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    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    Bruh, join me to pressure mesk to contribute, 17 posts into the game 😂😂😂😂😂 I can't with ya'll. ah, gotta hand it to MZ for being able to appeal to the challenged
    I kind of agree with this, wtf is with all of this pressure coming from people when the game started a few hours ago?

  7. ISO #207

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    also, totally willing to take the noose to flip cit, just to watch MM blame MZ for making him follow.
    anyways, MZ is right, I don't have time, so I'll be back when I do have time. Pressure me boyzzzzzzzzzzzz idc, you're not getting shit outta me
    Ugh so many contradictory feels about Mesk.

    Not a fan of the instant cit claim but I find myself liking the points she makes.

  8. ISO #208

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    I would like to make the argument that i find it rather anti-town to start right off the bat pressuring people. There's RNG phase and then just full blown starting with a tunnel.

    @MattZed , idc who claimed what, it's a random setup with random roles. People's roles work themselves out as time goes on and you've established who claimed or someone notices crumbling to point out the soft claim later.

    It's like 4 hours into the game, I have a whole other 44 hours to do what i want with my day. I admit, I'm rather grumpy, but this is all slot related. I'd rather not get too far into detail with it, but you and MM are totally dick riding each other. Although, it makes me sad to say... Dick riding is more of a you thing than an MM thing. It's not unlike MM to blind tunnel me as town when I'm town. I could honestly probably say i think the only time he's ever given me town points is as scum 😂 you on the other hand always have an agenda regardless of alignment.
    but being a dick with your pressure doesn't give you town points... just saying
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  9. ISO #209

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Ugh so many contradictory feels about Mesk.

    Not a fan of the instant cit claim but I find myself liking the points she makes.
    no ragrets, TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

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  10. ISO #210

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I FINALLY HAVE TIME NOW THAT MZ AND MM ARE GONE. hehehehe
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    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

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    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    I lied when I made that post. When Helz flipped, I decided to townside to avenge him and felt "oh yeah I've been town-sided this whole time" would earn town's trust much better than "I thought Helz was scum and was actively effort posting and trying to pocket people to make it easier for Helz to win." @Auwt , please confirm I spent a LOT of time PM'ing you that I thought Helz was scum and was trying to help scum last game.
    That is the truth I can confirm it.
    On another side note, the game started in the middle of the night, I will only be able to read it when I get off work.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
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    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
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    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  14. ISO #214

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Also want to point out that if we have Illuminati, Mayor is always scum.
    If Mason spawn instead of Mayor then it’s either 1 or both of them.
    So if one Mason knows they aren’t Illuminati they always put their buddy.
    Although it could be a strat for Mason Illuminati as well, one could bus the other like that.
    Or they could just not claim Masons at all but if they go that route then everyone would just know Mason’s are the scum.

  15. ISO #215

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    You're my strongest townread right now for the mindmeld. You could be faking a town perspective, but if so you're doing it *very* well. I think I've started most of our mutual thoughts, but not all of them. (in particular, how is it we both thought *Frinckles* was the next person to question when DM and Renegade are still watching the thread?)

    Tbh, I'm willing to give DM a little bit of a break for picking up on our connection. I could see someone thinking "Frinckles and Matt are so in sync, it must be coming from the same team." I'm not getting good vibes off of him in general, but I can at least see where he's coming from. I'm noticing more play aimed to harm town than play that's being deceptive.

    I've agree with Renegade and yzb on the few things they've said, but I would like to see more. I don't like how Renegade just isn't voting even if he seems to agree with me, and I don't like how much of yzb's thoughts seem to predate him receiving a rolecard.

    Auwt hasn't posted yet, but I'm not suspicious as I'm pretty sure he's in a European timezone.

    I soft scumread Mesk, scumlean DM and Frinckles, and townread MM. Everyone else null so far, but DM is a harder null.

    I'm off for real now.
    *moves a little bit closer to Matt's pocket*

    I assume you meant "MM and Matt are in sync" given the context, not "Frinckles and Matt", because I am definetly not seeing the sync between you two xD.

