Frog I have a question.
Where are your conspiracy theories? You're slacking there, m8
In all seriousness I will read your posts now.
As for conspiracy theories:
Calette - Spearheading Female Tank = masons
In any event, Calette is never a D1 lynch.
RLVG is lean V - not on the table for lynching today.
Empathy - no one is really biting hard or genuinely, but I'm leaning V for them too. I'd like them to be off the table.
So RLVG just made a huge post detailing a fuckton of posts, last time he did this he was my scumpartner , i am now on the lookout for you RL
From what I have read at the moment, Hell Frog and Calette strongest town leads, with Empathy being strongest scum / neutral.
Reason for empathy, emotion controls the posts, and the vote on tank seems to be through agenda, but glancing through it, I think it's for this reason alone.
I havent read the whole chat with Tdl yet, with the points he has made at the moment, but will respectively get back to that on a later post.
Hell Frog's does make a few decent points which I found to be if a pro town lean, and Calette, you are doing your normal play, which I found at the moment for Toadette being Toadette, Calix being the normal questionable self,
With Empathy, I would beware, since if the hydra is neutral, I bet they might have the neutral wanting to be lynched approach.
I think I should expand my mason comment. There are a variety of roles that can signal other players they are of the alignment - masons, innocent child type roles etc.
variations of N0 Cop peek etc.
Okay, no questions that I feel are important at the moment so I'll comment.
Hell Frog seems more sedate to me than in their town games. I've noticed that they tend to agree with players more than propose their own ideas. (mostly in the early stages. E.G., agreeing with Sen that I'm being passive and with Empathy) I found Helz's comment about the Neutral to be strange, almost as if they're signalling to the scum. This leads me to believe that Hell Frog could be the Neutral. I'm not sensing anything that is indicative of mafia alignment, however.
Although I do think that they may be onto something with the TDL case. I have a slight scum read (emphasis on slight, don't know if there's a word for this) due to meta; TDL generally acts more pro-town as scum than he does as town and his opening post (where he provides a bunch of reads) is unusual for him. He also scum-reads someone because they disagreed with Empathy over optimal Miller strategy. Regardless of who is correct, Miller strategy is more setup spec and is NAI to me.
Comments like these are the reason I will continue to keep my vote on you. About 90% of this slot's posts are taking potshots at us. Hell, this is the slot that complained about "toxic spam" coming from us. I believe they know getting us emotional keeps the game focused on talk of PLing us and other BS and OFF of actual scumhunting. This is scum motivation and hinders town.
@ika-When you read this-most likely on break at work-please do me a favor and keep all posts on the game-no personal stuff and no insults-I have my reasons for this. If we keep this game solely on scumhunting and avoid the drama, scum can't hide behind it.
TIA
That said, I will be busy all day until about 4:30 Central. Leave any questions if you need to and I'll answer then later. ika is working doubles today so may not be on much.
~SilverWolf
Considering how small the setup is, Masons strikes me as overpowered. There might be Neighbours, similar to how there were Gang chats in Bag of Goodies ;)
I think a Cop (with varying sanity) or an 'Informed Townie' role (where someone knows that a certain player is town) is the most likely of the informative roles.
I can understand the miller comment being NAI, but I think setup spec is usually pro-town. I don't see setup spec on the same level of IIoA. It's more game solvey from an objective basis, especially in a closed setup.
And you're right, I'm not really into this game atm. I'll try to find some motivation to get me out of this funk.
Alright so my thoughts after reading. Sen and Paladin are offline so this is just me.
Scum:
TDL, he made this big opening post about everybody and detailed reads. I remember last game we played i had him pinned as strong town and he flipped scum.
This man truly looks more town when he's scum. I see Calix also picked up on it.
RLVG, this is the same reason he made a huge post of fluff, the last time he did this he was also scum. The gesture in itself isnt scum but if you take the time
to read through it all there is nothing new or valuable in there.
I dont think empathy is scum. Just their usual play, shame we can't check though.
Funcall is starting to post like a normal person(not a hydra ayy) but i need more on them.
Calette is being the most pussy hydra ever what is this. When i say this hydra i was filled with joy because i expected fireworks,
all we've gotten so far is duds
BTW-I can link you to plenty of games (from ms if they don't IP ban me) showing getting emotional is not alignment indicative for either ika or myself. I work best when not harassed. That does not mean you can't pressure me. That means if people don't give me room to breathe and especially if they start getting personal, you will see emotion out of pure frustration. I am new to this site. No one wants to come in here and read shit about PLing, whining, votes for doing protown things like claiming the miller part of our role, votes for not giving a reason for voting-which is perfect fine to do, etc. etc. Some of it is just scum most likely but if it's town, we are not the only ones not being productive town then. It does nothing and will get you nowhere with us. As that one post with our vote shows, we are giving effort and I don't appreciate the constant implication that we are not. You are disrespectful to us and you won't get much. That's just the way it is.
Also, I like Hell Frog's latest posts and am gonna give a very slight townlead on that slot for now. Orb's continued talk of wagoning us and PLing and not much else makes me lean scum.
Also, the Calette hydra-when scum Calix was very passive but Toadette was very, very argumentative. So it makes me split on this hydra right now as one is playing to scum meta and one is not.
Also, I would like to apologize to the game for ika's use of the C-word. I did not like that. It goes too far in the personal insults category.
Have a good day!!
~SilverWolf
I am a virgin and don't really care about that stuff, sooo...
Fuck.
Vampires want virgin blood. FUCK
Setup speculation. Don't forget the bastardized roles, the randomized roles and those with negative benefits with a positive gain.
Bitch please, that's no indication on alignment lol. If I feel I need to catch up, I make a huge single post with things I pick on.
I don't want to be FM Batman and post the fuck out of everyone by having 1 quote per post.
Yo silver, you must understand when we see a Miller claim. Especially from IKa. We aren't just going to lay down and agree with it.
We have to test it, see if its true, find his reasons. So we pressure him. And the reason you got so many votes was because
he totally failed to defend this claim in any meaningful way. He basically said wait for SW. We didn't like that.
We got enough info now
My softclaim is the best kind of softclaim.
All this talk about TDL being scummy and one vote. Let's see how committed everyone is to this train.
-vote TheDarkestLight
It is just plain bad play for scum to EVER fakeclaim miller. Particularly, first post of a game D1. On ms, that's how it's done when you draw miller so the cop DOES NOT waste a check on you. There is zero reason for ika to fake that. When I got in here, are read the way you guys were shitting on him, that just sends me straight into a rage. That said, I have no objections to legitimate pressure on him for it. You have to understand I'm gonna look at how that pressure was applied to get reads.
One thing I will comment on quickly before I have to go in regards to TDL. I did like his posts but the one thing that pinged was his admonishment of us for insults. That's usually a scum tactic if it's one of the first posts in a game where I come from because it's an easy thing for scum to do to look busy. More pressure here is fine although I did like all his other posts. Hell Frog's reasoning is very sound though.
OK Gotta go!!
~SilverWolf