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    on bank file issue, I might request point request someday

    Hi, I'm killy.

    Thanks a lot to all -Mafia- players, the staff , and the developers.
    Most part of the post might be a bug report on a bank file issue, addressed to Frinckles.
    it would be a point restoration request. or maybe not.


    (I) Some mafia players realized this problem in late April.
    There's a bank file issue/ bug.

    Spoiler : 'YOUR BANK IS INVALID!' :


    One day, suddenly, it will happen to you.
    The mafia system says:
    "WARNING - YOUR BANK IS INVALID! NO STATS WILL BE SAVED! delete "MBank13.SC2Bank"!.
    And it announces the disgracing and unpleasant message to everyone:
    "##### is hacker! Please report #####!"

    This happened to BrockSamson, it happened to ChannelMiner, it happened to Max, it happened to Law, it happened to BattleSause. It happened to me. And it happened to every player who plays -Mafia- a lot.

    Some of us deleted bank files and gave up points /stats/ setups.
    Some of us roll-backed our bank files from old banks.


    (II)
    Spoiler : What happened? :

    (1) I took a backup of my bank file(*) just one day ago

    (2) After a few games playing, I encountered the bank reset issue.
    The system asked to delete my bank file. So I rolled back to (*)'s old bank file

    (3) the bank issue happened again. (I rolled back the bank again and again)

    I realized "this bank issue is happening every 5 games (after rolling back the bank file to (*))"


    (III)
    Spoiler : What is happening? :

    A bank glitch happened in the next game after the one I hadn't stayed till the end. (hey, I d rolled lover, and the role rarely survives)
    Usually, your bank saves your stats at the end of the game (*2).
    Something is strange. So I checked what was happening to my bank file during the games.

    following "3 bytes file size increasing" happens at the setup phase. not at the end of the game part which saves your stats(*2)

    (I was skipping (*2) the "saving stats" phase for the reproducibility test. but I m not throwing a single game for the test)



    *Fact*
    (A) the -Mafia- system gets your bank file size increased by 3 bytes in every game at the initial phase in which the host load setups.

    (B) my back-uped bank(*) has 9083 bytes (9KB).
    the bank file size gets increased by 3 bytes in every game (at the setup phase).


    *record:
    (1) 9083 bytes {roll-backed (*) bank file} -> (2) 9086 bytes -> (3) 9089 bytes -> (4) 9092 bytes -> (5)9095 bytes

    I can play games with (1)~(4) banks without a problem.
    When I play with (5)'s bank file (9095 bytes), there s a warning "your bank is invalid" and there is a big announcement "killy is a hacker"

    I repeated da (1)~(5) sequence more than three times.
    There was reproducibility.


    *guess*
    When the sum of these "3 bytes" reaches a number of sizes, or when the total bank file size exceeds a limit (9095 bytes),
    might the -Mafia- system treat the bank files as invalid to announce "##### is a hacker"?
    (maybe the system did't expect the bank file gets 9KB sized?)

    Channel Miner: "My glitched bank file had 9KB size. I got point restored by Arrow. and the current bank file size is 4KB."
    It matches my condition. "9KB" is the same as mine. and It would support my hypothesis.


    (IV)
    Spoiler : I believe the same bug will happen to everyone. :

    Drizzt and I have rolled back our bank files with old backups.
    But I believe the same issue is going to happen to us when our bank files reach 9095 bytes again.
    I believe the same bug will happen to everyone. Your bank file is growing by 3 bytes in every game.
    (please check your bank file size changing during games for more samples)

    ("I haven't encountered the bug yet" --- It's just "you haven't played the game a lot yet")

    Also, we are getting called "You are hackers! Please report!"
    Is it funny to the staff? At least, not so fun for us.

    Did you hack? --- No. We didn't.
    We are getting punished for playing -Mafia- a lot.

    I believe we can count on the wizard Flickles that he is going to solve this bank issue someday.
    Just in case devs have to give the bank glitch up as hopeless, I might request a point restoration.
    (ChannelMiner's method would be the best. Refreshing your bank file)
    in that time, let me count on you.

    Thank you

  2. ISO #2

    Re: on bank file issue, I might request point request someday

    Wow this is a great post.

    @Frinckles i had previously mentioned i noticed that every game, the "save name" lines in the banks were incrementing by a single whitespace. I didn't think this could be the cause of the hacked bank issue, but based on killy's post it seems like this is 100% the source. I'll send you more details in pm

    THANKS KILLY i think you solved it.
    Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?

  3. ISO #3

  4. ISO #4

    Re: on bank file issue, I might request point request someday

    Just remember where the apocalypse started. Who patient zero was. It will be my anti-bodies which provide the cure and save the mafia race.

    Quote Originally Posted by Killy View Post
    Hi, I'm killy.

    Thanks a lot to all -Mafia- players, the staff , and the developers.
    Most part of the post might be a bug report on a bank file issue, addressed to Frinckles.
    it would be a point restoration request. or maybe not.


    (I) Some mafia players realized this problem in late April.
    There's a bank file issue/ bug.

    Spoiler : 'YOUR BANK IS INVALID!' :


    One day, suddenly, it will happen to you.
    The mafia system says:
    "WARNING - YOUR BANK IS INVALID! NO STATS WILL BE SAVED! delete "MBank13.SC2Bank"!.
    And it announces the disgracing and unpleasant message to everyone:
    "##### is hacker! Please report #####!"

    This happened to BrockSamson, it happened to ChannelMiner, it happened to Max, it happened to Law, it happened to BattleSause. It happened to me. And it happened to every player who plays -Mafia- a lot.

    Some of us deleted bank files and gave up points /stats/ setups.
    Some of us roll-backed our bank files from old banks.


