S-FM 292: ★ Silent Night ★ [14P]

[Light_Yagami]

THAT'S NOT ME SAYING I DONT USE META READS I WAS CITING AN EXAMPLE

are you seriously trying to spin and scumpaint me for this shit?

I Mean There Was No Official Quote So What Else Am I Saposta Think Now Ur The One Thats Spinning Shit Sir..

[blinkskater]

that's not really what he's saying

I seriously can't tell whether he is actually having a hard time understanding what im trying to say or if he is legit trying to bury me

[Ganelon]

ozy at EoD preferred efe and said something to me like "are you scum it seems you're subtly trying to get huey lynched"
my theory is ozy/huey scum
-OR-
solid d/someone else scum
also I'm not telling you my target but obviously it's someone in my town reads

[OzyWho]

ah shit I've got some quality info for y'all
I HARDCLAIM GUARDIAN ANGEL.
ergo Kovath was 100% town

1. both neutrals can have either alignment as their lover/protectee
2. out of the 3 - lover/angel/hearthbreaker - only the hearthbreaker would still be alive.

-vote Magoroth

[Ganelon]

solid d was scumread by multiple players and his posts were kind of useless, he had lots of filler and no real thoughts, and also he didn't seem to care for the train yesterday
I conjecture naz was town bc she would never have killed kovath there

[Light_Yagami]

1. both neutrals can have either alignment as their lover/protectee
2. out of the 3 - lover/angel/hearthbreaker - only the hearthbreaker would still be alive.

-vote Magoroth

And Thats Scummy.. He Hard Claims A Neutral Role That Could Very Easily Save A Towns Person And You Vote Him.. Sad Day For You Ozy..

[blinkskater]

I Mean There Was No Official Quote So What Else Am I Saposta Think Now Ur The One Thats Spinning Shit Sir..

I had it in quotes dude and I had literally just said that I always use meta 100%

How can you even think a valid thing to say back to me was well you you use meta and 5 seconds later you said you dont like this is what you do every time as scum.

You even go as far as to take someone claiming GF as a joke and literally scumread them for it.

you are not town

[Ganelon]

1. both neutrals can have either alignment as their lover/protectee
2. out of the 3 - lover/angel/hearthbreaker - only the hearthbreaker would still be alive.

-vote Magoroth

? not sure what you're saying it would be dumb af for me to claim this role as any other role, Guardian Angel doesn't care if he dies or not

[OzyWho]

that's not really what he's saying

What he is saying he that you not holding your word of not using meta reads is scummy.
"How DARES he use meta when he promised not to!"

Not only is it unrealistic expectation but also how can that be seen as scummy is beyond me.

[Ganelon]

FMPOV when efe threatened to bind himself to me, had I been literally any other role I wouldn't have been so willing to switch to huey yesterday

[Ganelon]

What he is saying he that you not holding your word of not using meta reads is scummy.
"How DARES he use meta when he promised not to!"

Not only is it unrealistic expectation but also how can that be seen as scummy is beyond me.

oh yeah I agree with that, I don't think its scummy

[Ganelon]

@Kovath thanks for the vote on solid but
also @Frinckles you need to use [resetcount][/resetcount] to reset the votes

[Light_Yagami]

I had it in quotes dude and I had literally just said that I always use meta 100%

How can you even think a valid thing to say back to me was well you you use meta and 5 seconds later you said you dont like this is what you do every time as scum.

You even go as far as to take someone claiming GF as a joke and literally scumread them for it.

you are not town

You Sir Are Mistaken Because I Am Town.. And U Have Flip Flopped On This I Use Meta I Dont Use Meta.. Already... And The Fact The U Put Ur Own Quotes Around It Doesnt Make It An Official Quote..

[blinkskater]

ah shit I've got some quality info for y'all
I HARDCLAIM GUARDIAN ANGEL.
ergo Kovath was 100% town

i'm inclined to believe this because

1. it's really fucking early into the day
2. you were under no vote pressure, only my thread pressure

I'm weary to believe this because
1. if you are janitor and if kovath was the guardian angel then this is a free ticket claim for you.
2. I legit think you're a wolf -.-

[OzyWho]

ozy at EoD preferred efe and said something to me like "are you scum it seems you're subtly trying to get huey lynched"

Dude. I saw you trying to compel people to not lynch efe but someone else.
I didnt know efe is town, i thought efe is mafia.
I clearly thought you were efes scummate.

How in the world do you scumread me there?

[blinkskater]

How can you honestly expect anyone to not use metareads?
That's not sincere, no way.

that's not what i'm saying

[Ganelon]

Dude. I saw you trying to compel people to not lynch efe but someone else.
I didnt know efe is town, i thought efe is mafia.
I clearly thought you were efes scummate.

