S-FM 221: Death Note

[SuperJack]

No deaths... wowowoweeeeewaaa baba

-vote Superjack

because if I had to pick anyone it would be him

I hope this is the vote for the beauty pageants otherwise I'm gonna laugh at you.

[SuperJack]

I dunno how everyone else feels. But I'm down with lynching Banana and Crypt. They are evil.


I would go with Banana first. Then Crypt. And if that don't work idk pull the names outta a hat.

[SuperJack]

Also I have not been converted, I only have one notification and its a Mention. I can still confirm I'm a Citizen.

[SuperJack]

The mention was from the host.

[SuperJack]

Also my right foot is much colder than my left foot. I might get an extra sock.

[SilverWolf]

It probably is Crypt and Banana at this point but I still want gyrlander dead cuz he annoys the ever living shit out of me.

[SuperJack]

It probably is Crypt and Banana at this point but I still want gyrlander dead cuz he annoys the ever living shit out of me.

Please read this again, and realise what your doing is wrong, and decide to be the bigger person and get over that someone is annoying you. Rather than get sucked into a spiral of destruction.

Change we need.
(I stole that motto from a Homeless Person)

-vote BananaCucho

Down with the scum.
Banana is giving SJ the willies.

[SilverWolf]

Please read this again, and realise what your doing is wrong, and decide to be the bigger person and get over that someone is annoying you. Rather than get sucked into a spiral of destruction.

Change we need.
(I stole that motto from a Homeless Person)

-vote BananaCucho

Down with the scum.
Banana is giving SJ the willies.

Let me be salty. ika was lynched for WTF reasons, gyrlander is antagonizing me like a little bitch, other people are barely posting, and yeah Banana is bugging me too-he's way too passive, crypt is doing a lot of saying something without saying anything, but fuck gyrlander and his crap that's gone on for 2 days-he decides to stop his garbage then I'll vote Banana. Until then, fuck that guy.

[Firebringer]

Cryptonic got converted.

I am super high. Whats up?

[SuperJack]

Let me be salty. ika was lynched for WTF reasons, gyrlander is antagonizing me like a little bitch, other people are barely posting, and yeah Banana is bugging me too-he's way too passive, crypt is doing a lot of saying something without saying anything, but fuck gyrlander and his crap that's gone on for 2 days-he decides to stop his garbage then I'll vote Banana. Until then, fuck that guy.

Meh just ignore him. I'm annoyed that Ika was lynched but thats been done with. Lets avange his death by winning.

[SuperJack]

Cryptonic got converted.

I am super high. Whats up?

my hair mostly.

[BananaCucho]

Laziness, yet annoyance at a result he did nothing to prevent.

I'm disappointed in you SJ that you've reverted to this.

[BananaCucho]

Let me be salty. ika was lynched for WTF reasons, gyrlander is antagonizing me like a little bitch, other people are barely posting, and yeah Banana is bugging me too-he's way too passive, crypt is doing a lot of saying something without saying anything, but fuck gyrlander and his crap that's gone on for 2 days-he decides to stop his garbage then I'll vote Banana. Until then, fuck that guy.

Yeah I hate this "too passive" argument that is often used to scum read me given my aggro meta. Fuck me for trying to be more chill in games amirite?

[SuperJack]

Laziness, yet annoyance at a result he did nothing to prevent.

I'm disappointed in you SJ that you've reverted to this.

:/ oh well at least you are evil though.

[BananaCucho]

:/ oh well at least you are evil though.

Fite me IRL

[SuperJack]

Fite me IRL

no

[BananaCucho]

Coward.

[SuperJack]

Coward.

yeh

[MattZed]

TBH Mattyboy, you really appear to be pressuring Banna for personal reasons. Could you explain your reasoning on Banna more?

I don't recall any legitimate reasons, and your reads are very important today. I'd help add pressure if L needs it, but I don't want to be putting my vote on someone solely because they are being semi-insulting.

I'd rather pressure someone who seems legitimately scummy, or who tried to fly under radar d1.

You mean aside from the constant shadethrowing in my direction?