    (II)
    Spoiler : What happened? :

    (1) I took a backup of my bank file(*) just one day ago

    (2) After a few games playing, I encountered the bank reset issue.
    The system asked to delete my bank file. So I rolled back to (*)'s old bank file

    (3) the bank issue happened again. (I rolled back the bank again and again)

    I realized "this bank issue is happening every 5 games (after rolling back the bank file to (*))"


    (III)
    Spoiler : What is happening? :

    A bank glitch happened in the next game after the one I hadn't stayed till the end. (hey, I d rolled lover, and the role rarely survives)
    Usually, your bank saves your stats at the end of the game (*2).
    Something is strange. So I checked what was happening to my bank file during the games.

    following "3 bytes file size increasing" happens at the setup phase. not at the end of the game part which saves your stats(*2)

    (I was skipping (*2) the "saving stats" phase for the reproducibility test. but I m not throwing a single game for the test)



    *Fact*
    (A) the -Mafia- system gets your bank file size increased by 3 bytes in every game at the initial phase in which the host load setups.

    (B) my back-uped bank(*) has 9083 bytes (9KB).
    the bank file size gets increased by 3 bytes in every game (at the setup phase).


    *record:
    (1) 9083 bytes {roll-backed (*) bank file} -> (2) 9086 bytes -> (3) 9089 bytes -> (4) 9092 bytes -> (5)9095 bytes

    I can play games with (1)~(4) banks without a problem.
    When I play with (5)'s bank file (9095 bytes), there s a warning "your bank is invalid" and there is a big announcement "killy is a hacker"

    I repeated da (1)~(5) sequence more than three times.
    There was reproducibility.


    *guess*
    When the sum of these "3 bytes" reaches a number of sizes, or when the total bank file size exceeds a limit (9095 bytes),
    might the -Mafia- system treat the bank files as invalid to announce "##### is a hacker"?
    (maybe the system did't expect the bank file gets 9KB sized?)



    It matches my condition. "9KB" is the same as mine. and It would support my hypothesis.


    (IV)
    Spoiler : I believe the same bug will happen to everyone. :

    Drizzt and I have rolled back our bank files with old backups.
    But I believe the same issue is going to happen to us when our bank files reach 9095 bytes again.
    I believe the same bug will happen to everyone. Your bank file is growing by 3 bytes in every game.
    (please check your bank file size changing during games for more samples)

    ("I haven't encountered the bug yet" --- It's just "you haven't played the game a lot yet")

    Also, we are getting called "You are hackers! Please report!"
    Is it funny to the staff? At least, not so fun for us.

    Did you hack? --- No. We didn't.
    We are getting punished for playing -Mafia- a lot.

    I believe we can count on the wizard Flickles that he is going to solve this bank issue someday.
    Just in case devs have to give the bank glitch up as hopeless, I might request a point restoration.
    (ChannelMiner's method would be the best. Refreshing your bank file)
    in that time, let me count on you.

    Thank you

  5. ISO #5

    Re: on bank file issue, I might request point request someday

    Happened to me again. This theory is likely the legitimate source of this problem. Once I'm 1-2 roles away from all role wins, or soon after I get all role wins, it corrupts.

    What affects file size of the bank file the most? Achievements/role wins? Roulette?
    Last edited by mafiamafia; June 19th, 2022 at 11:17 PM.

  6. ISO #6

    Re: on bank file issue, I might request point request someday

    I have found a solution and fixed my old backup bank that went south.

    There is an answer in this thread already.
    Another vital component was in February disc.ch log.
    . (I feel Mafia2.0 has a problem with the way of announcements)


    Our wizard Frinckles has announced that "There will be fixes for the save slot bug by Friday" (but which Friday? )
    So I'd like not to steal his accomplishment.
    (Also I believe a fixed patch is worth more than any coping approach)

    In case you can't wait for the patch, the ChannelMiner method would be an iq 500 solution.

  7. ISO #7

    Re: on bank file issue, I might request point request someday

    How to fix the glitch on your bank file.


    (I)
    Spoiler : two points before the specific solution. :


    (1)
    the most valuable post in this thread is this line :

    Quote Originally Posted by DJarJar View Post
    the "save name" lines in the banks were incrementing by a single whitespace
    What is happening?
    In every game, your bank file is getting grown. And your "savename(1~3)" values get filled with a long column of whitespaces.
    That causes the bank file issue.

    How can I avoid the problem?
    All you need is to overwrite "save names"


    (2)
    You can name your saves with "-savename#" command.

    Frinckles : "Type -savename1 (name)"
    You could only access -savename1 at the point of 5th June,
    It unlocked -savename2 &3 for me when I checked on 17th June (Friday?).

    I have no idea how many points you need to reach those commands.
    But I believe the players who encountered the bank glitch would have more than 50k points for those commands.
    (according to Frinckles, 20k points for save slot 1)


    (I asked some mods/admins "How can I overwrite save names?"
    But I didn't get an answer.
    I had to look up all announcements in the January log.
    Oh yes. I remember Frinckles suggested to me "Why don't you name your save?"
    But I didn't know how.

    I feel Mafia 2.0 has a problem with the way of announcements.)


    Additional note. Your bank file still grows after the override.
    so it's a coping approach. We are looking forward to a fixed patch.


    (II) the coping approach.

    Overwrite your save names with typing "-savename1 (name)"

    Same with -savename2, -savename3 (name)


    For example:
    Type "-savename1 Caroler 8331", and your save1 name will be set to "Caroler 8331"
    I'm using "a blue blank, a white blank, and a red blank" with <html> tag for each save. (Tricolore!)

    Thank you

    @Hotrian

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