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martin instantly omgusing me feels like i accidentaly poked the better (or worse) half here.
luck is with the idiots.
i wont shoot.
scum may endgame at some point, i need to prevent that. you cant shoot me, hehe.
im challenging you, aint i? will scummates shoot me, and out? i doubt. you fired already, you are lower use than ppl who havent shot yet.
or did all of your scummates shot aswell?
you dont last long?
scum doesnt last long?
Praise the Lord!
Damn im smart
Hmm, so he was town.
that must be also why you don't check discord that often in previous games smh
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I still wanna lynch ceko but it's probably a waste to do so since he doesn't have a gun anymore. But neither does Martin.. whatever
-vote MARTINGG99
oh, yar old miner, we vanishin, aint?
state your thougths on the game, please. only that way, by interacting with you, we can find out more about you
Praise the Lord!
hmm yeah i have a smartphone but i cant bring it everywhere, and even when i use it the internet is sometimes just not strong enough for discord.
whatever. this is oog. lets keep on gaming.
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I'm not sure how i can deduce who the goons are, I don't think ceko and martin are, i think they were just dumb townies.
Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.
I guess lynching them would reveal their roles, plus not like they can help fight against the goons now.
Although my suspicion is that non of the goons will shoot until they are sure they'll win, they're probably praying that they don't get randomed.
channel, we need to lynch scum, not educate town.
also, you call out and vote martin for shooting brad, yet you wanted to do the same
there is no rush to answer those questions right away, we got all time on earth... (unless you aim and shoot, lol).
oh, and, is that your very first game of mafia?
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@BradLand you died twice
welp, you just made up my mind:
hmm, actually nevermind.
I was really considering shooting you but id rather not waste a bullet on you.
....... okay
Well, I must say it will be a lesson to him: don't be an ass and insult people for no reason, especially when they have a loaded gun xD. That being said, it was quite obviously not pro-town. I'll have to see what Zeus brings to the table other than that, but he gains scumpoints here.
This is soooo sooooo soooooooo much rationalization lmao. You shot Brad and then thought about reasons to justify your murder. Plus, those reasons are terribly... weak. Like, even if I try to have town!Martin's perspective while holding the assumptions based on meta as true (which makes a lot of pro-Martin assumptions), I don't see how this could possibly justify a murder. Which brings me back to what I think I said yesterday: Martin shot because he was afraid he would get lynched, which would have meant his scum team would have lost a shot on a townie. See #277 as well: it still holds.
-vote MartinGG99
Also, ANYONE SHOOTING ANYONE IS SCUM CLAIMING AND WILL BE SHOT BY ME TOMORROW. If I'm the one who's shot, I dare hope townies will shoot the killer too lol. Today, we are LYNCHING someone. It's not like we have no choices among those who have already shot: we have Ceko, Zeus and Martin. If all three of them are town, we absolutely deserve to lose anyway lol. I think ceko is probably town after all (#257).
I agree with your vote, but why are you placing it?
And even more importantly... why are you calling them "just dumb townies"? Are you voting people you townread? I require explanations.
How so? This is far from being self-evident, much like your townness.
Please... do not shoot people if you are town... we have a bunch of scummy people who have used their shot and thus cannot shoot anymore. We should lynch among them (preferably Martin imo), not shoot randoms, and not even shoot them when we don't need to, since that would be a waste of a town shot. Remember town shots are precious if we get outnumbered eventually.
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Distancing and/or anti-spew*
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Also: Regardless of my own meta, why would I be so inclined to self-pres shoot on the basis that "the mafia would lose a valuable shot" if Ceko is town in your view? If he's town, then he granted the mafia effectively two shots: One from ceko's use, and one from lag being killed and therefore denied
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Furthermore, if I were so concerned in saving my shot, I wouldn't have suspected or considered shooting Brad. FMPOV, Brad was only going to shoot me unless he was urged to oooooor I had pushed him. I could've saved that shot till a point where a lynch was likely (I only had 1 vote on me at that time).
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But me being a townie, I genuinely suspected brad and so "not poking the bear" was out of the question
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Additionally: Why does !mafia Martin, who is supposedly trying to make the most of the mafia shots, shoot brad?