    The point about yzb's thoughts being simple mechanical ponderings that are purely NAI is a good one; however, what makes him towny imo is mostly his reaction to Martin's claim. Granted it's not a major townlean, though, and it's highly perishable (keep in a cool, dry place with a lot of future contributions).
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Renegade was rather against you pressuring people because "it's too early" and because "we're veterans trying to impose our vision of Mafia to the people" or something like that? I definetly agree that he needs to do more, but I don't see where you two agreed o.O.

    Not sure which one of "soft scumread" and "scumlean" is the most scummy, btw.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    So do you think MM and MZ are Mafia or Illuminati?
    they could literally just be town jerking each other off, who knows
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    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Both MM and Matt are applying that they top TR each other.
    doesn't mean they're both scum though, could pretty much be one kissing the others behind for townie points, probably more mattzed in this case... or they're both town... or damn, they're both scum 🤷*♀️
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  21. ISO #221

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Yeah I don’t know about you.
    But I feel like MM and Matt are trying too much to the point they are just softly revealing themselves as mafia.
    Wait, so we're scum for actually trying to play the game? ...
    I think I'm gonna stop addressing this kind of accusation from DM unless it have some influence on my reads.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Frinckles provided quite a bit.

    Yo MM and Matt give me your top TR.
    Would you mind providing quotes of this? All I saw from him was trolling about PR hunting, which isn't what I call "quite a bit" of meaningful contributions.

    At this point, I'm willing to roll with a Mattzed top townread; nothing has pinged me the wrong way, except the possibility that he could be trying to pocket me, but that's just because he's being highly pro-town by getting people to actually do something, so he has my relatively strong trust atm.
    Next TR is yzb, but highly perishable if he doesn't do more today as I said. And then... uh, I don't know if I want to townread you given how poor your reasonings have been, but on the other hand I feel like it's a reason to townread you in a way, so you get a weird towny slot in my mind.
    As for my scumreads, I don't have any major ones atm, but the ones I have are Frinckles (PR hunting jokes, meaningless posts and nothing else...?) and perhaps Mesk for being anti-town in her "I'll gladly take the noose to prove you wrong" crap, but that's not beyond her as any alignment, so meh.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  22. ISO #222

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    I would like to make the argument that i find it rather anti-town to start right off the bat pressuring people. There's RNG phase and then just full blown starting with a tunnel.

    @MattZed , idc who claimed what, it's a random setup with random roles. People's roles work themselves out as time goes on and you've established who claimed or someone notices crumbling to point out the soft claim later.

    It's like 4 hours into the game, I have a whole other 44 hours to do what i want with my day. I admit, I'm rather grumpy, but this is all slot related. I'd rather not get too far into detail with it, but you and MM are totally dick riding each other. Although, it makes me sad to say... Dick riding is more of a you thing than an MM thing. It's not unlike MM to blind tunnel me as town when I'm town. I could honestly probably say i think the only time he's ever given me town points is as scum �� you on the other hand always have an agenda regardless of alignment.
    but being a dick with your pressure doesn't give you town points... just saying
    We have meaningful posts aplenty now. RVS isn't a goal, it's a mean to attain the meaningful posting stage, and it worked pretty well. I taste the irony of you beginning to post meaningful reads and analysis on both Mattzed and I while saying how rude it is to pressure people early on lol. It's a bit strange that you suddenly appear and actually do something now that we asked it even though you act like you didn't want to and aren't doing it, but I guess it's what we asked for, so it may not be super fair to give you scumpoints for it.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    If their Illuminati it’s probably with Renegade.
    Why? Do you scumread Renegade too? If so, why?
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    So would you say Matt is your top TR MM?
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    At this point, I'm willing to roll with a Mattzed top townread; nothing has pinged me the wrong way, except the possibility that he could be trying to pocket me, but that's just because he's being highly pro-town by getting people to actually do something, so he has my relatively strong trust atm.
    Next TR is yzb, but highly perishable if he doesn't do more today as I said. And then... uh, I don't know if I want to townread you given how poor your reasonings have been, but on the other hand I feel like it's a reason to townread you in a way, so you get a weird towny slot in my mind.
    As for my scumreads, I don't have any major ones atm, but the ones I have are Frinckles (PR hunting jokes, meaningless posts and nothing else...?) and perhaps Mesk for being anti-town in her "I'll gladly take the noose to prove you wrong" crap, but that's not beyond her as any alignment, so meh.
    TL;DR: yes
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  26. ISO #226

