S-FM 200: Mafia Wars II

[SexyDucK]

Anyone up for some setup speculation?
Are there going to be two tailors like last time?

Hey you up for some what the fuck was your initial post speculation?

Why are you concerned about the lucianos, and not the FBI?

[SexyDucK]

i certainly pay attention. The problem is you can't explain your reasoning behind it. Why do i seem to care/try more? Because i was town the last game when i supposedly 'cared less' Would this not make me look MORE suspicious by playing differently?

If you were paying attention then I did explain my fucking reasoning. You are not as defensive this game, and have been trying to discuss things, pointing out things even if they are dumb. You are playing different than you did in both games where you were different alignments, so no it is not more suspicious.

-DucK

[SexyDucK]

No you haven't

Yes I have.

I tunneled on you and tried to bus you all game
I tunneled on you and tried to lynch you until I reevaluated day 2

-DucK

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Didn't see this post until now.

I think he is more focused on solving the game this time around. Maybe it is because it is the first game I haven't tunneled on him, but he is normally more defensive and does dumb things, kind of like how he is responding to quotes directed at other players right now.

Yo Duck, got a question. Are you actively focusing on meta as a reason to read people this game?

Because I feel like you're going back to meta too much. I'm not saying that meta by itself is a bad thing, nor am I considering this a scum tell; I just think you are getting caught up in them the way you're using them right now.

[Unknown1234]

Yes I have.

I tunneled on you and tried to bus you all game
I tunneled on you and tried to lynch you until I reevaluated day 2

-DucK

So what would this option be? You haven't tried hard on me yet. Is it perhaps that your scum and I'm NOT on your team? Interesting.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

I second Duck with Shifty's post being god-awful. Completely ignores the points against him AND cuts to IIOA. Ewww.

[Unknown1234]

If you were paying attention then I did explain my fucking reasoning. You are not as defensive this game, and have been trying to discuss things, pointing out things even if they are dumb. You are playing different than you did in both games where you were different alignments, so no it is not more suspicious.

-DucK

Defensive should not be considered a scum tell. if that is how you are evaluated me stop relying on the meta and come up with something THIS game other then me pointing out "dumb things" i have done this before (pointed out by you)

[Unknown1234]

Hey you up for some what the fuck was your initial post speculation?

Why are you concerned about the lucianos, and not the FBI?

But your making assumptions off of nothing! he never said that he WASN'T CONCERNED ABOUT FBI.

[SexyDucK]

Yo Duck, got a question. Are you actively focusing on meta as a reason to read people this game?

Because I feel like you're going back to meta too much. I'm not saying that meta by itself is a bad thing, nor am I considering this a scum tell; I just think you are getting caught up in them the way you're using them right now.

There are no night kills to discuss, I am using it as a way to feel out the game yes. When there is legit contribution added by people I stop using meta and evaluate based on their intent in this game. Notice how I have unknown as "not read one way or the other", and you as "null". I have not given a read yet because I am not using meta to read people, but get the game moving.

[Shifty]

I second Duck with Shifty's post being god-awful. Completely ignores the points against him AND cuts to IIOA. Ewww.

What points are against me? Excluding a faction from an opening post with no real substance what so ever? My post wouldn't have such a nice ring to it if I included FBI.

[SexyDucK]

Defensive should not be considered a scum tell. if that is how you are evaluated me stop relying on the meta and come up with something THIS game other then me pointing out "dumb things" i have done this before (pointed out by you)

You seriously need to stop parroting calix. Develop your own logic

[SexyDucK]

But your making assumptions off of nothing! he never said that he WASN'T CONCERNED ABOUT FBI.

Remember when you said it was odd when I answered kovath's question. You are doing it now.

[Unknown1234]

You seriously need to stop parroting calix. Develop your own logic

BCD just got back, what i have been doing when they left then? Its my own opinion, so if your trying to make me look like a suck up then congratulations!

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

As for Unknown, I'm kind of stumped with him. Either he's bad town and he's actively trying to work on his scum-hunting and play, or he's taking the game more seriously because he is scum and overcompensating.

I think the first explanation is more plausible at the moment; I'm not sure how likely scum!Unknown would get into an argument with Duck when he knows how much attention that'll draw to him.

[Unknown1234]

Remember when you said it was odd when I answered kovath's question. You are doing it now.

I don't think i answered a question. I think that i disagree with your logic.

[SexyDucK]

As for Unknown, I'm kind of stumped with him. Either he's bad town and he's actively trying to work on his scum-hunting and play, or he's taking the game more seriously because he is scum and overcompensating.

