S-FM 232: Stay Classy

[Hybrid]

So what youre saying is, you want the evils to have an advantage regarding something in game, and youre okay with the prospect of town being blindsided with it?

I know you committed to doing dumb shit like the mass reveal, but I also know you backflip lots. So why dont you backflip now and actually help town by not letting us get a suprise dick in the ass

No, that was not i meant... To evils to know that thing would help them a lot tho you really didnt get the point or you are trying to make people read my posts from another scummish angle
Anyways going off

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Nvm, after typing this all out, there is just too much wifom introduced by explaining every potential avenue of scum night actions. The safest option is to go to MYLO tomorrow in a 1v1 PTR battle.

Lynching the PTR claim today (whilst not the best move), provides the most consistent odds of a succesful MYLO lynch tomorrow.

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

Yea, so you're gonna get lynched.

-vote Iced_Monopoly

Come on, lol.

@Hybrid , why do you think Gyrlander is scum and me and Iced are town?

[Iced_Monopoly]

Yea, so you're gonna get lynched.

-vote Iced_Monopoly

Come on, lol.

@Hybrid , why do you think Gyrlander is scum and me and Iced are town?

Well this is going to be a fun predicament. Listen up hoes. We're going with a PTR lynch today.

@Gyrlander claims doctor
@Marshmallow Marshall claims detective
@Iced_Monopoly claims detective

Since we dont want to risk a doc ptr death, and people seem to be more interested in the idea pf a direct role CC. The vote today is going down between myself and MM.

@Mesk514 @Hybrid @Nawa @fokilpt (and obviously gyr) you are voting here today and theres no real point in drawing this out.

Marshmallow Marshall and mesk both pushed us today to enter into a mass reveal in which nothing went like it was promised. We now have a completely informed mafia team, vsing a divided town. Marshmallow refused to even acknowledge the problems with the mass reveal strategy, and isnt pushed it. For those of you that dont know, this is referred to as PR hunting. A scum move to determine which players are power roles and what specific roles they hold.

So, your vote falls to a player who was against having everyone revealed and exposed, and tried to prevent this mess, vs a player who actively pushed for it, and ignored all warnings.

Of course we also need to consider the possibility that the both of us are actually detectives, and the doctor claim is the false claim, but that wont be relevant till tomorrow. So aswell as considering todays actions, you need to consider who you want going into d2 to represent town in the 1v1 PR claim battle in the even both detevtives are detectives. Either a strong player able to look at the game from a wide perspective, and able to drive a lynch against the fale claim doc. Or a known sheep who is too self centred to even look a day ahead or consider the consequences his actions have on town (once again assuming hes actually town).

Hybrid, stop trying to push the lynch elsewhere, statistically, todays lynch has to be between the ptr claims.

[Mesk514]

Alright, it's not Iced.

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Alright, it's notis* Iced.

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

Iced is a great scum lol... He says I am pushing lynch and mass reveal, but hybrid is totally not doing this harder than me. Totally not.

I am seriously thinking it's Iced now. 99% sure of it.

[Mesk514]

Iced is a great scum lol... He says I am pushing lynch and mass reveal, but hybrid is totally not doing this harder than me. Totally not.

I am seriously thinking it's Iced now. 99% sure of it.

you seem to miss the fact that if you're a tpr, it has to be iced or gyrlander......

[Iced_Monopoly]

you seem to miss the fact that if you're a tpr, it has to be iced or gyrlander......

This tier of stupidity almost has me believing that its gyr thats the fake claim. Im starting to doubt that MM would even be able to fathom a mass reveal PR hunt strategy, let alone orchestrate it without some kind of scum day chat.

Then again, he could just be sheeping, it would explain why he didnt understand my arguments against the strat, he was waiting for you to shoot them down (assuming youre partners, as you did start this).

I am against the doc claim being bought into todays lynch, but i would go against gyr if majority voted so. I still think its MM though, and he has next to no chance going up against gyr tomorrow if hes actually detective.

[Mesk514]

but seriously, if you're a TPR, and someone CC's you... you should be tunnelling the fuck out of them... I get that from you, iced.... not MM really.

he's too nonchalant about

[Nawa]

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

aight

[RLVG]

@RLVG are we correct in assuming that a framer framing someone wont have any effect on the feedback a detective receives?

Framer : "Target someone during night to frame them into a Mafia who visited the killed target."
It frames them into a mafia and in addition will frame the target to look like the one who commited the murder.

If a Detective visits a framed target, the Detective will see them as the murderer. Only way this isn't the case is if there was no murder, or the lack of a framing.

[Gyrlander]

It's obvious that one of you is lying, but I don't know if he's scum or just a funny town. To be honest, I was thinking about making a fake claim but ended thinking It would only turn things worse.

We already know who we are going to decide between MM and Iced, don't we? In fact, Iced also claiming Detective when there was already one gives him town points cause a mafia wouldn't claim the same thing twice.

[Gyrlander]

Stupid to drag this off, we're not going to get more info talking today but come up with more conspiracy theories.

