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  1. ISO #601
    Ganelon
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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: 20 Years Ago

    also @Kenny when you get here lmk what your opinion on cross-reality gameplay is.

    why do you think it's scummy to mix up the two realities? besides the obvious

  2. ISO #602
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: 20 Years Ago

    also @Mike I find you to be scummier than MM in this reality, MM is actually fairly consistent between the two realities. which suggests I was being overly paranoid/read too much into what he was doing.

  3. ISO #603
    Ganelon
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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: 20 Years Ago

    the interesting thing is that Bahkieh claimed I took no action last night. the even more interesting thing is that Yayap, who might've been bussed with me, was also roleblocked. this might be a bit of a stretch, but maybe it was scum who tried to RB me and thats why Bahkieh said I took no action last night?

  4. ISO #604

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: 20 Years Ago

    Haven't caught up yet for today at all, still have 200+ posts to read, but
    -vote Damus_Graves

    Seems like a no-brainer. Never seen a worse claim than that exe thing. This is how vote counts looked end of day 1:
    Final Vote Count:

    Ganelon (3): Mike, Kenny, The Lawyer

    Marshmallow Marshall (3): Damus_Graves, Ganelon, Yayap

    Banshis (2): Light_Yagami, Eclipse

    Damus_Graves (1): Stealthbomber16

    Yayap (1): Marshmallow Marshall

    Not Voting (3): Bahkieh, Banshis, Effekannn02

    Damus straight up wasn't pushing for a Ganelon lynch. Srsly lol.

  5. ISO #605

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: 20 Years Ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon View Post
    the interesting thing is that Bahkieh claimed I took no action last night. the even more interesting thing is that Yayap, who might've been bussed with me, was also roleblocked. this might be a bit of a stretch, but maybe it was scum who tried to RB me and thats why Bahkieh said I took no action last night?
    Order of Operations, unless otherwise specified in rolecard (stolen from Cryptonic):
    Roleblocking.
    Proactive Redirection (Ex. Witch)
    Reactive Redirection (Ex. Bus Driver)
    All Attacks.
    Heals.
    Vests.
    All Others.

    Roleblock happens before bussing happens. Yayap was roleblocked in present. Then swapped with you into past. I'm guessing Bahkieh's action takes place in All Others and just gets a record of who his target visits so Yayap was at your house when his order came up.

  6. ISO #606

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: 20 Years Ago

    Not trusting Mikey that much, from a town POV he shouldn't have listened to the exe

    the fact that he really wanted to follow a neutral is quite telling

    Secure town fortress:
    Lawyer
    Efekannn (sheeping Light)
    Aayap
    Ganelon
    Light
    MM
    Kenny


    Townish...pulled by hair like I'm not sure
    Mikey

    Who are these people?
    Stealthbomb
    Bahkieh
    Banshis

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  9. ISO #609

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: 20 Years Ago

    I'll post more about the blackmail theory when I get home but it had crossed my mind in damus' claim post. Which is why I spent soo much time arguing with him to see if he would drop the matter and lurk, which is what he should have done if blackmailed, instead he doubled down on his claim and refuses to make it disapear, my opinion is that he is not blackmailed. Has anyone tried asking him 20 yrs from now, he seems normal there so bm might not be dual reality, see what happens. Lunch break is up. Gotta go.

  10. ISO #610

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: 20 Years Ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
    Haven't caught up yet for today at all, still have 200+ posts to read, but
    -vote Damus_Graves

    Seems like a no-brainer. Never seen a worse claim than that exe thing. This is how vote counts looked end of day 1:
    Final Vote Count:

    Ganelon (3): Mike, Kenny, The Lawyer

    Marshmallow Marshall (3): Damus_Graves, Ganelon, Yayap

    Banshis (2): Light_Yagami, Eclipse

    Damus_Graves (1): Stealthbomber16

    Yayap (1): Marshmallow Marshall

    Not Voting (3): Bahkieh, Banshis, Effekannn02

    Damus straight up wasn't pushing for a Ganelon lynch. Srsly lol.
    Yea, Damus instead sheeped yayap and Ganelon on me lol. Hang 'em up high!
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: 20 Years Ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon View Post
    also @Mike I find you to be scummier than MM in this reality, MM is actually fairly consistent between the two realities. which suggests I was being overly paranoid/read too much into what he was doing.
    Noted you stoped budding me. interesting.
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  18. ISO #618

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: 20 Years Ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    Funny Thing Is About My Vigi Power.. Is That It Kills The Person In The Other Reality As Well..
    If this is true. then don't shoot wildly. because you may set up town. to lose.
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  20. ISO #620

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: 20 Years Ago

    I received feedback. anyone dead in the present I can not take into night chat. So Light please Think before you shoot. OK players not to shoot other than myself. Yayap, Eclipse, Banshis. efheckan. this are town leans. Remember we have a buss driver out there as well as a doc. I am not buss driver.
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  21. ISO #621

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: 20 Years Ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Kenny's mind!

    I never would have thought of a blackmail, this makes perfect sense!

    Don't vote for Ganelon!
    Wait, what? I mean, I agree that Damus needs to go and not ganelon in this reality, but what's the blackmail thing?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: 20 Years Ago

    @The Lawyer
    @Eclipse

    Bus Driver switches 2 people. So anyone else targeting those people (following Order of Operations), they end up targeting the other instead. So in this case, who ever targeted me in past - visited Ganelon in future (if no one else claims bus driven) and vice versa.

    Chauffeur is the same as a bus driver except with a scum alignment.