Insincerity about the ika train (unvoting at L-2 once ika asks to be lynched), a failure to re-evaluate FB after finding out Fire's alleged meta to troll doesn't exist, extreme refusal to explain reads, only focusing on the top trains, derailing thread via fluff for most posts from #300-#500, and a lack of followthrough on prods. (bothering Stealth about hopping on the ika train for proposing a bloc only after the train built, and then completely letting Stealth off of the hook after, for instance)

I truly scumread BC's D1 play. D2 has shown slightly more promise.

But while we're on the subject of BC, you seem to have been harboring a trust of BC since basically the start of the game. Can you explain this?

[MattZed]

@Gyrlander , and @SilverWolf , please stop voting each other. I'm completely fine with you both right now, and I'm not going to allow your trains to derail today. Gyrlander wears his agenda on his sleeve, and although he is less experienced at picking up on scumtells, it's clear he's looking for it and trying to get things done. SW, on the other hand, I'm willing to pardon on the basis of meta; I honestly cannot recall a time SW did not suspect someone for pressuring her. It's a poor read, but it's not anything scummy on top of SW's usual game. I am bothered that SW's tone is completely misplaced, joking where she seldom jokes and being enraged at the smallest accusation, she's not one of the top suspects right now.

Let's move on, you two. One HUGE failure of yesterday was everyone refusing to look past their #1 scumread, if they even had one. Consider other possibilities that you haven't explored; they may be more likely when you think about them.

[MattZed]

Meh just ignore him. I'm annoyed that Ika was lynched but thats been done with. Lets avange his death by winning.

You don't get the right to try to pocket SW until you've actually justified that you're town. Yes, it's good to be polite to players, but let's have some scumhunting before you start trying to curry favor with the slot that can't stand being pressured.

You say BC and Crypt are the scums. But why?

[Firebringer]

Fite me IRL

When and where baby?

[Firebringer]

Meh just ignore him. I'm annoyed that Ika was lynched but thats been done with. Lets avange his death by winning.

Ur scum aren't you?
You were the sacrifice

-vote Cryptonic

[SilverWolf]

One HUGE failure of yesterday was everyone refusing to look past their #1 scumread, if they even had one. Consider other possibilities that you haven't explored; they may be more likely when you think about them.

You and Stealthbomber were the only ones who expressed an actual scumread on ika. Everyone else pushed a policy lynch on him. I will say it's kind of interesting that crypt unvoted you and didn't put a vote back on ika. Could be he didn't want to be on a Town wagon.

[Mesk514]

Changing trains cause I believe mattzed is town. And I don't mind following him

-vote Bananacucho

[Firebringer]

Changing trains cause I believe mattzed is town. And I don't mind following him

-vote Bananacucho

This vote sucks donkey dick

[Stealthbomber16]

Here's something nobody wanted but everyone needed.

Spoiler : SilverWolf ISO :

#9:

Are you starting a trust tell train ika?

In response to ika's post about being a citizen. Could be a joke, could be legit, too early in the game to devise anything from it.

#12:

Cool I'll just sheep Mesk this game then.

Front page shitpost. Nothing to see here.

#16:

Are you sure you wouldn't claim that as either alignment for WIFOM?

And if you really must know, yes.

The former is the basic response to a town tell

The latter is a response to a question about being a cit. Basic front page shitpost.

#31:

Why make an excuse to leave the thread already?

Legitimate response to Banana leaving.

#33:

I think ika is just playing a WIFOM game and not really doing the trust tell stuff here.

Unneeded response to something nobody was worrying about. I mark this as slightly fishy.

#66:

OK, but in the future just let the person I ask the question to answer it please.

Response to me answering one of her questions. I think this is slightly defensive but that's probably just me.

#77:

Terrible reasoning.

Response to a shitvote.

#81:

-vote Firebringer

Followed immediately by her own shitvote. Self contradiction.

#101:

Because you don't think town would WIFOM citizen here but I don't see how it's scum indicative.

Justification for her response in #77.

#106:

This completely contradicts your reasoning for voting for ika in the first place.

I now scumread you referring to Cryptonic and Firebringer.

This game is easy.

Can't tell if this is a legitimate read or not.

#111:

I don't believe scum would claim anything straight out of the gate. I'm not calling ika town. I just am not seeing scum motivation in what you are accusing him of.

