S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)

[oliverz144]

Not that I find Paopan hyper towny,
However, I can't vote against a person whose train is consisting of 100% of the players I deemed to be bandits.
C o n s i s t e n c y

1. you say all the bandits (4) are voting paopan
2. Paopan is scummy
3. You dont vote a scummy person, who maybe mafia, because all 4 mafias are already voting him
4. There are only 4 mafia

you have a logical problem.

-vote auwt

[Loldebite]

I can't say it's 100% certain, but Loldebite probably blocked me. That was the plan they were set on for most of D1 so it would make sense.

I wanted you to believe that.

Ok you guys can stop pillow pushing and bussing, MM is here.

This, lol.

Sorry folks, i've been busy last night and woke up late today out of sheer lazyness. I blocked PQR because he was a risk-free block, having no night ability. Felt he was the most likely scum to act for the same reason, too and his reckless pushing on gikkle/jmw was weird. I believe now that he was bussing. I have not caught up yet, i wrote that after reading page 20. I also apologise because i wont be available from 5AM CDT to about 10AM CDT because i am playing in a chess tournament... I should have time to read everything and post more untill i go, tho

[oliverz144]

Once again, if I'm scum, why wouldn't have I carried out the KP?
My role would be perfect to do it, especially if you don't put the escort in the same team as mine.

maybe frinckles was healed?
or u didnt kill/didnt find a lynch target?

[Mike]

Light Checked ME no one visted me
Jailer Jailed MAyor and Did not exe him
We do not know If anyone was attackedd.
I checked Light got feedback Light is TOWN.
Bus bussed Oliver and MM last night.
PRQHack invited ME Himself MAyor who did not attend and JMW to night chat.
Doc healed Frinkles (Posible Frinkles Mafia target and save
Esocort RBed PRQHack
Viggy holstered
BG Guarded MAyor

[Loldebite]

Also sorry for keeping you guys waiting, i had NO IDEA we had no kills and my feedback was that important...

[Loldebite]

Oh i forgot

-vote PQRnHack

May you metal on in Valhalla, you scoundrel.

[oliverz144]

@Auwt
why am i scum?
just because i voted paopan?

[Auwt]

maybe frinckles was healed?
or u didnt kill/didnt find a lynch target?

I highly doubt doc managed to clutch this.

The second statement does not define my way of playing sorry.
Up to you to believe me or not.
No kill or no vote is not in my dictionnary.

[Auwt]

Now that I am thinking of it, @PQRnHack where has this enthusiasm about voting Gikkle and so on gone?

[oliverz144]

I highly doubt doc managed to clutch this.

The second statement does not define my way of playing sorry.
Up to you to believe me or not.
No kill or no vote is not in my dictionnary.

im pretty sure scum needs to vote to kill 100% of all votes

[NotPaopan]

Oh i forgot

-vote PQRnHack

May you metal on in Valhalla, you scoundrel.

Please stick your votes to either me or Gikkle. Thanks

Don't play it too safe. Your opinion regarding PQ is going to be well appreciated in the ff days.

[Auwt]

@Auwt
why am i scum?
just because i voted paopan?

Reasoning flaw, being part of the wrong train imo?
Am I missing anything, not sure.
Seems fair.

[Auwt]

im pretty sure scum needs to vote to kill 100% of all votes

I'm pretty sure town needs to vote the scum out in order to win.

[Auwt]

Now that I am thinking of it, @PQRnHack where has this enthusiasm about voting Gikkle and so on gone?

PQR looks to be stun since the beginning of this day ngl.

[Loldebite]

- loldebite. You are kinda, ugh, inactive. Every person, or should i say every TOWN, is interested in finding out whether they survived or not. You somehow dont.

bruh, the day starts at 11PM my time... Why am i not a "rookie" ?

[Loldebite]

My colorful POV

NotPaopan (7 [L-1]):
jmw, Gikkle, Loldebite, Light_Yagami, Marshmallow Marshall, Frinckles, oliverz144

Gikkle (5 [L-3]):
Auwt, Oberon, PQRnHack, NotPaopan (Mayor)

Light_Yagami (1 [L-7]):
Mike

PQRnHack (1 [L-7]):
luona


This is kinda rushed before i go, i might've overlooked stuff.

[oliverz144]

bruh, the day starts at 11PM my time... Why am i not a "rookie" ?

same for me, middle europe?
btw, if you are "lolbit13" then you arent a noob

[Oberon]

I wanted you to believe that.



This, lol.

