S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0

[Spruance]

Yzb why do you say mesk is town?

[Mesk514]

because i am? come on spruance, get with the program

[Spruance]

Town:
Spruance
Yzb
Marshmallow

I added a name to the list

[Spruance]

Assuming mesk of town 3 of the 4 are mafia

Hybrid
Iced Monopoly
Stealthbomber16
Goat

Can everyone agree?

[Spruance]

If we lynch all 4 of those scrubs we should be victorious. If only 2 are scum we would get another lynch to yolo.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Assuming mesk of town 3 of the 4 are mafia

Hybrid
Iced Monopoly
Stealthbomber16
Goat

Can everyone agree?

For once, I agree with you. But just saying "Okay, there's our bunch of lynches, let's do this!" is bad. We must think a bit more before just running in and lynch people.

[Mesk514]

im okay with going with goat

[Stealthbomber16]

Not sure why people are saying goatse is scum. He has been consistently adding constructive posts throughout the time he has been in the game and explaining all of his reads and reasonings behind them. He's in the upper echelons of my town reads.

I'm leaning more towards the marsh train. I don't like his interactions with iced and I'm feeling like he isn't providing much valuable info.

I want to hear more things from:
Iced
Goatse
Mesk

Speaking of mesk...

-vote Mesk514

Mesk was in charge of the SJ bullet train, kicking it off on day 1. Her content that day was awesome and I loved it but since then it has dropped significantly. Since, she has been flying under the radar as a town or null read for god knows what reason.

I'm fairly confident that mesk is scum. I will make a more comprehensive case later tonight when I get home from a school event, or maybe even tomorrow. It depends on how late it goes.

[GoatseOntheCupboard]

Wew it’s nice that since the town players (Spruance and MM) are shit that the scum (YZB, who gets attention off of iced monopoly the scum and onto RLVG the town) get to completely control the discussion

YZB is obviously the best and most articulate player here, and is organizing constant mislynches thanks to the shitty elected town leader we have (Spruance)

Mesk was never confirmed town, the only thing mesk did to contribute was point out SJ’s poor voting and pressuring on SB
Mesk lynches RLVG for hammering SJ, then hammers RLVG without a word lul

scum legit think they can just vote everyone who isn't scum and win the game
Remember to lynch YZB, Iced and either mesk or SB after

MM and hybrid your votes are shit and you’re bad but you’re probably town

[GoatseOntheCupboard]

Srsly why are we letting mesk fly so far below the radar? (s)he has literally contributed 2-3 posts tops towards actually giving reads on players, and that resulted in a town lynch
YZB is playing smart for sure. YZB has been the rallying point for the town, and sucked up nicely to mesk (idk if this is a legit interaction or if they're scum together) and to Spruance, since luckily Spruance is so shit he will townread you if you townread him and vote with his nonsense reads.
YZB sucks up to iced, changes the train from Iced to RLVG (even tho I'm pretty sure Iced and YZB are scumteam, like 90% ngl)

Although YZB made the very apt contribution that the votes on Iced seemed uncoordinated, and that it was likely not mafia voting him [Post 732] - is this not a reason to vote for Iced? It makes no sense to me. I admittedly thought that the scum were uncoordinated noobs early in the game, but now that my strongest townreads (hybrid, MM, Spruance) are all noob players, I think that scum are good players IE Yzb, Iced and mesk/SB16 and just coordinating to push for town lynches over and over again.

The push on me is EZ - Mod Goatse says that "Spruance is mafia because his arguments are nonsensical and seem to push a mafia objective", but smart Goatse says "My intuition says he is town 100%, so if I were scum I jump on the first town player that Spruance "reads" and try to push them ASAP.

[GoatseOntheCupboard]

Not sure why people are saying goatse is scum. He has been consistently adding constructive posts throughout the time he has been in the game and explaining all of his reads and reasonings behind them. He's in the upper echelons of my town reads.

I'm leaning more towards the marsh train. I don't like his interactions with iced and I'm feeling like he isn't providing much valuable info.

I want to hear more things from:
Iced
Goatse
Mesk

Speaking of mesk...

-vote Mesk514

Mesk was in charge of the SJ bullet train, kicking it off on day 1. Her content that day was awesome and I loved it but since then it has dropped significantly. Since, she has been flying under the radar as a town or null read for god knows what reason.

