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    Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread

    Quote Originally Posted by secondpassing View Post
    Look, I'm hoping to ignore you because while some of your posts are good, in general, you're just not here, and there are so many holes in your hypothesis.
    First off, I didn't shoot Ganelon. I used my night action on Varcron. I've been trusting the reads I've been making, so that I can no longer be called secondguessing anymore.
    There are just so many variables from my eyes it's not as simple as your a) or b)

    It's your a) or b) or
    c)You're insane and were given a sheriff/crazy sheriff rolecard
    d)There's one more insane bus out there
    e)You're now cult and you're trying to get me lynched because I am your true threat
    f) You're the executioner who decided that day 3 is the day to lynch me
    g) You're the ritual killer, and feel you have enough people marked
    h) You're the witch and you already know town will lose somehow

    You're the third invest claim and you still haven't given a reason why you weren't here for the first two entire days of day 1.
    1) Overwhelming number of posts (mostly spam). There's also more people in this setup than the last game I played.
    2) I didn't have anything meaningful to contribute back then. I could've been like Gyrlander & SuperJack and discuss the setup, but I didn't since setup talk can distract from scumhunting.
    3) I AM here, but I've mostly been catching up. I'm a pretty slow reader (which has gotten better since I'm learning to filter out the spam). For example, I spent 4 hours a few nights ago and a few hours before d3 started. It also takes me a while to compose posts since I usually don't spam one-liners like Banana. Since there's so much more happening in this setup than the last, I haven't bothered looking up quotes for the most part.

    In hindsight, I guess it makes sense for people not to trust my lead. However, some people have scumread me for my earlier inactivity and I just want to prove myself.

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    Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    I get the feeling Treecko doesnt like me very much
    Wow I wonder why.

    I understand the spam, especially since you claim Jester. I'm more pissed at you targeting me because you didn't like the way I played last game.

    Now die.

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    Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread

    I Dislike The Other Thread So Lets Revive Forum Mafia With Our Own Hands

    The Best Way Is Too Yell At The People From NA And EUMafia To Come To Forum Mafia
    Im Way Too Busy To Advertise Forum Mafia Because I Have A Evil Plan To Get EUMafia Back For Myself

    Y'all Do The Stuff On NA Ok? Alrighty Everyone Else Go Into Random Sites Like Mafia Universe And Stuff And Advertise This Community We Have To Grow Bigger And Show Everyone Else That We Are Better
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho

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    Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread

    What are "Meta Game Reads": Meta Game Reads are when a player uses another player's past games, roles, and past behavior to establish a case as to the role of a player in their ongoing game.

    Why it's an ineffective method:

    1. Relies heavily on "recall memory." Recalled memories are often distorted and biased based on who is remembering the event. Therefore, recalled memories are unreliable. Thus to provide accurate information, the player making the claim must provide the game in question, the players listening to the argument or defense are now required to go outside of the current game circumstances to use information that could or could not be reliable to the current game to make a determination. This behavior removes all debate and reasoning from the given circumstances of the game the players are in and requires circumstantial evidence from a previous game to prove or disprove claims. When as we should all know. Correlation =/= causality. Just because two events look similar or might be related, it does not inherently prove them true. Psychology Today Article on Unreliable Memory

    2. Variables: How a player acts from one game to the next has as little to do with their role assignment as it does with the weather. Players respond to the stimuli they are introduced to. So, for example, a player could have never played a town power role before, thus, their acting not confident or sketchy in a game could be due to being overwhelmed with a role they've not experienced before. This behavior could mirror a time when they were scum and acting in a similar manner. The two observations of behavior are accurate, but misapplied as the player is not the same role twice. What the meta reader is doing is simply taking how a person responds to stress, agitation, pressure, etc. and applying that behavior to roles to get an alignment read. However, this is ineffective because what you're doing is reading how the person behind the computer is reacting to stimuli, and not how they are fitting into the pieces of notable scum behavior. Whereas one looks at typical behaviors of people of a certain alignment, the other analysis is simply observing a person, and then making a judgment about their role as it fits in with how they acted with past roles. How a player acts or responds is also largely due to the other players in the game. Some players feed off of each other, and bring out facets of a persons personality not ordinarily observed. Also real life circumstances could have a factor, perhaps something bad happened, or the player didn't have a great day. Perhaps they didn't sleep well or broke up with their significant other. All of these factors could lead to the player having biological responses and or non responses that might mirror how they acted previously when they were a specific role. Again, correlation does not equal causation.

    3. Inherent Bias: Bias always comes into play when you are playing any sort of deception game. This is largely why the SC2 Mafia Mod allows the use of alternative names. If you play long enough with a player you begin to understand their play style to an extent. I.e. this entire guide. However, the player you are playing with is able to manipulate this. If I know that everyone knows I always provide a full multiquote / multitier'd read list by page three of every game I'm town, I'm going to provide that read list by page three as scum. By meta reading someone, you are taking the work out of the game. Player X always calls out everyone for y behavior whenever they're town. This game player X is doing that behavior, therefore, I remove player x from the suspect pool. Even if temporarily. Allowing for inherent bias to infect your reading of a game, you are opening yourself up to massive amounts of manipulation. Thus Meta Reading a player is rendered ineffective because the player has used your own methods into tricking you.

