S-FM 327 : Last Hope

[Oberon]

BUT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE YUES IS TOWN UNLESS HE THREW BY POSTING THAT HE UPPED BLINK
I M P O S S I B L E

ASKING MAGUS TO REVEAL = ASKING MAGUS TO SUICIDE FOR SOMETHING OBVIOUS = HORRIBLE PLAY

"Ok dude, you literally tracked a player, to the guy claiming he was leveled up start of night, and don't care about any other facet of the game, don't care about the what if's apparently, you just want to see me burn and I'm almost enticed to just push for my own lynch at this point just so I can get the satisfaction of you being the forefront of it, and being so fucking terribly wrong because you want to be right so bad and get that +1 on me"

tell me this ate from blink isn't real.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

so the dude who can't even keep his record straight and is spamming is more legit than me? frinckles I think you randed wolf this time around bro.

you falsely said you had a red check on someone and almost got him lynched
you performed a FAKE OUTING that was incredibly risky and yet yielded nothing of value as far as I can tell

... I don't think I can blame Frinckles for calling you Templar here lol. I don't think you're Templar anymore, but like, you're pushing your luck xD.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

why does yuesford have to be either the magus or darkness? can't he be villager?

LOOK AT THIS DAMN POST

Hi guys. As your fellow villager, I can assure you I level-upped blinkskater. This frinkle guy is trolling and evils rode with him.

-vote Frinkles

HE IS NOT VILLAGER MAG

[Marshmallow Marshall]

"Ok dude, you literally tracked a player, to the guy claiming he was leveled up start of night, and don't care about any other facet of the game, don't care about the what if's apparently, you just want to see me burn and I'm almost enticed to just push for my own lynch at this point just so I can get the satisfaction of you being the forefront of it, and being so fucking terribly wrong because you want to be right so bad and get that +1 on me"

tell me this ate from blink isn't real.

are you seriously trusting AtE from blink lol? It's blink! He's going to appeal to the emotions of fucking coconuts if he so desires, it's his thing, and he fools people that way. Mechanics trump all of this, and they make everyone's life much easier here. So easy that I actually think I owe apologies to Frinckles for initially being against his reveal, since it really helped us and was likely to do so.

[Oberon]

you falsely said you had a red check on someone and almost got him lynched
you performed a FAKE OUTING that was incredibly risky and yet yielded nothing of value as far as I can tell

... I don't think I can blame Frinckles for calling you Templar here lol. I don't think you're Templar anymore, but like, you're pushing your luck xD.

dude half the bs you're posting pisses me off you're really acting like an anti-vaxxer here, its like I can't get through to you no matter how hard I try,

SO, tell me this makes sense:

1. I ask Frinckles a series of questions, some of which hadn't been answered before, and some of which were important, and he deflects, saying he won't spend his last 3 minutes in the game explaining himself again, and then *disappears* from the thread and comes back a bit later, supposedly because the day was about to end.
2. Instead of just answering my questions, when he comes back he places a vote on you, WHOM HE TOWNREADS, and asks for you to be hammered, even though he thinks I'm jester

??? how does any of that make any sense?

[Oberon]

dude half the bs you're posting pisses me off you're really acting like an anti-vaxxer here, its like I can't get through to you no matter how hard I try,

SO, tell me this makes sense:

1. I ask Frinckles a series of questions, some of which hadn't been answered before, and some of which were important, and he deflects, saying he won't spend his last 3 minutes in the game explaining himself again, and then *disappears* from the thread and comes back a bit later, supposedly because the day was about to end.
2. Instead of just answering my questions, when he comes back he places a vote on you, WHOM HE TOWNREADS, and asks for you to be hammered, even though he thinks I'm jester

??? how does any of that make any sense?

oh and he also said he won't answer them because im jester, now how would he know im jester?

[Oberon]

you falsely said you had a red check on someone and almost got him lynched
you performed a FAKE OUTING that was incredibly risky and yet yielded nothing of value as far as I can tell

... I don't think I can blame Frinckles for calling you Templar here lol. I don't think you're Templar anymore, but like, you're pushing your luck xD.

how would frinckles know I was templar at the time?