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Usually I don’t be willing to roll.
    I go for the decision I come across.
    I say "willing to roll" because of my now rather tame pocket paranoia; the wording was appropriate.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  27. ISO #227

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    We have meaningful posts aplenty now. RVS isn't a goal, it's a mean to attain the meaningful posting stage, and it worked pretty well. I taste the irony of you beginning to post meaningful reads and analysis on both Mattzed and I while saying how rude it is to pressure people early on lol. It's a bit strange that you suddenly appear and actually do something now that we asked it even though you act like you didn't want to and aren't doing it, but I guess it's what we asked for, so it may not be super fair to give you scumpoints for it.
    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 what a heap of crap he pinged me with a question, that isn't pressure. I pointed out to him I was responding to directed conversation, and that was directed conversation. and yes, it's rather rude to pressure someone right from the beginning. It appears he camein with his mind already made up. I don't care.
    again, totally slot related, but you... you're worse than PTB. and ptb has a helmet in every colour for each day of the month, dear lord you're absolutely terrible.
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  28. ISO #228

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Welp. Going off for good now.
    -vote Frinckles
    I want more from this slot, and tomorrow he can't possibly be drunk like I supposed he was today lol, so we'll see. I still have a scumlean on Mesk, for the record.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  29. ISO #229

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Welp. Going off for good now.
    -vote Frinckles
    I want more from this slot, and tomorrow he can't possibly be drunk like I supposed he was today lol, so we'll see. I still have a scumlean on Mesk, for the record.
    good riddance you terrible player
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
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    Spoiler : :
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  30. ISO #230

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    someone hand me the noose so we can have a repeat of Arsonist
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  31. ISO #231

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    �������������� what a heap of crap he pinged me with a question, that isn't pressure. I pointed out to him I was responding to directed conversation, and that was directed conversation. and yes, it's rather rude to pressure someone right from the beginning. It appears he camein with his mind already made up. I don't care.
    again, totally slot related, but you... you're worse than PTB. and ptb has a helmet in every colour for each day of the month, dear lord you're absolutely terrible.
    A question isn't pressure, but a vote and a call for people to vote you so that you post absolutely is.
    And I'm not sure I get your "totally slot related" part about helmets, but okay XD.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  32. ISO #232

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    A question isn't pressure, but a vote and a call for people to vote you so that you post absolutely is.
    And I'm not sure I get your "totally slot related" part about helmets, but okay XD.
    wow, congratulations, he got me to post... even though i would have had to post anyways, since his call was 17 posts in and it's day 1. derpderpderp.
    I don't know you IRL, so how do I know what your real life intelligence is like? so yeah, my image of you sitting with a helmet right now is totally based off how you're playing rn 😂. please display more intelligence in the game, this is a disappointing level for a ladder game.
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  33. ISO #233

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    such successful pressure. MZ was able to get me to post day 1 huehuehue, OUR TOWN HERO
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  34. ISO #234

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    everyone, give MZ town points... he did it.
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  35. ISO #235

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    how cute, everyone's gone to bed.

    Anyway's MZ literally said he isn't going to let me get away with not contributing today, as if i wasn't already contributing when it was 13 posts in. that's coming into the game with an agenda.
    MM literally voted MZ for his RVS and then said to someone "I'm going back to the pressure mesk plan" like 20 posts into the game when he never mentioned me prior but MZ told him to follow. Then like 20 posts after that he was just like, ooops, i thought i was already on mesk, hehe.

