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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    I'm not exaggerating when I legit just got that paper submitted 3 minutes ago, right before the deadline.

    Citations, even if I have the links ready, took like an hour to make and ensure they were in the paper ;-;
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Why are we lynching people that shot mafia?
    "Why are we trying to lynch people who haven't shot at anyone over people who have most certainly shot town and without warning?"
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Pretty sure MM could end it here by shooting MartinGG99/ceko then we lynch the other one.
    Technically you're correct there regardless of alignment

    nothing "pretty sure" about that
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Bleh, I've waited long enough, nothing terribly enlightening has been said. YEEHAW
    -daykill ChannelMiner @Stealthbomber16
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    actually actually hey hey hey hey
    -daykill ChannelMiner


    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Aw, it's not activated.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Day 7

    ChannelMiner was shot by Marshmallow Marshall. ChannelMiner was a Citizen
    3 players alive, 2 votes to hammer.

    Player Name Role Day Killed
    Lag Citizen Day 1
    @Marshmallow Marshall N/A Alive
    oliverz144 Goon Day 4
    @MartinGG99 N/A Alive
    Mizery Citizen Day 6
    DoctorZeus Goon Day 5
    BradLand Citizen Day 2
    ChannelMiner Citizen Day 6
    Oberon Citizen Day 3
    @theoneceko N/A Alive

    Last edited by Stealthbomber16; April 12th, 2022 at 07:12 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    -vote theoneceko
    Also, even if we want to assume Ceko is trolling, having him be the target of a train that will work in a relatively standard manner and that he cannot just cancel out by shooting (since he has already shot) is optimal.
    What? I don't think one can be much more anti-town than Ceko at the beginning of D1.
    I have the same feeling and kinda feel like you're town, and potentially even right...

    That would make you one hell of a bad town player this game, though. And... that kind of play should simply not slide. Uuuuugh.
    At this point, I don't feel the "gut townread" on Ceko anymore, it decayed due to lack of meaningful participation and even more so due to the lack of spew on Ceko.
    -vote theoneceko

    What do you have to say in your defense, Ceko? Who's scum if not you?
    Yeah this is town Ceko, scum Ceko never goes out like this to prevent his scummate from getting townread, it makes zero sense. However, scum!Mizery could very well have found a "reason" to townread a scummate here.

    -vote Mizery
    I am not voting or shoot ceko here, he's my top townread, ironically enough. I just don't see him being scum despite the spew. See yesterday's posts on his interactions. Besides, if ceko is scum, this is a highly ridiculous game lol, and it will mean we have to actively enforce a punitive meta towards trolly/anti-town actions.
    @ ceko, the safest play is never for me to shoot anyone lol, the shot is a guaranteed win. If you weren't spewed town, I would say this is scummy... but you are, so I guess you're just wrong lol.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    @MartinGG99 get ur vote off me in the 1% chance u are not scum

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    @Marshmallow Marshall
    Shoot Channel. If Channel for some reason flips green, I'm always voting ceko. I don't care about voting you in that situation; because if you are wolf then Ceko is definitely town who really did troll on d1 and for that he must die by my salt.
    if u are town try to win the game, WHY r u lynching a "troll" (THIS IS IN QUOTES) in f3?!?!

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    @MartinGG99

    EVERY town called u out

    brad iso almost entirely focuses on u. U SHOT HIM
    chanel shot oli then voted u before mm shot
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Idk if its Martin or Ceko but I like Ceko more so....

    -vote MartinGG99


    I don't really trust any of you out of the 3 but whatever.
    miz shot zeus then voted u before u hammered
    oberon voted u
    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    More thoughts:

    I thought of pressuring Martin because his reads didn't really make sense to me (how can it occur to both alignments to "hammer" early? when I said it occurred to me, it only occurred to me to day kill ceko at the very start of d2. I most definitely did not want to day kill on d1).

