S-FM 193: Final Fantasy VII

[Gyrlander]

Given MZ made such a big deal out of this 1v1, I don't think we have a real choice but to lynch him honestly. Given all the back and forth and different reactions on MZ v. BC, we're going to get more out of that lynch at this point. We don't have the time or will to switch back to SJ.

I really didn't like what he used as reasons "This is the mayor's train" and so. But... well. If there is no chance of changing our oppinion and MZ isn't coming back, why not just lynch him?

[DarknessB]

I really didn't like what he used as reasons "This is the mayor's train" and so. But... well. If there is no chance of changing our oppinion and MZ isn't coming back, why not just lynch him?

Up to you, Mayor -- we could also use the remaining time to discuss. If you don't think anything else productive is going to come out of the remaining time, you could hammer though. Some people have strong opinions about using all remaining time though.

[BananaCucho]

He's never making Jr Jr Fire Lizard 2016 now, is he?

MZ is very bad at Mafia but he knows to claim in that situation. Give him a sliver of credit.

He probably figured he'd get me mislynched, hadn't looked up what he was going to fake claim, and took off without claiming.

[HeadShrinker]

The way MZ is playing I am even more concerned he is scum and the one we need to LYNCH RIGHT NOW.

Why would a townie leave and be left to die? Sure scum would fight tooth and nail for a few hours to avoid a train but when it is inevitable it makes sense to just go silent.

Lets just drop this hammer.

Grylander, when your vote is so easily swayed it makes people think you suck at playing.

[GameFreak]

I'm too drunk to read into the last hour so i'll stick my vote where i have it during the day , for me its SJ or notning.

[Calix]

If you're going to hammer, give a warning first. It's customary.

[DarknessB]

The way MZ is playing I am even more concerned he is scum and the one we need to LYNCH RIGHT NOW.

Why would a townie leave and be left to die? Sure scum would fight tooth and nail for a few hours to avoid a train but when it is inevitable it makes sense to just go silent.

Lets just drop this hammer.

Grylander, when your vote is so easily swayed it makes people think you suck at playing.

MZ is getting hammered at this point -- just a question of whether anyone has anything left to say today.

[Gyrlander]

Headshrinker, would like it if you didn't call me a horrible player in every post you write. If you were applied so much pressure by every player I'm sure you wouldn't have been so relaxed ;)

And guys, I think I'm hammering this. MZ is clearly not coming back. He probably isn't Sephiroth but who knows if he is AVALANCHE. Well, I'll drop the hammer in 2 minutes or so. If you want time just tell me.

[Shifty]

@Shifty Are the materia given at the start of the night immediatly?

Yes.

[Gyrlander]

May God have mercy upon your soul, MattZed.

-vote MattZed

If he's actually town. I'll be pissed.

[The Godfather]

MattZed has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


MattZed (7 [L-0]): Saik0Shinigami, Gyrlander (Mayor), pisskop, HeadShrinker, BananaCucho, AIVION
BananaCucho (1 [L-6]): MattZed
SuperJack (2 [L-5]): GameFreak, Calix
Saik0Shinigami (1 [L-6]): powerofdeath

[The Godfather]

MattZed has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


MattZed (7 [L-0]): Saik0Shinigami, Gyrlander (Mayor), pisskop, HeadShrinker, BananaCucho, AIVION
BananaCucho (1 [L-6]): MattZed
SuperJack (2 [L-5]): GameFreak, Calix
Saik0Shinigami (1 [L-6]): powerofdeath

[Shifty]

S-FM FINAL FANTASY VII
Night One

Spoiler : Story (may contain in-game spoilers) :

"Little by little the reactors'll drain out all the life. And that'll be that."

"It's not my problem." Cloud responded nonchalantly.

"The planet's dyin', Cloud!"

"The only thing I care about is finishin' this job before security and the Roboguards come." Cloud replied coldy before walking towards reactor's pressure valve, setting the bomb to 20 minutes, leaving them enough time to reach a safe distance.

MattZed has been lynched. He was a Shinra Employee.
He left no last will.

