S-FM 221: Death Note

[SilverWolf]

Everyone name your top 3 suspects. We have 3 mislynches available. I'd prefer not to use them all but if everyone in one post, just name your 3, no reason needed, that's all I'm asking. 1,2,3

Me:

-FB
-Stealth
-Crypt

[Firebringer]

As the only surviving kira, Matt checks you and you are dead and game over today.

For some reason, in about 90% of my town games, scum tries to kill me N1 or N2. Even when I'm wrong about everything. Not even sure why.

immmm, i don't think thats even remotely true about that 90% of ur town games.....

and your talking to guy who will do the most nonsensical things just for people to ask "why would he do that?"

[Firebringer]

Why did you change your mind from Banana being your third choice for scum d1 to scum are pushing his wagon d2?

How is that a change of mind?
They were a Third choice.......

That means 2 in front of them......

You act like she was number one scum read when that was never the case

[SilverWolf]

How is that a change of mind?
They were a Third choice.......

That means 2 in front of them......

You act like she was number one scum read when that was never the case

My point is you had a strong enough townread to say scum were pushing banana and that Mesk vote was bad on d2 that you didn't have on d1. With really no explanation for the sudden change. Banana didn't suddenly look super Town or something.

[Firebringer]

My point is you had a strong enough townread to say scum were pushing banana and that Mesk vote was bad on d2 that you didn't have on d1. With really no explanation for the sudden change. Banana didn't suddenly look super Town or something.

ummm no....
if you want to rewrite history, thats fine. but that isn't what happened.

[SuperJack]

Everyone name your top 3 suspects. We have 3 mislynches available. I'd prefer not to use them all but if everyone in one post, just name your 3, no reason needed, that's all I'm asking. 1,2,3

Me:

-FB
-Stealth
-Crypt

FB
Crypt
SW
Mesk
Stealth
Gyrlander
Me

[SilverWolf]

ummm no....
if you want to rewrite history, thats fine. but that isn't what happened.

OK, What did banana do or anyone do to make you think he was Town being pushed by scum?

[SilverWolf]

-FB
-Stealth
-Crypt
-gyrlander
-SuperJack
-Mesk

If I was looking at everyone in the game.

[Firebringer]

Silverwolf I don't get your question.
I thought crypt was scum Kira over banana so for me it was like that was intended mislynch.

Still high as a kite

[Mesk514]

I can't send them because ika confiscated them for his own benefit. He gets mad when I try to sell myself to stay alive in mafia games. He's no fun

the trick is to not tell your boyfriend... i do it all the time

[Mesk514]

No, you got confused. Other way around friend.
BTW u still high?

im never not high my dear friend

[Mesk514]

im high all the time but i never act like fire bringer.... we should get him

[Firebringer]

im high all the time but i never act like fire bringer.... we should get him

thats cause i do it pro style

[Cryptonic]

Sorry I wasn't able to come back yesterday, It was Bunbun's Bday

don't play that there is no reason i am scum bullshit on me.
I invented that.

banana would pick you because cancer.

I am in fact insulted I wasn't picked.

I am considering this wagon on me a compliment that you guys think banana would pick me.

So thank you for this wagon.

To be honest, the reasons why someone wouldn't convert someone are the same reasons as why they would convert that person. It's really a fault argument of SuperJack to try to ask us to come up with reasons of why he would be converted, in my opinion. I think his actions (or lack thereof) speak louder in this game than speculating on WIFOM.

Unless the reasons are 100% logical and not emotional. Like someone who was going to be lynched Day 1 is probably not going to be Second Kira, due to the unwanted attention. But "omg banana don't like me, he wouldn't convert me": wouldn't that make it a better choice to convert in those cases?

I don't really think we should be resorting to meta arguments in this to try to find out who the Second Kira is, and we should be focusing on who is or isn't doing what currently.

[Cryptonic]

Everyone name your top 3 suspects. We have 3 mislynches available. I'd prefer not to use them all but if everyone in one post, just name your 3, no reason needed, that's all I'm asking. 1,2,3

Me:

-FB
-Stealth
-Crypt

-Gyrlander
-SuperJack
-IDK, I'd have to explore more. I'd want to say Stealth, but it's because I don't really have a read on him.

