Vincukas 1-S2-1-9757360

[Listener]

Account Name: Vincukas
Account ID: 1-S2-1-9757360
In-Game Name: Grand Inquisitor

Crimes Committed: Game Throwing

Your Account Name: Listener
Summary: On N1 Vincukas is Liason, he says he is gonna do something dumb, D2 rolls around, and he announces that he tried to roleblock me (6 DH) and that I was roleblock immune. Marshall reveals and lynches both of us. Even until the end he insists that he roleblocked me and that I was immune, outing me to town and Marshall. -Mafia- (138).SC2Replay

[Arrow]

SC ID VERIFICATION
1-S2-1-9757360 is Correct.


Respective Hotkey:

5

Previous Offenses:

2 prior ignored reports.

Player Offenses:

Gamethrowing, possible.

Key Points:
Players in question:

Vincukas - LIASION - 11

Game:


Setup: Vincukas offers an 8331 save. He requests an AUDITOR be in the spawn table.
Names: None.
Roles: None.
D1: 11 (LIASION) claims VETERAN and that you shouldn't visit him. He sets a LW of "Escort N1:3". 15 (Hellstorm, 1-S2-1-7953944) threatens to rape another player.
N1: 11 says he's gonna do "A smart move, or dumb one, be ready" at night, and blocks 12. He changes his LW to claim 6 (DRAGON HEAD) is RB immune, which is true by settings.
D2: 4 (AUDITOR) is dead. 11 claims 6 is RB Immune as a lead. 12 reveals as MARSHALL for a quad execution. 11, 6, and 13 are executed before time runs out. They flip LIASION, DRAGON HEAD, and DIVA, clean-sweeping the TRIAD on D2.
N2: Night.
D3: Nobody is dead, but the ARSONIST dayburns at start to kill 12 (MARSHALL). 10 (ARSONIST) is removed.
N3: Night.
D4: 2 (AUDITOR) is dead. Town wins the game.

Was the game result altered?
A D2 triad clean sweep? Yes, it basically handed town a win.

Additional offenses or players found in replay?

Hellstorm, 1-S2-1-7953944

Recommended Actions:

Hellstorm: 2x WL
Vincukas: 2x WL

Additional Notes:
I question if the intent was truly present to throw the game. That being said, throwing a team player under the bus to try and get town cred without planning it ahead with them is scummy, and could use a bit of correction.

Thank you for the report!

[Arrow]

1-S2-1-9757360 2x WL
1-S2-1-7953944 2x WL

[Vincukas]

I am the Vincukas of the report and I wanted to appeal/justify my misdeed.

"Was the game result altered?
A D2 triad clean sweep? Yes, it basically handed town a win."
To be fair, the D2 triad sweep had no link with my deed, since marshall had no reason to lynch me at all.


Why did I do that? I thought that indicting 6 as rb immune would be harmless and would even give a boost to triad. Considering that I rbed 12, I expected him to claim escort and claim that he rbed 12 or town roleblock immune. And as such, increasing trust in case of one of us dies. I never expected 6 to be lynched d2.


How did I screw up ? My main misdeed was to not explain properly my plan during night to 6 and in a way, throwing him under the bus.

I was careless. I did not attempt to throw.
I will be clearer to my allies from now on.

[Arrow]

Your request for an audit is noted and another staff member will review this report in the near future.

[Auwt]

As Arrow's summary sums up the game in its whole, I am not going to re-establish a new game summary.

We both know, Vincukas, that your intent in this game was not to Intentionally kill your team mate and ruin the game.
However looking at your DH's (Listener) perspective, it can be considered as so, since you did not warn him beforehand.

Turned out, that both your side and the game in general was impacted by your play in a strong negative way.
That being said, it could have also played out for a potential victory in another game.
This is why, also after internal discussion, we've decided to change the "committed crime" to Griefing instead of Gamethrowing.

Your post also shows that you've understood as to why you have been punished, and while this is an important and good step forward, I will not recommend any change in the punishment at all.

The action of Griefing definitely took place and therefore you should be able to prove yourself for the duration of this watchlist.

Also, just as a reminder, if one happens to think "My next move is going to be idiot/dumb", then doing it will rarely give good vibes.