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  2. ISO #902

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    are ppl okay with being on at the new EOD? I think it hits some time in the late morning / noon for you Americans now. Should we try to arrange a lynch a little earlier?
    I generally always wake up about 2 hours after that.

    Granted, that isn't the typical sleep schedule as that (2 hours after) is practically at Noon, but its like my natural habitat on the 4th dimension of the universe to wake up around then or an hour after presuming I got no responsiblities.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  3. ISO #903

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    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir View Post
    Third, I want to know why Renegade, SB16 and Martin didn't vote between Frinckles and MattZed??



    SLEEP = the most anti-town thing you can do in a setup with a sanitizing godfather
    I did vote MZ in order to see if we would get a lynch or not.

    Frinckles unvoted immediately:

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Oh what the hell.

    -vote MattZed


    Guess looks like this is today's elimination but I think its possibly wrong.

    Then again I can't give him excuses for sussing DM or SB which I've repeatedly stated they were v fmpov.
    -vote unvote
    since your technically not town
    Which basically said everything about us not getting a lynch.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  4. ISO #904

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Ikr but honestly right now I expected Frinckles or Mesk to be scum, and in second hand either Matt or MM.
    I'm a bit stunned with Frinckles' death.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Can you please have a reaction to the fact that Martin called you illuminati that isn’t “no, I’m going to bed?”
    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Pretty sure I did have a reaction lemme check.
    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Here it is.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Have you claimed a role yet?
    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    No, I haven't claimed yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    So am I understanding correctly here that you are purposefully not claiming in the face of this mechanical check? I don’t mean for this to be a loaded statement, just understanding the situation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    This "mechanical check" is biaised.
    Why should I bother to reveal?
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    I don’t think this is a wrong way to go about things I just don’t think it’s the way I would’ve done it. As a result it puzzles me.
    This feels like courtroom questioning for some reason lol, esp with this part.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  5. ISO #905

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    We will deal with you tomorrow once Marino gets his purple chekc onyou.

    Purple sheriff with a boggled claim lmaooo
    Well there's always the possibility we could lynch one and trust me to shoot the other.

    I didn't recant for those who believe me.

    Though I think I get role-blocked if the RB'er/escort disagrees with me.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  6. ISO #906

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    Okay, so I haven't spent hours thinking about this.

    But right now I'm sort of feeling and thinking:

    Auwt probably town, though the lack of a role-claim is puzzling.

    Renegade seems town based on effort alone.

    Mesk so far looks genuine on the push.

    Which looks like a fucked up situation because I don't think/feel there are collectively 3 towns in this conundrum and makes me wanna go back and pray to my feedback that Auwt is indeed illuminati.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  7. ISO #907

  8. ISO #908

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    I mean, honestly I do feel like Auwt is scum but I really can't tell how much confbiased I am in thinking that.
    One thing that bothers me is this:

    In the span of 18 hours and only 1 post in between by Auwt, Frinckles goes from Null to one of Auwt's top scumreads without Auwt even interacting with Frinckles. Most of the Auwt to Frinckles interactions occurred much later D1.

    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    To be honest I'm not certain about my reads at all.
    If I had to make a quick list it would look like this :

    yzb - Town mindset imo
    DM - I receive town vibes from him, not too sure though.
    Renegade - I agree with some of his post, but not all of them.
    Frinckles -
    Martin - Should reconsider his night action.
    MattZed - The MM/MattZed situation is a bit touchy.
    MM - The MM/MattZed situation is a bit touchy.
    Mesk - Shaky entrance (as always?). I prefer to be wary of it.

    As always this is a kind of draft, so don't consider it to be my whole D1 base.
    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Anyways, I suspect:

    Auwt
    Mesk514
    Frinckles

    Not that I think they are indeed scummy, but I do feel suspicious of them // they're on my radar.

    Also I need to look into Yzb25 more tbh.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Nice.
    Your scum sided as you listed all except for the scum.
    I actually believe there is at least 1 scum between Mesk and Frinckles.
    Those are my current suspections.
    You can have fun looking yzb or me but I don't think there will be much interest of doing it.
    Though he did mention the first reads list was a "base" of sorts.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  9. ISO #909

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    Additionally:

    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    tbh, I'm deeply suspicious of the fact that DM's train only has two people on it. @Auwt , @yzb25 , @Frinckles , do you *really* townread this man?
    To be fair DM is playing the same way as he used to in each of his game.
    I don't see his agenda coming from a scum.
    Looking at it, he is the only one proposing a solve,
    And even if I don't fully agree with this solve, I think there should be a part of truth in what he said.