I think the first explanation is more plausible at the moment; I'm not sure how likely scum!Unknown would get into an argument with Duck when he knows how much attention that'll draw to him.

Is this darkness by chance?

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

There are no night kills to discuss, I am using it as a way to feel out the game yes. When there is legit contribution added by people I stop using meta and evaluate based on their intent in this game. Notice how I have unknown as "not read one way or the other", and you as "null". I have not given a read yet because I am not using meta to read people, but get the game moving.

I'll keep this in mind. I've been there with getting sucked down the meta rabbit hole myself.

What points are against me? Excluding a faction from an opening post with no real substance what so ever? My post wouldn't have such a nice ring to it if I included FBI.

Sure, sure, but do you have anything to say about the 150~ posts made since then? Given that start of yours, I'm more interested.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Is this darkness by chance?

Calix.

[SexyDucK]

As for Unknown, I'm kind of stumped with him. Either he's bad town and he's actively trying to work on his scum-hunting and play, or he's taking the game more seriously because he is scum and overcompensating.

I think the first explanation is more plausible at the moment; I'm not sure how likely scum!Unknown would get into an argument with Duck when he knows how much attention that'll draw to him.

When I was mafia with unknown and trying to bus him, there were two days filled with nothing but arguing. What makes you think he would be concerned about the attention this time when some people read our exchanges as a TvT.

[Unknown1234]

When I was mafia with unknown and trying to bus him, there were two days filled with nothing but arguing. What makes you think he would be concerned about the attention this time when some people read our exchanges as a TvT.

No one has given a opinion on our argument but Calix.

[SexyDucK]

No one has given a opinion on our argument but Calix.

Yes, but world of music is what I am talking about. People read us as two towns fighting.

Seriously is there a fucking hidden jester I did not read in the role list?

[SexyDucK]

@Voss hi, thoughts?

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

When I was mafia with unknown and trying to bus him, there were two days filled with nothing but arguing. What makes you think he would be concerned about the attention this time when some people read our exchanges as a TvT.

Firstly, I really do not think you two are in a scum team together. W/W I doubt this is.

People would be expecting you to bus (because of World of Music) and in a setup where you only have scum teams of two (in a fucking multi-ball at that), bussing on Day 1 is a terrible move for Lucianos.

Secondly, the fact that he HAD that giant argument with you in WOM makes me doubt he would want to repeat that mistake. If he was scum, I'd expect more attempts to deflect the attention this time round.

[SexyDucK]

@Shifty now would be an appropriate time for a response to calix.

[Unknown1234]

Yes, but world of music is what I am talking about. People read us as two towns fighting.

Seriously is there a fucking hidden jester I did not read in the role list?

He says casually: "I am not using meta to read people when they give me things to read off of" God your so fucking stupid and easy to piss off.

[Unknown1234]

Voss and Shifty better not continue lurking.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Voss and Shifty better not continue lurking.

Why do you characterise Voss as 'lurking'? It's far more likely he is catching up.

I'm just hoping Shifty provides reads and some damn good reason for why he decided to insert some setup spec questions. Lucianos also choose their roles so speculating on that is even MORE pointless than in the usual game.

[SexyDucK]

He says casually: "I am not using meta to read people when they give me things to read off of" God your so fucking stupid and easy to piss off.

Say's the guy who uses his brain as an avatar.

[Unknown1234]

Why do you characterise Voss as 'lurking'? It's far more likely he is catching up.

I'm just hoping Shifty provides reads and some damn good reason for why he decided to insert some setup spec questions. Lucianos also choose their roles so speculating on that is even MORE pointless than in the usual game.

It could still be lurking, usually I see a post from people saying they are catching up or something. Plus mentioning them usually makes them more inclined to participate

[SexyDucK]

Why do you characterise Voss as 'lurking'? It's far more likely he is catching up.

I'm just hoping Shifty provides reads and some damn good reason for why he decided to insert some setup spec questions. Lucianos also choose their roles so speculating on that is even MORE pointless than in the usual game.

Not to mention we dont have a quote on quote "sheriff" in the role list. At best we have an agent or a underboss guy. With only two mafia a tailor seems rather weak in this setup IMO and will hurt them late game if it comes down to counterclaiming an agent or consort.

-DucK

[Unknown1234]

Say's the guy who uses his brain as an avatar.

You really think I've been playing this stupid by accident? Oh wait...