    Operator: switches 2 peoples targets. so if player 1 wanted to visit player A, and Player 2 wanted to visite Player BD -> Player 1 goes to B and 2 to A where player 1 and 2 were the operators targets.

    Escort (Consort for scum), they roleblock a player for a night preventing that player from taking night actions

    Witch overides a players target. So if there is a witch and Yagami is the vigilante as he claims, Yagami could be forced to kill who ever the witch wants. Witch is usually a scum role but has been town in some games.

    Doctor prevents death.

    Armorsmith gives a vest to someone, vests can then be used by that player to make himself immune for 1 night of his choice.

    Gunsmith gives a gun to someone. That person can then use that gun to kill someone. It usually has only 1 bullet.

    Blacksmith is a combo of armorsmith and gunsmith, he can pick which item to give.

    Vigilante is a town sided person who can night kill. Sometime can do so infinite times, sometime has a number of bullets.

    Jailor: picks a person during the day, he then has a night chat with that person at night and can choose to kill that player at the end of the night if he wants to. The person jailed is usually roleblocked and immune to other night kills but there have been different settings depending on setups.

    Architect: can invite x number of people to a night chat. Mike is claiming this role where he can invite 1 person with himself.

    Blackmailed: this is a highly complex role, in FMs lately, a person can demand that a person do certain things in day chat or face certain consequences. The host is the one who decides if that person met the demands or broke certain constraints, consequences vary as well.

    Framer: can change the results a sheriff (cop) would get.

    Investigator is what is known as a role cop on other sites. He finds out the exact role of a person. Consig is the scum variant.

    Journalist: lets someone write something into the day start RP

    Masons: town group who have a night chat. ;)

    Mason leader: can usually try to recruit citizens to become other masons.

    Mayor: can reveal in day chat and then his vote counts as more than 1 depending on host choice.

    Marshall: can make it possible to lynch more than 1 person in the same day.

    Executioner: is a neutral role who simply has to get a specific person lynched.

    I think that covers most of the roles, I'll cover more if they become apparent in the game.

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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: 20 Years Ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Who do you dislike today
    this day chat has been so dead I have no idea.
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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: 20 Years Ago

    Alright now to go back and respond to Damus' clear scum intentions again.

    1- There is 0 evidence that an Executioners target would be scum.
    2- There is 0 evidence other than Damus' word that he would win with town if we lynch Ganelon.
    3- There is 0 reason that Damus would be 100% cleared town after we lynch Ganelon. Him saying so is 100% BS.

    If there is an executioner type role in the game as Damus says, there is a much stronger possibility that he is already scum and that by lynching his target, he gets more power. This would not break the rule of being able to win with multiple alignments.

    The even more plausible option is that Damus is scum and is lying and made the whole thing up. And we can't ask Auckmid about it since he would be forced to confirm Damus' alignment.

    Damus had TMI btw, he knew that Bahkieh followed Ganelon before Bahkieh claimed detective and knew that Ganelon saying nothing happened to him wasn't what Bahkieh was actually asking, it was right after he messed up so bad that he came out with this whole exe claim. AND Bahkieh has been trying to shift the focus back to Ganelon for not taking a night action when there are plenty of TPRs that do not go anywhere at night or can't be followed by detectives: Mayor, Marshal, Journalist, Masons, Veteran come to mind. Not to mention Vigilantes who don't want to kill or any role that has a limited number of uses. So Bahkieh is clearly role hunting Ganelon.

    That being said, Ganelon has said that he did nothing. I'm ok with leaving it at that - I judge Ganelon scummy for other reasons.


    Damus/Bahkieh scum team in this reality is my read.

  38. ISO #638

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: 20 Years Ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    this day chat has been so dead I have no idea.
    sorry wrong chat.

    -vote Ganelon


    This is who I am finding scummy in this chat. but townie in present.
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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: 20 Years Ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Yayap View Post
    Alright now to go back and respond to Damus' clear scum intentions again.

    1- There is 0 evidence that an Executioners target would be scum.
    2- There is 0 evidence other than Damus' word that he would win with town if we lynch Ganelon.
    3- There is 0 reason that Damus would be 100% cleared town after we lynch Ganelon. Him saying so is 100% BS.

    If there is an executioner type role in the game as Damus says, there is a much stronger possibility that he is already scum and that by lynching his target, he gets more power. This would not break the rule of being able to win with multiple alignments.

    The even more plausible option is that Damus is scum and is lying and made the whole thing up. And we can't ask Auckmid about it since he would be forced to confirm Damus' alignment.

    Damus had TMI btw, he knew that Bahkieh followed Ganelon before Bahkieh claimed detective and knew that Ganelon saying nothing happened to him wasn't what Bahkieh was actually asking, it was right after he messed up so bad that he came out with this whole exe claim. AND Bahkieh has been trying to shift the focus back to Ganelon for not taking a night action when there are plenty of TPRs that do not go anywhere at night or can't be followed by detectives: Mayor, Marshal, Journalist, Masons, Veteran come to mind. Not to mention Vigilantes who don't want to kill or any role that has a limited number of uses. So Bahkieh is clearly role hunting Ganelon.

    That being said, Ganelon has said that he did nothing. I'm ok with leaving it at that - I judge Ganelon scummy for other reasons.


    Damus/Bahkieh scum team in this reality is my read.
    -unvote
    wow
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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: 20 Years Ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    Keep In Mind I Dont Wanna Screw Town Over But Town Needs To Start Communicating In Both Realities.. @Mike
    good point.
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