Sorry folks, i've been busy last night and woke up late today out of sheer lazyness. I blocked PQR because he was a risk-free block, having no night ability. Felt he was the most likely scum to act for the same reason, too and his reckless pushing on gikkle/jmw was weird. I believe now that he was bussing. I have not caught up yet, i wrote that after reading page 20. I also apologise because i wont be available from 5AM CDT to about 10AM CDT because i am playing in a chess tournament... I should have time to read everything and post more untill i go, tho

That does make a kind of sense if PHack is mafia.

[Oberon]

same for me, middle europe?
btw, if you are "lolbit13" then you arent a noob

Same for me

[Oberon]

-vote Pqrnhack

[oliverz144]

I dont see a scum!Porn
help me pls

[oliverz144]

Interesting vote count btw

[Gikkle]

-.- i dont like how you wrote out a big big long post and then said u find it unlikely, it seems contradictory and a bit scummy

The post was meant to prove it was possible for T/T Me/Paopan because Jmw made the assertation the wagons were definitely S/T. I explained this in the post.

[Gikkle]

Lynching scum is powerful no matter how weak or strong their role is...


Ah yes, clearly an attempt to prompt discussion.
Notice how you make my read look worse than it is first, then follow up asking what the terms mean after that.
I'm too lazy to wallpost back and forth with you so if you survive this dayphase I'll just shoot you tonight unless I get roleblocked. You're playing exactly how you play as scum.

Again, I asked what the terms meant in relation to Mike. I wanted further explanation.

You're basically just claiming scum with this simple minded read at this point. I gave you 2 chances, one to explain your original read and another with this latest post. Both your responses have been unreasonably aggressive. Should I use a three strike system and give you another chance? Based on the wording of your post I find it unlikely you're going to be willing to back down. But if you still argue that I'm scum for applying a little bit of pressure on you, then I'll have to take that as a scum claim just based on how unreasonable that claim is.

[Gikkle]

I wanted you to believe that.



This, lol.

Sorry folks, i've been busy last night and woke up late today out of sheer lazyness. I blocked PQR because he was a risk-free block, having no night ability. Felt he was the most likely scum to act for the same reason, too and his reckless pushing on gikkle/jmw was weird. I believe now that he was bussing. I have not caught up yet, i wrote that after reading page 20. I also apologise because i wont be available from 5AM CDT to about 10AM CDT because i am playing in a chess tournament... I should have time to read everything and post more untill i go, tho

huh.
So either PQR is scum or Frinckles was saved by MM

[oliverz144]

huh.
So either PQR is scum or Frinckles was saved by MM

yes.

[Mike]

Again, I asked what the terms meant in relation to Mike. I wanted further explanation.

You're basically just claiming scum with this simple minded read at this point. I gave you 2 chances, one to explain your original read and another with this latest post. Both your responses have been unreasonably aggressive. Should I use a three strike system and give you another chance? Based on the wording of your post I find it unlikely you're going to be willing to back down. But if you still argue that I'm scum for applying a little bit of pressure on you, then I'll have to take that as a scum claim just based on how unreasonable that claim is.

Wow he explained it this is so bad

-vote gikkle

[Frinckles]

Wait, an idea’s just occurred to me. If jailing is a perfect roleblock, I can just kee jailing paopan until someone dies, at which point we’ll know for sure he isn’t Godfather? Am I missing something?

I wanted you to believe that.



This, lol.

Sorry folks, i've been busy last night and woke up late today out of sheer lazyness. I blocked PQR because he was a risk-free block, having no night ability. Felt he was the most likely scum to act for the same reason, too and his reckless pushing on gikkle/jmw was weird. I believe now that he was bussing. I have not caught up yet, i wrote that after reading page 20. I also apologise because i wont be available from 5AM CDT to about 10AM CDT because i am playing in a chess tournament... I should have time to read everything and post more untill i go, tho

No problem, thanks for chiming in. Just going over all this now.

[NotPaopan]

ANNOUNCEMENT: LORD MAYOR PAOPAN SPEAKING!!
DAY 2 FIELD REPORT 卐

jmw
- I don't feel too good about this slot. He is very cautious about his image.
- My opinion on this slot might change depending on his night action. My advice... Play it like a "Go big or go home"
- I'm anxious if he's going to shoot PQ tonight or no.

Gikkle
- This train. Omfg why is it so hard to push this train??? Holy shit I'm pushing this.
- Lynching this slot will provide us with a lot of information. I'm not moving my vote out of here.

oliverz144
- This guy... Srly post is full of IIoA. In any case, I don't feel anything for this slot to be a town.
- Heavily defends Gikkle. Either he knows Gikkle is 100% town or teammates with him as Bandit. In any case, I don't feel anything for this slot to be a town.