Alive:
1. BananaCucho
2. SuperJack
3. Gyrlander
4. Excalibur
5. AIVION
6. pisskop
7. Calix
8. powerofdeath
9. GameFreak
10. HeadShrinker
11. Saik0Shinigami
12. DarknessB

Graveyard:
MattZed - Shinra Employee

Quicklinks:
Link to Setup
Day 1 Start
Night 1 Start
Day 2 Start

Night ends

• 00

• 00

• 00

• 00

DAYS HOURS MINUTES SECONDS

[Shifty]

S-FM FINAL FANTASY VII
Day Two

Spoiler : Story (may contain in-game spoilers) :

The detonation finally came. A huge fireball, sooaring into the sky, and the red flames of the crumbling reactor lighting up the city. Cloud pulled the manhole cover closed as he surveyed the remote blaze beyond the rooftops, until all was submerged by smoke. Trotting silently down the dark cobbled lane, he caught up with the others a number of paces in front of him, his ears still resonating with the blast.

Excalibur has been killed. He was a Shinra Employee.
He left no last will.

Alive:
1. BananaCucho
2. SuperJack
3. Gyrlander
4. AIVION
5. pisskop
6. Calix
7. powerofdeath
8. GameFreak
9. HeadShrinker
10. Saik0Shinigami
11. DarknessB

Graveyard:
MattZed - Shinra Employee
Excalibur - Shinra Employee

Quicklinks:
Link to Setup
Day 1 Start
Night 1 Start
Day 2 Start


Day ends

• 00

• 00

• 00

• 00

DAYS HOURS MINUTES SECONDS

6 votes to hammer.

[SuperJack]

LOL thanks scum for killing inactive player now we can get down to business

[Gyrlander]

I'll be clear guys. There has only been 1 kill and got a roleblock materia last night. Used it on AIVION. Also, AIVION vote on Mattzed was horrible.

It's a beautiful day outside.

Birds are singing, flowers are blooming.

But kids like you....

-vote AIVION

SHOULD BE BURNING IN HELL

[SuperJack]

Anyways me and GameFreak was playing a game of call of duty when all of a sudden power of death game along

power of death found our chat to be way understupid so he invited us to ventrillo

turns out its shit so i went back to the english teamspeak with darknessb

turns out banana was there already on teamspeak. and it was not good at all

becayse she lauged at AIVIONS socks.

[DarknessB]

Who the heck would have targeted Excalibur? I'm guessing that means the scum isn't anyone who knows this site well, because Excalibur was essentially replace out bait. I suppose there could have been something else weird going on like a Bus Driver (Palmer), if we have one, swapping Excalibur with someone who was likely to be targeted.

[DarknessB]

I'll be clear guys. There has only been 1 kill and got a roleblock materia last night. Used it on AIVION. Also, AIVION vote on Mattzed was horrible.

It's a beautiful day outside.

Birds are singing, flowers are blooming.

But kids like you....

-vote AIVION

SHOULD BE BURNING IN HELL

His vote did seem quite opportunistic -- i.e. he got back into the game and immediately jumped on a train. I think you might be onto something here. Let's use the day to discuss though and not be quick hammer derp types. That said, I'll put my vote on for now.

-vote AIVION

[Gyrlander]

See guys? I was right Mattzed was not scum. I should have followed my heart, instead of falling to your continuous flaming.

Also, DarknessB, considering that you added suddenly added yourself to that train is a thing I won't forget. Right now I'm considering AIVION and you being scum partners.

[Saik0Shinigami]

I'll be clear guys. There has only been 1 kill and got a roleblock materia last night. Used it on AIVION. Also, AIVION vote on Mattzed was horrible.

It's a beautiful day outside.

Birds are singing, flowers are blooming.

But kids like you....

-vote AIVION

SHOULD BE BURNING IN HELL

You roleblocked AIVION during the night? Well that's pretty damning. Are we just going to forget the whole nonsense about Banana though? I honestly don't know if I read that as TvT. I'm seriously leaning PoD, AIVION, and Banana now. Still updating my information in my matrix though. Anyone else take any actions last night? I wasn't fortunate enough to be bestowed a materia (Thanks @Shifty ... Jerk /s).

[pisskop]

excaliber was a free kill. it shows that they feel secure

[SuperJack]

See guys? I was right Mattzed was not scum. I should have followed my heart, instead of falling to your continuous flaming.

Also, DarknessB, considering that you added suddenly added yourself to that train is a thing I won't forget. Right now I'm considering AIVION and you being scum partners.