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

[The Godfather]

Marshmallow Marshall has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


Marshmallow Marshall (4 [L-0]): Nawa, Iced_Monopoly, Mesk514, Gyrlander
Iced_Monopoly (1 [L-3]): Marshmallow Marshall

[RLVG]

Night 1




The professionals haven't even done any work and already have they pointed fingers.
A mere moment later and the guillotine was prepared.
Marshmallow cried out "I didn't do anything wrong! I'm the guy you hired!"
"Excuses, excuses." said Gyrlander before letting off the rope. CHOP!

After examining Marshmallow's corpse, it was discovered they were indeed a Detective.
If the professionals pointed fingers, how did this happen? It must be the manipulative Mafia.



If anyone wants to join the deadchat / observer chat, send me a PM. You can't be a /sign and /reserve, unless you died.

1. Godfather
   
2. Random Mafia
3. Detective (Marshmallow Marshall)
   
4. Random PR
   
5. Citizen
   
6. Citizen
   
7. Citizen

Players :
- Nawa
- Mesk514
- Gyrlander
- Hybrid
- Iced_Monopoly
- fokilpt
- Marshmallow Marshall (Detective / Lynched Day 1)

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DAYS HOURS MINUTES SECONDS

[RLVG]

Day 2




Something happened.
Iced_Monopoly was a Detective.
SuperJack replaced someone.



If anyone wants to join the deadchat / observer chat, send me a PM. You can't be a /sign and /reserve, unless you died.

1. Godfather
   
2. Random Mafia
3. Detective (Marshmallow Marshall)
   
4. Detective (Iced_Monopoly)
   
5. Citizen
   
6. Citizen
   
7. Citizen

Players :
- Nawa
- Mesk514
- Gyrlander
- Hybrid
- SuperJack
- Marshmallow Marshall (Detective / Lynched Day 1)
- Iced_Monopoly (Detective / Murdered Night 1)

• 00

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DAYS HOURS MINUTES SECONDS

3 votes to hammer.

[Nawa]

Well ffs. We kill Gyrlander and one maf down.

-vote Gyrlander

[Hybrid]

-vote Gyrlander

[Hybrid]

@Mesk514
@SuperJack stop afking vote him, he is maf 100%...
Also I TOLD YOU

[Hybrid]

Tbh, if we lynch SJ with Gyrlander as well, we ll win this

[Gyrlander]

Ayyyy I knew this was going to end like this. I don't know why Iced and me agreed to this anyway. In case it wasn't obvious I'm citizen, I fake claimed TPR following some advices that were given un a M-FM about the advantages of fakeclaiming TPR but this didn't work out at all.

[Gyrlander]

How was I supposed to believe 2 detectives were actually a possible setup? PLEASE DO NOT LYNCH, WE'RE AT MYLO.

[Hybrid]

Ayyyy I knew this was going to end like this. I don't know why Iced and me agreed to this anyway. In case it wasn't obvious I'm citizen, I fake claimed TPR following some advices that were given un a M-FM about the advantages of fakeclaiming TPR but this didn't work out at all.

shut up, who would believe you now <.< if you fake claimed you litreally gamethrew, easy

[Gyrlander]

My first game un a while and I end fucking everything up lmao.

[SuperJack]

You should remove your votes ASAP. We have a whole day and there is ZERO reason to push an early lynch.

[Gyrlander]

shut up, who would believe you now <.< if you fake claimed you litreally gamethrew, easy

I fakeclaimed doctor in order to protect TPRs , that's a common thing that happens in many mafia games, did you know? Specially if it's in a shitty D1 mass claim.

[Gyrlander]

Thank you Mesk and Hybrid for the great idea.

[Gyrlander]

Apparently it was Mesk alone and not Hybrid, so apologies.

[SuperJack]

I'm leaning to believe Gyrlander's fake claim, reasoning being this post:

Why are you guys taking these claims as 100% real claims? I mean, it's D1 masa claim. A lot of people is going to lie or, Sr least, think about It.

[Hybrid]

I'm leaning to believe Gyrlander's fake claim, reasoning being this post:

omg, sj... I doubt you are as stupid as like that. He had to claim citizen from the start and now cause of he fake claimed we lynched MM

It s obvious that he is Mafia atm so vote him up. Or else you are next.

[Hybrid]

kk, mesk will come anyways, easy win for town tbh. gyrlander and sj both being maf as i suspected with my votes...

"we should lynch foklipt"
"i suspect that gyrlander is scum"

both were truth gg wp we won.

[Hybrid]

mesk as soon as you come, vote gyrlander. as soon as the next day comes vote for sj and we will win

[SuperJack]

omg, sj... I doubt you are as stupid as like that. He had to claim citizen from the start and now cause of he fake claimed we lynched MM

It s obvious that he is Mafia atm so vote him up. Or else you are next.

You understand that IF Gylander was scum, that the scum would not kill Iced Monopoly?
They would of left him alive so that today would be Gylander Vs Iced Monopoly.

[SuperJack]

-vote Hybrid

Why try to rush the day?