Makes me think the previous read is legitimate.
Also if you're gonna follow this post, note her hesitance to claim cit in post #16, following straight in line with what she has said.

#121:

Yeah, don't bring my relationship with ika into the game. I have legit reasons for not liking your reasoning on that vote.

FB has done nothing but claim scum and troll.

Defensive response to a shitpost from crypt. Getting a scummy vibe from this.

#124:

Yes, but what I'm saying is they wouldn't likely do it in their first post. On the topic of claiming citizen as kira. It's certainly possible but not likely IMO.

This is a terrible response. Also silver didn't claim cit in her first post. Contradiction.

#139:

NAI, as I do with any sort of claim in an opening post. On the topic of claiming citizen as kira.

How the hell did this slip get past everybody? SilverWolf literally just claimed (#124) that Kira is unlikely to claim citizen in opening post. This SHOULD result in a town read but it evidently isn't. Major contradiction.

#186:

Is it just my imagination or does MattZ sound really robotic here?

Also, FB why are you townreading me? I haven't done jack shit this game yet.

Passive-aggressive way of starting a train on MattZ, followed by a read question.

#222:

Really? So why are you taking ika's wanting to form a townbloc joke as serious business then? I took that as a joke because when he did it as scum in Lazy, he basically went all theory talk about it and went on about it at length and not just lol we are all citizen townblock. In response to forming a townblock.

Indication that SilverWolf did not read ika's posts or that she did read them and chose to ignore them because ika claimed that he was semi-serious about forming a block in this game.

#223:

-unvote

I like some of FB's latest post better than his beginning ones.

Unvoting her shitvote which she then tries to justify.

#225:

-vote MattZed

For being a robot especially compared to his last town game, Empire.

She sees the train possibility picking up speed and hops on it.

#226:

ika calling it semiserious doesn't mean it's serious business.

ika-Were you serious or not with that semi serious quote?

Literally discrediting another post by saying "its ika".

#229:

I guess I thought it was a joke too so I'm not sure why it's vote worthy.

Doubling back and creating an almost contradiction with the words "I guess".
Note the defensive posture.

#230:

ika are you gonna just troll the whole game because that meme is getting old fast

I think this is borderline fluff.

#251:

I'm not a fan of this. You and ika both have 3 votes. You come in here, vote ika off nothing that is alignment indicative whatsoever to make him the biggest wagon. I mean, he's an easy target right now for scum to go after. He's trolling, claiming citizen, doing smilies. I mean, this isn't great play but I don't think it's what lone scum would do here. Why draw so much attention to yourself?

His silence doesn't say anything. He was active when here. He works overnights so he's gonna be out awhile and then sleeping. Talking about policy lynching is WTF. Why ika when others are also being trolly and not doing much?

ika is demotivated, I can read it in his posts but tbh, I think if he was kira he wouldn't be because he'd want to recruit me N1 so we can be scum together. He's wanted us to be on the same scumteam for a long time and not just as a *****.

Why don't you poke him and figure out what he's thinking?
ika, -Why are you voting MattZ?

You explained a townread on me. Do you have one on anyone else?

Anyone else you think is scummy?

Her train is going well and so she must defend the other wagon to put some more momentum on it.

Also, reading into the defense, I'd like to add that her points are:
"Why him when there are other options"
"He works overnights"
"He would be more energetic if he were Kira"
And my personal favorite, the "he told me this irl".
Then she prods ika in order to seem in the right either way. Weak defense and scummy end to it.

#262:

ika stop with the damn shit posting or I'll vote you myself

Fluff.

#270:

Ika is Town

Fluff.

#271:

Gyrlander could be kira

Fluff.

#282:

As much as I would want to, I'd never convert ika as kira in this setup because if one of us was lynched, the other would be turbo lynched next.

I'd probably try to convert Cryptonic instead or just kill every night and make L a glorified citizen.

Attempt at kira strategy spec that fails because of two reasons:
This is spec about her actions as Kira
This spec is completely useless as putting her as Kira because she will intentionally go against these actions. In fact, if Crypt IS second kira, it would make her a better town read.

#313

The reason I object to the IRL relationship being brought up is I don't want people to just blow off my defense of ika as because we are dating. I do have the most experience with ika here and know how he thinks game wise probably better than anyone. I have said several reasons why I think he's town.