Gyrlander. Do you trust me?

[SuperJack]

Oh yeh thanks guys for starting a train on me whilst I was not around. Good job.

[Gyrlander]

Gyrlander. Do you trust me?

I do so. At least, in part.

[DarknessB]

See guys? I was right Mattzed was not scum. I should have followed my heart, instead of falling to your continuous flaming.

Also, DarknessB, considering that you added suddenly added yourself to that train is a thing I won't forget. Right now I'm considering AIVION and you being scum partners.

Dude, what did we just say about fucking pre-flip associations? Holy crap man -- DO NOT MAKE PRE-FLIP ASSOCIATIONS. I know you are confirmed Town, but that's still not an excuse to act scummy in ways that will harm our scumhunting.

I didn't suddenly add myself to that train -- I started the train in the first place because I was getting frustrated by MattZed's manipulative posts regarding "the Mayor's train" and whatnot. His 1v1 was also very poorly timed and as stated yesterday, I would have preferred going for either AIVION, SJ, or POD, but felt we didn't have a choice given MZ was making the end of the day about his 1v1.

[DarknessB]

excaliber was a free kill. it shows that they feel secure

My theory is Bus Driver -- no scum is that stupid.

[SuperJack]

I do so. At least, in part.

Good because what you said about me is absolutely true.

[Gyrlander]

Good because what you said about me is absolutely true.

What did I just say about you?

[Saik0Shinigami]

Dude, what did we just say about fucking pre-flip associations? Holy crap man -- DO NOT MAKE PRE-FLIP ASSOCIATIONS. I know you are confirmed Town, but that's still not an excuse to act scummy in ways that will harm our scumhunting.

I didn't suddenly add myself to that train -- I started the train in the first place because I was getting frustrated by MattZed's manipulative posts regarding "the Mayor's train" and whatnot. His 1v1 was also very poorly timed and as stated yesterday, I would have preferred going for either AIVION, SJ, or POD, but felt we didn't have a choice given MZ was making the end of the day about his 1v1.

I'm still not sold SJ... I am almost sold on AIVION and PoD from what I've seen. I still need to hear if there was a second materia used and what it was though before I delve more into it. I need to make more adjustments to my lists though before I go and call what I want to vote or present how I feel.

Are we just going to leave the whole Banana vs Matt thing as a TvT stupidity?

[SuperJack]

What did I just say about you?

Everything I've done LOL JUST PUNCH MYSELF IN THE FACE had a reason.
You was just acting so scummy. Just to the point where only a stupid scum would be in your position, that or someone who is a TPR. You had confidence in your scummy posts. (Ignore other people calling your play bad. It is not bad, it's just not their play and they are generally assholes about it)

So yes, I made an obvious case of claiming you where town and refused to give reason. Because it give's scum the easy opportunity to easily push a scum read onto me for "Knowing you are town" and "White Knighting" you. Aka I decided to be Low Hanging Fruit again. And scum fell for it again. (Lol thick scum)
Which has been success full. Because it shows that Banana is an obvious scum player. Mattzed was right.

[BananaCucho]

I'll be clear guys. There has only been 1 kill and got a roleblock materia last night. Used it on AIVION. Also, AIVION vote on Mattzed was horrible.

It's a beautiful day outside.

Birds are singing, flowers are blooming.

But kids like you....

-vote AIVION

SHOULD BE BURNING IN HELL

The fact that you're not dead strongly implies that the Mafia doesn't see you as a threat and thinks you'll be easily manipulated into seeing things your way. You should be careful with your voting today and make sure you vote according to your own judgement and be wary of buddying attempts.

Oh yeh thanks guys for starting a train on me whilst I was not around. Good job.

I've had a change of heart. You're right, it was a mistake.

[SuperJack]

-vote BananaCucho

[BananaCucho]

-vote BananaCucho

I'm sorry you feel this way.

[Gyrlander]

I think AIVION is a better target today than Banana, I still have difficulties calling him scum.

