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  1. ISO #401

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    oh no this is going to become one of those things that wakes me up shivering in a cold sweat in the middle of the night in 6 months. I thought I'd moved past this.

    I'm tempted to try and end the IRL night on a better note but I think I'd just cock it up again LOL

    I'm just gonna take the L on this one.
    xD
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    I'm heading off for a while. I'm still *very* interested in hearing a defense of DM other than "if he were scum he wouldn't be this bad at it." (from MM)
    Uh, I mean, there's nothing else to it... there's literally no other reason to townread him whatsoever, since the reason is about his entire playstyle.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  2. ISO #402

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    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Matt implied that he thought Illuminati was unlikely, yet gave a reaction where it looks as if he knows it exists.

    He’s Open Wolf to me.
    I agree MZ is probably scum.
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  5. ISO #405

  6. ISO #406

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Matt implied that he thought Illuminati was unlikely, yet gave a reaction where it looks as if he knows it exists.

    He’s Open Wolf to me.
    Interesting, quotes?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  7. ISO #407

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  9. ISO #409

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    I’ll get them later I’m on the go RN.
    Alright; ping me when you have them. I'm going off for now.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  10. ISO #410

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    had no idea you were into catan. If we find a couple others maybe we could have a skwirl/sc2mafia catan game. I'll give it a try in the post-game.
    That would be a ton of fun. I have the multi-player expansion but thats about it. Maybe there's an online way to play or something.
    (๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)ﻭ 레드벨벳 ! ! ٩(♡ε♡ )۶

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    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    I disagree. If I were the conspiracy theorist, I'd probably shoot anyone who claims mayor/mason: They're either Illuminati or a TPR. If they're Illuminati, I've helped myself in setups B,C,E,F. If they're TPR, I've made it very possible to scumside in setups A/D.

    I'm more on team "play this like a regular game." Let's try to find the Mafia for now: AT LEAST one of them is scum. If we're in setups A/D, both need to die, but we still need to kill one of them in setups B/C/E/F. If someone acting scummy flips town (especially Mason/Mayor), then that's a good sign there's an Illuminati.

    Also,

    -vote Mesk514

    @Mesk514 , I'm not letting you go by most of the game not offering opinions. Get your ass in here!
    I missed this post before but don’t Illuminati flip Illuminati?

  15. ISO #415

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    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    Why would you say this? If you actually think she's a TPR, you've started to blow her cover and make her a more likely night kill. If you think she's a cit, then you've made her look more suspicious: As you yourself said, cits are much more likely to be non-Illuminati than TPRs are. You think cit is a reliably town role, and you're putting it out there that maybe Mesk isn't one. If she's a townlean, why would you do that?

    -vote Dark Magician


    @Marshmallow Marshall , this is really the kind of post from DM that's bothering me. I just can't see a town perspective in it at all. I'm actually putting him in my "high effort scum" pile: he's not giving paragraphs, but he's actively trying to steer town in the wrong direction. The discredits/premature association of you/me, amplifying the views of probably-drunk Frinckles, and now casting doubt on one of his townlean's claims.



    I already posted my reads where MM was my only townread. (but right now I also have a bit of a townlean on yzb)



    Please just vote someone. Either agree with me/MM that Mesk is suspicious and vote her, agree with Mesk that Me and MM are scummy, or follow your own instincts and go after someone else you think is suspicious. We can't afford to throw today away.



    Yeah, I meant you and me. Frinckles and I are NOT on the same wavelength, and I want to hear some followups from him when he gets back online.

    Renegade was with me on the idea that cit claiming is scummy. I don't like how he's not willing to vote Mesk/DM for claiming cit and I'm puzzled by him being conflicted on Mesk, but when I made that posts I was just talking about how he agreed cit claims are at least a little scummy.



    "Even though they aren't saying." Is anyone else hearing the blatant misrep? I posted reads on EVERYONE, and I believe MM has basically done the same. He's trying to make it sound like we're not giving opinions when we're basically the only two to give opinions on basically everyone.



    Do you really expect us to believe you would have contributed exactly the same amount if you weren't pressured? As I've already explained, you're the type of player to respond to pressure. I'm not scumreading you *for responding,* but if you're town take a step back and realize that I got you to post thoughts on this game. I'm going to prod anyone I think I can get information out of, especially in a setup that allows so few misyeets.



    I am also very interested to hear this.



    Your math is a little off: Setups A/D are twice as likely, so comparatively you're looking at something like 8 total red scum outcomes. It may be less likely, but there's still a very good chance of just finding mafia in setups A/D. (I agree that in setups B/C/E/F we're more likely to yeet Illuminati with how many of them there, though.)

    Not sure if it was here but I stopped reading this after they said MM was their only TR when they TR’ed YZB before I even did.

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    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    I missed this post before but don’t Illuminati flip Illuminati?
    Does anyone actually believe that Mr. Worldbuilder missed the fact that EVERY ILLUMINATI ROLECARD says they don't flip as Illuminati?
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

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  27. ISO #427

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Yeah this site really needs an ISO feature.
    Or,

    They need more hosts who know how to create them are willing to create ISO links in the OP.