-he is drawing too much negative attention to himself


-his play doesn't look anything like Empire
trying to meta ika

-he is demotivated and idgaf which I don't believe he'd be like if he were kira
trying to meta ika

-his explanation to me about why he was doing what he was doing was very sincere
TRYING TO META IKA

If you guys want to lynch him for playing this way if we can't agree on a better scumread that's fine. But I want to know why ika is being singled out when there are others who are barely playing or just trolling and they aren't. I can answer this for myself but maybe not for everyone. I voted ika over other trolls like mesk because ika was actively disrupting chat instead of just not contributing. It was worse than not contributing. I would PREFER he didn't contribute instead of doing that. It kind of bugs me and that plus the demotivation is going to auto make me defend ika. Especially because this doesn't look like scum at all. Being stubborn about not answering anyone again, looks more like idgaf town. trying to meta ika
ika-talk to me about why you think Firebringer is scum, I scumread him off his entrance but then he picked it up and looked better

I think Kira is gonna either be super tryhard and townie looking like MattZ, or gonna be completely under the radar like Gyrlander or maybe SJ or Mesk. MattZ just looks to planned out to me for lack of better wording. Like all his posts are controlled. It lacks the easygoing feel of town. However, if he is town, I agree with Crypt about how he'd be more useful keeping around for awhile.
This is a self-contradiction in an attempt to make her seem justified either way the lynch goes: if he claims L, or if he flips cit.

The ones playing UTR could also be kira just letting the lynch of an active townie go through. I don't have strong reads on these players either way so hard to say but it's strategy kira could use to avoid the lynch and stay alive long enough to recruit.


I am leaning town on Cryptonic and Bananacucho. I like the flow of their conversation in the thread. It feels natural plus they are actively scumhunting.

Not sure about Stealthbomber yet either.

So a lot of who knows for me, a few town leans, and a small scumread on MattZ.

Scum enough to vote and lead a train off of him.

That's where I'm at right now.

This is just one long post that doesn't really state anything more than two sentences of useful material.

#317:

Under the Radar



I actually believe you since this is in line with your citizen play in the last 2 games I was in with you.

Answering a question and a contradiction with her #313 fluff wall.

#335:

ika's the easiest mislynch in the game right now, it's exactly what scum does, lol

This post semi-conflicts with her "small scumread on matt" in #313.

#336:

So apparently the game never removed multi quotes. Ignore the first two.

Fluff.

#337:

I actually agree with ika that scum is either MZ or FB at this point. Everyone else has done townie things here and there and I can point them out if you need me to.

Produced a scum read on FB out of thin air and changed my null read to slight town.

#338: (Note the quadruple post!)

No, the choices are not that he tries to sabatoge the site or he's scum. He put a big long post about why he's doing it. Whether or not you agree with his reasoning is up for debate but that's what he decided to do this game. I don't understand why you refuse to see how ika can be town or how a town player can behave like this.

I don't really know what to make of this post because it has some towny elements in the sense that ika flipped town, but it also has scummy elements in the fact that she didn't actually go back and find anything to support her claim.

#340: (Still a short downtime. She is spacing out her posts to make it seem like she is contributing more than she actually is.)

Lynch MZ with fire today and if he flips town, kill FB tomorrow.

FB is perfectly capable of trolling hard as scum.

Restating one of her last posts. Fluff.

#345:

Fuck off

Triggered.

#346:

Like seriously, fuck you Firebringer.

I want either you or me out of the game. I know moving my vote means ika is more likely to be lynched but I don't give a fuck at this point.

Remind me never to play a game here again.

-vote Firebringer

Literally jumps off of the train to trigger-vote FB, contradicting what she said NOT BUT 6 POSTS AGO!


#348

Like, I have said repeatedly why what ika is doing could come from town. He's up for a lynch so of course I'm gonna talk about it more.

I've also given my opinion on other things.

No one fucking listens to a damn word. It's all about, ika and silverwolf are just defending each other. Let's policy ika cuz he and SW are defending each other. Let's policy ika cuz he's shit posting.

Fuck this crap. I'm not dealing with it further. Go ahead and lynch ika. Please lynch me tomorrow then or do it now if you prefer.

