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    Re: S-FM 306: Mafia Wars (13p Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by DS. View Post
    No I am asking who is the FBI agent with that combo?

    Everyone needs to come up with three scum at least, most likely four scum currently right now if Im thinking it all through
    I believe it's Auwt and baker, i thought it was auwt and banana because of some similar patterns, but banana could just be town or mole here.

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    Re: S-FM 306: Mafia Wars (13p Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDucky View Post
    I have MM as town as of day 1 and 2 yeah. I havn't had the chance to evaluate anything from him yet today. But im not home yet.
    if you are wrong on this we essentially lose the game btw because of his votes. If MM scum we 100% have to eliminate him today

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    Re: S-FM 306: Mafia Wars (13p Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by DS. View Post
    if you are wrong on this we essentially lose the game btw because of his votes. If MM scum we 100% have to eliminate him today
    Do i vote with the chance someones scum and we lose tho?

    Id rather vote a scum read be wrong and lose that way if thats the case.

    If the entire games convinced MM is scum, except me he's dead anyways lol. As of Day 1 and 2 i have MM as my strongest town

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    Re: S-FM 306: Mafia Wars (13p Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by DS. View Post
    The Varcron flip doesnt make you hesitate about that at all?
    see, I would have bought his capo claim if his thought process was towny. i find it very scummy to speculate based on one story.


    the tailor is a possibility. same with drug dealer. i don't know what makes renengade fbi according to ducky's world here while, I know i caught ducky and came clean to town as soon as I confirmed it to myself. I could have done this on day 2 but it wasn't 100% to me back then. now it is.


    the moment i realized we are hunting for scums i unvoted ducky. if anything, all my actions brought us here so I wonder if ducky is doing this on purpose to save someone. i still can't see their game but i know they are scumlock.

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    Re: S-FM 306: Mafia Wars (13p Ongoing)

    Consort - baker
    Beguiler - Naz
    Caporegime - ducky
    Janitor - Varcron
    Tailor
    Underboss - DS
    Drug Dealer
    Kidnapper
    Blackmailer - Dark Magician
    Godfather - MM
    Agent
    Brutalizer - Light Yagami
    Mafioso - Frinckles


    I think I am missing a few claims can people help me out with this?

    Isn't Mesk claiming Mafioso? But that already flipped?

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    Re: S-FM 306: Mafia Wars (13p Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by DS. View Post
    I mean, you don't KNOW it to be true, but from your pov it is a possible world. I can check him tonight to see if he comes back agent or not.
    i can see no kills for two nights.

    i have followed leads and tracks entire game. my reads on him were spot on and i have breadcrumbed it entire game.

    let me bring some to your attention DS.

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    Re: S-FM 306: Mafia Wars (13p Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDucky View Post
    Any alignment can bread crumb a role especially if any alignment can essentially land any role, that doesn't make you towny imo.
    I never claimed that itself to be only criteria. That is only about confirming my actions over a long period of time where your claim sounds like you just made it up since it came very late.

    If anything, you haven't been a solver this entire game but only pointed fingers at people you believe are lucianos. i mean you are outed scum here and I am only trying to figure out who are the people you have connection with also I don't want to risk a defeat with other threats present.

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    Re: S-FM 306: Mafia Wars (13p Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDucky View Post
    Lucianos i believe can kill and use their action so agent should be able to do the same id say.
    ^^

    Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
    Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
    If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.

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    Re: S-FM 306: Mafia Wars (13p Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir View Post
    I never claimed that itself to be only criteria. That is only about confirming my actions over a long period of time where your claim sounds like you just made it up since it came very late.

    If anything, you haven't been a solver this entire game but only pointed fingers at people you believe are lucianos. i mean you are outed scum here and I am only trying to figure out who are the people you have connection with also I don't want to risk a defeat with other threats present.
    You actions are n1 rb ducky n2 rb ducky lol.

    I have been solving it should be evident enough in my posts. I've built worlds with different players as scum, noted scummy actions. I know i've done my job as best I can .

    You havn't done much solving aside from "ducky is outted scum."

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDucky View Post
    You actions are n1 rb ducky n2 rb ducky lol.

    I have been solving it should be evident enough in my posts. I've built worlds with different players as scum, noted scummy actions. I know i've done my job as best I can .