[Oberon]

if frinckles is mafia, I don't think its MM... I don't think he'd try to hammer him if it was lol

[Marshmallow Marshall]

dude half the bs you're posting pisses me off you're really acting like an anti-vaxxer here, its like I can't get through to you no matter how hard I try,

SO, tell me this makes sense:

1. I ask Frinckles a series of questions, some of which hadn't been answered before, and some of which were important, and he deflects, saying he won't spend his last 3 minutes in the game explaining himself again, and then *disappears* from the thread and comes back a bit later, supposedly because the day was about to end.
2. Instead of just answering my questions, when he comes back he places a vote on you, WHOM HE TOWNREADS, and asks for you to be hammered, even though he thinks I'm jester

??? how does any of that make any sense?

@Frinckles can you give your versions of things please? Or quote it if you already posted it, which you likely did? Because what he says here does look bad lol.

The issue with calling Frinckles bad here is that he mechanically can't be scum unless he's with the two guys he's accusing. YOU are the one acting like an anti-vaxxer, ignoring the scientific evidence and prefering your unproven theories! Stop crusading at me and read the post I keep quoting lol

[Marshmallow Marshall]

how would frinckles know I was templar at the time?

You literally quoted how:
you falsely said you had a red check on someone and almost got him lynched
you performed a FAKE OUTING that was incredibly risky and yet yielded nothing of value as far as I can tell

AND IF YOU DON'T ADDRESS THE YUESFORD POST I WILL SPAM PATRIOTIC SONGS OF THE COUNTRY YOU KNOW >=O

[Oberon]

You literally quoted how:
you falsely said you had a red check on someone and almost got him lynched
you performed a FAKE OUTING that was incredibly risky and yet yielded nothing of value as far as I can tell

AND IF YOU DON'T ADDRESS THE YUESFORD POST I WILL SPAM PATRIOTIC SONGS OF THE COUNTRY YOU KNOW >=O

how would frinckles know the check was fake?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

how would frinckles know the check was fake?

because your claim was utterly nonsensical. You literally pulled that from your ass in two minutes. You had been voting and pushing elsewhere for the entire day.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

AND IF YOU DON'T ADDRESS THE YUESFORD POST I WILL SPAM PATRIOTIC SONGS OF THE COUNTRY YOU KNOW >=O

Spoiler : vid :

I will gradually get closer until you address it

[Oberon]

@EVERYONE
Read this to see my case on Frinckles. It's there.

here's a post with all the relevant quotes.

[Oberon]

because your claim was utterly nonsensical. You literally pulled that from your ass in two minutes. You had been voting and pushing elsewhere for the entire day.

6 people bought my claim, are you sure it really was that nonsensical? for you it was, because you obviously know your own alignment, so you're biased.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

6 people bought my claim, are you sure it really was that nonsensical? for you it was, because you obviously know your own alignment, so you're biased.

Think about it for one second. You have a red check on someone, yet vote someone else at the start of the day and let everything be about other people? How does that make any sense whatsoever? I pointed that out myself, which Frinckles surely saw, so even if he didn't realize it by himself, he'd at least see me say it.

[Oberon]

@Marshmallow Marshall why did you vote ozy yesterday?
why did you think it was blink? I got the feeling you scum read him before, is that correct?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

@EVERYONE
Read this to see my case on Frinckles. It's there.

Now I think I understand why Frinckles voted me lol, but I'll let him speak for himself just in case. There's a scenario that 100 % makes sense here, I'd have done the same in his position.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

@Marshmallow Marshall why did you vote ozy yesterday?
why did you think it was blink? I got the feeling you scum read him before, is that correct?

Incorrect. My scumread on Blink developed overnight. I had him as a mild townread on D1 just because I thought scum!Ozy had been using him to push town!you without getting his own hands dirty. I intentionally didn't read into him because I know I'm shit at doing so on D1, and there was no need to read him immediatly anyway. He certainly wasn't a townread of mine, though, and if I had read more, I'd have scumread him D1 a bit probably.

As for Ozy, just read my case on him lol. He seemed to be setting people up for lynches, cautiously attacking people, sowing discord. His play reminded me of his scum play in ?krc as S-FM Skin Overdose.