I have nothing else to add.

I don't like this post.
It could be because all of her last 10 posts were either defending ika or tunneling matt.

#370:

-vote MattZed

Revote.

#373:

MattZed's posts look fake as hell and I can't ignore it.

I was just pissed at Firebringer. I said vote him or me so that should explain it

Restate.
Admittedly, she was asked a question but note as the train picks up speed and becomes a possibility she becomes more aggressive.

#388:

I do it as either alignment. Pretty sure we did it in the last illuminati game when you were trying to mislynch us and wouldn't surprise me if we did it as Moogle if you were frustrating us at all for scumreading us.

I didn't as neutral in Empire but that's an exception. Not the rule.

Basically, if I 1v1 someone, it's NAI for me unless I'm SK.

I don't really know what to make of this post honestly because its a lot of meta-style defense.

#390:

I will defend my townreads, even if it's ika. If I was townreading someone else and they were up for a lynch, I'd argue against it.

If I was hardcore scumreading ika, I'd push to lynch his ass.

My issue with this is the way you were defending was entirely meta and my experience with ika was literally what he was doing in that game. As both scum and town.

#440:

Gyrlander most likely since he's hard for me to read.

Response to my question. I think it's legitimate.

#441:

Considering there is only one scum in this set-up, this doesn't make much sense.

I don't like this response. Its implying that she knows both of the following
- Ika is town
- Matt is Kira.

But she doesn't. In fact her last read included FB being a backup scum read.

#445:

I will kick your ass so hard.

Just gonna ignore this post because its NAI. Can't get anything from it.

#448:

There's only one scum so who is the scum making all the townies vote you?

Gonna point out that at this point in time SW was the ONLY ONE really making cases against Matt.

#496:

I'm gonna change my stealthbomber read from null to town.

This is the only post after a long time gap and it is one sentence. I don't like this at all.
Also, thats ignoring the fact that she hadn't included me in any of her lynch standings before that.

#523:

Please do not give him reasons to scumread me. Let him come up with his own.

I stated in the thread that I didn't like this post and I understand why now after doing this ISO.
This is exactly what SW was doing for MattZed. It is extremely hypocritical.

#524:

FB never voted for me. In fact, he's townreading me. You are clearly not reading the game. I know reading is hard but it's kind of essential to playing this game. How can you scumread me off an interaction you didn't even read and for something that didn't even happen? You just pulled shit out of your ass.

I also don't like how you say I could be Kira due to my defense of ika, then put me in a do not lynch list after that, then scumread me again for the same reason. Again, you can't keep your story straight.

If you don't like my posts you should be reading them first. Derp.

-vote Gyrlander

Out of the blue, Gyr is now a top scumread for misreading a post.

#525:

@ika

Why are you voting for Gyrlander. I didn't see a reason given.

Pink fluffy unicorns dancing on rainbows.

#526:

Please, please, please stop with this.

Once again spacing out her posts so it multiplies her fluff.

#543:

You are so sure I'm Kira despite me tearing your reasons apart in about 2 seconds, and are ready to shout it from the rooftops in neon colors, but you still want ika dead because he's got more votes and pressure.

I don't care how high you are. You aren't scumhunting. Just pushing lynches on bad reasoning. So I'm fine with my vote right where it's at.

This is the first thing that SW has said in almost the entire ISO so far that I think is absolutely 100% legitimate.
Gyr is tearing into her yet leaving his vote on ika because a SW lynch won't happen. My next ISO will probably be gyrlander off of this one post alone.

#544:

Now that it blew up in your face, it's a reaction test. Aren't you voting for SuperJack?

More legitimacy. This does not, however, coincide with the actions she was doing earlier. I personally think this is NAI to an extent but you can interpret this as you will

#552:

Yeah, you never said anything about it I see.

Pointing out a gyrlander contradiction.

#554:

ika, I'm afraid if you continue down the path you are taking, you will be lynched for it

Fluff.

#561:

Fine, I get what you are doing. I don't like it but I get it. I doubt I'll be able to troll like you tomorrow though. It's not in my nature in these games.

If you get to L-1 and I'm online, I'll hammer.

Agreeing to hammer her top townread despite understanding his ideas.