    @MattZed
    This was 6 minutes before the shift in scum-reading Frinckles.

    The odd thing is, here Frinckles is directly said to be town-reading DM, which Auwt also heavily did.

    Did Auwt factor this in at all? It could be said to make Frinckles look better, not worse, I would presume.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  10. ISO #910

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Additionally:



    This was 6 minutes before the shift in scum-reading Frinckles.

    The odd thing is, here Frinckles is directly said to be town-reading DM, which Auwt also heavily did.

    Did Auwt factor this in at all? It could be said to make Frinckles look better, not worse, I would presume.
    Not to mention MZ and MM were on Auwt's list of suspicions because of the "touchy" situation.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  11. ISO #911

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Mesk you really fucked up the gambit by calling him consig instead of godfather.
    I know, that's what happens when there's too many spoilers to go through and you're on your phone after working 12 hours. lol
    but I'm 99.9% sure it worked.
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    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  12. ISO #912

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    @Auwt

    Why did you start scum-reading Frinckles after you made your reads list?

    Originally, he was (seemingly) null in a low confidence reads list by you, but 18 hours later, Mesk + Frinckles are your top-scum reads.

    Not to mention, Matt Zed pointed out that Frinckles, like Yzb25 and you, was town-reading DM. Yzb25 was, as per your readslist, towny and you would know yourself to be town as well. I would assume Frinckles agreeing that DM was town make him look better in your eyes.

    But you read that post and 6 minutes after listed Frinckles as part of your two top scum reads.

    Why is that?

    (I hope the wording here isn't confusing for you btw, if I need to re-word let me know)
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  13. ISO #913

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    lmfao you're gonna attack the fact i have a full time job while in the midst in exams. low and pathetic, keep grasping on those strings
    Then don't sign for a game and use it as a shield? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    I forgot we are on sc2mafia where goofy stuff like that gets a pass cuz you've been around for years. But I'm the fence sitter!

  14. ISO #914

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Then don't sign for a game and use it as a shield? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    I forgot we are on sc2mafia where goofy stuff like that gets a pass cuz you've been around for years. But I'm the fence sitter!
    I literally got pinged to sign and said I would play but my activity would be lacking. MattZed cannot request me to sign for a game then use my unavailability which was forwarned against me, lol. That's called a cheap shot. aka picking on low hanging fruit. Something that you're not focusing on cause you have nothing else to use as a rebuttal against your shitty chart which did pretty much nothing
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  15. ISO #915

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    I literally got pinged to sign and said I would play but my activity would be lacking. MattZed cannot request me to sign for a game then use my unavailability which was forwarned against me, lol. That's called a cheap shot. aka picking on low hanging fruit. Something that you're now**** focusing on cause you have nothing else to use as a rebuttal against your shitty chart which did pretty much nothing
    ^^^
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    Public service announcement: given the EoD time change, I will not be present at EoDs in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Then don't sign for a game and use it as a shield? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    I forgot we are on sc2mafia where goofy stuff like that gets a pass cuz you've been around for years. But I'm the fence sitter!
    Mesk has been reasonably active this game, I'd say. Partially thanks to the pressure Matt led early on, sure, but you can't accuse her of inactivity lol, that's not fair. She gave more definite conclusions that you did, and her gambit, although it probably didn't work out as well as expected due to her misreading/not reading the setup, is town-telling. Your attacks here look like OMGUS; plus, if I'm not mistaken (I could be since I haven't read everything yet), you haven't really considered the gambit as even possibly town-telling, which is... strange.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  19. ISO #919

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    Eh, I understand what you're saying but I'm pretty sure that only really excuses the PoV that I was the consig. I'm i was an Illuminati sheriff the who the fuck cares which order Auwt and I are lynched? Also, I'm pretty sure if he believed I was a true consing then we wouldn't have any Illuminati and the feedback ok auwt should be dismissed instead of taken into consideration.