[Oberon]

@Numbertwo do you still think its MM?

[Frinckles]

why does yuesford have to be either the magus or darkness? can't he be villager?

lol villagers dont walk around at night

[Marshmallow Marshall]

@Numbertwo do you still think its MM?

Why do you think it's me btw, #2? I feel like I'm kinda obviously town because of my visible progression, but obviously, I'm biased.

Off I go

[Marshmallow Marshall]

lol villagers dont walk around at night

And most importantly, they don't claim to have performed magic rituals to level up squirrels in the wilderness

[Frinckles]

3178 and a few posts before that btw MM

Everything else is Oberon fairy tales because he's shit out of ideas. I wrote about it pretty extensively last page.

[Frinckles]

Now I think I understand why Frinckles voted me lol, but I'll let him speak for himself just in case. There's a scenario that 100 % makes sense here, I'd have done the same in his position.

But for the third time, mechanics basically.

Even scum!frinckles doesn't lynch half afk MM.

[Numbertwo]

@Numbertwo do you still think its MM?

I still think he is one of them, but with the info that we got now i will move on to someone else.

-vote Frinckles

[Oberon]

There’s a decent chance frinckles is just [CENSORED] and its neither Blink nor Yuesford... but probably Wrath or smth

[theoneceko]

He was at L-1... you were asking for a hammer dude on a dude you thought was town get your facts straight

these votes show frinckles was at L-2 before you unvoted. blink voted frinckles 30 minutes after your unvote, but that is irrelevant

anyways don't mind me but I'm Knight, and Marshmallow Marshall is A SHADOW.

-vote marshmallow marshall

obviously

Anyway seeing we have a thunderdome for sure between Oberon and MM, we kill the one the cop claimed a red check on first.

-vote MarshMallow Marshall

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

whatever

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

-unvote

[theoneceko]

these votes show frinckles was at L-2 before you unvoted. blink voted frinckles 30 minutes after your unvote, but that is irrelevant

fuck i forgot to include frinckles's vote

Ok

-vote Marshmallow marshall

[theoneceko]

fuck i forgot to include frinckles's vote

AND MARSHMALLOW MARSHALL was at l-2, NOT FRINCKLES.

omfg I WANT TO DELETE THESE POSTS SO BADDDD

[theoneceko]

The only two other players attempting to manipulate the factors that a Templar would be interested in are in my scum pool.

The two factors are: Pretending to be a PR to get leveled up (or "down which would be a level up for templar) or possibly being lynched for a level 1 win.

Look at my list and ask yourself which players have played with that as their possible strategy.

There aren't too many if you were considering a Templar going for his win con. But you might even suggest myself, to which I would reiterate why I would claim that I've leveled up already as Templar. That would instantly signal to a Magus not to use his ability on me and likely spook the Darkness guy.

Even Wrath has since basically told the Magus not to level them up because their level 1 ability is arguably better. Why would they as Templar do that?

So yeah. I think you're Templar.

that's obvious. wrath wants to stay a lvl 1 templar, bc winning at lvl 2 is much harder. becoming lvl 3 is rly unlikely

i don't understand ur argument of templar!oberon at all. you may just be biased on him bc ur too focused on the fact he accused you of putting mm to l-2 instead of l-1. you're either making an honest mistake as town here or want to protect your scum buddy wrath. the parallels between you two today are scary.

do you really believe oberon is templar? the only reason i was okay with you claiming oberon is templar is if you're trying to cover for the dude. templar is only neut evil at level 1, so magus and darkness won't want to level templar up.

[theoneceko]

that's obvious. wrath wants to stay a lvl 1 templar, bc winning at lvl 2 is much harder. becoming lvl 3 is rly unlikely

i don't understand ur argument of templar!oberon at all. you may just be biased on him bc ur too focused on the fact he accused you of putting mm to l-2 instead of l-1. you're either making an honest mistake as town here or want to protect your scum buddy wrath. the parallels between you two today are scary.

do you really believe oberon is templar? the only reason i was okay with you claiming oberon is templar is if you're trying to cover for the dude. templar is only neut evil at level 1, so magus and darkness won't want to level templar up.

however, at this point i want you to be completely straight with me here. wrath has been trolling this entire day besides his rogue claim and "explanation" that he doesn't want to play bc a few ppl scumread him (wrath gave zero signs of true anger this game except when lynching ozy)

[CRichardForumLies]

@CRichardForumLies why did you vote Ozy yesterday?