[DarknessB]

Everything I've done LOL JUST PUNCH MYSELF IN THE FACE had a reason.
You was just acting so scummy. Just to the point where only a stupid scum would be in your position, that or someone who is a TPR. You had confidence in your scummy posts. (Ignore other people calling your play bad. It is not bad, it's just not their play and they are generally assholes about it)

So yes, I made an obvious case of claiming you where town and refused to give reason. Because it give's scum the easy opportunity to easily push a scum read onto me for "Knowing you are town" and "White Knighting" you. Aka I decided to be Low Hanging Fruit again. And scum fell for it again. (Lol thick scum)
Which has been success full. Because it shows that Banana is an obvious scum player. Mattzed was right.

Two points -- one meta and one non-meta.

Meta: Gyrlander was acting off the charts scummy -- I'm glad you (SuperJack) finally admit this. It is not the type of play which should be encouraged or called anything but what it was -- bad. I like you Grylander, but it really was bad and SuperJack should not be sugarcoating it as some brilliantly executed strategy or even a strategy that should be replicated in the future. You (Grylander) are a host-confirmable role and you were almost lynched on Day 1, being down to L-1 and the slow fingers of whomever that last player was (forget right now). Moreover, it created a huge distraction which sucked up most of Day 1 and deprived us of the opportunity to scumhunt further that day. It really was not a pro-Town play in any objective way. No one was being an asshole about calling you out on that play, except for the guy who said he wishes he would have lynched you even after you were revealed. Just a part of calling scummy play out when we see it. Nothing personal intended, but I hope you have learned a valuable lesson.

Non-Meta: I simply don't buy SuperJack's explanation here. It's far too self-serving and self-aggrandizing to be plausible to me. Townreading someone behaving that scummy is in fact a scummy action. I don't find it plausible that you tried to run some fancy reaction test. I know you aren't as low-hanging fruit as you like to portray, but at best, I regard your play as standing up for the underdog, and at worst, an attempt to white knight Grylander (if he died) or pocket Grylander (if he survived).

[Gyrlander]

Two points -- one meta and one non-meta.

Meta: Gyrlander was acting off the charts scummy -- I'm glad you (SuperJack) finally admit this. It is not the type of play which should be encouraged or called anything but what it was -- bad. I like you Grylander, but it really was bad and SuperJack should not be sugarcoating it as some brilliantly executed strategy or even a strategy that should be replicated in the future. You (Grylander) are a host-confirmable role and you were almost lynched on Day 1, being down to L-1 and the slow fingers of whomever that last player was (forget right now). Moreover, it created a huge distraction which sucked up most of Day 1 and deprived us of the opportunity to scumhunt further that day. It really was not a pro-Town play in any objective way. No one was being an asshole about calling you out on that play, except for the guy who said he wishes he would have lynched you even after you were revealed. Just a part of calling scummy play out when we see it. Nothing personal intended, but I hope you have learned a valuable lesson.

Non-Meta: I simply don't buy SuperJack's explanation here. It's far too self-serving and self-aggrandizing to be plausible to me. Townreading someone behaving that scummy is in fact a scummy action. I don't find it plausible that you tried to run some fancy reaction test. I know you aren't as low-hanging fruit as you like to portray, but at best, I regard your play as standing up for the underdog, and at worst, an attempt to white knight Grylander (if he died) or pocket Grylander (if he survived).

I like the fact you name me 1 Gyrlander the first time and then Grylander ROFL.

Also, there is no way I'm voting SUPERJACK. A town has died for pursuing Banana's lynch. If SJ wants to lynch Banana, it's fine. But I'm voting AIVION for the reasons I previously mentioned.

[BananaCucho]

@DarknessB

Its just bad play. SJ is acting like he played so smart, but all he's doing is latching onto me because I was he main pusher of MZ - but because he's lazy town, not scum. SJ is lazy town.

[DarknessB]

I like the fact you name me 1 Gyrlander the first time and then Grylander ROFL.

Also, there is no way I'm voting SUPERJACK. A town has died for pursuing Banana's lynch. If SJ wants to lynch Banana, it's fine. But I'm voting AIVION for the reasons I previously mentioned.

Yeah, your name is confusing man -- I can't keep the Grylander vs. Gyrlander right in my head. At the very least, when I type it fast, both variations come out, lol.

You have an actual tangible lead on AIVION that suggests he's the SK -- that seems like the best bet to me. Night action evidence over pure speculation, when we actually have it. I'm not suggesting voting SJ over AIVION, but more suggesting that I don't think he's being entirely forthcoming with that earlier explanation of his behavior to this point in the game.

