HeroOfChrist: 1-S2-1-11787846, Solid: 1-S2-1-353248, Etienne: 1-S2-1-12243776, CDub 1-S2-1-1270546

**MicoolTNT** · March 28th, 2023, 08:25 PM

Account Name: HeroOfChrist, Solid, Etienne, Cdub.
Account ID: 1-S2-1-11787846, 1-S2-1-353248, 1-S2-1-12243776, 1-S2-1-1270546
In-Game Name: White Hero, Sand Nigger, The Original Coke, Possibly Putin.

Crimes Committed: Racism/Hate Speech, Griefing.

Your Account Name: RaikiriNix
Summary: HeroOfChrist/"White Hero" (Crier, revealed d2) used pro-white racist rhetoric from the start of the game (both as Crier and in general chat as themselves). Both their names make trolling intent obvious.

(May also have preferred Crier to troll, consider checking for bank hacking?)

Solid/"Sand Nigger" chose that name, then later in the game said "fuck u jews" "burn in hell" when hung (d2 or 3 I think).

Etienne/"The Original Coke" wrote pro-Putin/pro-war-crimes rhetoric at several points during day chat ("Putin is literally doing God's work" d1) and left a LW reading "I STAND WITH PUTIN | STOP TRANS TERRORISM".

Cdub/"Possibly Putin" chose that name and roleplayed accordingly, and also said "the crier has the point" in response to the crier's hateful rhetoric, as well as leaving a LW acknowledging him/calling back to what he said and expressing support for the invasion of Ukraine ("doing God's work.... Z").

Replay: Nazis Everywhere, Report.SC2Replay

**Arrow** · April 1st, 2023, 11:35 AM

This is gonna be a mess. In review.

**Arrow** · April 1st, 2023, 06:41 PM

SC ID VERIFICATION
HeroOfChrist: 1-S2-1-11787846 is Correct.
Solid: 1-S2-1-353248 is Correct.
Etienne: 1-S2-1-12243776 is Correct.
CDub: 1-S2-1-1270546 is Correct.

Respective Hotkey:

HeroOfChrist: Ctrl+6
Solid: 7
Etienne: 3
CDub: Ctrl+1

Previous Offenses:

HeroOfChrist: None
Solid: 3x WL at https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...=1-S2-1-353248
Etienne: Teflon coated
CDub: None

Key Points:
Players in question:

HeroOfChrist - "White Hero" - CRIER - 14
Despite speculation, HeroOfChrist does not use -prefer.

Solid - "Sand N****r" - ENCHANTRESS - 7
Solid gets "New player" messages. He has 9 points, and 0 wins of 1 game played.

Etienne - "The Original Coke" - LOVER - 3
Etienne blacklists MAYOR, DOCTOR, BODYGUARD, MARSHALL, CORONER, SPY, SERIAL KILLER, DRAGON HEAD, FORGER, and ARSONIST.
Etienne prefers ORACLE, JESTER, LOVER, POISONER, and EXECUTIONER.

CDub - "Possibly Putin" - ARMORSMITH - 6

Game:

Setup: Helios has the host. He selects a save slot with what appears to be a standard 8/3/3/1 Triad save. No other discussion.
Names: Aside the reported, another player chooses "Hang Pro Putin Nazis". He ends up in slot 8.
Roles: None.
D1: 6 (ARMORSMITH) roleplays. 7 (ENCHANTRESS) hurls a racial slur aimed at "sand n****rs". 14 (CRIER) says "All hail whites" in crier chat (there is no JUDGE, so all crier chat at night can be attributed to him). 8 complains about the jerks, and 3 (LOVER) says "Putin is doing god's work".
N1: 14 pushes in crier chat for evils to kill 8, "Defintely not white, def not christian". 7 lures 8 and repels 7, and ends up in a MAGIC DUEL with a WITCH, which he wins. 3 sets a LW of "I STAND WITH PUTIN STOP TRANS TERRORISM" referencing recent events, and falls in love with 8. 6 hands out a bulletproof vest to 4, who was roleplaying fealty to him. Kills: TRIAD, ENCHANTRESS.
D2: 5 (PARTY HOST) and 9 (WITCH) are dead. 6 says "The crier has the point" referencing last night's crier chat. 14 hardclaims CRIER and asks for roles. After a series of PMs, he starts a train on 7, which gets him to trial. 7 defends with antisemitism and goes down 6-0. Flip is ENCHANTRESS. 3 says "this is an agent of zelensky, you can tell by the nazi rhetoric" against 7.
N2: 14 calls out 2's lack of PM. 7 is dead. 3 resets his LW to the same. 6 tries to give 14 a vest. However, the MASS MURDERER is lurking 14's house. Kills: TRIAD, MASS MURDERER, LOVER.
D3: 8 (MASS MURDERER), 3 (LOVER), 14 (CRIER), and 6 (ARMORSMITH) are dead. A MARSHALL, 2 SHERIFFs, and a VIGILANTE oppose a DIVA, DRAGON HEAD, and LIAISON. I'll get the log of chat for the accused'd deadchat from Scelight later. 13 reveals as MARSHALL, starting a double execution on an ELO day. 2 (DRAGON HEAD) and 11 (SHERIFF) are removed.
N3: The LIAISON converts to ENFORCER. All reported players are dead. Kills: VIGILANTE, TRIAD.
D4: 15 (DIVA disguised as SHERIFF) and 13 are both dead. 12 is sent to trial and goes down, flipping SHERIFF.
N4: Kills: VIGILANTE, TRIAD.
D5: 4 (SHERIFF) and 10 (VIGILANTE) are dead. The lone TRIAD ENFORCER claims a win.