I didn't like the way they tried to make me doubt my Varcron read.
It looked like scum!them trying to sow doubt in my mind.
If I didn't have my timezone being so abysmally bad concerning SoD/EoD, I probably would have unvoted them and pushed on someone else yet I was exhausted during that day.

[CRichardForumLies]

By the way, I feel like I'm missing something on why we're getting Frinckles first.
Did Yues claim Magus or something?

[theoneceko]

i can't take frinckles calling oberon a templar seriously.

[theoneceko]

Because naturally you'd be leveled up and then down as soon as you were hit by both the Magus and negating Shadow. There's no reason for a TPR to want that. Not even wrath wants that, for perspective.

But as a Templar, surprise surprise, you just won the game.

the chances of templar!oberon getting leveled up twice are REALLY low (@LagAttack). you said yourself that elemental magus should've leveled ME up.

[Oberon]

By the way, I feel like I'm missing something on why we're getting Frinckles first.
Did Yues claim Magus or something?

I feel like Frinckles is Mafia... I asked him some questions that he wouldn't answer, and tried to hammer MM early instead.
If Frinckles is Mafia, that would almost certainly spew MM and blinkskater as town.

[Oberon]

-vote WrathCyber

@Frinckles you willing to vote WrathCyber?

[theoneceko]

start here. I pushed frinckles to answer why I was templar and why he jumped to the conclusion yues + blink had to be mafia, and it took hundreds of posts to get anything out of him.

he did eventually explain, but ur right. it took him hundreds of posts ffs

[CRichardForumLies]

I feel like Frinckles is Mafia... I asked him some questions that he wouldn't answer, and tried to hammer MM early instead.
If Frinckles is Mafia, that would almost certainly spew MM and blinkskater as town.

Lets not forget to add blink + Yues as confirmed village as well, as Frinckles was pushing both of them as scum partners if I remember correctly.

[CRichardForumLies]

I feel like Frinckles is Mafia... I asked him some questions that he wouldn't answer, and tried to hammer MM early instead.
If Frinckles is Mafia, that would almost certainly spew MM and blinkskater as town.

Frinckles + Yues has one scum that's for sure.
Hmm that is weird coming from Frinckles.
Still I hope you guys are right in pushing the archer claim over the villager claim.

[CRichardForumLies]

In either case, Frinckles/Blink/Yues is never the entire scum team.

[CRichardForumLies]

Suppose Yues is Magus and Frinckles is shadow trying to get both blink + Yuesford killed.
What does Yues as Magus have to lose by not claiming? As the scum are probably killing them anyway the following night.

[CRichardForumLies]

Yet I see my logic here isn't working so well when the player list is chock full of trolls.

[CRichardForumLies]

Oh yeah PQR is sketchy as heck for voting on me instead of Frinckles or Yues.

[CRichardForumLies]

I still wish Oberon's claim redcheck on MM wasn't a lie.
Otherwise I'd be fine having MM turbo executed.

[CRichardForumLies]

Oberon if MM is shadow and your lie let them skate out of the execution scot free, I will lose all respect for you.

[CRichardForumLies]

Oberon if MM is shadow and your lie let them skate out of the execution scot free, I will lose all respect for you.

Mind you my respect for Oberon went into the negatives the moment they said they lied about their red check on MM.
I'm sorry if I'm sounding like a jerk, yet I think village who lies is being incredibly selfish and not playing for their win condition.

[Oberon]

Oberon if MM is shadow and your lie let them skate out of the execution scot free, I will lose all respect for you.

@Marshmallow Marshall if Yuesford flips town who will you lynch tomorrow?

[CRichardForumLies]

Also radical idea I know, yet maybe don't be a f***ing troll and play for your win condition no matter your alignment.
That applies double if you're town/village.