I'm fairly confident that mesk is scum. I will make a more comprehensive case later tonight when I get home from a school event, or maybe even tomorrow. It depends on how late it goes.

idk if this is "look, I wanted to push mesk, not goatse the citizen last night! I surely can't be scum" setting up for d4 LYLO, but I think it's helping in that mesk needs to actually give reads and that sheep voting isn't acceptable even in a game full of noobs. Either way I want to see Iced, YZB and either SB/Mesk lynched today

[Mesk514]

If you know me, you'd know I feel rather embarrassed for kicking off the SuperJack train, thus leading his mislynch.... Therefore since then, the motivation went from 500 to 100. Especially since imo, both him and RLVG were acting scummy as fuck.

if Stealthbomber is gonna vote me, im just gonna vote him back... I deterred his train Day 1, he shouldn't spit on me like that

[Spruance]

@yzb25

Hmmm goat says your not town can you tell us if that's true?

[Spruance]

@Mesk514 @yzb25 @Marshmallow Marshall @Iced_Monopoly

We are the 5 town members remaining in the game. LET'S NOT VOTE EACH OTHER OKAY.

I don't really care about the order that we lynch, but the mafia are indisputably:

Goat
Hybrid
Stealthbomber

DO NOT LET THEM TELL YOU OTHERWISE. They would be lying and that my friends is bad karma.

I admit my suspicion towards Marsh was not well founded, as well as my suspicion of RLVG was more just hating the way he was being a bitch instead of helping town. In conclusion, mute goat, hybrid, and stealthbomber, and vote them up as you wish. We need all 5 of us to vote one. We should start with goat. Thank you. That is all.

[Stealthbomber16]

@Mesk514 @yzb25 @Marshmallow Marshall @Iced_Monopoly

We are the 5 town members remaining in the game. LET'S NOT VOTE EACH OTHER OKAY.

I don't really care about the order that we lynch, but the mafia are indisputably:

Goat
Hybrid
Stealthbomber

DO NOT LET THEM TELL YOU OTHERWISE. They would be lying and that my friends is bad karma.

I admit my suspicion towards Marsh was not well founded, as well as my suspicion of RLVG was more just hating the way he was being a bitch instead of helping town. In conclusion, mute goat, hybrid, and stealthbomber, and vote them up as you wish. We need all 5 of us to vote one. We should start with goat. Thank you. That is all.

If you're convinced lynching from this pool is the 100% way to go then lynch me first and end the game now, please.

[Mesk514]

fuck it, i'll take my chances

-vote Goatseonthecupboard

[Mesk514]

-vote unvote

[Mesk514]

i'll actually taking my chances closer to EoD

[Iced_Monopoly]

This is long. But it is essential. I absolutely emplore everyone to read it. Even if it feels like its dragging on, it needs to be read. Especially by players currently town reading MM. Maybe youve missed posts, or written posts off as stupid, or just havnt been reading him in depth enough, but when you look at MM collectively, it is disgustingly apparent that he is scum. From slips, to wild vote throwing, never any evidence towards any of his reads, sheeping hard, buddying hard, potentially defending hard. 0 town motivation in anything he does.

Spoiler : Long ass ISO :

Threatening for vote control

Okay this is clearly weird. Leave stealth be... I want your next message to be "-unvote". If it's not the case, I will vote you. :banhammer:

Nothing in particular here, just the 'im sorry for randoming you out exdee' really rubs me the wrong way. Nothing is worse than forced humour and emoticons in a game like this. I think this is why I was so against yzb earlier too, it looked very much like he was pandering his posts to certain players with the use of this kind of chat, as a way to soften his image/buy cred subconsciously (with players who do this shit).

Yzb25, I want to add that -unvote won't be enough. I request something to explain this vote. He has done nothing in the game, and it'd be a weird bait. Really strange action if you're town, especially after the scandal of my vote against RLVG.

By the way, I'm sorry for randoming you out xD

Throws vote around like a mad. Always looking to see what sticks. Frequently abandons initial reasoning for 'lol jk voting' someone once traction games on them. Then suddenly has belief they are scum and sheeps votes.

I also remember he forgot about the game once... Idk. But still,

-vote yzb25

For this sudden aggressivity on a random AFK.