#569:

I will be leaving for my radiation appt. in 2 hours time. I will be gone until after end of day. If ika is at L-1, I will hammer. Otherwise, I'll put him to L-1 to avoid a NL situation. I'm resigned to an ika lynch. I think he's too much of a distraction for kira to hide and tomorrow I'd like us to concentrate on actually scumhunting and not policy lynching. There is always the chance that ika has completely fooled me and he's kira so let's clear this up today and not have this same argument tomorrow.

Mostly fluff but also a contradiction. Highlighted white for your convenience.

#580 & #582 (Can be grouped into one response):

It's shit here. Cold as hell.

About 13 but windchill -3.

Fluff

#603

I wholeheartedly support that gyrlander vote.

Yet she doesnt move her vote.

#605

I think Stealthbomber is town.

Hey, that's a first.
Anyway, its good to note that she doesn't ever explain why.

#615 & #616

Guys, I have to go to my appointment. I will be mobile and can check the game but I'm not sure I'll be back in time for EoD.

I can also mobile vote if necessary and will check before EoD to see if it's needed.

Information on where you'll be for EoD is always welcome.

#631

I will be on the road driving and no guarantee I will be back before EoD. I am not confident ika will flip Kira. I will vote him only to stop the distraction he's become.

-vote ika

L-1

sorry ika

Putting ika to L-1. Pretty self explanitory.

Overall I think that, especially in the first half of Day 1, SW was pretty all over the place. Several contradictions and a few major scumslips that were really discovered once I read into her play for real and understood it. Which is why my vote will be going to silverwolf to start the day off.

-vote SilverWolf

I'll hopefully be somewhat active over these next few days, no promises though. I may not be around for most of saturday.

[Stealthbomber16]

Hey fuck you Kira. You don't think I was worth converting huh?

Also, if L is anyone OTHER than MattZ, you need to come out now!!

I fully expected MattZed to die last night. I don't know why Kira would want to convert when L is alive. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Didn't even see this post LOL. This is scummy as shit.

[SilverWolf]

Didn't even see this post LOL. This is scummy as shit.

Fuck you. You suck at this game.

[SilverWolf]

-unvote

You know what. I want to be lynched. Both gyrlander and Stealthbomber took every single thing I said and decided it was scum. My bad for being active and trying to figure out the game.

You guys couldn't catch Kira, if it jumped out of the woodwork with a neon sign that said Kira.

You are going after active people trying to figure out the game, saying everything they are doing is scum or scummy with NO SCUM INDICATIVE REAONING while ignoring people who aren't doing shit.

I'm seriously not gonna waste my time on a game where idiots lynch ika for policy reasons and are jumping all over me to the point I can't scumhunt because you won't fucking let me.

Get me out of this game.

Lynch me please.

I'm serious. I would rather pull my hair out one by one than deal with this BS.

[SilverWolf]

Here's something nobody wanted but everyone needed.

Spoiler : SilverWolf ISO :

#9:
In response to ika's post about being a citizen. Could be a joke, could be legit, too early in the game to devise anything from it.

#12:
Front page shitpost. Nothing to see here.

#16:
The former is the basic response to a town tell

The latter is a response to a question about being a cit. Basic front page shitpost.

#31:

Legitimate response to Banana leaving.

#33:
Unneeded response to something nobody was worrying about. I mark this as slightly fishy.

#66:
Response to me answering one of her questions. I think this is slightly defensive but that's probably just me.

#77:
Response to a shitvote.

#81:
Followed immediately by her own shitvote. Self contradiction.

#101:
Justification for her response in #77.

#106:
Can't tell if this is a legitimate read or not.

#111:
Makes me think the previous read is legitimate.
Also if you're gonna follow this post, note her hesitance to claim cit in post #16, following straight in line with what she has said.

#121:
Defensive response to a shitpost from crypt. Getting a scummy vibe from this.

#124:
This is a terrible response. Also silver didn't claim cit in her first post. Contradiction.

#139:
How the hell did this slip get past everybody? SilverWolf literally just claimed (#124) that Kira is unlikely to claim citizen in opening post. This SHOULD result in a town read but it evidently isn't. Major contradiction.

#186:
Passive-aggressive way of starting a train on MattZ, followed by a read question.