[Cryptonic]

FB
Crypt
SW
Mesk
Stealth
Gyrlander
Me

Interesting that 2 people who have stated they have scum reads on you are your #1 and #2 lol.
Is that how you obtain your scum reads?

[Gyrlander]

-Gyrlander
-SuperJack
-IDK, I'd have to explore more. I'd want to say Stealth, but it's because I don't really have a read on him.

Considering people totally ignored your case, I recommend you to aim for another target.

I'll think of my lynch preference and post it in a while.

[Cryptonic]

Considering people totally ignored your case, I recommend you to aim for another target.

I'll think of my lynch preference and post it in a while.

Nah, I think I'm right, regardless of if other people aren't listening. Why would I go after people I think are less scummy just because the rest of Town doesn't agree with me?

If you want to persuade my vote, then maybe you should address my post instead of just ignoring it and telling me to change votes.

[Mesk514]

I like my vote where it is

[Cryptonic]

Gyrlander, I literally have never seen a Town player refuse to give information in a vanilla game such as you are now. It's mind boggling and completely anti-Town.
I'm excited to see how you end up placing your vote today.

[Gyrlander]

Gyrlander, I literally have never seen a Town player refuse to give information in a vanilla game such as you are now. It's mind boggling and completely anti-Town.
I'm excited to see how you end up placing your vote today.

Lol? What information do you want?

[Gyrlander]

Just realised FB has been L-1 like... for a long time.

[Cryptonic]

Lol? What information do you want?

I asked you about your read on Firebringer that you refused to give.
And now you're ignoring my read on you and not even replying to it, while simultaneously dismissing my read & vote on you and telling me to change votes with 0 defense against my reason for voting you.

[SuperJack]

Interesting that 2 people who have stated they have scum reads on you are your #1 and #2 lol.
Is that how you obtain your scum reads?

Why do you think I was voting banana yesterday?

I just find it incomprehensible that you can read me as top scum reads. Either playing stupid or scum.

[Cryptonic]

Why do you think I was voting banana yesterday?
I just find it incomprehensible that you can read me as top scum reads. Either playing stupid or scum.

You've heard of bussing, especially when our confirmed Town was advocating for Banana's lynch the day before. Any moron could see that the pressure would continue today while both were alive still. Throwing an early vote on, such as what you did, would be a basic strategy for distancing yourself from the most probable lynch of the day. And even if the lynch train didn't end up pulling through, the move still would've worked out in your favor is you were Second Kira.


Didn't think I have to spell this out for you, but please don't call me stupid for having legitimate and logical arguments about your actions that could be scum. You have done literally nothing pro-town. If you're only defense is "I voted for Banana", then you need to do more to help us get a Town read on you.


Do you comprehend now?

[Cryptonic]

ugh so many spelling mistakes

[Cryptonic]

I've seen Gyrlander read this thread like 4 unique times since I replied to him, and he still can't answer a thing. Is this really happening >_>

[Gyrlander]

I've seen Gyrlander read this thread like 4 unique times since I replied to him, and he still can't answer a thing. Is this really happening >_>

I make sure to read things 1000 times before answering, just to make people suffer. That FB thing is still secret, although I'm starting to consider the option of him being alien. About your reads... they're just wrong, so is it worth answering to them? Also, it has been 1 day and most players see me as innocent, why are you still trying to lynch me? Shouldn't you consider that ALL other people may be correct and I'm just a cute Citizen? Plus, you need to seriously push people.

[Cryptonic]

I make sure to read things 1000 times before answering, just to make people suffer. That FB thing is still secret, although I'm starting to consider the option of him being alien. About your reads... they're just wrong, so is it worth answering to them? Also, it has been 1 day and most players see me as innocent, why are you still trying to lynch me? Shouldn't you consider that ALL other people may be correct and I'm just a cute Citizen? Plus, you need to seriously push people.