Immediately after voting yzb for voting superjack, MM now comes after super, seemingly out of nowhere. Setting himself up to join the traction train.

Do you think you are useful? Because you are not, BUT NOT AT ALL.

Vote thrown around again

Are you voting against the guys who defended you? And you probably expect a sheeping from other players...

-vote Stealthbomber16

>>>We are not looking for lynches
>>>Throws vote around on so many people
>>>???
>>>Profit?

At this point of the game, we are trying to get opinions, and not lynches. Sorry, but I do not get the usefulness of this post. Please explain.

Just finished telling hybrid off for scumhunting and voting. Then congratulates him on scum hunting. Then after saying were not looking for lynches(literally 2 posts prior), joins the biggest train and puts superjack at L1.

At this point of the game, we are trying to get opinions, and not lynches. Sorry, but I do not get the usefulness of this post. Please explain.

Once again, he put SJ at L1, after saying he doesnt want to lynch, then compiles a reads list, and doesnt even incldue sj in it.

After reading the recent posts, I come to this list:

Hybrid is witch hunting. Literally. Countering every post with another, very active. May be the most useful player here. Town lean.
yzb25 is trying to catch scums a lot. Wouldn't lynch him for now.
Spruance, not very active but tries to give good arguments. Wouldn't lynch him for now.

Omegasaur is just inactive. Nothing else no say, he just goes with everyone. Could be scum, not a priority target.
Mesk514 is pointing fingers more than usual. May be scum, not a priority target.
Stealthbomber16 is acting weird. He makes one big wall, then we don't hear him. He didn't bring anything useful to the game, when he is usually very useful. Suspicious.
RLVG is afraid to vote, but gives an opinion on everything. Could be a strategy, but suspicious.
Iced_Monopoly is very suspicious.
I would be very surprised if SuperJack wasn't a scum.

The 9 players out of myself are here. Top of list = less suspicious, bottom = most suspicious.

Still no justification for voting SJ. Just continues to leave him as the day 1 lynch.

It sounds legit to me, since that's how I play in every game that involves deception. This strategy is good. I am town reading Hybrid. I am scum reading SJ. Nothing else to say to vote SJ.

This was my first major problem with MM. After spendinf several posts telling people that we dont want to be lynching, and calling them on lynching. Then throwing his vote around like a maniac. Then joining a train, without reasoning to put someone at L1, THEN saying theyre voting them because they tried to stop people from lynching is so contradictory that you could write a M Night movie on this.

Also, that slip. I still dont believe in the justification MM tried to present for it. He said we needed to lynch to see who defended the citizen. He knew SJ was a citizen. This isnt the first time he slips knowing a role either, stay tuned folks.

First of all, I didn't skip 100 posts. I read fast, that's all.

Why did I vote you?

First: You are trying to stop people from lynching. We need one lynch to see who actually defended a Citizen and who wanted to hammer him for no real reason. You are experienced, so I assume that you know this.

Second: You are being defended by some players for no reason. I mean here Iced_Monopoly.

Third: Your vote on RLVG. I do not town read him, but I do not see any reason to lynch him. Zero reasons.

This was my follow up to his post, which never recieved a response. further confirmation scum slip was scum slip.

Not im the slightest. You just finished saying only scum would defend scum. Which by your own logic would mean a scum flip is more beneficial to you than a town flip. Which means you wouldnt be specifically saying todays lynch is a cit lynch, unless you knew it was going to be.

This continues on for some number of posts, i wont make this iso longer than it needs to be with spammed nooses. He immediately votes RLVG following SJs flip. More stupid fucking emoticons to pretend like he cares, after literally voting sj for no reason.

SORRY SJ

RLVG, could you please come here? Just two seconds...

This is almost from the start of d2, right after MM had a fit and threw nooses and accusations at RLVG. MM immediately vote swaps to me, despite us both pushing rlvg for the same case and reasons. If his arguements of lies, misunderstandings, and scum votes is true, then by that logic he himself is scum? Convenient vote throwing around.

Omega is just AFK.
The attacks against RLVG were based on lies, misunderstandings and scum votes.
Iced is very scummish.

Retracts/downplays his own posts to avoid attention. Also easily impressed by wall posts. Expecting free town cred if he actually reads this. Which he wont.