    Something funky is going on between these two, and their seemingly more focused on me. MZ focused on pressuring me and MM focused on appeasing MZ. MM is more susceptible to more advanced plays, and I think MZ knows that. So I'm keeping my vote where it is.
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  36. ISO #236

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    and when i say more focused on me, i mean, more focused on me rather than spending an equal amount of time on the neut claim, the other half cit claim... and just voting DM is easy shit cause he opened with a cit claim (don't steal my plays, sir, only a true citizen player can use this play) so... I'm gonna say MZ is exactly how MM read him last game, he appears like he's shopping for lynches. This time it just looks like MM is holding him by the arm as they walk down the aisle shopping together. Still unsure if voluntarily or bound by alignment

    also... I don't trust neut claims FYI. NEVER TRUST A SURVIVOR. mod101
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  37. ISO #237

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    @Auwt , sir, get your butt in here.... no one cares that you're sleeping, the game is the most important thing ever. you must come in here and contribute, time is ticking, it's 6 hours into the day, weooooweooooo scum alert, you're not participating... tsktsktsk
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  38. ISO #238

  39. ISO #239

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Sorry to say, but the vote on you is semi-serious at this point. I'm not a fan of how quickly you went to light AtE about last game when pushed about contributions. In my experience, AtE slowly develops and then explodes. It doesn't get rolled out the moment you get slightly prodded lol. If it was Voss that would be one thing, but DM and matt have nothing to do with last game.

    I'm not very impressed by the "citi claims are bad" insight either =P.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

  40. ISO #240

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Objection. Do that when we have flips, not right out of the gate lol. Else you're basically wasting their lives if there isn't an illuminati. This setup looks like it's designed to punish claims (we don't have many mislynches and we don't even know our exact enemy). I guess it could work for a mayor, though, but masons would involve too much WIFOM about CCing (and in a world with illuminati, it would be even worse because it would give us literally no info).
    Flips won't help that much.
    If you see a Sheriff claim down, we won't be able to find out whether it was a green or pink sheriff.
    What it can do however is narrowing the setup exact choice.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  41. ISO #241

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    I disagree. If I were the conspiracy theorist, I'd probably shoot anyone who claims mayor/mason: They're either Illuminati or a TPR. If they're Illuminati, I've helped myself in setups B,C,E,F. If they're TPR, I've made it very possible to scumside in setups A/D.

    I'm more on team "play this like a regular game." Let's try to find the Mafia for now: AT LEAST one of them is scum. If we're in setups A/D, both need to die, but we still need to kill one of them in setups B/C/E/F. If someone acting scummy flips town (especially Mason/Mayor), then that's a good sign there's an Illuminati.

    Also,

    -vote Mesk514

    @Mesk514 , I'm not letting you go by most of the game not offering opinions. Get your ass in here!
    I would be more into finding suspicious town behaviour.
    Looking at each setup, there are 4 out of 6 setups that use pink scums. So 4x3 pink scums = 12 total outcomes
    So it remains only 2 out of the 6 with red scums. So 2x2 red scums = 4 total outcomes

    It is way less likely to find a red scum over a pink scum.
    However finding a pink scum is much harder as they could share the same alignment as we do.
    Anyway, even if we end up "random lynching" (i know we surely won't lol) hitting a pink scum should be easier than a red one.
    A lot of wifom can be made in this setup as almost all the roles share the illuminati alignment in the different setups.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  42. ISO #242

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    I'm curious why you make it sound like you're interested in a no-vote, or at least have an aversion to a lynch in general. no-lynches kill day 1s I find
    I don't think it's an aversion, just a stand-by vote before finding something interesting I guess.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  43. ISO #243

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Oh and I hardclaim conspiracy theorist.

    I'm recanting n1, with full acknowledgement that this gives ~65% chance of just out-right losing on my part.

    (50/50 from chances of Illuminati existing and I auto-lose as per role-card, and another 15% chance where I live and rand jester and lose horribly because I hardclaimed my role and intent here).