    You havn't done much solving aside from "ducky is outted scum."
    Well this proves you haven't been reading me at all. I have breadcrumbed possible groups in my flavor posts. I have established these groups not with town to scum labels but more about how often some people interact with each other and what kind of a relationship they have. I have placed you in group 1 with varcron and ds on day 1. I have found you to be most scummy out of all three based on your interactions with other people. As I explained it before, i roleblocked you night one. i see no kill but i don't jump to conclusions. Even when you made another push on me during day 2 I still didnt bring this fact to your face. Night 2 I visited you thinking I might die so in my lw I call you out anyway.

    i don't even need to explain myself on my interactions with other people. like you are trying to make it sound like i have tunneled on you or something which is ridiculous mate

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    Re: S-FM 306: Mafia Wars (13p Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir View Post
    Well this proves you haven't been reading me at all. I have breadcrumbed possible groups in my flavor posts. I have established these groups not with town to scum labels but more about how often some people interact with each other and what kind of a relationship they have. I have placed you in group 1 with varcron and ds on day 1. I have found you to be most scummy out of all three based on your interactions with other people. As I explained it before, i roleblocked you night one. i see no kill but i don't jump to conclusions. Even when you made another push on me during day 2 I still didnt bring this fact to your face. Night 2 I visited you thinking I might die so in my lw I call you out anyway.

    i don't even need to explain myself on my interactions with other people. like you are trying to make it sound like i have tunneled on you or something which is ridiculous mate
    Look you can say that you've done these things over and over again but when you just put people's names together as pairs that doesn't mean anything. I've been scum reading people for actual misplays in their posts. Another words I find contradictions when people are pushing other players and I know them and post them and show them where they contradict themselves or others Town should have no reason have those type of inconsistencies like I've put about in most of my reads especially when I case you and your partner. I had Associated Reed with banana and mask. I read into MM, and his association with others you just come across and flat-out say I've been haven't done this when I have. I have both yours and your partner case is already in my last wish along with some other things. That way hopefully people read it and upon my flip they actually will believe it because it is the truth. I'm not asking you to explain your traction with other people because you've done a decent job at looking like a town. It's not ridiculous with your tunnel it's the truth

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    Re: S-FM 306: Mafia Wars (13p Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDucky View Post
    Look you can say that you've done these things over and over again but when you just put people's names together as pairs that doesn't mean anything. I've been scum reading people for actual misplays in their posts. Another words I find contradictions when people are pushing other players and I know them and post them and show them where they contradict themselves or others Town should have no reason have those type of inconsistencies like I've put about in most of my reads especially when I case you and your partner. I had Associated Reed with banana and mask. I read into MM, and his association with others you just come across and flat-out say I've been haven't done this when I have. I have both yours and your partner case is already in my last wish along with some other things. That way hopefully people read it and upon my flip they actually will believe it because it is the truth. I'm not asking you to explain your traction with other people because you've done a decent job at looking like a town. It's not ridiculous with your tunnel it's the truth
    Not a huge fan of the "tone".

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDucky View Post
    Sorry I'm driving and using voice talk that last post was garbled mess LOL
    Oh.

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    Re: S-FM 306: Mafia Wars (13p Ongoing)

    I am a mafioso, yes.

    @LuckyDucky , banana jailed me. Our conversation was pretty decent. The one thing that slightly threw me off yesterday was I highlighted to him why I didn't think Varcron was scummy. One of the first questions he asked me was how did I feel about his claim. It made no sense to me as for a scum to claim janitor, that shit was easily confirmable. Also I never said i would sheep or blindly follow him. I told him a reason to not execute me was because now it would be easier to work together. TOWN CORE. but either way, I was still his #2 lynch option.

    I dont find his actions to be scummy. He also never told me he was the kidnapper
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    Re: S-FM 306: Mafia Wars (13p Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by DS. View Post
    My gut has said all game that Ducky is town, Banana is town, Naz was town. Outside of that I felt that MM is scum and that his Baker and Auwt's pushes against me have been unfounded.

    Thats why I checked Baker last night.
    I mean everyone but the FBI agent can be any role, I don't doubt baker being escort, I was confirmed not saving naz, I doubt his alignment being town because of scum reading someone for a reason he made up, then when proven wrong, literally just says dont deny you did that.... like seriously lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by DS. View Post
    Need claims from Banana and Auwt still
    Banana has already claimed Kidnapper.
    I haven't claimed anything yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

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    Re: S-FM 306: Mafia Wars (13p Ongoing)

    So I am at the same time with Banana, bakermir and MM.
    Oh and optionally with Mesk too, according to some post.
    Incredible, whatever.