Marshmallow Marshall
- I really don't understand this slot. Pushed me even before I started my first post in this game. And still voting me until now.

Oberon
- I told him to execute me to provide town info. Yet he didn't. Makes no sense to jail me smh. +scum points
- He claims to me in jail that Gikkle is scum; oliver town. Yet didn't vote Gikkle on day 2. +major scum points
- loldebite said that he "RBed" PQ and he instantly voted PQ. Opportunity much?? [#1170]

Loldebite
- Pretty sus when he considers luona and Oberon as his town core. His list doesn't make sense to me. [#1166]
- Claimed RBing PQ. So probably an info we might need in the ff. days or maybe tonight (vig???)

PQRnHack
- This slot is now getting in the spotlight due to having no n1 kill and him getting roleblocked.
- Still not convinced, maybe Mafia did not attack and intends to play a long game.

Auwt
- Didn't get along with him on initially on day 1. But his scum list matches mine. The lord mayor recognizes Auwt, as a town.

Light_Yagami && Mike
- The Lord Mayor considers bo Towncore due to mechanics. PoV might change, I'm an assessor and they're going for KPI evaluation in the upcoming days.

Frinckles
- Possibly attacked on night 1. Slight chance, but it might have. +town points
- Voted me at the last second on EoD1. Probably drunk again, NAI.

Luona
- Null reads for now... Role slot is too valuable to lynch or kill at this stage. Have no idea about this slot to be honest

Oh yeahhhh... Can post like this during weekends. We must carry out a great struggle with many contemporary features. Having the courage to fight and the fortitude to win is what has made our party invincible. Realizing our great dream will require hard work and persistence. Today, we are closer, more confident, and more capable than ever before of making the goal of national rejuvenation a reality. But we must be prepared to work harder than ever to get there.

HEIL PAOPAN! HEIL PAOPAN! HEIL PAOPAN! HEIL PAOPAN! HEIL PAOPAN! HEIL PAOPAN! HEIL PAOPAN! HEIL PAOPAN! HEIL PAOPAN! HEIL PAOPAN! HEIL PAOPAN! HEIL PAOPAN! HEIL PAOPAN! HEIL PAOPAN! HEIL PAOPAN! HEIL PAOPAN! HEIL PAOPAN! HEIL PAOPAN! HEIL PAOPAN! HEIL PAOPAN! HEIL PAOPAN!

[Frinckles]

-vote PQRnHack

[PQRnHack]

yes.

no to the first part

[Loldebite]

huh.
So either PQR is scum or Frinckles was saved by MM

yes.

Or scum held the kill in a funky masterplan...

[PQRnHack]

PQR looks to be stun since the beginning of this day ngl.

yes, stunned with too much alcohol yesterday! but im back and awake now, catching up.

[Frinckles]

Or scum held the kill in a funky masterplan...

There are 4 Mafia members. They knew MM would be healing me.

Why would anyone no-kill here? And who would actually roleblock a role that cannot be roleblocked?

Logically they handed their factional kill to PQR because they thought it would be reliable there and you blocked it. They played excellently there but you played better.

[PQRnHack]

Now that I am thinking of it, @PQRnHack where has this enthusiasm about voting Gikkle and so on gone?

IM BACK! But need to catch up, i see i got some fans.

[Loldebite]

Loldebite
- Pretty sus when he considers luona and Oberon as his town core. His list doesn't make sense to me. [#1166]

Lol, how the fuck are they my towncore when i put myself Mike & Light in the same color as myself ?

[PQRnHack]

I highly doubt doc managed to clutch this.

Oh really? BG is a pretty valuable role, not out of the question that both mafia and doc targeted town~BG.

[Frinckles]

Consider you're sitting around with 3 mafia buddies (including pqr):

Maf1: hey guys who is doing the kill
Maf2: idk i guess i can
Maf1: but what if u get rb
PQR: ill do it nobody can stop my abilitiez
Maf2: wow PQR you are so heckin smart
Maf1: yeah nobody would think to rb u
Maf3: theyd have to b so dummm to rb u!

[NotPaopan]

Heavenly Lord Mayor suggests...

PQ is not the lynch for today.

But I declare a poker game for tonight consists of the Lord Mayor, PQ, Vig, and (+1 probably BG or TI to avoid unnecessary actions)

But yeah yeah let vig decide PQ's fate. So we may know if Vig died tonight, without LW; we can still see who he decides to kill (removing lolbite from the night equation)

[Frinckles]

Heavenly Lord Mayor suggests...

