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    Is sc2 Mafia still dying?

    With the recent patch that enables StarCraft 2 to be free to play, more players would be lured into the StarCraft 2 universe and thus boosting up the total player population. However, with our ever so toxic player base, newbies wouldn't find us to be exactly the most friendly gaming community out there, which may discourage their continued play. So could the community be affecting the growth and killing the game? Not saying that everyone is a prick but chances you will see one every game. The reviews are not helping too, the first review you will see in Mafia states 'mediocre game' which gives an emphasis on the awful community and mod misconduct. It is painful to host a lobby for 30+ minutes and seeing players leave.

    Also Blizzard should fix the patch. There is no maintenance break and now I am lagging and disconnecting more often
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    Quote Originally Posted by Notorious View Post
    With the recent patch that enables StarCraft 2 to be free to play, more players would be lured into the StarCraft 2 universe and thus boosting up the total player population. However, with our ever so toxic player base, newbies wouldn't find us to be exactly the most friendly gaming community out there, which may discourage their continued play. So could the community be affecting the growth and killing the game? Not saying that everyone is a prick but chances you will see one every game. The reviews are not helping too, the first review you will see in Mafia states 'mediocre game' which gives an emphasis on the awful community and mod misconduct. It is painful to host a lobby for 30+ minutes and seeing players leave.

    Also Blizzard should fix the patch. There is no maintenance break and now I am lagging and disconnecting more often
    On EU, PanM clan finished EU SC2Mafia by kicking everyone with his clanmates
    Now his clan died
    but still, this gives a point
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    Re: Is sc2 Mafia still dying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Notorious View Post
    With the recent patch that enables StarCraft 2 to be free to play, more players would be lured into the StarCraft 2 universe and thus boosting up the total player population. However, with our ever so toxic player base, newbies wouldn't find us to be exactly the most friendly gaming community out there, which may discourage their continued play. So could the community be affecting the growth and killing the game? Not saying that everyone is a prick but chances you will see one every game. The reviews are not helping too, the first review you will see in Mafia states 'mediocre game' which gives an emphasis on the awful community and mod misconduct. It is painful to host a lobby for 30+ minutes and seeing players leave.

    Also Blizzard should fix the patch. There is no maintenance break and now I am lagging and disconnecting more often
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    This was the purpose that Skwirl was formed, to help preserve the mafia community. Right now we have an active discord, which is just now topping over 200 people. For everyone reading this, feel free to join the community!
    We Have The Sc2Mafia Clan For It
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    Last edited by Lysergic; November 16th, 2017 at 09:42 PM.
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    Re: Is sc2 Mafia still dying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    This was the purpose that Skwirl was formed, to help preserve the mafia community. Right now we have an active discord, which is just now topping over 200 people. For everyone reading this, feel free to join the community!
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    Last edited by Lysergic; November 16th, 2017 at 09:43 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    This was the purpose that Skwirl was formed, to help preserve the mafia community. Right now we have an active discord, which is just now topping over 200 people. For everyone reading this, feel free to join the community!
    And you're harrassing people to join your fucking shitty discord, yeah...
    Last edited by Lysergic; November 16th, 2017 at 09:42 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    This was the purpose that Skwirl was formed, to help preserve the mafia community. Right now we have an active discord, which is just now topping over 200 people. For everyone reading this, feel free to join the community!
    Given that we have our own Discord, it would be kind of nice if you advertised that instead of your own seperate mafia community, especially since this thread is literally about this community dying. :/

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    I don’t understand the argument that multiple discord’s is somehow a bad thing. Discord is not a paid service, nor does it limit how many servers you’re in. Also the mafia one is on main page. Also let’s be honest here. The majority of the community hates the moderation team. They’re not going to join a discord run by the moderation and forum staff. They feel safe in the community one, and it’s always going to be that way. That’s the unintended consequence of having moderation or punishment systems in place. The community will never “be themselves” when a large portion of staff is present and in power.
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    Shut up cow.
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    Did you just fucking call him a cow?
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    No, he played as well as he could. He had you right in the palm of his fucking hand all game and you STILL don’t get that. He played you like a fucking fiddle, and it was so obvious and it pains me that nobody else saw it.

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    Also going in and editing out his discord link is not going to help bridge the staff and community gap lys
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    Shut up cow.
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    Did you just fucking call him a cow?
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    No, he played as well as he could. He had you right in the palm of his fucking hand all game and you STILL don’t get that. He played you like a fucking fiddle, and it was so obvious and it pains me that nobody else saw it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    I don’t understand the argument that multiple discord’s is somehow a bad thing. Discord is not a paid service, nor does it limit how many servers you’re in. Also the mafia one is on main page. Also let’s be honest here. The majority of the community hates the moderation team. They’re not going to join a discord run by the moderation and forum staff. They feel safe in the community one, and it’s always going to be that way. That’s the unintended consequence of having moderation or punishment systems in place. The community will never “be themselves” when a large portion of staff is present and in power.
    That Is True
    We From EU Were Lucky To Not Have The Moderation Team On Our Place Also We Have Vote Kick At The Start Of The Game Too
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    Re: Is sc2 Mafia still dying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lysergic View Post
    Given that we have our own Discord, it would be kind of nice if you advertised that instead of your own seperate mafia community, especially since this thread is literally about this community dying. :/
    We link people to the other Discord as well as post in it too. We have also gotten multiple people to sign up on forum Mafia (which we just started helping a few days ago when Mesk joined). So before giving negative feedback you should come over and actually see what we are doing there? It is not only helping the game, but the other communities as well.