[SexyDucK]

It could still be lurking, usually I see a post from people saying they are catching up or something. Plus mentioning them usually makes them more inclined to participate

Yeah good call, nobody else posted for them to contribute two minutes before you. ..................... ....................

[Unknown1234]

Yeah good call, nobody else posted for them to contribute two minutes before you. ..................... ....................

You should take your previous aggression for me out of the game completely, it just continues shit posting and fighting that gets us nowhere.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Yeah good call, nobody else posted for them to contribute two minutes before you. ..................... ....................

Can you two cut out the pointless bitching? It's just clogging the thread.

[SexyDucK]

Can you two cut out the pointless bitching? It's just clogging the thread.

no.

[God Emperor Trudeau]

ew.

-vote SexyDucK

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

no.

Sweetheart, maybe you'd feel better if you stopped focusing on that meanie Unknown and give us your read on Kovath ;)

[SexyDucK]

ew.

-vote SexyDucK

THats meskersssssss, was this vote personal ? I already have a vote, why are you not choosing to pressure someone else?

[SexyDucK]

Sweetheart, maybe you'd feel better if you stopped focusing on that meanie Unknown and give us your read on Kovath ;)

Town, and I wont tell you why (LOL TAHT WAS FOR YOU DARKNESS)

[Logically Insane]

Hello Everyone, We need more chaos in this game.

So Borderline Crazy Dealers is Drug Dealer Right?
Drug dealers are bad for town lynch this guy

-vote Borderline Crazy Dealers

So did you guys pick good roles or are you trolling and picking anti-town roles.


~Just your friendly neighborhood liberator here.

[God Emperor Trudeau]

THats meskersssssss, was this vote personal ? I already have a vote, why are you not choosing to pressure someone else?

quit your yapping, i haven't read yet.

[Voss]

As for Unknown, I'm kind of stumped with him. Either he's bad town and he's actively trying to work on his scum-hunting and play, or he's taking the game more seriously because he is scum and overcompensating.

I think the first explanation is more plausible at the moment; I'm not sure how likely scum!Unknown would get into an argument with Duck when he knows how much attention that'll draw to him.

I'm going to reread this day, but this is a good post and this is my way of bookmarking it

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Hello Everyone, We need more chaos in this game.

So Borderline Crazy Dealers is Drug Dealer Right?
Drug dealers are bad for town lynch this guy

-vote Borderline Crazy Dealers

So did you guys pick good roles or are you trolling and picking anti-town roles.


~Just your friendly neighborhood liberator here.

Why are you resorting to RVS after ~200 posts?

Why are you proposing lynches on anti-town town roles? Any town with Tailor, Janitor, Drug Dealer would just not use their role

[Unknown1234]

THats meskersssssss, was this vote personal ? I already have a vote, why are you not choosing to pressure someone else?

1.) you said yourself that the votes don't pressure anyone
2.) why are you upset with them voting you? It shouldn't matter

[SexyDucK]

Hello Everyone, We need more chaos in this game.

So Borderline Crazy Dealers is Drug Dealer Right?
Drug dealers are bad for town lynch this guy

-vote Borderline Crazy Dealers

So did you guys pick good roles or are you trolling and picking anti-town roles.


~Just your friendly neighborhood liberator here.

chaos in the game= bad for town, why do you want chaos.

-DucK

[Unknown1234]

chaos in the game= bad for town, why do you want chaos.

-DucK

Didn't you just refuse to stop arguing with me which furthers chaos?

[SexyDucK]

1.) you said yourself that the votes don't pressure anyone
2.) why are you upset with them voting you? It shouldn't matter

Her only indication was "ew", so it looks like a personal OOG reason for voting me which is a terrible reason. I am just curious on her reasoning if it actually is more than just the fact it is me

-DucK

[Shifty]

Why are you resorting to RVS after ~200 posts?

Why are you proposing lynches on anti-town town roles? Any town with Tailor, Janitor, Drug Dealer would just not use their role

Honestly, I think we can assume that they've been converted if one of those roles are found out having used their ability. Only benefits non-town.

[SexyDucK]

Didn't you just refuse to stop arguing with me which furthers chaos?

I am not spamming shit to spam it, When you post something I see is false or disagree with I comment on it. I am not creating "chaos" I am just increasing the amount of reading people have to do to catch up.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Honestly, I think we can assume that they've been converted if one of those roles are found out having used their ability. Only benefits non-town.

Cult cannot convert until N1.

Can you post your reads on everyone who has posted? Can you explain why you made your setup spec post?