    I feel like his reads are somewhat made up IMO. He also seems to be changing his explanation every post. I do not like that lol

    Like who thinks about the utility of an action before deciding they will be doing it?
    Town certainly doesn't go into these detailed analyses of what the optimal play is, with utility/NAI stuff and whatnot lol. It feels like he's trying to prove ceko is Mafia, which is absurd because you cannot prove anything in this game, and it feels "scummy".
    -vote MartinGG99
    ((i will admit he said i should die in lylo. but if i get fuckin mislynched for 1st time as TOWN cuz "game theory", mm is either scum or THE worst town in existence. ive never seen a MAFIA slip by for so long))

    MM voted u
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    -vote MartinGG99


    No. You're more rational than that. You were the one talking about certainty and all earlier. You don't shoot people "for the lols" as town. Ceko? Maaaaybe, even though it sucks. You? Absolutely not. You know what I think? You were afraid I would shoot you (or that you would get quickly lynched) because I said I was beginning to reconsider Ceko, and you didn't want your team to lose a shot.

    Hell, we even DISCUSSED the fact we shouldn't shoot people. If Ceko's behavior was highly questionable, yours is just unforgivable lol.

    Again, since it needs to be said:
    TWICE
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    This is soooo sooooo soooooooo much rationalization lmao. You shot Brad and then thought about reasons to justify your murder. Plus, those reasons are terribly... weak. Like, even if I try to have town!Martin's perspective while holding the assumptions based on meta as true (which makes a lot of pro-Martin assumptions), I don't see how this could possibly justify a murder. Which brings me back to what I think I said yesterday: Martin shot because he was afraid he would get lynched, which would have meant his scum team would have lost a shot on a townie. See #277 as well: it still holds.

    -vote MartinGG99


    Also, ANYONE SHOOTING ANYONE IS SCUM CLAIMING AND WILL BE SHOT BY ME TOMORROW. If I'm the one who's shot, I dare hope townies will shoot the killer too lol. Today, we are LYNCHING someone. It's not like we have no choices among those who have already shot: we have Ceko, Zeus and Martin. If all three of them are town, we absolutely deserve to lose anyway lol. I think ceko is probably town after all (#257).
    I CALLED U OUT i wanted u SHOT

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    ok i am SHOUTING too much

    ~~

    mm can be scum, he tunneled miz right after she shot ZEUS. then he shot chanel. MM could be using mart to lynch me, BUT

    his townread of mart does not look like pocket at all????
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    To have a chance to survive. Although... this is probably the only point in your defense I could see as half-valid, since it might not be optimal to try to survive at the cost of shooting an influent townie in such circumstances. Unless the issue is that I'm wrong. Or that you didn't think much because of panic. Eeeeeeeeeeeh. I'll let others weigh in on this
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Why are you so convincing ;-; I will let others who are not afraid of being confbiased into thinking their own case is accurate comment on this, but I don't feel so sure about it anymore, because it looks like the only way you're scum is if you just made a mistake. That is possible, but that also isn't making for a terribly strong case lol.

    Yummy salad
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Hmm. Let the record show that I am not 100 % convinced Martin is town, but he has a point
    -unvote
    what?? this is a pocket attempt??
    SCUM would attack mart aggressively for this.. unless mm was afraid of being shot for MISlynching mart
    mm literally asked me "WHAT IF I WAS POCKETING MART" tho, like how does this help SCUM!mm?
    ~~~
    he was FIRST to tunnel miz, which is extremely anti-town
    he SHOT chanel, which is also extremely anti-town

    however, mm is the only guy besides me who showed anger
    (oberon and chan were mad too, but theyre both DEAD)

    mm has been SO anti-town. scum!MM tries to rationalize, but MM has been suiciding and that makes me actually townread him
    ~~~
    mart SHOT brad
    mart HAMMERED miz after my accidental vote on her, which is extremely anti-town
    mart TOLD mm to shoot chan

    mart has been townreading T00 MUCH, and never creating a REAL push of his own
    ~~~
    actually mm's actions look worse, but tonewise mart has sounded like wolf all along. literally from the start TOWN called his posts scummy. i already explained why i think mm's actions r somewhat justified, mart has much more scum equity

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    if u are town try to win the game, WHY r u lynching a "troll" (THIS IS IN QUOTES) in f3?!?!
    "I thought this was not a serious game

    Lag was mafia, the host just made a typo

    u guys know i am joking"


    Why am I supposedly going against my wincon? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ idk you tell me
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Rn I feel you are mafia.