So, you make sure to contemplate your response before responding? Sounds an awful lot like something scum would do, to try to paint themselves at Town moreso. Or, you could just play normally so people can get more legitimate reads.


No, it's not a secret because you no one has any night actions so there should be no secrets between the Town. Holy shit, do you realize how anti-town it is to keep reads and information to yourself? There are two cases: You are either scum and pretending you have reads but refusing to give them because you know it would make you look like a lying scum bag to actually have to make up reads. Or, in the second case, you're a Citizen who is playing like shit and purposefully keeping information from the rest of us which paints you as scum and provides 0 help to your team. I sincerely hope it's the first one, because otherwise you really should rethink how you play with others. This isn't a one-man game, we need to work as a team and you are acting as if you have no team. You know who else has no team? The last scum.

So, you've literally done nothing to change my mind with your response, because you once again just offered me a post that is complete shit, dismissive, and adding nothing to the game.

Yes, it is worth answering my reads so that other players can get a read on you; unless you're purposefully not responding because you're happy with the rest of Town's current reads on you, and you don't want to sully their vision of you so you refuse to respond. But nope, I ain't letting it go. Sorry bro.

[Firebringer]

I like my vote where it is

That's cause you don't play and any place is a good place for your vote.
Now put it on yourself.

[Firebringer]

So you guys are definitely stalling this game
Superjack is not trying and is likely scum.
Silverwolf is tunneling
Mesk is high and not trying.

I am ready to be hammered to be out of this game.

[SilverWolf]

@Sino

Can you prod or replace Stealthbomber please? It's been more than 24 hrs. and he hasn't posted.

If that slot is town, I'd love to get new blood in here that may be more active because right now I'm kind of frustrated with the lack of activity and the lack of any sort of actual analysis in this game. He's number 2 on my list, so I'm fine lynching it as well.

Also gyrlander if you have some super secret reason you think FB is town, stop holding from us and tell us what it is or maybe try to convince us crypt is scum with actual reasons and engage with him.

[Mesk514]

honestly, i don't mind the night going into a no lynch. better a no lynch and maf kill then mislynch and maf kill

[SilverWolf]

honestly, i don't mind the night going into a no lynch. better a no lynch and maf kill then mislynch and maf kill

Why? Town has 3 mislynches. Doing a NL is like giving scum 2 kills with zero chance of lynching one of them. That makes no sense as town play.

I'm gonna consider anyone letting us NL as scum claiming.

Also, I'd like scum to kill me tonight. It's a special request. Alternatively, I'm fine with my own mislynch.

This game is really frustrating because no one is really playing.

[Mesk514]

Why? Town has 3 mislynches. Doing a NL is like giving scum 2 kills with zero chance of lynching one of them. That makes no sense as town play.

I'm gonna consider anyone letting us NL as scum claiming.

Also, I'd like scum to kill me tonight. It's a special request. Alternatively, I'm fine with my own mislynch.

This game is really frustrating because no one is really playing.

eh i didnt unvote -.-

on se calm svp

[Cryptonic]

Also gyrlander if you have some super secret reason you think FB is town, stop holding from us and tell us what it is or maybe try to convince us crypt is scum with actual reasons and engage with him.

Yea.. "Hey guys, Firebringer is 100% Town, I have secret proof. But he's at L-1 and I'm not going to say anything."

Next thing we know, he's going to hammer his 100% Town Read.

[SilverWolf]

I'm fine lynching gyrlander and SJ instead because they aren't doing a damn thing to advance the game and gyrlander's FB is town but it's a secret and SJ's I can't be Kira cuz I suck at scum are both lame and vote worthy.

I've been going solely by associations but if we want to go by play instead, we can cut the dead weight on either of these two and I wouldn't cry a single tear.

[Sino]

@Sino

Can you prod or replace Stealthbomber please? It's been more than 24 hrs. and he hasn't posted.

I sent him a PM, if he's still afk for the next few hours, i'll replace him.

[Gyrlander]

So, you make sure to contemplate your response before responding? Sounds an awful lot like something scum would do, to try to paint themselves at Town moreso. Or, you could just play normally so people can get more legitimate reads.