Because of the big fat spoiler wall of text, I'd say RLVG is not very suspicious. He explained every action he did, and they are all founded.

His reaction at my early bullshit vote was town-like.

+2 town points for RLVG.

For some 5-6 posts now, he has given a free pass to omega for being absent almost entirely. Even defends his inactivity. But then is okay to attack stealth for being afk? Contradictory scum behaviour yet again

Stealthbomber is really inactive.
If he was TOTALLY inactive and AFK, the host would kic--- smite him, no? So... what is he dooiiiinggggg??? STEALTHBOMBER16, WHERE ARE YOU WHEN WE NEED YOU?!

Quote from Stealthbomber himself: Being inactive favors scums.

Just for a laugh. Mesk has corrected MM multiple times about her gender. He continues to get it wrong. But expects everyone to know how to spell his name. Back to seriousness.

Mesk did nothing wrong here. That's why I wouldn't lynch him for any reason.

Stop mispelling my name, for god's sake... Also, I think this is COMPLETLY wrong. Maybe Stealthbomb16 is scum, MAYBE. But I really doubt it.

Doesnt actually throw his vote around here, and asks for his shepard to come lead him. RLVG is on chopping block atm, this looks like actual buddying. Especially given he shortly slips he knows rlvg to be town.

This game is going weird. Spruance isn't giving any real reason to lynch Stealthbomber16 or Hybrid, but he votes them. RLVG, I'd like to see your comments about this (well when you'll be on)

Dat callout to RLVG again. Oh hey buddy, mind telling me where I should park my sheep vote? kthx. Also for the amount that MM throws his vote around, there are players like mesk that he never votes against, without question or reasoning. <Insert some farfetched conspiracy theory here>

Iced's lynch may happen on Day 3. I don't think it's happening now, RLVG. We should try to find other leads against other suspicious players.

More or less my feelings toward SJ on d1, just interesting that MM is so happy to defend someone like this, but then scum read me for doing it. More contradictory gameplay

Spruance is not a fucking scum... Stop this circus. If Spruance gets lynched, lynch the guy who hammers lol...

This is the second scum slip of the game. MM openly admits that Spruance is a citizen. There is no ambiguity here. He announces that a spruance lynch is a citizen lynch.

Indeed. Lynching Spruance gives nothing but a lost citizen. However, Spruance is borderline gamethrowing. Only sad thing is that we cannot afford a policy lynch here.

Spruance train is dying down, RLVGs is still half decent. Moves vote to SB but doesnt want to see SB hammered, even though day is ending. IMO reads as trying to buy cred with RLVG as he percieves him to be the stronger/better player to buddy with in a lynch between SB and RLVG. (This is restrospective, initially I had considered an allied defense, not buddying, but it still fits the narrative.)

Humm... I'm beggining to think the same. Going off for some time, but I'm leaving my vote on Stealthbomber16 while im offline.

-vote Stealthbomber16

I hope I'm not doing the wrong thing here. Please do not hammer Spruance or Stealthbomber16, I want to hear SB's defense first, and Spruance is town.

Reasonably certain I have one of the highest post counts in the game, although hard to compete with someone spamming nooses. Unfounded reasoning to vote, instead is resorting to scraping for reactionary arguements.

Lol. I unvoted you, it's not for nothing. I want you to be productive, not to just attack everything you see. How did mesk say that... A chicken without a head?

This post emphasises the point that MM KNOWS how to talk about people he BELIEVES are town. The previous slip posts he out right said that players were specifically citizens and town. This time he claims "obviously town" which is more a belief rather than a scum knowledge comment.

Unvote. Goat is obviously Town. Unvote him right now and be constructive, for god's sake...

Both myself and YZB make posts and appeals to get people to vote RLVG for his scum behaviour. Of course I get the vote from MM though. Either MM thinks im the easier lynch between yzb, or he is allied with yzb. Although I dont see that connection.

Makes me turn my vote back on you.

-vote Iced_Monopoly

Literally cannot be reading the game at this point. Throwing shade around.

What the fuck... You guys lynched RLVG for no reason. Whyyyy....... Now get on Iced immediatly before he poisons your mind!!!

Calls me out for not voting. But then also votes me for voting. Which is it? Il tell you what it is. desperate fucking scum.