    4. Derails game: By arguing about someone's behavior, and past behavior in other games, you are essentially shutting down all conversation pertinent to the game at hand. Not only this, but you are allowing for the opportunity for the player you are accusing to misdirect the game as well. Whenever you speak about a player in the personal sense, it always offers the opportunity for the game to veer off track and out of what claims or arguments are provable. Because personality is such a hard thing to measure from game to game, using it as the basis of your argument does nothing to convince the other players in your game as to why your claim is true. Whenever you make an argument, it should always be rooted into the behavior of scum players, and it should never be rooted in the personality of the player. All meta readings are subjective. However, all scum tell reads are objective. The more objective arguments you can provide, which can be backed up by quotes and logical reasoning, the more easily and readily your claims will be accepted. However, once you "get into the weeds" with another player, it will only destroy your credibility, or make the person you are making the claims against look more credible.


    Players are encouraged to read Helz guide, should they wish to improve their play. Helz Guide

    Note: This is incomplete atm because I got tired and stopped being able to think. Let me know if you want me to ad something.
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho

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    Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Guys lets recap

    Day 2 Vacuum claims he protected ME, I didnt get feedback. Hes grilled for this until Galeon says that he roleblocked Vaccuum, and Vaccuums like "oh thats why I didnt leave banana feedback"

    NOW we learn that Galeon DIDNT roleblock him, Vacuums like "oh thats why my feedback was weird and shit" but it doesnt explain his lie about visiting me

    So yeah. Destroy this guy.

    Theres no reason to try to read and reread people in a game of this nature. Things get solved mechanically and the lies are exposed. That day 1 turbo of Vaccuum to get him to fake claim did him in

    Ill take your MVP votes post game.
    I bet every freaking thing I say has already been pointed out, but Ganelon could've easily drugged YOU on night 1. In fact, this makes more sense to me from a Drug Dealer perspective. It wouldn't make sense for Drug Dealer to drug Varcron then claim to be Escort who roleblocked Varcron; the night feedback just wouldn't add up.

    Again, just basic mechanics...

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    Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread

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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho

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    Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    What about bus driver?
    Yes.

    And hi CekOwO! In case that echo is still needed: there are many more possiblities than just "I'm crazy sheriff" and "I'm lunatic" (especially from our point of view), although they are less likely. This setup is made to mess with our minds lol. You really can't say Secondpassing is scum based on your feed, it's WAAAYYYY too incertain. Also, getting rid of two or three jesters (idk who the third one is, but there probably is a second townie who got jesterfied last night) is kinda necessary, no? Why do you disagree with the Varcron lynch?
    @secondpassing can you remind me what you got as feedback and what you did last night? I don't remember what you claimed ;-; there's too much spam and too much new info that makes old theories useless, claims are basically caught on luck because of quote-reading now. Same for you @yzb and @Sen , if you have claimed, that is.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread

    Night Three


    The crowd decided to gang up on Varcron today, he was just minding his own business, living his best life.
    He lived such a pure lifestyle, of pure hedonism,
    he was our King.

    His followers secondpassing and Bananacucho simultaneously committed suicide, with a mixed expression of grief and ecstasy.
    You go through your night in a daze of philosophical contemplation.

    Night 3 will end at approximately 5:00PM PDT 5/15/2020
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    deathworld's and RLVG's suicides made me lul. I take a lot of pleasure in knowing that I gave you an night action, and that you used it to kill yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face View Post
    Deathworlds is simply better than us at this game. Don't kill them for that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    fucketh me in the ass

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    Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread

    Day four start will be delayed by at least more than an hour, apologizes for the inconvenience.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    deathworld's and RLVG's suicides made me lul. I take a lot of pleasure in knowing that I gave you an night action, and that you used it to kill yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face View Post
    Deathworlds is simply better than us at this game. Don't kill them for that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    fucketh me in the ass

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    Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread

    Day Four


    Varcron is gone, and everything is worse now.
    @Sen has been replaced by @Noz_Bugz


    4 votes to hammer.