No, it's not a secret because you no one has any night actions so there should be no secrets between the Town. Holy shit, do you realize how anti-town it is to keep reads and information to yourself? There are two cases: You are either scum and pretending you have reads but refusing to give them because you know it would make you look like a lying scum bag to actually have to make up reads. Or, in the second case, you're a Citizen who is playing like shit and purposefully keeping information from the rest of us which paints you as scum and provides 0 help to your team. I sincerely hope it's the first one, because otherwise you really should rethink how you play with others. This isn't a one-man game, we need to work as a team and you are acting as if you have no team. You know who else has no team? The last scum.

So, you've literally done nothing to change my mind with your response, because you once again just offered me a post that is complete shit, dismissive, and adding nothing to the game.

Yes, it is worth answering my reads so that other players can get a read on you; unless you're purposefully not responding because you're happy with the rest of Town's current reads on you, and you don't want to sully their vision of you so you refuse to respond. But nope, I ain't letting it go. Sorry bro.

I actually already said why I'm not lynching FB: He's a Growlithe.

[Gyrlander]

I'm fine lynching gyrlander and SJ instead because they aren't doing a damn thing to advance the game and gyrlander's FB is town but it's a secret and SJ's I can't be Kira cuz I suck at scum are both lame and vote worthy.

I've been going solely by associations but if we want to go by play instead, we can cut the dead weight on either of these two and I wouldn't cry a single tear.

Wait, didn't you say that you actually thought I was town? And now OH WELL IF I ACTUALLY CAN GET GYRLANDER LYNCHED, I'M DOWN FOR IT!

[SilverWolf]

Wait, didn't you say that you actually thought I was town? And now OH WELL IF I ACTUALLY CAN GET GYRLANDER LYNCHED, I'M DOWN FOR IT!

Read what I said and actually pay attention to it. I'm not putting up with another day of people misrepping or putting words in my mouth. I have zero reason to try to lynch you if I'm scum. You aren't doing a damn thing to move this game forward and right now, scum has to survive until endgame to win. They will do what you are doing and push Crypt if he's town or they would go after me. Then shoot Mesk at night. It's basic scum motivation and one of the things I've been looking for. Alternatively, I can see them sheeping me if FB is town because they wouldn't have to explain themselves next day. The heat would fall on me.

I gotta go to my radiation appt. I'll be gone for at least 2 hours.

[Gyrlander]

Read what I said and actually pay attention to it. I'm not putting up with another day of people misrepping or putting words in my mouth. I have zero reason to try to lynch you if I'm scum. You aren't doing a damn thing to move this game forward and right now, scum has to survive until endgame to win. They will do what you are doing and push Crypt if he's town or they would go after me. Then shoot Mesk at night. It's basic scum motivation and one of the things I've been looking for. Alternatively, I can see them sheeping me if FB is town because they wouldn't have to explain themselves next day. The heat would fall on me.

I gotta go to my radiation appt. I'll be gone for at least 2 hours.

Yeah, it's my way of not getting killed. Such a good natural thing! Anyway, the way you're talking about me basically says that you believe that I'm town. So, with that in mind, I think you should at least try to keep me alive even if I'm not that productive. Don't you think? I can still provide some... activity.

[Firebringer]

Can someone hammer me?
I can't live in a world where silverwolf is leading town.

[Firebringer]

I demand the ability to self hammer to relieve myself of this phoned in game.

[Firebringer]

-vote Firebringer

[Firebringer]

Firebringer has been lynched.
Please standby for host.

[Gyrlander]

Uuuuugh I don't like this, when interactions start getting a little emotional side I can't correctly read anyone.

[Gyrlander]

Can someone hammer me?
I can't live in a world where silverwolf is leading town.

She isn't. No one is actually leading town. Who do you think is scum?

[Firebringer]

Uuuuugh I don't like this, when interactions start getting a little emotional side I can't correctly read anyone.

Hammer me Kiba-san

Also I bet silverwolf is alive tomorrow.

[Cryptonic]

Can someone hammer me?

No bb I won't be able to go on without ppl like you