S-FM 333: Murder in the Mid-Atlantic

[OzyWho]

still plenty of time left. we honestly don't even need to lynch today, just talk a little bit and make some reads. if we wind up lynching that's fine just hope it isn't TPR

Sacrificing the amount of total lynches we can make seems hardly worth it.
Even if that first lynch has the lowest chance of being a wolf lynch - reducing the amount of total lynch count will overall reduce the chance to lynch a wolf?

[Auwt]

This is also a curious behavior, don't you think.

Think about someone using the phrase "don't lynch me" versus "don't mislynch me", who is more likely to use one or the other when it comes to scum/town?

Just pontificating

Must admit you brought up an interesting and good point there.
That's also the kind of mistakes I remember doing as scum (to use mislynch way more often than actual lynch).

[Frinckles]

Imagine not enough lifeboats on a ship these days.
Frinckles Cruise Line must be from a middle eastern country or something. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

lifeboats are overrated. and smelly

[Frinckles]

we can do a muster drill anyway ready?

BEEEEEEEEEP BEEEEEP BEEEEP GRAB LIFEVESTS AND TRIP OVER THEM GOING DOWN THE STAIRS TO DECK 5. NOW YOU MUST STAND NEXT TO SWEATY PEOPLE WGO JUST LEFT THE BUFFET FOR 20 MINUTES

[Renegade]

From my perspective, I literally jokingly pointed out afterwards that it might look like a derp clear attempt, just so nobody gets that idea in the head. Because, obviously, it's impossible after being pointed out of being aware of it.

Then you come along and be like "THIS GUY JUST TRIED TO DERP CLEAR HIMSELF!"

I mean really.. can you fathom how stupid it looks? I myself made a derp clear impossible yet someone claims that derp clearing was my intent?
That's so unbelievably stupid theory I can't really comprehend it..

Imagine you taking a cookie from the cookie jar and telling everyone that you did it - then someone claims that you did it in secrecy. How would you respond to something like that?

I still don't understand why this discussion has continued.

You made an (seemingly) odd statement (in the spirit of scum made statements I've seen before), and whatever you did after to explain or obfuscate isn't really relevant to me. That's it, I'm ready to move on.

[Renegade]

I don't know what a derp clear is, I've never seen that.

Do it live.

[OzyWho]

I still don't understand why this discussion has continued.

You made an (seemingly) odd statement (in the spirit of scum made statements I've seen before), and whatever you did after to explain or obfuscate isn't really relevant to me. That's it, I'm ready to move on.

Why are you ready to move on though?
You stated that you're serious with that theory/read.
It's the only "topic" you ever posted about.

Don't you suddenly scumread me anymore? When did that happen? Who's your next top scumread now that you're over me?

[Frinckles]

I don't know what a derp clear is, I've never seen that.

Do it live.

I guess like townslipping or something?

[OzyWho]

Or if you instead mean being over discussing your read/idea - why wouldn't you be interested in figuring out the truth / uninterested in solving the game?

[Renegade]

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[Renegade]

Why are you ready to move on though?
You stated that you're serious with that theory/read.
It's the only "topic" you ever posted about.

Don't you suddenly scumread me anymore? When did that happen? Who's your next top scumread now that you're over me?

I'm done engaging with you about "derp clearing".

Doesn't change my initial read yet. And I have only said I don't like those lines, its middle of d1, maybe I don't have a solid read of you?

Again that this is STILL going on is odd to me.

[OzyWho]

Like, what I'm seeing is aversion from conflict while no interest whatsoever to look anywhere else either. (although admittedly I haven't given enough time yet to make that assessment)

[Frinckles]

We need a powerful town crew so keep is constructive boiz it's only page 5, dont get jaded over silly shit

[Renegade]

Like, what I'm seeing is aversion from conflict while no interest whatsoever to look anywhere else either. (although admittedly I haven't given enough time yet to make that assessment)

Rest assured I'm not averse to conflict, and just because I haven't "looked anywhere else" yet, less than 24 hours into the game, doesn't mean I won't?

goofy

[Frinckles]

Thoughts on scv? I can't tell if he's bleeding town or I'm being bamboozled

[OzyWho]

We need a powerful town crew so keep is constructive boiz it's only page 5, dont get jaded over silly shit

Tbf, there's no wolf hunting happening whatsoever, apart from Light previously that is.

I reckon someone interested in solving the game wouldn't just avert discussing their only thought and read they ever had in the game.
Like how am I supposed not to focus on that?

Frinckles, I'm willing to move on to something else if you show me something to focus on.

[Renegade]

Also, I presume that the Mafia had no N0 chat because nobody is present at SoG

No. Because I'm sick and tired of MM every game scumreading me for stupid reasons for no matter the cost. It's like he never gets tired of mislynching me D1..
I don't think he was serious, but man it's triggering af..