    I understand it's flawed, but to me it's telling. It's not really even considered properly by him. He needed help to get out of my claim
    You could have been a red consig with a purple godfather, which means it was 100 % the best course of action to lynch Auwt before you (I literally had this thought process myself). But I guess your point doesn't consist of "he's confirmed scum due to that", so I get it.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  20. ISO #920

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Wish you the best @MattZed
    Same =(
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  21. ISO #921

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    EOD will be fixed back to normal. This will be done by extending the night phase. EOD today will be as posted . But the night will be extended 9 hours. Bringing day3 Start 7pm CST and EOD back to that time as well. This is to fix the pause in the game to bring the game back to balance.
    Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
    Spoiler : :
    WHY CANT YOU FOLLOW SIMPLE DIRECTIONS?
    YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!

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  22. ISO #922

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    which means it was 100 % the best course of action to lynch Auwt before you (I literally had this thought process myself).
    I have the same thought process as well, however, I just feel like if I was in his position I would have just slapped my vote down between either of us. Either way, both of us are scum from his PoV, why wait til someone else demands he votes? if he was hesitant to vote in the first place, why even slap your vote when called to place one given you're "unsure" which is the best course of action. MZ determined the best course of action for him when he was pinged to vote. not himself.

    idk if that makes sense, but it does in my head
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    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  23. ISO #923

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    I have the same thought process as well, however, I just feel like if I was in his position I would have just slapped my vote down between either of us. Either way, both of us are scum from his PoV, why wait til someone else demands he votes? if he was hesitant to vote in the first place, why even slap your vote when called to place one given you're "unsure" which is the best course of action. MZ determined the best course of action for him when he was pinged to vote. not himself.

    idk if that makes sense, but it does in my head
    It does. And it's not the first time he's hopped on a train after being prompted by matt. Matt repeatedly prompted him to vote DM and he eventually got on in response to one prompt. He hopped on frinckles yesterday when MZ was the primary train.

    Rene been matt's bitch
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

  24. ISO #924

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post

    Rene been matt's bitch
    And here I was calling MM his butt buddy... oh my have the tables turned...
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  25. ISO #925

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Let's not forget how matt casually read rene's early play as town for the groundbreaking insight that citi claims are anti-town, and never seriously pushed the slot for the entire game. I have no idea how someone could townread renegade's early play, putting aside whatever MM read from renegade's stream of consciousness later on.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

  26. ISO #926

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    @Auwt

    Fine, I will help you out.

    By some perverse coincidence, I actually checked renegade last night like mesk falsely claimed, and renegade did appear as mafia.

    This is not a second gambit (that would be dumb). This is 100% serious. I tried to crumb yesterday (IRL yesterday) that I was also sheriff when I randomly brought up the possibility of 2 sherrifs to mesk. But I'm awful at softclaims and have no idea whether I did it well.

    Anyway, this day is evidently not heading anywhere fast, and there's a good chance I'll be dead tomorrow with a wiped lw. So I may as well reveal this information now. Auwt, if you are town and townread me, you now know renegade is mafia and there is no illuminati. Your objective is clearly to ensure renegade is lynched today.

    Perhaps I speak from a tunnel, but I struggle to imagine a world where the scumteam is not mattzed / renegade. Almost the only way matt interacted with renegade was to probe renegade about his voting interests. And it is certainly correct to probe your mafia teammate for their voting interests in this setup (or feign probing). He handled renegade with mitts for the entire day.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

  27. ISO #927

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    ahem

    I am sheriff, Renegade is mafia

    (for realzies this time)
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

  28. ISO #928

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    The Q is whether there really is an illuminati (and I suppose will remain the Q for the rest of the game).

    I could still be swayed either way, but various things indicate to me that there is an illuminati. But I'll abstain from final judgement for now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

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    OMG LOLOLOLOL
    i love it, I FUCKING LOVE IT
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    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    The Q is whether there really is an illuminati (and I suppose will remain the Q for the rest of the game).

    I could still be swayed either way, but various things indicate to me that there is an illuminati. But I'll abstain from final judgement for now.
    How do you feel about renegade being given the chance to kill his teammate (whomever it might be)?

    There's a few ways we can go about this and I would prefer if you gave me any idea as to what that should be.

    One is to have me shoot either MZ or Auwt while we lynch Renegade and etc.

    If there IS illuminati though having me check a 2nd time could be a very bad idea which puts us (presuming !non-illuminati Renegade) down to 4v3.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    The Q is whether there really is an illuminati (and I suppose will remain the Q for the rest of the game).

    I could still be swayed either way, but various things indicate to me that there is an illuminati. But I'll abstain from final judgement for now.
    So you believe Auwt is scum then? That's the only way mechanically we can have an illuminati right now.