[Hybrid]

anyways town will win anyways, it s so obv that it s gyrlander and SJ.
Mesk vote Gyrlander as soon as you come online it s ez win

[Hybrid]

Reasons why Gyrlander is Obv scum
Didn't claim citizen while there are 2 det claims if he were to be really citizen it is obvious gamethrow
Did let MM to be lynched at day by his fake claim
Both dets killed means that no one is here to check did gyrlander moved or not.

REasons why gyrlander mgiht be townie
Everything is possible but it s most likely not the case maybe 1% chance to gyrlander to be townie

Anyways as isaid mesk will come and hammer gyrlander. tomorrow will be SJ s lynch... Geez i knew who mafia was -.-

[Gyrlander]

omg, sj... I doubt you are as stupid as like that. He had to claim citizen from the start and now cause of he fake claimed we lynched MM

It s obvious that he is Mafia atm so vote him up. Or else you are next.

Don't worry, once I get killed there won't be "next". At least try to understand what I'm saying instead of just seeing 3 TPR claims and now that 2 have died you need to get the other one. I FAKE CLAIMED. And if you don't unvote me asap I'll get lynched by another maf AT LEAST TRY TO THINK AND UNVOTE ME FOR NOW

[Gyrlander]

anyways town will win anyways, it s so obv that it s gyrlander and SJ.
Mesk vote Gyrlander as soon as you come online it s ez win

Don't you think that if SJ was scum he would have bussed me already and won tomorrow?

[Gyrlander]

@Nawa Didn't realise you were the one who voted. If you don't want to lose this shitty game with a shitty start UNVOTE ME NOW FFS

[SuperJack]

anyways town will win anyways, it s so obv that it s gyrlander and SJ.
Mesk vote Gyrlander as soon as you come online it s ez win

You're not even trying to argue back, just ignore what I'm saying. I've already posted 2 Valid counter arguements:

1) The following quote literary says "Think About it" when relating to fake claims. Which is a soft claim telling us that his fake is false to draw the mafia Kill

Why are you guys taking these claims as 100% real claims? I mean, it's D1 masa claim. A lot of people is going to lie or, Sr least, think about It.

2) If Gylander was scum, the mafia WOULD NOT kill Iced_Monopoly, because the risk that Gyrlander gets lynched for "Fake Claiming" is tremendously high.
They would of left Iced alive so that today would be wasted with a Gylander vs Iced Monopoly argument.


You have 0 reasons why I'm scum, and the other players are town, other than to try and force the game to end quickly.

[Gyrlander]

I swear Hybrid, unvote me for now. We can think about lynching me during the next 46 hours so please UNVOTE ME SO I DON'T GET HAMMERED BY MAFIA.

[Gyrlander]

Apparently Nawa voted me and left, there you have a very probable mafia, in case you were guessing.

[Nawa]

I am back.

-unvote

Okay, im stupid, i didn't know such strat exists.
game went full cancer.

[Gyrlander]

I am back.

-unvote

Okay, im stupid, i didn't know such strat exists.
game went full cancer.

Facepalm. Anyway, you're suspicious as fuck forf what you just did.

[Hybrid]

ok, i am done... Nawa vote back for the love of god he is screaming like "I AM MAFIA"

[Hybrid]

I wouldn't try this hard to lynch someone as mafia... Like seriously nawa and mesk vote gyrlander... HE IS JUST SCREAMING AROUND THAT "I AM MAF BUT LOL U GUYS AINT LYNCHING ME"

[Gyrlander]

I wouldn't try this hard to lynch someone as mafia... Like seriously nawa and mesk vote gyrlander... HE IS JUST SCREAMING AROUND THAT "I AM MAF BUT LOL U GUYS AINT LYNCHING ME"

You must have an interesting way to think things. Your continuous gibberish is making you seem suspicious, oh, which would be really interesting because if you are mafia you have the PERFECT reason to lynch me.

[Gyrlander]

I wouldn't try this hard to lynch someone as mafia... Like seriously nawa and mesk vote gyrlander... HE IS JUST SCREAMING AROUND THAT "I AM MAF BUT LOL U GUYS AINT LYNCHING ME"

It must feel bad for you to see how you can easy win the game. And if you're town, unvote me. And SJ should unvote as well. Mafia could hammer fast if Hybrid and SJ are town. @Nawa Thanks for unvoting.

[SuperJack]

Reasons why Gyrlander is Obv scum
Didn't claim citizen while there are 2 det claims if he were to be really citizen it is obvious gamethrow
Did let MM to be lynched at day by his fake claim
Both dets killed means that no one is here to check did gyrlander moved or not.

REasons why gyrlander mgiht be townie
Everything is possible but it s most likely not the case maybe 1% chance to gyrlander to be townie

Anyways as isaid mesk will come and hammer gyrlander. tomorrow will be SJ s lynch... Geez i knew who mafia was -.-

1) Gylander was the SECOND TRP claim. He only claimed after 1 person claimed Det, Iced did so afterward.
2) Gylander didn't believe that 2 detectives was a resonable thought, hence he let one get lynched.
3) Faffing about what not actions could of been taken is NOT PROOF

[Gyrlander]

Tbh, I expected the other TPR if MM was town to not claim TPR but Iced did and everything went to hell.

[SuperJack]

I reccomend reading d1 again.