Scelight game log:

Spoiler : What a mess :

Was the game result altered?
Had the ENCHANTRESS actually defended instead of spewing hate, they probably would've gotten off trial since there was no good counterclaim and their existence was already proven. So I'm going to say YES.

Player Offenses:

HeroOfChrist: Griefing
Solid: Griefing
Etienne: Griefing
CDub: Possible griefing

Recommended Actions:

See below

Additional Notes:
Thank you for the report!

**Arrow** · April 15th, 2023, 05:37 PM

1-S2-1-11787846: 4x WL
1-S2-1-353248: 2x banlist
1-S2-1-12243776: 3x WL
1-S2-1-1270546: 2x WL

**Etienne** · April 17th, 2023, 05:41 PM

I am requesting an appeal. I did not break any rules. This is what the website describes as griefing:

Crime: Griefing
Griefing is trolling to the point of the game being ruined.
Examples:
1) Lying about being a sheriff just because you want the guy with the colored name to be lynched
2) Targeting a player because of their SC2 identity regardless of actual evidence
3) Running a setup with Stumps or Scumbags assigned (roles which are impossible to generate without hacking one's bank or copying someone's setup who has done so).
4) Spamming excessively, especially anything unrelated to the game.

My leaving that last will, which I do not consider trolling, did not ruin the game.

When I addressed this on Discord, Arrow said the following:

"Hate speech and discriminatory language is inappropriate, as is any obscene or disruptive language" .

"Behavior that intentionally detracts from others' enjoyment is unacceptable"
If you want to continue advocating for a guy who's fielding mobile crematoria in order to hide evidence of war crimes, go ahead. Free speech does not, however, mean freedom from consequences.
ANd that's all I'm gonna say on that.

I could not adequately defend myself without going into murky waters and breaking the rules of General Chat, and Arrow is not part of Thunderdome.

None of that applies here. Nothing I said can reasonably be considered as "hate speech". Nothing I said intentionally detracted from others' enjoyment, and the part about "fielding mobile crematoria in order to hide evidence of war crimes" is something I vehemently disagree with, but that is besides the point because that isn't "God's work" or the reason why I "stand with Putin". Good things are happening in the Donbas region, which had been shelled non-stop since 2014 until Putin put an end to that. Good things are happening in the world now that western hegemony is being challenged by BRICS, in no small part due to Putin and his ability to work with other countries like India and Brazil, which are often sidelined and ignored by Western powers. So to say that I am spreading hate speech, respectfully, shows bias and Russophobia.

**rumox** · April 18th, 2023, 05:01 AM

No more commenting in this thread as a non-involved player. Make a thread elsewhere or take it off site. Future comments will be infracted.

**Etienne** · April 19th, 2023, 07:14 PM

Just so you guys are aware. I am still awaiting a response for my request on an appeal. If the appeal is denied, please let me know and tell me exactly what I said that is considered "griefing".

**Sheriff** · April 21st, 2023, 07:25 PM

SC ID VERIFICATION
Etienne 1-S2-1-12243776 Correct

Respective Hotkeys
3

Summary
Extracted chat log:

Spoiler : Chat Log :

Spoiler : Last Will :

Offending lines highlighted

Player Offenses
Griefing

Recommended Action
WLx4

Additional Notes
This review of the facts is final and the findings are not open for appeal.

Whether or not Arrow increases the punishment in accordance with the recommended action is left up to Arrow's discretion.

**Etienne** · April 21st, 2023, 08:05 PM

So to be clear. Are you saying that "I stand with Putin" is against the rules and considered griefing? Can you point me to a rule that was broken?

**Sheriff** · April 21st, 2023, 08:43 PM

Similarly locking this thread.

The judgement is final.

If you have questions, as I recommended in the other thread, you should post them in the Answer Hall subforum

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