    Role List
    Hidden Sinister
    Hidden Sinister
    Asylum Director
    Hidden Insane
    Hidden Insane
    Hidden Insane
    Hidden Insane
    Hidden Insane
    Hidden Insane

    Hidden Any
    Hidden Any
    Hidden Any
    Hidden Any


    Players
    Player Role Status
    Marshmallow Marshall ??? Alive
    Ganelon Drug Dealer Killed N2
    renegade Asylum Counselor Killed N1
    Bananacucho Jester Killed D3
    Gyrlander Asylum Director Lynched D2
    Varcron Jester King Lynched D3
    Sen/Noz_Bugz ??? Alive
    theoneceko ??? Alive
    secondpassing Jester Killed D3
    Light_Yagami ??? Alive
    SuperJack ??? Alive
    yzb25 ??? Alive
    Frinckles Ritual Killer Lynched D1

    Day Four ends May 17th, 11:00PM PDT

    Last edited by deathworlds; May 15th, 2020 at 11:21 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    deathworld's and RLVG's suicides made me lul. I take a lot of pleasure in knowing that I gave you an night action, and that you used it to kill yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face View Post
    Deathworlds is simply better than us at this game. Don't kill them for that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    fucketh me in the ass

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    Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread

    It would seem that my feedback makes perfect sense in spite of the Jester King's death!

    Welcome @Noz_Bugz , would you mind claiming your role? If you claim the right thing, I can 100 % confirm you as town, and can infer something else...

    -vote yzb25
    I am 90 % sure yzb25 is serial killer, but it's up to @Light_Yagami claiming what he did exactly tonight and what @Noz_Bugz claims. I'll say what my feedback was when light and noz reply. Also, please ping me with your replies so that I don't miss them if the thread gets spammy. I think this is the end, guys.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread

    I am not the Serial Killer. I visited Light last night. Please explain your line of reasoning.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

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    Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread

    Wait why are we even referring to "the" serial killer? Did we confirm there's no mass murderer?
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

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    Hold on I had my list somewhere let me find it
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

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    Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread

    Fuck I can't find it.

    Killing comes first on the OoO. So we should consider the possibility SP was the town killing and kills have left the game with him and we're not even looking for a neutral evil. With that said. If there is a neutral evil our options are:

    It's between SJ, Ceko and Sen. If it's SJ it has to be a mass murderer, unless SK can self-target and get their target moved to a proper target with the bus driver (which would be nuts).

    If it's Sen then the claim stuff he did on day 2 would have been very risky.

    Ceko is the "simplest" explanation, but even he committed to those results on SP and Ganelon. He was very committed to his check on SP yesterday. If SP flipped green he may have put himself in doodoo.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    Fuck I can't find it.

    Killing comes first on the OoO. So we should consider the possibility SP was the town killing and kills have left the game with him and we're not even looking for a neutral evil.
    we're not even looking for a neutral killing**
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

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    Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread

    I'm not even sure we have a neutral killing in the game. It could just be a second drug dealer / witch (cult would be shit). That may not be as townsided as it sounds given how disproportionately well day 1/night 1 went for town.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

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    Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    I can't be Mass Murderer because me and Ceko visited the same person n2
    How about saying literally right now who you visited n3 before you get a chance to calculate what the best visit claim is. A tRuE ToWn would, after all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

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    Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread

    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    I am not the Serial Killer. I visited Light last night. Please explain your line of reasoning.
    []
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

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    Re: S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    Insane: Have 1 member survive to the end, Eliminate the Cult, the Occult, along with any Mass Murderers, Serial Killers, and Ritual Killers.
    That doesn't sound fair to a witch or drug dealer at all. Maybe it's supposed to be interpreted like this:

    When there's just a witch left, the witch can still have the insane lose by eliminating all insane, whereas the insane still need to confirm they will survive to the end. So play continues.

    Does this mean wincon mean the game ends with an insane win if the witch / drug dealers have no more friends?
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    It's either cult or a killing role. I can't be any killings due to my visits. And Ceko has not acted like converted cult.
    Yes I'm also confirmed not killing because of my visits mhm I'm cool with 100% believing people's visits regardless of context lmao.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

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    If we had cult leader, drug dealer, jester king, Ritual Killer, Sleuth then town could lose its majority after day 1, even with a correct lynch on day 1. I think we established that would be a bit silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    If we had cult leader, drug dealer, jester king, Ritual Killer, Sleuth then town could lose its majority after day 1, even with a correct lynch on day 1. I think we established that would be a bit silly.
    So it's definitely a killing role that hasn't killed yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    So it's definitely a killing role that hasn't killed yet?
    Well that depends on the question to DWs. If your interpretation is correct, I'd be inclined to believe we have a sleeping NK before we have a hapless MM / SK. The kills have been pro-town asf so far and conveniently stopped with SP's death. I'd find it very hard to believe that was all a coincidence.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    Well that depends on the question to DWs. If your interpretation is correct, I'd be inclined to believe we have a sleeping NK before we have a hapless MM / SK. The kills have been pro-town asf so far and conveniently stopped with SP's death. I'd find it very hard to believe that was all a coincidence.
    Dude there isn't an interpretation. It's written down fact.
    Either cult or killing.
    Killing would mean they have not killed anyone, weather by accident or on purpose.

    Cult would mean a poor setup. But, that's would just be insane correct?

    Ceko could be cult and just had called out who didnt convert.
    Light and MM are the only confirmed roles.
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