be a town with a special role.

[Mesk514]

Plus, I'm also being accused of being his cohort, so who not better to stick the hammer to his head besides his accused cohort?

[Unknown1234]

Plus, I'm also being accused of being his cohort, so who not better to stick the hammer to his head besides his accused cohort?

Same! were in it together! (but not actually cuz then we get accused of being teammates)

[PowersThatBe]

Even if sino flips town, and I am killed. We will at least have 3 town. Day 3 I'm sure the remaining town will be able to get the evils. Then we have it narrowed down. Risky, but the way Sino has been acting...

[Unknown1234]

if Sino is somehow scum......... R.I.P me.

[Mesk514]

Jeez, I want to get this over with...but.... @Panda ? @Renata ?

[PowersThatBe]

Jeez, I want to get this over with...but.... @Panda ? @Renata ?

Why are you stalling?

[Mesk514]

Why are you stalling?

It's not stalling it's called being considerate....but since I said I would do it I will

-vote Sino

[The Godfather]

Sino has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


Sino (4 [L-0]): Mesk514, thedougler, PowersThatBe, Unknown1234
PowersThatBe (1 [L-3]): Sino

[SuperJack]

Night Two

Setup

Sino was Lynched. He was a Citizen. He left no last will.

Night 2 Ends in 24 Hours.

Players	Roles
Veri PowersThatBe thedougler Sino GoatseOntheCupboard Mesk514 Renata Panda Unknown1234	Mafia Mafia Citizen Doctor Citizen Town Town Town Town

[SuperJack]

Day Three

Setup

PowersThatBe was Killed. He was a Detective. He left last will:

Spoiler : LastWill of PowersThatBe :

Friends.

I must apologize and reveal my strategy. I have never played forum mafia...and the depth required, and not required is perplexing at times. However, let me explain.

I knew, that if I randomly lynched two days. I could hit a target or I could kill two town. At this point, Mesk and Unknown probably trust each other...and I trust them.

Things I didn't know were actually scum behavior. Afking for a long time. Coming in at the beginning, a spot at the middle, and at the very end to secure mislynch's.

We had both the dougler and Panda do both .

Renata as well.

I followed doug tonight, and if it I don't die, I am confident he is the mafia.

He straight up Palpatined me. Came in second voted veri, and peaced out, and allowed his teammate to secure the vote. (renata or panda). I lean more towards renata, but panda's extreme silence day 2 and "I'll catch up" and never coming back before the lynch just shows me that Panda and Dougler are evil. Doug for sure.

DONT FORGET HE CAME IN SAID: " I KNEW YOU SCUM WOULD DO THIS AT SINO, AND THEN FIRST VOTED HIM. All but reassuring me that sino was evil." Doug told me everything I wanted and needed to hear.

Now that we have a laser focus, it's up to the rest of you to figure this out. 3rd town trust mesk and unknown.

If some how I'm alive, then we'll assess what doug did at night.

"the more town someone acts the scummier they are." Was my philosophy. Mesk and Unknown are clean because they defended Sino, worked with him, and eventually flipped to my side when I claimed my role. Also their post counts are too high.

It's really between renata and panda at this point.

Lynch doug tomorrow nmw. He played me like a fiddle and it's time the string broke.

Day 3 Ends in 48 Hours.

Players	Roles
Veri PowersThatBe thedougler Sino GoatseOntheCupboard Mesk514 Renata Panda Unknown1234	Mafia Mafia Citizen Doctor Citizen Detective Town Town Town

[SuperJack]

Would also like to let you all know that another Forum Mafia game is open for signups!
Have a look here and check out the link there. ^^ It's open to anyone.

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...-Mini-Sign-Ups

[Panda]

Can we please lynch Mesk and Unkbown and be done with this. I keep forgetting I'm involved in this.

[Unknown1234]

Can we please lynch Mesk and Unkbown and be done with this. I keep forgetting I'm involved in this.

Why do you go there so quickly? That's a bad plan.

[thedougler]

Things are NOT looking good, and town can't afford another mislynch. I'm sad that @PowersThatBe misread me so badly, and deeply wish he had lived to clear my name today. But we can’t waste what little time we have discussing might-have-beens. We need to move on from his mistakes and examine things as impartially as possible. Let’s all together have a look at how past votes have gone:

D1 Lynch:
Veri (5 [L-0]): Renata, PowersThatBe, Mesk514, thedougler, Panda
Mesk514 (2 [L-3]): GoatseOntheCupboard, Veri
Renata (1 [L-4]): Sino

D2 Lynch:
Sino (4 [L-0]): Mesk514, thedougler, PowersThatBe, Unknown1234
PowersThatBe (1 [L-3]): Sino

The common denominators here across both votes are the following pairs: me and PowersThatBe, me and @Mesk514 , and PowersThatBe with Mesk514. Because I know I am town, and I know that PowersThatBe was town, I can be reasonably safe in saying that Mesk514 wasn’t acting in open collusion with anyone.

Of course, this means very little to you all. You can’t see my role, and therefore have no way of knowing that Mesk and I haven’t been cooperating all along. I would just like to assert from my own vantage point, however, that the scum have not been voting en bloc across both votes. That doesn’t rule out collusion between those who voted for Sino yesterday, but it’s worth noting nonetheless.

Also of note were the two who gave the hammer votes on days 1&2: @Panda and @Unknown1234 . I think these two have a lot to answer for, especially given Unknown’s extreme reticence on D1 and Panda’s absence on D2 when his judgement and voting might have swayed us. I'm not casting open suspicion yet, but I would like to hear from both of them ASAP if town is going to stand any chance at all.