S-FM 306: Mafia Wars (13p Ongoing)

[BananaCucho]

*puts on tin foil hat*

Guys

What if we've been barking up the wrong tree

What if Varcron was tailored to be a red janitor lmao

[BananaCucho]

Auwt + Mallow Lucianos?

[BananaCucho]

DS. FBI

Ducky mole

???

[BananaCucho]

But fucking Mesk can't be a fucking mafioso

It's just not possible

Right?

[DS.]

That's not verifiable at all, you could definitely be FBI agent

I mean it's pretty obvious that's why I corrected him but sure. No one else claims then and I verify it off one of the unclaimed

[DS.]

Still easily verifiable

[Auwt]

I want Ducky dead, derp derp derp

But scum godfather is too big of a problem to put off til later

And so you are ready to gamble on MM flip? Wow.

[DS.]

Unless something else comes to light I don't see why the execution order isn't just MM, ducky for now

[Renegade]

Yes I realized after that was presented as an IF THEN but really I meant those as two separate statements. (The not having a mole/ no arrests statements aren't necessarily related.)

[Renegade]

And so you are ready to gamble on MM flip? Wow.

I think we (Gambino) have to. Are you not Gambino?

[Renegade]

Baker if you are the FBI agent and faking blocking Ducky that is a big brain move.

So far that is the most compelling evidence that Ducky is FBI.

[DS.]

Baker if you are the FBI agent and faking blocking Ducky that is a big brain move.

So far that is the most compelling evidence that Ducky is FBI.

I am confirming baker is consort

[Renegade]

I am confirming baker is consort

You and Baker certainly could be a team, but this would be even more evidence.

[bakermir]

You and Baker certainly could be a team, but this would be even more evidence.

tbh between their underboss claim and massclaim i had a very scum view of them. but with todays reality, i am glad to see some of us are bringing hard town plays

[Auwt]

I think we (Gambino) have to. Are you not Gambino?

Well I am, but MM's concerns on DS. look legit to me.
I just don't feel it's overall a great idea to get MM down.

So far in this game, trains redirection has shown me bad vibes, so I tend to stay away from them, and I keep pushing the scummiest to my pov.

[Auwt]

I just realized something by reading the Underboss rolecard.



> Claims Underboss
> Doesn't give any results
> Calls for a mass claim

Something tells me the next step is "Gives the "information" we already know because everyone claimed"... Claiming is a BAD IDEA.

Funny enough, that is so true.
Funny enough, that's what is just happening.

[DS.]

Well I am, but MM's concerns on DS. look legit to me.
I just don't feel it's overall a great idea to get MM down.

So far in this game, trains redirection has shown me bad vibes, so I tend to stay away from them, and I keep pushing the scummiest to my pov.

Sorry but what if his concerns do you believe are legitimate? He hasn't made any real case on me other than stating that I don't have a case on him (which I agree with, I am voting him purely off my GOAT level gut read of him)

[DS.]

Funny enough, that is so true.
Funny enough, that's what is just happening.

Again, I am still confirmable since we have roles that haven't been claimed. If no one else claims I can verify myself off one of them.

Also, from my POV I thought my soft that I had checked baker was pretty obvious it's not my fault you all can't read between the lines

[Auwt]

Sorry but what if his concerns do you believe are legitimate? He hasn't made any real case on me other than stating that I don't have a case on him (which I agree with, I am voting him purely off my GOAT level gut read of him)

Voting for no reason plus not having a town investigative mindset.
To confirm your role, as an invest you have to claim first, thing that you didn't do.
I'm not saying that you're fake claiming, however you claim is shaky after mass role claim, that you asked for.
Anyone could join now and say : I know Banana is kidnapper, I know bakermir is consort and so on...
Since you've just given us a one day read that has already been confirmed before, this is basicaly useless cause it's bringing anything new.

[Auwt]

Again, I am still confirmable since we have roles that haven't been claimed. If no one else claims I can verify myself off one of them.

Also, from my POV I thought my soft that I had checked baker was pretty obvious it's not my fault you all can't read between the lines

So you are claiming knowing a role of someone that hasn't claimed?

[DS.]

So you are claiming knowing a role of someone that hasn't claimed?

No, I am saying that I checked Baker who was consort (and corrected him when he said escort) and that I can check one of the unclaimed people tonight and they can verify my result.

[DS.]

Voting for no reason plus not having a town investigative mindset.
To confirm your role, as an invest you have to claim first, thing that you didn't do.
I'm not saying that you're fake claiming, however you claim is shaky after mass role claim, that you asked for.
Anyone could join now and say : I know Banana is kidnapper, I know bakermir is consort and so on...
Since you've just given us a one day read that has already been confirmed before, this is basicaly useless cause it's bringing anything new.

Im not voting for no reason. I think MM is scum. Im not the type of player who goes back to make cases on people. I believe MM is scum and I want to see him flip. You may find that scummy, fine. But you're backing someone who directly pushed varcron for days and varcron ended up town. How did MM's casework fair there?

Also, i claimed Underboss FAR before any massclaim.

[DS.]

Personally I was playing my role as an investigative with a result held back to keep everyone honest before revealing my result - this comes from me knowing that I am town.