    Since I have an auto-vest on n1, I can only be killed by my own action on N1, thus meaning if I die there is 100% illuminati.

    And if I don't die, there 100% is NO illuminati.

    I'm partially doing this because I don't wish to live to n2 or n3 having to deal with possible illuminati mind-fuckery.
    Either I didn't sleep well, or I didn't understand how the conspiracy theorist work.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  44. ISO #244

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Well, that's their choice.

    Not mine.

    I'm going to recant n1, and if I live somehow past that and we're in A/D AND mafia do kill a town, then yeah town might be in a slightly worse spot but for all you know I may have become ajester or something else.

    Heck, if we got a town vig just hope I don't rand Survivor and just shoot me n2 lol.
    I still don't understand why you would recant N1.
    Either you become neutral against the town.
    Or you die with the only role able to find out a pink scum.

    What's the deal?
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  45. ISO #245

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Also want to point out that if we have Illuminati, Mayor is always scum.
    If Mason spawn instead of Mayor then it’s either 1 or both of them.
    So if one Mason knows they aren’t Illuminati they always put their buddy.
    Although it could be a strat for Mason Illuminati as well, one could bus the other like that.
    Or they could just not claim Masons at all but if they go that route then everyone would just know Mason’s are the scum.
    Well apparently we are finding out if there is Illuminati this night thanks to Marinio.

  46. ISO #246

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    I don't know my win condition.

    I can't know if I am game throwing for myself....much less that I am willing to do this to myself lol.

    And besides, anything I rand can't be said to be guaranteed as anti-town; I can be protected by virtue of randing a Survivor which will give me the auto-vest from n1.

    Of course I'll never claim what I rand if I live; the no-claim will give me inherent WIFOM protection of some degree against both mafia and town parties since I could be a jester (thus winning for being lynched) or a Survivor (having an auto vest protecting against night-kills).
    The fact is, if you end up Jester, you ain't gonna get lynched this game anyway with your claim, so you lose.
    If you end up Amnesiac you should have to be lynched, and will most likely lose.
    If you end up Survivor you ain't gonna get lynched, but we would never know your role and therefore could be considered as Jester/Amnesiac, so you might also lose.
    If you end up killing yourself, so you lose.

    Do you see it coming?

    I will be honest, either way, with your claim, and the night action you want to do, you are almost certainly dooming yourself.
    Now it's up to you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  47. ISO #247

  48. ISO #248

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    For full disclosure, I think the common sense play is to make a single check with the conspiracy theorist, then recant if there is still no evidence of Illuminati.

    You can calculate the odds. It's statistically be quite unlikely we didn't find Illuminati by then if it existed and you'd preserve your neutral plays.
    I'm echoing this.
    +town point for you yzb.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  49. ISO #249

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    Sorry to say, but the vote on you is semi-serious at this point. I'm not a fan of how quickly you went to light AtE about last game when pushed about contributions. In my experience, AtE slowly develops and then explodes. It doesn't get rolled out the moment you get slightly prodded lol. If it was Voss that would be one thing, but DM and matt have nothing to do with last game.

    I'm not very impressed by the "citi claims are bad" insight either =P.
    Thank you for the feedback. To clarify the second point, are you suggesting that the citi claims are good then? Or you just think it is obvious that citi claims are bad and that it doesn't need to be said?

  50. ISO #250

    Re: ILLUMINΔTI (Ladder) 9P

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    I think he is sketchy. He seems to have already made up his mind on me, MM, and MZ based on less than 5 pages of content.

    Too rigid, does that mean he is pushing an agenda? Open Wolfing? I don't know yet.
    Why would I be open wolfing? I’m doing quite the opposite actually.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Well apparently we are finding out if there is Illuminati this night thanks to Marinio.
    This post here makes me truly feel Rene is scum.
    Because
    He never mentions anything about perhaps Lynching Illuminati today, as if he doesn’t want to.
    He clearly wants me and Martin out of his road which I feel is scum indicative.
    He throws shade but doesn’t vote.

 

 

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