Okay since Oxy is now attacking me for asking questions, I'm curious what OTHER people think of these two statements.

To me, as I've said before, it appears very much like a scum pretending OH SO HARD to appear towny.

Frinckles, you are here, what do you think? Others please do chime in.

[OzyWho]

Thoughts on scv? I can't tell if he's bleeding town or I'm being bamboozled

He had like 1-2 posts and it was just sheeping MM's vote?
Didn't look like interested in the game. Severe apathy in fact - it's not an attitude I'd expect someone who hasn't played for years. I could see that apathy being indicative for a wolf. Like coming to FM after so many years, randing wolf, and saying fuck it.

[Gingerape]

@Lag
I know the role assignments were randomized, but were the town power roles & heartbreaker/actress handpicked or randomed as well?
Am I allowed to post with colored text as well?

[OzyWho]

Okay since Oxy is now attacking me for asking questions...

In this post, you don't even pretend to be interested in gamesolving and are purely motivated by "because I'm attacked".

Btw, you're speaking of the past as it was the present. Right now, I was questioning you for showing disinterest in your own only idea in the game. At least that's how I view it.

I'll give you space to give you room to look elsewhere. I sincerely hope that I'll see an interest in gamesolving by you.

[OzyWho]

Thoughts on scv? I can't tell if he's bleeding town or I'm being bamboozled

He had like 1-2 posts and it was just sheeping MM's vote?
Didn't look like interested in the game. Severe apathy in fact - it's not an attitude I'd expect someone who hasn't played for years. I could see that apathy being indicative for a wolf. Like coming to FM after so many years, randing wolf, and saying fuck it.

Nvm, after actually looking at their ISO - I agree that SCV feels tonally towny to me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[OzyWho]

@Lag
I know the role assignments were randomized, but were the town power roles & heartbreaker/actress handpicked or randomed as well?
Am I allowed to post with colored text as well?

Where did your signature go

[Renegade]

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Sorry since there is an issue with this, reposting the content:

[Renegade]

In this post, you don't even pretend to be interested in gamesolving and are purely motivated by "because I'm attacked".

Btw, you're speaking of the past as it was the present. Right now, I was questioning you for showing disinterest in your own only idea in the game. At least that's how I view it.

I'll give you space to give you room to look elsewhere. I sincerely hope that I'll see an interest in gamesolving by you.

I asked others to chime in, I think you have chimed in on this topic enough

[Gingerape]

Where did your signature go

I said in my first post that I would only show it on the first one since it's a bit big. I can show it on the first post each day as incentive to keep me alive.

[WrathCyber]

I caught up to everything. Let me know if you want anything else (I am currently outside and won't be able to make a full thoughtful response, will be back soon)

[Lumi]

@Lag
I know the role assignments were randomized, but were the town power roles & heartbreaker/actress handpicked or randomed as well?

Role assignments, power role selection, Angel Lady in White target, and carols sea shanties are/were all randomly selected using the seed input given by the players (that's what the 3 characters we asked for at the start of the game were for - the setup was randomly selected with it being impossible to re-roll or alter in any way)

@Lag
Am I allowed to post with colored text as well?

Yes, you can also post in any color you want - there are no reserved colors

[Renegade]

In this post, you don't even pretend to be interested in gamesolving and are purely motivated by "because I'm attacked".

Btw, you're speaking of the past as it was the present. Right now, I was questioning you for showing disinterest in your own only idea in the game. At least that's how I view it.

I'll give you space to give you room to look elsewhere. I sincerely hope that I'll see an interest in gamesolving by you.

Nvm, after actually looking at their ISO - I agree that SCV feels tonally towny to me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This looks like a lesson in: how to simultaneously offer a town read and a scum read on someone so whatever happens later I can say I'm right XD

Sorry I don't mean to pick on you but like wtf lmao

[Renegade]

I caught up to everything. Let me know if you want anything else (I am currently outside and won't be able to make a full thoughtful response, will be back soon)

Thats... it? 0_0

[OzyWho]

This looks like a lesson in: how to simultaneously offer a town read and a scum read on someone so whatever happens later I can say I'm right XD

Sorry I don't mean to pick on you but like wtf lmao

Are we even playing the same game here?
Showing that someone has a game progression, that they're reevaluating things, that they're looking into things - those are all compliments.

[Renegade]

Are we even playing the same game here?
Showing that someone has a game progression, that they're reevaluating things, that they're looking into things - those are all compliments.

Yup its a compliment.

[Light_Yagami]

There are no lifeboats left. It should be fine though, when has there ever been a nautical disaster in the mid-Atlantic involving a ship with not enough lifeboats?

Someone Forgot About The Titanic..