You're just giving opinions and never vote. You are either dumb or scum. Since I don't know you and theres 3/7 chances for you to be scum, I'm gonna say you're scum.

Good job on the sesame street thing, I find it funny even if I'm targeted by the insult xD

Without a shadow of a doubt, MM is scum.

[Iced_Monopoly]

@Spruance especially ^

[Stealthbomber16]

Sold.

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

[Iced_Monopoly]

Everyone should make it clear where they think the last scum lie, and what their lynch interests currently are.

At this point, there's no reason to hold any cards to our chest, beyond laziness. Personally:

Feel good about:

Mesk
Spruance

Feel less good about but okay with:

Hybrid
SB16

Unsure about:

Goatse

Bad vibe from:

Iced
MM

Which would make my scumteam Goatse, MM and Iced.

But that wouldn't make much sense without bussing shenanigans because Iced seems to be hard pushing MM right now, and Goatse preferred Iced over RLVG yesterday.

The reread has made my opinion on Iced shift. The way he's treating MM now corresponds to how he treated me on day 1. He must be aware his attitude isn't productive, and I'm starting to think this is a manipulative strategy. I remember Iced to have far more capacity for level-headedness.

I gave some of my reasoning for why I don't feel good about MM at EOD2. He didn't really give a satisfying response.

I might make more formal cases later for the inquiring mind, but that's where I stand right now.

How I treated you and MM are completely different. Frustrated with you? yes. But at least there was some reasoning to your actions and motives, and eventually things were (somewhat) resolved. MM is nothing but scum. There isnt a shred of town behaviour in what he does. There isnt even a case for bad town. If you want to scale my confidence in MM being scum vs RLVG. RLVG was an 8. MM is a 13. out of 10. There is no universe in which he does not flip scum.

[GoatseOntheCupboard]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MM is obviously town REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE apathetic town Lynch yzb SB and iced REEEEEEEEEE

[vote]YZB25[/unvote]

Mesk hybrid spruance MM hammer pls

[GoatseOntheCupboard]

-vote YZB25

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Sold.

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

Nice, you're following the scum. Very nice. Well look at this now.

Iced votes Mesk
Iced votes MM
yzb votes SB16
Spruance votes Firebringer (admitted random)
Hybrid votes MM for aggressivity
yzb votes SB16
Hybrid votes yzb to defend SB16
SB16 votes Hybrid
Hybrid votes SB16 back
Iced votes Hybrid
MM votes yzb
MM votes SB16
yzb votes Iced
Iced votes yzb
SB16 votes Hybrid
Spruance votes Mesk (admitted random with RNG)
Spruance votes SB16

SJ gets lynched.

Hybrid votes Iced
MM votes Iced
SB16 votes Spruance
Spruance votes SB16
Spruance votes Hybrid
Spruance votes SB16
Spruance votes MM
Hybrid votes Spruance
Spruance votes SB16
Mesk votes Spruance
MM votes SB16
Hybrid votes Iced
Goat votes Iced
Mesk hammers RLVG

Hybrid votes Iced
Spruance votes Hybrid
Spruance votes Goat
Spruance re-votes Goat
MM votes Iced
Iced votes MM
MM votes Goat
SB16 votes Mesk
Mesk votes Goat
SB16 votes MM
Goat votes yzb

This is the list of all votes made by living players against living players.

So what can we tell about teams by looking at this list?

1: Iced and Mesk aren't scum together, because Iced wouldn't vote his teammate like that as a first post.
2: yzb votes Stealthbomber. Yzb is likely Town, not that sure about Stealthbomber.
3: Hybrid and MM aren't scum together. I know I am not scum, and Hybrid is one of the most obvious town members here.
4: Iced reactionary votes yzb at Day One. He repeats this at Day Three when I vote him.
5: Stealthbomber and Hybrid aren't scum together. We know that Hybrid is not scum. Once again, is Stealth scum?
6: Spruance votes everyone for no real reason on Day Two. However, he gets back on track after and stops what was looking like a gamethrowing.
7: Iced is trying to discredit everything his voters say. He probably thinks that everyone will take his word, because he made himself the only credible player in his posts.
8: Stealthbomber and Mesk aren't scum together. They are fighting eachother.