PQ is not the lynch for today.

But I declare a poker game for tonight consists of the Lord Mayor, PQ, Vig, and (+1 probably BG or TI to avoid unnecessary actions)

But yeah yeah let vig decide PQ's fate. So we may know if Vig died tonight, without LW; we can still see who he decides to kill (removing lolbite from the night equation)

Thanks for the suggestion Mayor but overruled.

[NotPaopan]

Thanks for the suggestion Mayor but overruled.

A mere commoner overruling a Lord Mayor.

So rude... very rude. I don't like it.

You don't like to vote Gikkle? Why? And oh why?

[NotPaopan]

Lol, how the fuck are they my towncore when i put myself Mike & Light in the same color as myself ?

Town core or town lean... Potato po-ta-to.

I still don't understand your listing. Particularly towards Oberon.

[Frinckles]

A mere commoner overruling a Lord Mayor.

So rude... very rude. I don't like it.

You don't like to vote Gikkle? Why? And oh why?

Because I'm not sure Gikkle is scum yet and Gikkle is being voted by the people I do think are scum. I think we have caught a Mafia member.

[NotPaopan]

Because I'm not sure Gikkle is scum yet and Gikkle is being voted by the people I do think are scum. I think we have caught a Mafia member.

Yeah. We might have caught one.

But the Gikkle flip will give us more information.

PQ flip as town or bandit today won't give us that much info compared to Me or Gikkle getting lynched.

[Loldebite]

Heavenly Lord Mayor suggests...

PQ is not the lynch for today.

But I declare a poker game for tonight consists of the Lord Mayor, PQ, Vig, and (+1 probably BG or TI to avoid unnecessary actions)

But yeah yeah let vig decide PQ's fate. So we may know if Vig died tonight, without LW; we can still see who he decides to kill (removing lolbite from the night equation)

Why do you keep acting as if you were confirmed town ?

[Frinckles]

Yeah. We might have caught one.

But the Gikkle flip will give us more information.

PQ flip as town or bandit today won't give us that much info compared to Me or Gikkle getting lynched.

Sure it will. PQ will flip as bandit and it will make all of the flimsy interactions he's had with other possible scum players even more pronounced.

If you aren't voting PQ you either believe:
-they didnt kill
-they attacked me

right? which one?

[NotPaopan]

Why do you keep acting as if you were confirmed town ?

Irrelevant question coming from the big 4

slot1: gikkle
slot2: oliver
slot3: loldebite
slot4: MM/PQ/Oberon/jmw

;)

[NotPaopan]

Sure it will. PQ will flip as bandit and it will make all of the flimsy interactions he's had with other possible scum players even more pronounced.

If you aren't voting PQ you either believe:
-they didnt kill
-they attacked me

right? which one?

right now.

65% attacked BG and healed (makes the most sense)
15% PQ has KPI and was RBed
15% loldebite is lying asf
5% they didn't kill

Oh? Care to give an instance? anyone you can associate with PQ?

[Frinckles]

right now.

65% attacked BG and healed (makes the most sense)
15% PQ has KPI and was RBed
15% loldebite is lying asf
5% they didn't kill

Oh? Care to give an instance? anyone you can associate with PQ?

We SAID in thread yesterday for MM to heal me. 4 people are Mafia, they saw it. They would not attack me.

If PQR flips town, loldebite would be outted scum to me but reading him, I don't think he's lying at all.

As for who else might be scum, Auwt is a candidate. He only recently started turning his attention towards PQR in an effort to dissociate from him.

[Frinckles]

Oh really? BG is a pretty valuable role, not out of the question that both mafia and doc targeted town~BG.

This is the type of misdirection they're pushing right now. They want you to think that it's plausible I was attacked when we it was put in-thread.

Oh. I can be healed. @Marshmallow Marshall you permaheal me. @luona you swap MM with someone.

Ah yes, because you certainly are town, right? Lol. Maybe. Maybe not.

There are four Mafia members so look at the people who were around for that: Oberon, JMW, Auwt, Light, Oliver, Luona, Loldebite, PQR, Gikkle, Frinckles.
It was literally during the EOD. It was analyzed by multiple people. They knew I would be healed.

Lol nice. I was on Frinckles btw, so either Frinckles is town or Loldebite played nicely (or mafia nokilled)

Surprise.

Now make an argument that Mafia chose not to kill and tell me why.