I can see how you all would be suspect of that if you think I am scum, which is why I outted my result.

[LuckyDucky]

@banana you got so aggressive and suicidal when i claimed you were aligned with AUWT. besides the fact that you know your own alignment, why just auto lock me as scum for scum reading you?

Your sincere aggression has me second guessing, and if im wrong about you then i need to re evaluate something major.

[LuckyDucky]

I am Caporegime.
N1 i was on Marsh
N2 i was on naz, can confirn i was RB'd but that doesn't auto lock baker as town as he could still be mole/luciano.

[LuckyDucky]

You know what i was wrong about banana.

-vote bakermir

[DS.]

I am Caporegime.
N1 i was on Marsh
N2 i was on naz, can confirn i was RB'd but that doesn't auto lock baker as town as he could still be mole/luciano.

You can't confirm a n1 block?

[LuckyDucky]

N1 obviously not, but N2 i can.

[DS.]

Just because of the Naz kill? Or were you told that you were blocked?

[LuckyDucky]

Actually i have a question for aivion i didnt think to ask.

@AIVION can doctor heal an un revealed godfather?

[LuckyDucky]

Just because of the Naz kill? Or were you told that you were blocked?

I wasn't told anything but naz was killed so i can confirm i was blocked.

[AIVION]

Actually i have a question for aivion i didnt think to ask.

@AIVION can doctor heal an un revealed godfather?

The role card states they cannot protect a Godfather. I'm assuming that means Period

So no, a Caporegime cannot protect a Godfather at all.

[Auwt]

Im not voting for no reason. I think MM is scum. Im not the type of player who goes back to make cases on people. I believe MM is scum and I want to see him flip. You may find that scummy, fine. But you're backing someone who directly pushed varcron for days and varcron ended up town. How did MM's casework fair there?

Also, i claimed Underboss FAR before any massclaim.

I won't defend MM, because that's his job to answer this, not mine.
You certainly claimed Underboss far before calling out a massclaim, however when you claimed, you didn't send your nights results.
You waited for some of us to claim a role FIRST and THEN you gave us one of your night results.
That is pretty different.

[LuckyDucky]

@Mesk514 you really need to come talk to me about how banana is town for you instead of just fuck you hes town lol.

[Auwt]

I am Caporegime.
N1 i was on Marsh
N2 i was on naz, can confirn i was RB'd but that doesn't auto lock baker as town as he could still be mole/luciano.

I don't see anything in the setup related to a roleblock feedback?

[DS.]

I won't defend MM, because that's his job to answer this, not mine.
You certainly claimed Underboss far before calling out a massclaim, however when you claimed, you didn't send your nights results.
You waited for some of us to claim a role FIRST and THEN you gave us one of your night results.
That is pretty different.

Eh, I think if you look at it from my pov you can see how I called out Baker for claiming escort. That was my soft.

I also didnt have n1 results because when I claimed yesterday I still thought Underboss was a VT because i misread my role pm

[DS.]

I don't see anything in the setup related to a roleblock feedback?

it actually says no feedback would be given

Consort
At night, you may seduce one player, roleblocking them.
Target will NOT be informed of being seduced.

[Auwt]

N1 obviously not, but N2 i can.

Bakermir is claiming to have roleblocked you both night.
You claimed going on MM first night, and naz second night.

Why wouldn't you be able to confirm a night 1 roleblock then if you can confirm a night 2?

[DS.]

but Ducky is just saying that he submitted for Naz and Naz died so its obvious he was blocked.

[Auwt]

it actually says no feedback would be given

Consort
At night, you may seduce one player, roleblocking them.
Target will NOT be informed of being seduced.

Then how is Ducky supposed to know bakermir roleblocked him?

[Auwt]

but Ducky is just saying that he submitted for Naz and Naz died so its obvious he was blocked.

Oh okay gotcha, misunderstandment on my side.

[LuckyDucky]

Bakermir is claiming to have roleblocked you both night.
You claimed going on MM first night, and naz second night.

Why wouldn't you be able to confirm a night 1 roleblock then if you can confirm a night 2?

because naz is dead...

[LuckyDucky]

If banana is town it's auwt/baker 100%

[DS.]

If banana is town it's auwt/baker 100%

who is FBI there?

[LuckyDucky]

N1 kidnap and NOT executing is not optimal play for scum. As suspect as it was that banana jailed mesk and expected the sheep, if that is within bananas town range then i've had it backwards today, and need to revert back to my baker push. Auwt works too.

[LuckyDucky]

Banana has not once tried to push for a no lynch to get that extra KPN.

FUCK

[LuckyDucky]

who is FBI there?

I'd say neither.

[DS.]

I'd say neither.

No I am asking who is the FBI agent with that combo?

Everyone needs to come up with three scum at least, most likely four scum currently right now if Im thinking it all through

[LuckyDucky]

Fbi from my POV would have to be renengade because of the claims. His mole could likely be anyone between MM, BANANA, (Myself from everyones POV), Mesk, You (DS).

[DS.]

MM is confirmed not FBI Agent
Baker is confirmed Consort (from my pov at least), which also makes him not FBI Agent