So, I come to these conclusions:
Stealthbomber16 is suspicious, and even more since he votes me and "buys" Iced's arguments.
Mesk514 is obviously town, as are Hybrid and yzb25.
Spruance is likely town, he just turned on the troll mode for a while.
Goat is weird. Changing his vote without real explainations makes him not very town-like, but the behavior of the previous players in his slot was town-like.
Iced initiated the RLVG train for some strange reasons.

Share your reactions and ideas about people. And I would like to hear some defense from Iced_Monopoly.

[Iced_Monopoly]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MM is obviously town REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE apathetic town Lynch yzb SB and iced REEEEEEEEEE

[vote]YZB25[/unvote]

Mesk hybrid spruance MM hammer pls

How. How is MM OBVIOUSLY town?

Saying it does not make it true. Read the damn iso. Nothing but scum.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

idk if this is "look, I wanted to push mesk, not goatse the citizen last night! I surely can't be scum" setting up for d4 LYLO, but I think it's helping in that mesk needs to actually give reads and that sheep voting isn't acceptable even in a game full of noobs. Either way I want to see Iced, YZB and either SB/Mesk lynched today

Mesk is town. YZB is town. I'll just come back to my old vote, which was the right one apparently.

-vote Iced_Monopoly

[Iced_Monopoly]

Nice, you're following the scum. Very nice. Well look at this now.

Iced votes Mesk
Iced votes MM
yzb votes SB16
Spruance votes Firebringer (admitted random)
Hybrid votes MM for aggressivity
yzb votes SB16
Hybrid votes yzb to defend SB16
SB16 votes Hybrid
Hybrid votes SB16 back
Iced votes Hybrid
MM votes yzb
MM votes SB16
yzb votes Iced
Iced votes yzb
SB16 votes Hybrid
Spruance votes Mesk (admitted random with RNG)
Spruance votes SB16

SJ gets lynched.

Hybrid votes Iced
MM votes Iced
SB16 votes Spruance
Spruance votes SB16
Spruance votes Hybrid
Spruance votes SB16
Spruance votes MM
Hybrid votes Spruance
Spruance votes SB16
Mesk votes Spruance
MM votes SB16
Hybrid votes Iced
Goat votes Iced
Mesk hammers RLVG

Hybrid votes Iced
Spruance votes Hybrid
Spruance votes Goat
Spruance re-votes Goat
MM votes Iced
Iced votes MM
MM votes Goat
SB16 votes Mesk
Mesk votes Goat
SB16 votes MM
Goat votes yzb

This is the list of all votes made by living players against living players.

So what can we tell about teams by looking at this list?

1: Iced and Mesk aren't scum together, because Iced wouldn't vote his teammate like that as a first post.
2: yzb votes Stealthbomber. Yzb is likely Town, not that sure about Stealthbomber.
3: Hybrid and MM aren't scum together. I know I am not scum, and Hybrid is one of the most obvious town members here.
4: Iced reactionary votes yzb at Day One. He repeats this at Day Three when I vote him.
5: Stealthbomber and Hybrid aren't scum together. We know that Hybrid is not scum. Once again, is Stealth scum?
6: Spruance votes everyone for no real reason on Day Two. However, he gets back on track after and stops what was looking like a gamethrowing.
7: Iced is trying to discredit everything his voters say. He probably thinks that everyone will take his word, because he made himself the only credible player in his posts.
8: Stealthbomber and Mesk aren't scum together. They are fighting eachother.

So, I come to these conclusions:
Stealthbomber16 is suspicious, and even more since he votes me and "buys" Iced's arguments.
Mesk514 is obviously town, as are Hybrid and yzb25.
Spruance is likely town, he just turned on the troll mode for a while.
Goat is weird. Changing his vote without real explainations makes him not very town-like, but the behavior of the previous players in his slot was town-like.
Iced initiated the RLVG train for some strange reasons.

Share your reactions and ideas about people. And I would like to hear some defense from Iced_Monopoly.

Lol. So mesk and i cant be scum partners because i voted her in RVS? That really speaks to your ability to feign a town mindset. I mean besides glaring inconsistencies like me voting rlvg for "strange reasons" (fun fact, you previously said i had no reasons), and your obsession with me, this post is probably the only half decent contributiom youve made to this game. Shame its still riddled with issues, bias, and cherrypicked.