How in the world do you scumread me there?

could be seen as you being scum with huey

[Light_Yagami]

that's not what i'm saying

Thats What It Sounds Like You Are Saiyan..

[OzyWho]

ozy at EoD preferred efe and said something to me like "are you scum it seems you're subtly trying to get huey lynched"
my theory is ozy/huey scum
-OR-
solid d/someone else scum
also I'm not telling you my target but obviously it's someone in my town reads

For clarification. This post is what Mag says why he scumreads me:

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...-MAYHEM/page17
this is a game where efe was scum. his play was almost a carbon copy.

@Magoroth
What happened to this?

You made that investigation to be sure that we have a non-town Efekannn02, but you still switched?

Even previously you were against Efe's lynch, then made this post as an excuse "ok, i reconsidered it, im ok with this".

But then quickly voted Huey as the possibility arrised.

So what I think is - this post of yours was originally an excuse to buss your scummate Efekannn02. That's entire plausible give your play the last hours.

@Magoroth - i clearly thought you were on a scum team with efekannn02.
Why do you scumread me for that?
Was I expected to know that efe is town?

[blinkskater]

You Sir Are Mistaken Because I Am Town.. And U Have Flip Flopped On This I Use Meta I Dont Use Meta.. Already... And The Fact The U Put Ur Own Quotes Around It Doesnt Make It An Official Quote..

I have never flip flippod about using meta.

I 100% always use meta every single game.

I never said it was a specific quote, nor did I intend it to be.

I was citing an example of how it sounded when you say it.

You ignore what I'm saying and twist it into a way that makes me appear scummy

-vote light_yagami

[Frinckles]

7 votes to hammer.
Hopefully fixed votes, sorry.

where is aivon :c

[Ganelon]

i'm inclined to believe this because

1. it's really fucking early into the day
2. you were under no vote pressure, only my thread pressure

I'm weary to believe this because
1. if you are janitor and if kovath was the guardian angel then this is a free ticket claim for you.
2. I legit think you're a wolf -.-

lol I had not considered that, but ya
tbh

[blinkskater]

there is 100% at least one wolf between yagami/mag/ozy

[Ganelon]

For clarification. This post is what Mag says why he scumreads me:

@Magoroth - i clearly thought you were on a scum team with efekannn02.
Why do you scumread me for that?
Was I expected to know that efe is town?

of course not, nobody could've predicted that up until the very last hour, but you have to admit that seems scummy especially at Eod

[Ganelon]

tbh Yagami rolehunting and then claiming doctor and not dying is bad on so many levels

[OzyWho]

And Thats Scummy.. He Hard Claims A Neutral Role That Could Very Easily Save A Towns Person And You Vote Him.. Sad Day For You Ozy..

He literally claims a role that should be DEAD. @Magoroth
I understand it correct, you are angel and kovath was your protectee?
Then yes, you should be dead. so you claim impossible role.

[Light_Yagami]

I have never flip flippod about using meta.

I 100% always use meta every single game.

I never said it was a specific quote, nor did I intend it to be.

I was citing an example of how it sounded when you say it.

You ignore what I'm saying and twist it into a way that makes me appear scummy

-vote light_yagami

I Dont Think Ive Twisted Anything. Misunderstand Maybe.. Twist Nope Chuck Testa.. Maybe You Should Be More Clear In Your Thoughts.. Thats What You PPL Always Tell Me To Do..

[Light_Yagami]

He literally claims a role that should be DEAD. @Magoroth
I understand it correct, you are angel and kovath was your protectee?
Then yes, you should be dead. so you claim impossible role.

He Said He Was Keeping His Protectee Secret.. Meaning His Target Is Still Alive. Are You Following Along?

[Ganelon]

He literally claims a role that should be DEAD. @Magoroth
I understand it correct, you are angel and kovath was your protectee?
Then yes, you should be dead. so you claim impossible role.

no, I said that Kovath can't have been a neutral, as, had he been a Lover, two people would've died
as I'm a Guardian Angel, that 100% confirms Kovath as town

[OzyWho]

? not sure what you're saying it would be dumb af for me to claim this role as any other role, Guardian Angel doesn't care if he dies or not

You said YOU are the Angel.
You mispoke - and is kovath it?

If you are angel and kovath your protectee - you shoul be dead now.

[blinkskater]

ozy at EoD preferred efe and said something to me like "are you scum it seems you're subtly trying to get huey lynched"
my theory is ozy/huey scum
-OR-
solid d/someone else scum
also I'm not telling you my target but obviously it's someone in my town reads

tbh making a top town read a target isn't a good play, because top townreads are the first players to die

This then makes you have a lower % chance to win the game, if you choose a middle of the pack target that would give you the highest% to win the game because they are least likley to get lynched or killed and the fact that you are saying you choose a town read makes me more skeptical of your claim

[Light_Yagami]

He literally claims a role that should be DEAD. @Magoroth
I understand it correct, you are angel and kovath was your protectee?
Then yes, you should be dead. so you claim impossible role.