    Auwt
    Renegade
    MartinGG99
    Mesk514
    Auwt
    Marshmallow Marshall
    Frinckles
    MattZed
    Dark Magician

    Sorted by reverse post-count as of 8:45 EST.

    Wait, DARK MAGICIAN is the top poster?

    What the fuck
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  28. ISO #428

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Well then how TF am I suppose to get credit when you don’t even flip your scum role.
    Playing stupid now to play to everyone's "DM just makes shitty plays without thinking them through" bias isn't helping your case.

    If you're town, there's no reason for the charade. If you actually think I'm scum, just make the case. Don't feign ignorance to deflect attention off of yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

  29. ISO #429

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    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    Playing stupid now to play to everyone's "DM just makes shitty plays without thinking them through" bias isn't helping your case.

    If you're town, there's no reason for the charade. If you actually think I'm scum, just make the case. Don't feign ignorance to deflect attention off of yourself.
    I said your scum I gave why. I’m not casing it.
    I’m not going to bother giving that kind of effort.
    I’m not going to fight with you.
    I don’t give a shit.

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  36. ISO #436

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Definitely.
    Although the real question is if your bussing or not.
    Omg yes, you caught us, congratulations, mvp right here 😑
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    Omg yes, you caught us, congratulations, mvp right here ��
    Bruh, why are you only voting me for pressuring you instead of voting DM for accusing you of being the last scum with almost no basis? (How in the world DM is putting Mesk on a scumteam with me instead of filling in Auwt with the PoE...)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

  39. ISO #439

  40. ISO #440

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Matt implied that he thought Illuminati was unlikely, yet gave a reaction where it looks as if he knows it exists.

    He’s Open Wolf to me.
    I can't find this anywhere, maybe either I or you are misreading or misunderstanding them.

    As for reactions, that could be misinterpreted as he's the original setup creator and thus quite likes thinking about possible illuminati.

    IMO both you and Matt are probably V and I'm an idiot if I'm somehow wrong.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    I can't find this anywhere, maybe either I or you are misreading or misunderstanding them.

    As for reactions, that could be misinterpreted as he's the original setup creator and thus quite likes thinking about possible illuminati.

    IMO both you and Matt are probably V and I'm an idiot if I'm somehow wrong.
    If you think DM and I are both town, who do you think is scum?
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

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  45. ISO #445

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    tbh, I'm deeply suspicious of the fact that DM's train only has two people on it. @Auwt , @yzb25 , @Frinckles , do you *really* townread this man?
    Frinckles (2 [L-3]):
    Marshmallow Marshall, Renegade
    Marshmallow Marshall (1 [L-4]):
    yzb25
    Dark Magician (1 [L-4]):
    MattZed
    MattZed (2 [L-3]):
    Dark Magician, Mesk514


    DM actually has only one person on his train, and Frinckles has two on his.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  46. ISO #446

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Well I think DM slot will solve itself soon enough. He is fixated on the worlds he has built, very narrow mind you, so I'm not sure he needs to be lynched today. But I can be convinced.
    I'm going to ISO him in about 14 hours. (unless I can get to it IRL tonight) If I can't convince you by then, you're not sincere in being suspicious of DM.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Again, his [DM] first post and extreme whiplash pivot are the most suspicious things to me, not that he scum reads me. He got an insanely poor reaction to his opener and so did a 180.

    Who hands out town points for someone saying "i am the best mis lynch today"???
    Who hands out town points to someone who won't even bother to find a post where someone allegedly scumslipped? Who hands out town points to someone who only townreads people who are suspicious of him? Who gives out townpoints to someone who asks "give me your top TR" to two people who already gave reads on everyone? Who hands out townpoints to someone who accuses his townread of lying about their roleclaim? Who hands out town points to someone who pretends to not read the setup?
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

  47. ISO #447

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Frinckles (2 [L-3]):
    Marshmallow Marshall, Renegade
    Marshmallow Marshall (1 [L-4]):
    yzb25
    Dark Magician (1 [L-4]):
    MattZed
    MattZed (2 [L-3]):
    Dark Magician, Mesk514


    DM actually has only one person on his train, and Frinckles has two on his.
    tbh my brain somehow thinks MM is simultaneously voting for DM and Frinckles.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

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  50. ISO #450

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    If you think DM and I are both town, who do you think is scum?
    Tough call.

    I would have to say DM, but that's only because I like you better.

    I'm somewhat doubtful that DM is scum because I don't really feel pinged by him at all; back in the last ?krc anon game I gut-read him and called him out as scum on D3, though that lynch didn't happen fact was I was correct on him.

    Obviously, that was a wacky anon thing so thing were probably different back then but I felt that he had more of an information-gathering style to him so he could position well based on reads or something like that.

    (If you're interested, the ISO for that game for him is here)

    I'll probably check to see if he has any scum-games anywhere else and see if there's any good noticeable differences or similarities.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

 

 

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