[Gingerape]

I have evolved. It's good to know that the power towns are randomed. I feel like if they were hand-picked then seer would be one of the roles 100%.
I'm not saying seer is bad, but the other two seem at least more powerful and investigative. Sorry Seer. There's still a good chance there is one in the game so good luck on your visits.

[Light_Yagami]

still plenty of time left. we honestly don't even need to lynch today, just talk a little bit and make some reads. if we wind up lynching that's fine just hope it isn't TPR

When Ever I Wanna Skip.. I Get Told You Know Skipping Only Helps Scum Right.. Then I Get Asked If Im Scum.. So Are You Scum Frinckles? For Suggesting To Skip?

[Light_Yagami]

Tbf, there's no wolf hunting happening whatsoever, apart from Light previously that is.

I reckon someone interested in solving the game wouldn't just avert discussing their only thought and read they ever had in the game.
Like how am I supposed not to focus on that?

Frinckles, I'm willing to move on to something else if you show me something to focus on.

I Just Got Back.. Man Dont Lump Me In With Everyone.

[Frinckles]

When Ever I Wanna Skip.. I Get Told You Know Skipping Only Helps Scum Right.. Then I Get Asked If Im Scum.. So Are You Scum Frinckles? For Suggesting To Skip?

well you like to avoid people when you're scum so i can see that.

honestly im more worried about us lynching a tpr d1 but there are 5 non-town players so we dont have horrible odds

[Frinckles]

Tbf, there's no wolf hunting happening whatsoever, apart from Light previously that is.

I reckon someone interested in solving the game wouldn't just avert discussing their only thought and read they ever had in the game.
Like how am I supposed not to focus on that?

Frinckles, I'm willing to move on to something else if you show me something to focus on.

I'm just getting my first impressions list going. some new people in here so I'm kinda of watching that atm

[Frinckles]

Okay since Oxy is now attacking me for asking questions, I'm curious what OTHER people think of these two statements.

To me, as I've said before, it appears very much like a scum pretending OH SO HARD to appear towny.

Frinckles, you are here, what do you think? Others please do chime in.

lol a bunch of people are going for the lameist angle. they usually turn out to be angel/lover

[Frinckles]

especially auwt but town auwt can carry so I'm hoping that's not bullshit

[Frinckles]

-vote gikkle

for weirdness with pqr

[ZZorange]

Another hot spicy read here. Auwt is 85% confirmed scum as overviewing every single game Auwt has played they have played. When they post 5+ posts in a row on day one, they are scum 73% of the time as opposed to when they don't, they are only scum 32% of the time. The math doesn't lie, Auwt is statistically an extremely likely scum pick right now, yall have been warned.

[ZZorange]

Ozywho also thinks that people can't change and he usually plays like a potato when town so OzyWho is town with 83% probability due to past game analysis.

[Frinckles]

Another hot spicy read here. Auwt is 85% confirmed scum as overviewing every single game Auwt has played they have played. When they post 5+ posts in a row on day one, they are scum 73% of the time as opposed to when they don't, they are only scum 32% of the time. The math doesn't lie, Auwt is statistically an extremely likely scum pick right now, yall have been warned.

how do you carry these reads without burning yourself?

[WrathCyber]

Ozywho also thinks that people can't change and he usually plays like a potato when town so OzyWho is town with 83% probability due to past game analysis.

I like your analysis! Best to keep it conventional.

[Gingerape]

I think the town's only saving grace is that mafia only get 1kill a night. All three mafia roles are pretty powerful.
The only reason to really lynch today is to hit a heartbreaker/lover before they act and take someone else with them.
With that being said, if you're lover, please don't love me. I don't want that stress.

[Light_Yagami]

Another hot spicy read here. Auwt is 85% confirmed scum as overviewing every single game Auwt has played they have played. When they post 5+ posts in a row on day one, they are scum 73% of the time as opposed to when they don't, they are only scum 32% of the time. The math doesn't lie, Auwt is statistically an extremely likely scum pick right now, yall have been warned.

Ozywho also thinks that people can't change and he usually plays like a potato when town so OzyWho is town with 83% probability due to past game analysis.

Me Next Me Next What Are My Odds Of XYZ..

[Frinckles]

I think the town's only saving grace is that mafia only get 1kill a night. All three mafia roles are pretty powerful.
The only reason to really lynch today is to hit a heartbreaker/lover before they act and take someone else with them.
With that being said, if you're lover, please don't love me. I don't want that stress.

day two will be a mechanical clusterfuck, it's a feature not a bug :3

[Frinckles]

There's no reason to be pessimistic tho, town roles are strong.

[WrathCyber]

There's no reason to be pessimistic tho, town roles are strong.

Is that a scum slip?

[WrathCyber]

No clue why any non-townie would ever say something such as this