#222:
Indication that SilverWolf did not read ika's posts or that she did read them and chose to ignore them because ika claimed that he was semi-serious about forming a block in this game.

#223:
Unvoting her shitvote which she then tries to justify.

#225:
She sees the train possibility picking up speed and hops on it.

#226:
Literally discrediting another post by saying "its ika".

#229:

Doubling back and creating an almost contradiction with the words "I guess".
Note the defensive posture.

#230:
I think this is borderline fluff.

#251:
Her train is going well and so she must defend the other wagon to put some more momentum on it.

Also, reading into the defense, I'd like to add that her points are:
"Why him when there are other options"
"He works overnights"
"He would be more energetic if he were Kira"
And my personal favorite, the "he told me this irl".
Then she prods ika in order to seem in the right either way. Weak defense and scummy end to it.

#262:
Fluff.

#270:
Fluff.

#271:
Fluff.

#282:
Attempt at kira strategy spec that fails because of two reasons:
This is spec about her actions as Kira
This spec is completely useless as putting her as Kira because she will intentionally go against these actions. In fact, if Crypt IS second kira, it would make her a better town read.

#313
This is just one long post that doesn't really state anything more than two sentences of useful material.

#317:
Answering a question and a contradiction with her #313 fluff wall.

#335:
This post semi-conflicts with her "small scumread on matt" in #313.

#336:
Fluff.

#337:
Produced a scum read on FB out of thin air and changed my null read to slight town.

#338: (Note the quadruple post!)

I don't really know what to make of this post because it has some towny elements in the sense that ika flipped town, but it also has scummy elements in the fact that she didn't actually go back and find anything to support her claim.

#340: (Still a short downtime. She is spacing out her posts to make it seem like she is contributing more than she actually is.)

Restating one of her last posts. Fluff.

#345:
Triggered.

#346:
Literally jumps off of the train to trigger-vote FB, contradicting what she said NOT BUT 6 POSTS AGO!


#348
I don't like this post.
It could be because all of her last 10 posts were either defending ika or tunneling matt.

#370:
Revote.

#373:
Restate.
Admittedly, she was asked a question but note as the train picks up speed and becomes a possibility she becomes more aggressive.

#388:
I don't really know what to make of this post honestly because its a lot of meta-style defense.

#390:
My issue with this is the way you were defending was entirely meta and my experience with ika was literally what he was doing in that game. As both scum and town.

#440:
Response to my question. I think it's legitimate.

#441:
I don't like this response. Its implying that she knows both of the following
- Ika is town
- Matt is Kira.

But she doesn't. In fact her last read included FB being a backup scum read.

#445:
Just gonna ignore this post because its NAI. Can't get anything from it.

#448:
Gonna point out that at this point in time SW was the ONLY ONE really making cases against Matt.

#496:
This is the only post after a long time gap and it is one sentence. I don't like this at all.
Also, thats ignoring the fact that she hadn't included me in any of her lynch standings before that.

#523:
I stated in the thread that I didn't like this post and I understand why now after doing this ISO.
This is exactly what SW was doing for MattZed. It is extremely hypocritical.

#524:
Out of the blue, Gyr is now a top scumread for misreading a post.

#525:

Pink fluffy unicorns dancing on rainbows.

#526:

Once again spacing out her posts so it multiplies her fluff.

#543:

This is the first thing that SW has said in almost the entire ISO so far that I think is absolutely 100% legitimate.
Gyr is tearing into her yet leaving his vote on ika because a SW lynch won't happen. My next ISO will probably be gyrlander off of this one post alone.

#544:

More legitimacy. This does not, however, coincide with the actions she was doing earlier. I personally think this is NAI to an extent but you can interpret this as you will

#552:

Pointing out a gyrlander contradiction.

#554:

Fluff.

#561:

Agreeing to hammer her top townread despite understanding his ideas.


#569:

Mostly fluff but also a contradiction. Highlighted white for your convenience.

#580 & #582 (Can be grouped into one response):


Fluff

#603

Yet she doesnt move her vote.

#605

Hey, that's a first.
Anyway, its good to note that she doesn't ever explain why.

#615 & #616


Information on where you'll be for EoD is always welcome.