[BananaCucho]

Yeah, your name is confusing man -- I can't keep the Grylander vs. Gyrlander right in my head. At the very least, when I type it fast, both variations come out, lol.

You have an actual tangible lead on AIVION that suggests he's the SK -- that seems like the best bet to me. Night action evidence over pure speculation, when we actually have it. I'm not suggesting voting SJ over AIVION, but more suggesting that I don't think he's being entirely forthcoming with that earlier explanation of his behavior to this point in the game.

Did you just scum slip? I don't see anything in the day open post saying that Mafia hit Excalibur. Why are you so sure Mafia hit him and not SK?

-vote DarknessB

[DarknessB]

Did you just scum slip? I don't see anything in the day open post saying that Mafia hit Excalibur. Why are you so sure Mafia hit him and not SK?

-vote DarknessB

Sigh, the moment I wrote that I knew I would get the OMG scum slip reaction. I am assuming he's the SK based on his survivalistic play from Day 1. If you want to play the fake scum slip card, that would be really sad.

[BananaCucho]

Sigh, the moment I wrote that I knew I would get the OMG scum slip reaction. I am assuming he's the SK based on his survivalistic play from Day 1. If you want to play the fake scum slip card, that would be really sad.

Survivalistic is how all scum play, not just neutrals.

-unvote

[powerofdeath]

-vote AIVION

Nothing happened to me last night.

[powerofdeath]

Since mafia have power roles, like Consigliere may be possible, it would be smart to look at everyone's first posts to see if the grammar look awkward and it looked like they tried to code in that post.

[powerofdeath]

I'll be clear guys. There has only been 1 kill and got a roleblock materia last night. Used it on AIVION. Also, AIVION vote on Mattzed was horrible.

It's a beautiful day outside.

Birds are singing, flowers are blooming.

But kids like you....

-vote AIVION

SHOULD BE BURNING IN HELL

Cloud Strife
You share a night chat with the other members of AVALANCHE. At night, you may collaborate who to target for your factional night kill. You may either send yourself to perform the kill or send one of your team members.
You may instead of submitting a night kill target a dead player listed in the graveyard, becoming their role but keeping your alignment and win condition. Limited to (1) use.
Immune to detection before choosing a new role.
Cannot claim Rufus, Sephiroth's, Scarlet or Heidegger's role from the graveyard.
You are immune to roleblocks and attacks.



Sephiroth
Target one player at night, killing them.
Once during the game, you may publicly kill another player regardless if it is day or night, as long as you are alive. You can trigger this by pming the host "assassinate <TARGET>".
Immune to detection. Will show up as an inactive Shinra Employee to investigatives.
You are immune to roleblocks and attacks.

[Gyrlander]

Cloud Strife
You share a night chat with the other members of AVALANCHE. At night, you may collaborate who to target for your factional night kill. You may either send yourself to perform the kill or send one of your team members.
You may instead of submitting a night kill target a dead player listed in the graveyard, becoming their role but keeping your alignment and win condition. Limited to (1) use.
Immune to detection before choosing a new role.
Cannot claim Rufus, Sephiroth's, Scarlet or Heidegger's role from the graveyard.
You are immune to roleblocks and attacks.



Sephiroth
Target one player at night, killing them.
Once during the game, you may publicly kill another player regardless if it is day or night, as long as you are alive. You can trigger this by pming the host "assassinate <TARGET>".
Immune to detection. Will show up as an inactive Shinra Employee to investigatives.
You are immune to roleblocks and attacks.

Maybe they sent someone who wasn't Cloud Strife?

[SuperJack]

Maybe they sent someone who wasn't Cloud Strife?

Why would they? Makes no sense.

Scum just attacked scum. Or maybe the same person LOL.

[SuperJack]

But yeh I'm going to give GameFreak a town read.

[DarknessB]

Maybe they sent someone who wasn't Cloud Strife?

There's also always the infamous WIFOM "no night kill" plan, but since Sen isn't playing in this game, I can't imagine that would happen.

[DarknessB]

But yeh I'm going to give GameFreak a town read.

Is this another "terrible reaction test", SuperJack? It really doesn't do anything to give a read with nothing explaining why you think that way.