    I also feel that if you aren't mafia then you haven't played the whole game with genuine regard as to what makes social deception games to be social deception games.

    Both of which I feel are vote-worthy

    Additionally: If I even for a moment thought MM was mafia, voted him, and was wrong on you being somehow town then this would be the worst way to leave the game at. It would just be a terrible taste for me.

    Voting you always gives me the best possible (personal) outcome here

    The only time I would not do that is if I had absolute confirmation that you're town. I mean mech confirm town. Because, then, me yeeting you makes me just as worse of a player you were in shooting lag at the start of the game.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Hi, I'm not mafia, so I am not hammering immediatly! Anyone placing a vote on me is scum claiming.

    Now that this is out of the way, time to read.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Like not only because if we're both town then town has been absolutely crap

    but also mafia somehow managed to frick up just enough to land in f3 with us
    Well, Ceko's shot led the way. Honestly, I am very, very tempted to just lynch Ceko for policy because scum should never be allowed to get away with literal murder in public. And you... well, ugh. You're not even particularly towny. It's just that it feels weird to say you were ready to bet Ceko would refuse to hammer Channel (else, I would have ended up here with a shot and insta-win, resulting in your loss if you're scum).
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    ok i am SHOUTING too much

    ~~

    mm can be scum, he tunneled miz right after she shot ZEUS. then he shot chanel. MM could be using mart to lynch me, BUT

    his townread of mart does not look like pocket at all????



    what?? this is a pocket attempt??
    SCUM would attack mart aggressively for this.. unless mm was afraid of being shot for MISlynching mart
    mm literally asked me "WHAT IF I WAS POCKETING MART" tho, like how does this help SCUM!mm?
    ~~~
    he was FIRST to tunnel miz, which is extremely anti-town
    he SHOT chanel, which is also extremely anti-town

    however, mm is the only guy besides me who showed anger
    (oberon and chan were mad too, but theyre both DEAD)

    mm has been SO anti-town. scum!MM tries to rationalize, but MM has been suiciding and that makes me actually townread him
    ~~~
    mart SHOT brad
    mart HAMMERED miz after my accidental vote on her, which is extremely anti-town
    mart TOLD mm to shoot chan

    mart has been townreading T00 MUCH, and never creating a REAL push of his own
    ~~~
    actually mm's actions look worse, but tonewise mart has sounded like wolf all along. literally from the start TOWN called his posts scummy. i already explained why i think mm's actions r somewhat justified, mart has much more scum equity
    I have been ANTI-TOWN? You're the one saying this?



    Lol.

    -vote theoneceko


    If this is wrong, I have many people other than myself to blame, so it's alright ;)
    Also sorry ChannelMiner, but you completely failed to answer questions or to... well, participate, so it was a little hard to decide.
    If Martin is scum, he defended himself well and pocketed me successfully enough. Letting Ceko get away with his game would just be criminal at this point.

    This game was fun, but a shitshow in which I was mostly wrong GG
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    TOWN VICTORY!

    Lag, Marshmallow Marshall, MartinGG99, Mizery, BradLand, ChannelMiner, and Oberon have won!

    99 votes to hammer. Voting for MVP has begun!

    Discussion is open, stay tuned for postgame host analysis.
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    There will be no host MVP awarded this game because none of you motherfuckers deserve it
    Daykills enabled.
    Last edited by DJarJar; April 13th, 2022 at 12:35 PM. Reason: enabledaykills
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by Lag View Post
    Alternatively, here's why I deserve MVP,
    I was the only player that did all of:
    -Won the game
    -Didn't shoot a fellow town
    -Didn't get shot by a fellow town
    -Didn't flame excessively

    #LagForMVP
    lol, i real talk independently of your post here decided to vote you.
    reasoning: you are the only one who didnt advance the scum wincon
    Praise the Lord!

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    Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless

    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    woohoo i can type! @aamirus copy the threadclosing code line from the hammer bot and add it intented to the daykill code, that should fix it easily
    I think they quite simply unlocked the thread after using it
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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