    Apart from that, to be fair,
    Ducky's inconsistencies are overwhelming this game.
    I've already pointed out multiple things that proove his scuminess, I will tell this once again, have a look at the whole page 20.
    It may take you maybe 15 minutes to read this page fully, but it's fully full of fully interesting points on Ducky's case.
    I am honestly tired to see that everything I've done so far is useless because people prefers to speculate on other players.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

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    Re: S-FM 306: Mafia Wars (13p Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    I am a mafioso, yes.

    @LuckyDucky , banana jailed me. Our conversation was pretty decent. The one thing that slightly threw me off yesterday was I highlighted to him why I didn't think Varcron was scummy. One of the first questions he asked me was how did I feel about his claim. It made no sense to me as for a scum to claim janitor, that shit was easily confirmable. Also I never said i would sheep or blindly follow him. I told him a reason to not execute me was because now it would be easier to work together. TOWN CORE. but either way, I was still his #2 lynch option.

    I dont find his actions to be scummy. He also never told me he was the kidnapper
    I can clearly see now why banana was suspicious of Varcron.. My logic was to roleblock a possible scum but then Varcron's game didn't make any sense from FBI PoV. Surely their shaky claim and refusal to take a stance on anyone was a problem because scum can easily hide behind such mask. I actually stopped thinking about Varcron at this point when Dark Magician revealed their thoughts on FBI hunt and how some things can only be said by rolecards. So I had this opinion of Varcon: if Varcron is scum he is most likely Luciano or the Mole.

    Then looking at between Ducky and DS, I came to conclusion Ducky might actually be the scum itself based on their d1 interactions before and after the brutalizer event. It was odd enough they claimed it to be a likely TvT and paid no interested in reading into both Light_Yagami and Frinckles/MM. After the brutalizer; Ducky openly tried to negotiate with people like MM and Varcron. Then Ducky tried to negotiate with me and Banana with offering Auwt lynch on d2/d3. This to me feels like Ducky sees things about everyone here we are unable to see. For a long time I tried to find out who could benefit most from Ducky's actions and I failed to find anyone except him.


    There is no way Ducky being caporegime here as he sees the game quite differently than rest of us and nothing he does aligns with Gambino mindset. This isn't just about me roleblocking them but I can actively read the scum on this slot for a long time. Yesterday's lunch should have been LuckyDucky and if not, we should have picked between Godfather vs Underboss.

    I can understand the Varcron paranoia. Honestly, he is to be blamed here for this situation we have. I just wish he said something or voted somebody. I can' blame anyone voting him out unless a possible scum being ok with that. This is where I base my eod2 and day 3 reads. Ducky to me is obvious FBI. There is a big possiblity a Luciano voted out Varcron at best. Mesk claiming kidnapped made me question my myself. No FBI kill, I roleblock Ducky and Mesk claims kidnapped. But then I thought why would kidnapper release Mesk? It made no sense. Mesk called it all out in public and thats where I changed my opinion on some stuff. Roleblocking Ducky N2 proven to me I was right with my reads on him.

    My vote will be on LuckyDucky if we can't come to peace with knowing MM can be scum mayor based on setup allowing such a thing.. I was ready for a DS flip yesterday as it carried more information value than Varcron flip imo. I started seeing Varcron more in line with Mesk's gameplay and during the exchanges eod2 and start of day3 I have decided I will be accepting Mesk/Banana towncore. Obviously we have no fuckin idea if Varcron or naz were tailored or not. It seems like the setup heavily favor the scum teams here and I am getting the feeling like this is our last day friends.

    I want all of us to come clean and tell me where I am thinking wrong... I can only say Ducky isn't Caporegime and they are outed scum. I am ok with having DS check them tomorrow if needed however I am certain this lunch will give great odds to us.

    There is one part I don't understand.


    If we lunch Ducky today and one of us gambinos die tonight, will it be L-4 for lunch tomorrow? If yes then we have to make up our mind on MM soon.

    If we lunch MM today and they flip town, Ducky can become tomorrows lunch finally but it might be late because they can get a mole tonight.



    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Wow is this game over?
    Assuming scum mayor and scum tailor are a possibility, I can't quite see us winning this game. We still need to hear from MM here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir View Post
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    If we lunch Ducky today and one of us gambinos die tonight, will it be L-4 for lunch tomorrow? If yes then we have to make up our mind on MM soon.

    If we lunch MM today and they flip town, Ducky can become tomorrows lunch finally but it might be late because they can get a mole tonight.

    Assuming scum mayor and scum tailor are a possibility, I can't quite see us winning this game. We still need to hear from MM here.
    How can ducky get a mole in your first scenario if you continue to RB them?

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