    Also, a suggestion for your guys discord is possibly adding roles, or some color to it to help mimic the game itself. It may make it more engaging for people and give it a "Mafia" feel to it.

    The link is in the post you gave negative rep to, feel free to check us out and hopefully we can work together to help build a stronger overall community.

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    I like the job that Distorted and crew did with Skwirl. As long as there's no funky moderation going on, maybe that should be the official Discord, rather than trying to get people to move from Skwirl to the current one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    I like the job that Distorted and crew did with Skwirl. As long as there's no funky moderation going on, maybe that should be the official Discord, rather than trying to get people to move from Skwirl to the current one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysergic View Post
    Given that we have our own Discord, it would be kind of nice if you advertised that instead of your own seperate mafia community, especially since this thread is literally about this community dying. :/
    I don't agree. skwirs discord is created by the community, it's active and run well.
    Our discord is ran by absent mods who no longer play the modz or play it only occasionally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tossangel View Post
    I don't think this is an accurate characterization.
    more accurate than you think as for the other players than me lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Its More Accurate Than You Think You People Just Want To Dodge The Truth
    I am not trying to dodge the truth. That just isn't my experience. I am active in the community and I only see a few people who show their dislike of the mod team. They are typically people who have broken game rules and received punishment for it. It is very common for players to get salty once they get called out for rule breaking. We are just trying to keep the game clean and fun for all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    I don't agree. skwirs discord is created by the community, it's active and run well.
    Our discord is ran by absent mods who no longer play the modz or play it only occasionally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tossangel View Post
    I am not trying to dodge the truth. That just isn't my experience. I am active in the community and I only see a few people who show their dislike of the mod team. They are typically people who have broken game rules and received punishment for it. It is very common for players to get salty once they get called out for rule breaking. We are just trying to keep the game clean and fun for all.
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    I'm going to say Lysergic isn't totally wrong here, given this is a thread about the community dying. However, I will say Skwirl does have something that's progressively growing. But like PoD said, the Mafia community will always be directly proportionate to the SC2 community. One thing is for sure, Mafia itself will never die given there's like 10 platforms to play the game...Some even Rev has worked on, and there's definitely over 150+ forum mafia communities. In my opinion skwirl mostly appeals to the sc2mafia mod community, and while I boycotted it as long as I could until I needed to find some people for forum mafia, I think it's mostly limited to the mod and sc2 games. You really have to be a a starcraft mafia mod player to want to be a part of skwirl, which i see as a huge issue if it was ever a discussion to make it the official discord. SC2Mafia is more than just the arcade game and as superjack said, the current discord is ran by people that don't even really do much anymore besides behind the scenes... but there's nothing about that that can't be changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Youre Not The One Getting Banned Over Lynching A Survivor We Have Our Own Opinions!
    Link me the report. Im curious about this survivor lynch ban you are always going on about.
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    Re: Is sc2 Mafia still dying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    I'm going to say Lysergic isn't totally wrong here, given this is a thread about the community dying. However, I will say Skwirl does have something that's progressively growing. But like PoD said, the Mafia community will always be directly proportionate to the SC2 community. One thing is for sure, Mafia itself will never die given there's like 10 platforms to play the game...Some even Rev has worked on, and there's definitely over 150+ forum mafia communities. In my opinion skwirl mostly appeals to the sc2mafia mod community, and while I boycotted it as long as I could until I needed to find some people for forum mafia, I think it's mostly limited to the mod and sc2 games. You really have to be a a starcraft mafia mod player to want to be a part of skwirl, which i see as a huge issue if it was ever a discussion to make it the official discord. SC2Mafia is more than just the arcade game and as superjack said, the current discord is ran by people that don't even really do much anymore besides behind the scenes... but there's nothing about that that can't be changed.
    Expanding to forum, where ppl are invited to play on was reason why Distorted posted link here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nawa View Post
    Expanding to forum, where ppl are invited to play on was reason why Distorted posted link here.
    But guess what? Donki butts
    There is an official discord, clan and forum, no need for a usurpation unless they are dead.
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    F2Ps generally seem to encourage an apathetic and even "toxic" environment. Generally, people that don't sacrifice something (money in this case) to take part in something (Starcraft in this case) feel far less passion or respect for it. Like public services.

    That said, games like Starcraft seem to inherently attract a slightly different kind of person to games like League *shivers*. Maybe I'm being too stereotypical now though.