Another nail in your coffin as far as im concernes. Goodjob.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Lol. So mesk and i cant be scum partners because i voted her in RVS? That really speaks to your ability to feign a town mindset. I mean besides glaring inconsistencies like me voting rlvg for "strange reasons" (fun fact, you previously said i had no reasons), and your obsession with me, this post is probably the only half decent contributiom youve made to this game. Shame its still riddled with issues, bias, and cherrypicked.

Another nail in your coffin as far as im concernes. Goodjob.

Why would you vote your scum partner as your first post of the game? It would be REALLY weird... Lynch Iced. If I'm wrong, lynch me if you want to.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Why would you vote your scum partner as your first post of the game? It would be REALLY weird... Lynch Iced. If I'm wrong, lynch me if you want to.

Why wouldnt you? Why would anyone of any alignment ever have any concern over who they vote in the opening posts of the game? Its RVS.

[Iced_Monopoly]

"If im wrong, vote me" <- hey look, its scum tactics 101 right here. This is not the mod. This is forum mafia. Clearly youre having trouble making the conversion, and your poor scum plays are seeping out all over the place.

[Iced_Monopoly]

I also know you didnt read the ISO, because I specifically left a comment in there about you not reading it, which given your nature, you wouldve replied to. Youre not just bad scum, but lazy scum.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Nice, you're following the scum. Very nice. Well look at this now.

Iced votes Mesk
Iced votes MM
yzb votes SB16
Spruance votes Firebringer (admitted random)
Hybrid votes MM for aggressivity
yzb votes SB16
Hybrid votes yzb to defend SB16
SB16 votes Hybrid
Hybrid votes SB16 back
Iced votes Hybrid
MM votes yzb
MM votes SB16
yzb votes Iced
Iced votes yzb
SB16 votes Hybrid
Spruance votes Mesk (admitted random with RNG)
Spruance votes SB16

SJ gets lynched.

Hybrid votes Iced
MM votes Iced
SB16 votes Spruance
Spruance votes SB16
Spruance votes Hybrid
Spruance votes SB16
Spruance votes MM
Hybrid votes Spruance
Spruance votes SB16
Mesk votes Spruance
MM votes SB16
Hybrid votes Iced
Goat votes Iced
Mesk hammers RLVG

Hybrid votes Iced
Spruance votes Hybrid
Spruance votes Goat
Spruance re-votes Goat
MM votes Iced
Iced votes MM
MM votes Goat
SB16 votes Mesk
Mesk votes Goat
SB16 votes MM
Goat votes yzb

This is the list of all votes made by living players against living players.

So what can we tell about teams by looking at this list?

1: Iced and Mesk aren't scum together, because Iced wouldn't vote his teammate like that as a first post.
2: yzb votes Stealthbomber. Yzb is likely Town, not that sure about Stealthbomber.
3: Hybrid and MM aren't scum together. I know I am not scum, and Hybrid is one of the most obvious town members here.
4: Iced reactionary votes yzb at Day One. He repeats this at Day Three when I vote him.
5: Stealthbomber and Hybrid aren't scum together. We know that Hybrid is not scum. Once again, is Stealth scum?
6: Spruance votes everyone for no real reason on Day Two. However, he gets back on track after and stops what was looking like a gamethrowing.
7: Iced is trying to discredit everything his voters say. He probably thinks that everyone will take his word, because he made himself the only credible player in his posts.
8: Stealthbomber and Mesk aren't scum together. They are fighting eachother.

So, I come to these conclusions:
Stealthbomber16 is suspicious, and even more since he votes me and "buys" Iced's arguments.
Mesk514 is obviously town, as are Hybrid and yzb25.
Spruance is likely town, he just turned on the troll mode for a while.
Goat is weird. Changing his vote without real explainations makes him not very town-like, but the behavior of the previous players in his slot was town-like.
Iced initiated the RLVG train for some strange reasons.

Share your reactions and ideas about people. And I would like to hear some defense from Iced_Monopoly.

Asks me to defend myself. Provides 0 defense against the iso and its all the points within it. There is nobody being lynched today besides MM. This is irrefutably not a town slot.