Saying That Role Should Be Dead Smells Like TMI Ozy How Do U Know The Role Should Be Dead? Are U The Incense Master/Janitor

[Ganelon]

tbh making a top town read a target isn't a good play, because top townreads are the first players to die

This then makes you have a lower % chance to win the game, if you choose a middle of the pack target that would give you the highest% to win the game because they are least likley to get lynched or killed and the fact that you are saying you choose a town read makes me more skeptical of your claim

I don't get to choose, I tried to soft to my target that I was angel multiple times yesterday but I think they missed it
I believe Kira noticed my claims but I'm not sure

[OzyWho]

could be seen as you being scum with huey

Yeah, and that's why I was on Huey's train, and that's why I said in my opening post that I still find Huey scummy and even voted him. Facepalm

[blinkskater]

And Thats Scummy.. He Hard Claims A Neutral Role That Could Very Easily Save A Towns Person And You Vote Him.. Sad Day For You Ozy..

This is scummy, seeing as how janitor cleaned someone and then there was all of a sudden a hardclaim neutral.

You're protecting mag.

So if mag is telling the truth he could very well be protecting a mafia member also

Very weak read, you know who makes weak reads?

SCUM

[Ganelon]

Yeah, and that's why I was on Huey's train, and that's why I said in my opening post that I still find Huey scummy and even voted him. Facepalm

you were on Huey's train? ok in that case I was wrong tbh

[Light_Yagami]

Im Just Getting Warmed Up On My Hunt For Scum.. Shhhh Be Wary Wary Quiet Im Hunting Scum..

[blinkskater]

I don't get to choose, I tried to soft to my target that I was angel multiple times yesterday but I think they missed it
I believe Kira noticed my claims but I'm not sure

OH, you were assigned a random target

And you TR them?

[Ganelon]

tbh, its possible my target is mafia of course but I do not think so

[Ganelon]

OH, you were assigned a random target

And you TR them?

yea

[Light_Yagami]

This is scummy, seeing as how janitor cleaned someone and then there was all of a sudden a hardclaim neutral.

You're protecting mag.

So if mag is telling the truth he could very well be protecting a mafia member also

Very weak read, you know who makes weak reads?

SCUM

Blink If Ur Town Please Try And Keep Up.. Get On My Level..

[Ganelon]

also

-vote Light_Yagami

tbh
claiming doc and making it past d1 is BAD JUJU

[OzyWho]

of course not, nobody could've predicted that up until the very last hour, but you have to admit that seems scummy especially at Eod

OMGUS
"hey mag, here is an argument why you are scum"
"hey ozy, you are scum"

That's what it looks like to me. And even worse considering how I have been towards Huey.

[Light_Yagami]

I don't get to choose, I tried to soft to my target that I was angel multiple times yesterday but I think they missed it
I believe Kira noticed my claims but I'm not sure

I Actually Did And I Mentioned That One Of Your Posts Sounded Heavenly..

[OzyWho]

He Said He Was Keeping His Protectee Secret.. Meaning His Target Is Still Alive. Are You Following Along?

So why that comment about Kovath in his role claim post?

[Light_Yagami]

also

-vote Light_Yagami

tbh
claiming doc and making it past d1 is BAD JUJU

I Didnt Ever Directly Claim Doc Did I?

[OzyWho]

no, I said that Kovath can't have been a neutral, as, had he been a Lover, two people would've died
as I'm a Guardian Angel, that 100% confirms Kovath as town

ahhh, now that makes sense, ok.

-unvote

[blinkskater]

no, I said that Kovath can't have been a neutral, as, had he been a Lover, two people would've died
as I'm a Guardian Angel, that 100% confirms Kovath as town

from your POV yes not from ours

your claim makes tons of sense for a janitor that just cleaned the angel

what doesnt make sense tho is claiming it under no vote pressure or so early in the day

[OzyWho]

Saying That Role Should Be Dead Smells Like TMI Ozy How Do U Know The Role Should Be Dead? Are U The Incense Master/Janitor

I misunderstood what Mag was saying.

[Light_Yagami]

So why that comment about Kovath in his role claim post?

Thats A Good Question Perhaps Its An Assumption Based On 2 Neutrals And He Is One Of Em.. So Because Mafia Cant Self Kill Leaves The Pool Wide Open For Him To Have Been Town.. I Would Likely Have Assumed The Same Thing Eventually... As The Day Progressed.. And If He Had Been Lover His Lover Would Have Died If I Read The Set Up Correctly Thus Leaving It At Him Having Been Town?