    Anyway, will this even make more people play Starcraft in the first place? I doubt Blizzard's decision is drawing huge media coverage, given this is the last step in a slow transition to F2P. The people that hear Starcraft is now fully F2P and start exploring the already-free arcade will probably be negligible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerofdeath View Post
    sure it will gain some popularity, but after a year it will plummet again, mafia population is proportion to the entire starcraft population
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    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
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    I am surprised at how much negativity there is in this thread. I myself expressed concerns before that our community was too toxic for new players to stay (IE: Getting accused of game throwing and bashed repeatedly and threatened to be reported for just making a noob mistake).

    But as far as I can tell, at least the Arcade game sc2mafia, maybe not the forum game IDK, has been getting more popular and more active over the past few months consistently. I would compare this community now to that of Jedi Knight Academy: Movie Battles II.
    If you look that up, it's another game mod based community that has been around since the early 2000s. It is not that big but at the same time, games are always populated because most of the community plays the game every day for hours on end.

    Similar to the way the sc2 arcade mafia has now become with Skwirl, Movie Battles 2 has 1 main clan, Angels of Death, which most of the community is centered on. A decent chunk of the community is in AOD, then about as many players vehemently hate AOD and create their own tiny 2-5 person clans in "rebellion" against AOD, and then there are the few people not aligned. (there's even a jaded EU group that is upset that nobody plays on their servers anymore and they have to play on NA).

    We seem to have the same dynamic now with Skwirl, and I think it is a really positive thing for this game because now there is an actual active community. Before, I think very few players knew each other outside of the super OG mafia vets who have been around forever. We had a community, yes, but not a very active or social one. I mean, from my own experience I have played this game off and on (and during the on periods, fairly actively) ever since the mod first came out on StarCraft 2, but I don't think a single person would've recognized the name Aamirus and had any reaction to it before Distorted created the Skwirl discord.

    What Distorted has done somehow is allow the awkward nerds of SC2mafia to connect with each other and become friends, both those in the Skwirl clan and those who hate the Skwirl clan. Our game has a real sense of community now and I think that bodes very well for the future of the game.

    In my opinion, sc2 mafia is on the rise, and not dying at all.

    (I would like to reiterate all of my comments are based off of solely playing the SC2 game and not the forum game)

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    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    I am surprised at how much negativity there is in this thread. I myself expressed concerns before that our community was too toxic for new players to stay (IE: Getting accused of game throwing and bashed repeatedly and threatened to be reported for just making a noob mistake).

    But as far as I can tell, at least the Arcade game sc2mafia, maybe not the forum game IDK, has been getting more popular and more active over the past few months consistently. I would compare this community now to that of Jedi Knight Academy: Movie Battles II.
    If you look that up, it's another game mod based community that has been around since the early 2000s. It is not that big but at the same time, games are always populated because most of the community plays the game every day for hours on end.

    Similar to the way the sc2 arcade mafia has now become with Skwirl, Movie Battles 2 has 1 main clan, Angels of Death, which most of the community is centered on. A decent chunk of the community is in AOD, then about as many players vehemently hate AOD and create their own tiny 2-5 person clans in "rebellion" against AOD, and then there are the few people not aligned. (there's even a jaded EU group that is upset that nobody plays on their servers anymore and they have to play on NA).

    We seem to have the same dynamic now with Skwirl, and I think it is a really positive thing for this game because now there is an actual active community. Before, I think very few players knew each other outside of the super OG mafia vets who have been around forever. We had a community, yes, but not a very active or social one. I mean, from my own experience I have played this game off and on (and during the on periods, fairly actively) ever since the mod first came out on StarCraft 2, but I don't think a single person would've recognized the name Aamirus and had any reaction to it before Distorted created the Skwirl discord.

    What Distorted has done somehow is allow the awkward nerds of SC2mafia to connect with each other and become friends, both those in the Skwirl clan and those who hate the Skwirl clan. Our game has a real sense of community now and I think that bodes very well for the future of the game.

    In my opinion, sc2 mafia is on the rise, and not dying at all.

    (I would like to reiterate all of my comments are based off of solely playing the SC2 game and not the forum game)
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    Re: Is sc2 Mafia still dying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scvmurderer View Post
    There is an official discord, clan and forum, no need for a usurpation unless they are dead.
    Like ppl mentioned before, it isn't like people are limited in how many discords can they join. And as some may be scared(like it was mentioned before) of mods, Skwirl discord would be a good alternative.
    Yet there's limit in how many members can there be in clan(100), so making new clans is the only way to have more than 100 in united community.
    And also, Squirrel clan didn't make its own forum.

    So it isn't "usurpation", it's expansion - addition to pack of "official" network.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    I Think The New Update Actually Revived EU Mafia lol

    I Just Started Mafia And Saw A Half Full Lobby Which Filled Up Almost Instantly
    I Just Started Starcraft 2 And Afked A Bit Then Came Back And Saw A Half Full Mafia Lobby Which Filled Up Almost Instantly*
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    Re: Is sc2 Mafia still dying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    I Think The New Update Actually Revived EU Mafia lol

    I Just Started Mafia And Saw A Half Full Lobby Which Filled Up Almost Instantly
    new update poisoned sc2arcade with loads of bugs and lags
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