#631

Putting ika to L-1. Pretty self explanitory.

Overall I think that, especially in the first half of Day 1, SW was pretty all over the place. Several contradictions and a few major scumslips that were really discovered once I read into her play for real and understood it. Which is why my vote will be going to silverwolf to start the day off.

-vote SilverWolf

I'll hopefully be somewhat active over these next few days, no promises though. I may not be around for most of saturday.

Major scumslips? Are you fucking serious? I'm not scum you dolt. I can't scumlip. Nothing you pointed out is a slip.

You're an idiot. Keep mislynching townies unless you were converted then I change it to good job you scum fuck.

[Mesk514]

Silverwolf is for sure town keep your votes off of her

[SilverWolf]

Number #1 rule playing on SC2. Don't be active.

Rule #2. Don't joke around if you don't have a history of it because apparently then you are scum for it.

Rule #3. If everyone is trolling, pick out the one trolling the most and whine all game about killing him. Then when he's mislynched, be a complet and utter idiot town or scum and try to kill the next active person who has been trying to figure things out and ignore everyone who isn't doing shit.

Rule #4 Make sure you ISO them and say they slipped and their posts are scummy as fuck and point out every post and put scum motivation to it. When they flip town, shrug your shoulders and mislynch someone else.

Rule #5 Lose the game and then go "oh well, on to the next one"

[SilverWolf]

I'm putting no further effort into this game. I'm done dealing with idiots or scum. Sorry I tried. Won't make that mistake again.

[MattZed]

@SilverWolf , as I said multiple times, town can scumread town. That doesnt mean you can just respond by calling them stupid. Most people will listen to reason if the case on you is bad.

If you truly don't wish to play, please replace out instead of refusing to play. Otherwise, just explain why Stealth is wrong.

[Firebringer]

Yeah silverwolf is town and Grylander and stealth should look other places.
I don't like silver attitude though. Kind of silly but hey I'd be a hypocrite to say I haven't acted like this.

[Firebringer]

Yeah silverwolf is town and Grylander and stealth should look other places.
I don't like silver attitude though. Kind of silly but hey I'd be a hypocrite to say I haven't acted like this.

Well I am still a hypocrite, I am just self aware of it.
That makes it slightly better!

[SilverWolf]

Spoiler : Stealthbomber16 ISO :

I AM KIRA!

Guys, guys, how did we not see this obvious scumclaim right here? WTF is wrong with us? Are we blind?

[Gyrlander]

Guys, guys, how did we not see this obvious scumclaim right here? WTF is wrong with us? Are we blind?

Huh? Have you gone crazy already?

[SuperJack]

SilverWolf. Please. Help me lynch Banana.

[SuperJack]

Huh? Have you gone crazy already?

Gyrlander. Stop this fricken shit before I slap the fuck outta you.

[Gyrlander]

Gyrlander. Stop this fricken shit before I slap the fuck outta you.

Shut up and give a clear reason to lynch Banana.

[Mesk514]

Damn I got so drunk I called the asians that brought me home the Mexican help.

[Mesk514]

On that note

-vote unvote

I'm not joking guys, I came home with one shoe.

[Mesk514]

I need some serious help. My stomach is so soft. 1 beer before any liquor is GG for me.
How do I explain to my boyfriend that I only own 1 normal people shoe now. He won't let me bring out the af1s

[SuperJack]

Shut up and give a clear reason to lynch Banana.

Shut up and give a clear reason to not lynch Banana.

[Mesk514]

Got so drunk Jesus was telling me I was gonna die and stealth bomber is scum.
No joke though I actually thought I was dying. Damn you bootleggers

[Cryptonic]

Let me be salty. ika was lynched for WTF reasons, gyrlander is antagonizing me like a little bitch, other people are barely posting, and yeah Banana is bugging me too-he's way too passive, crypt is doing a lot of saying something without saying anything, but fuck gyrlander and his crap that's gone on for 2 days-he decides to stop his garbage then I'll vote Banana. Until then, fuck that guy.

Lol I've barely had time to post today yet, how am I doing a lot of anything? Please explain, I do not understand your accusation.

[Mesk514]

I have no clue what is even going on

[Mesk514]

Someone pleeez explain for a fragile soul like me