    Either way if there's an illuminati we have a 50/50 chance of lynching one by killing Renegade anyway if he's mechanically mafia. That's a bonus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    So you believe Auwt is scum then? That's the only way mechanically we can have an illuminati right now.

    Either way if there's an illuminati we have a 50/50 chance of lynching one by killing Renegade anyway if he's mechanically mafia. That's a bonus.
    ^This
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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    The only world where we have an illuminati right now and auwt isn't in it is a world where martin is lying and if we're in that world we have much larger problems.

    The fact that Auwt hasn't claimed is slightly spooking me and it's the sole thing that's giving me cause for alarm. I need to see how bakermir plays for a while because I do think MZ was not trying to push a mislynch on me... I can understand the thought process of renegade + MZ and I can kind of see it too maybe? If baker is mafia he's definitely not illuminati and I can say that most with the most certainty because I was the one the slot pushed yesterday.
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    How dare you send me another box of cereal
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    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    It's already v late. For now, ima head to bed. I'll reply to responses when I wake, and do some computations.

    I'm used to being in invisible mode, sorry ^^.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Lol what? 2 fake claims wasn't planned in illuminati chat. So one is a gambit and the other is a true fake claim?
    Even if its a fake claim

    That fucker is townier than you

    end of story
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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    I love the way you squirm in the hot seat
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    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

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    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    If you believe there is illuminati, and if you believe the fake claims, then what does that mean to you @MartinGG99
    Yzb25 has already been proven (as close as can be w/o me checking him) to be practically not-illuminati to me (as mentioned in a past post I made prior to the claim).

    He's also basically town in all setups fmpov.

    Regardless of the claim, and whether I believe it to be real or fake, I should be considering his opinion on the matter very much.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Yzb25 has already been proven (as close as can be w/o me checking him) to be practically not-illuminati to me (as mentioned in a past post I made prior to the claim).

    He's also basically town in all setups fmpov.

    Regardless of the claim, and whether I believe it to be real or fake, I should be considering his opinion on the matter very much.
    Here's the post I was referring to:

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Also I think Yzb is never illuminati here.

    Unless he was concerned about me and put quite a bit of effort to convince me otherwise, but I'm going to occams razor that and say he's non-illuminati. I don't believe that he thinks of mass fake/real "peeks" (whatchamacallits) IN ADDITION to being cautious about me being executioner in an extreme unlikelyhood.

    Also the fact that Auwt put Yzb as a top town-read helps that matter.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    He basically did two things, one that could help my cause (if illuminati existed) and another that would hurt it if I recanted n1 for some reason.

    I mean, I feel like scum generally paints one thing about a person, not multiple things in various angles

    Which speaks to me as a true solving or open-mindset that towns generally have more often than scum do
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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  50. ISO #950

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    EOD will be fixed back to normal. This will be done by extending the night phase. EOD today will be as posted . But the night will be extended 9 hours. Bringing day3 Start 7pm CST and EOD back to that time as well. This is to fix the pause in the game to bring the game back to balance.
    Nice ^^
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    I have the same thought process as well, however, I just feel like if I was in his position I would have just slapped my vote down between either of us. Either way, both of us are scum from his PoV, why wait til someone else demands he votes? if he was hesitant to vote in the first place, why even slap your vote when called to place one given you're "unsure" which is the best course of action. MZ determined the best course of action for him when he was pinged to vote. not himself.

    idk if that makes sense, but it does in my head
    It does make sense, but doing what he did also makes sense, so you can't scumread him for it lol.
    Being afraid to vote is indeed a scumtell. I just doubt he was like "heeyyy scummate(s), pls coach me!" in the thread. When people are accused of having done that, it's never true (even if they're scum).

    I could roll with a Renegade lynch.
    -vote Renegade

    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    Let's not forget how matt casually read rene's early play as town for the groundbreaking insight that citi claims are anti-town, and never seriously pushed the slot for the entire game. I have no idea how someone could townread renegade's early play, putting aside whatever MM read from renegade's stream of consciousness later on.
    Did he? I thought he was more in agreement with the DM vote than he was townreading Renegade for any other reason.
    If you're actually right on that though, and that Renegade flips mafia, I'm pretty sure we have a Mattzed-Renegade team and that I was 100 % right in my last will.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
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    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
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