Going to stsrt working on associations

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Anyone here knows Iced? If yes, could you tell me if he resists that much when he's scum? Because he's really virulent lol. I'd ask to everyone that thinks I am town to vote Iced down. He is obviously not going to help town, and I'm 99% sure he's scum.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Anyone here knows Iced? If yes, could you tell me if he resists that much when he's scum? Because he's really virulent lol. I'd ask to everyone that thinks I am town to vote Iced down. He is obviously not going to help town, and I'm 99% sure he's scum.

>>>cant defend self against anything in iso
>>>doesnt know what to do as scum
>>>appeals to meta to try as save himself

This game is finally taking a turn for the better

[Spruance]

iced if you are town please stop voting Marshmallow. He is town... If you aren't town then my theories are incorrect and I'd be sad.

[Spruance]

I am fine with a goat, hybrid, or stealth lynch today, although I would rather it be my decision to avoid any mafia interference.

[Iced_Monopoly]

iced if you are town please stop voting Marshmallow. He is town... If you aren't town then my theories are incorrect and I'd be sad.

Have. You. Read. The. Iso.
My god. MM is not town.

[Mesk514]

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

i read sincere frustration from iced.

[Spruance]

Good job guys. 3 mislynches in a row. Why do people always yell at me when everyone else is way shittier. I actually point out the mafia. Everyone else listens to the mafia and smh town and votes yet another townie. Well played I guess.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Good job guys. 3 mislynches in a row. Why do people always yell at me when everyone else is way shittier. I actually point out the mafia. Everyone else listens to the mafia and smh town and votes yet another townie. Well played I guess.

Who is yelling at you?
Who is listening to the maf?

Literally MM CANNOT be town. Read the iso. Its not even remotely possible.

[GoatseOntheCupboard]

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

i read sincere frustration from iced.

Noob shit tbh, you know the game is being manipulated by the better players and that Spru, MM, Hybrid you and I are town. Iced SB16 and YZB are the mafia team, navigating to a perfect win just like how they shipped RLVG over iced because nobody cares enough to read posts. Town shuld be shipping YZB real quick tbqh

[GoatseOntheCupboard]

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

i read sincere frustration from iced.

The "act frustrated and people will townread you" meta was established at the end of Spruances bitch fit that he threw after him v. SB16, and was subsequently copied by YZB, MM, SB16 and should literally be ignored completely

[Iced_Monopoly]

Noob shit tbh, you know the game is being manipulated by the better players and that Spru, MM, Hybrid you and I are town. Iced SB16 and YZB are the mafia team, navigating to a perfect win just like how they shipped RLVG over iced because nobody cares enough to read posts. Town shuld be shipping YZB real quick tbqh

So your only scum reads are veteran players. Because theyre veteran players. Well that sounds solid af. Definitely a well supported arguement thats impossible to ignore. Oh wait.

Heres a counter proposal that is just as baseless. The scum team are all noobs who are literally skating by because theyre so fucking useless theyre being read as dumb town. And when attention actually falls on them, their only defense is some crappy meta based "the vets are pulling strings"

I have said this too many times. This is not the mod. Make a goddamn case with evidence and arguements.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

i read sincere frustration from iced.

Because he's scum and that people don't vote me? Lol...

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I'm L-2. I think I die today if you townies dont switch your votes to Iced immediatly. I don't want to die, because if I die, we lose. Seriously.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Where is @Hybrid . Pls vote someone so that you can flip onto the MM train at the last minute. Kthx.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Yzb, Hybrid and Spruance, I demand your help! I need you to vote either Iced or Stealthbomber. The scum team is revealing. Iced, SB16 and... who else? Mesk is just a fooled town in my opinion.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Yzb, Hybrid and Spruance, I demand your help! I need you to vote either Iced or Stealthbomber. The scum team is revealing. Iced, SB16 and... who else? Mesk is just a fooled town in my opinion.

Oh? This is rather telling. Are your allies outside of this circle? You dont strike me to be quite dumb enough to directly call on your teammates for votes... although, as evidenced directly by your actions this game, maybe you are...

Let me help you out. @yzb25 @Hybrid @Spruance MM requires your assistance.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Oh? This is rather telling. Are your allies outside of this circle? You dont strike me to be quite dumb enough to directly call on your teammates for votes... although, as evidenced directly by your actions this game, maybe you are...

Let me help you out. @yzb25 @Hybrid @Spruance MM requires your assistance.

If I was scum, I wouldn't call my teammates out like that... I'm calling the guys that still have a brain and think I am town.