Why not Oberon, you, or anyone else?
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There's the fact I kinda mindmeld on Ceko looking at Oliver sideways and the fact I feel like he's town (gut), while you're Mr. Word Salad (and I asked for SALAD, not SOUP! ). And then there's the fact you're 10x more rational than Ceko is. There's also the fact you were threatened before shooting, whereas Ceko was threatened after shooting (and directly because of it). His play makes zero sense as any alignment, but at least has the explanation of "I thought it was a troll game", whereas yours really doesn't have anything going for it, especially considering the reasons to shoot Brad, which you gave MUCH after you shot him, are weak.
Also, you liking distancing doesn't mean you wouldn't shoot town before dying as scum. That is irrelevant.
To have a chance to survive. Although... this is probably the only point in your defense I could see as half-valid, since it might not be optimal to try to survive at the cost of shooting an influent townie in such circumstances. Unless the issue is that I'm wrong. Or that you didn't think much because of panic. Eeeeeeeeeeeh. I'll let others weigh in on this
It does have things going for it. I didn't have much alternative action when it comes to dealing with Brad if he's the kind of player that would shoot if you pressured him. As !Mafia Martin, I could've simply TR'ed him and tried to pocket him, not considered pushing or suspecting him. Or maybe just avoid him entirely for the time being. Confrontation would be the last thing !Mafia Martin would want here unless I was certain I was going to be flipped...in which case that goes back to the point of why shoot brad over anyone else.
Additionally, I didn't have any reason to believe Brad was town based on how he was handling (but not interacting with) my slot especially when he didn't have a vote on me at all this whole game. If anything, his handling of me resembled more of that a wolf who would be laid-back in agreeing with town but not necessarily pushing nor investigating.
It is relevant because distancing/anti-spew would necessarily have to happen before and after I shoot
Doing it before I shoot is a lot more optimal in terms of anti-spewing as generally anti-spewing after that is much more obvious
That said, my shot was basically in the first 12 hours of the game, aside from Lag's death. There hardly was any work done to ensure the well-being of my mafia team at a time where there was no reason to suspect I would be shot any time soon except for random shots.
Additionally, as you have so very well pointed out yourself, I tend to be a very rational player and would've been aware that you would dislike me for shooting. It's not something I would forget. Why don't I just hold off on shooting, or just shoot someone who has more value to the town (or town-core) when I'm close to being yeeted?
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Fact is I did suspect him (as town) or I thought it best to shoot him and try to rationalize it (as mafia)
That fact isn't debatable.
It's harder to disprove that I couldn't have genuinely suspect him (i.e. harder to disprove me as town) than it is to prove that I, as mafia, thought my most important act at that stage of the game was to shoot brad and rationalize it
Alternatively you could say I played like shit as mafia....but to play like that is really a stretch and hardly something I could see my hypothetical mafia teammates agreeing to within 12 hours of a day phase (My teammates would be consulted since it was an avoidable shot).
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I think I wrote my 3rd set of sentences wrong and managed to break my brain.
Let me re-word it
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Actually no it's correct.
It just has tricky double-negatives, which I could've just not done the double-negative but I feel double negatives are good for conveying...................[insert ensuing word salad with a side of word soup that nobody but Martin will ever understand coherently]
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there
without the double negative (Technically triple-negative, but it was just two double-negatives created with just three negatives because one negative was applying to two other negatives in the form of an adjective connected to an action because something something the insanity of English)
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Why are you so convincing ;-; I will let others who are not afraid of being confbiased into thinking their own case is accurate comment on this, but I don't feel so sure about it anymore, because it looks like the only way you're scum is if you just made a mistake. That is possible, but that also isn't making for a terribly strong case lol.
Yummy salad
Well, considering we have an infinite amount of time, perhaps we could remove the vote on me for now?
I mean, the only other person voting me is @ChannelMiner and I don't quite have faith in his ability to argue the case against me even if he believed in it just because of inexperience
Also if we're both town then we're just waiting on the mafia to show up and hammer me and then quick-day-kill the game to hell and back
Well then perhaps only proper conclusion from this then is that I most certainly played like shit this game regardless of alignment
maybe brad will be less mad at me now for acknowledging this
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This would be much funner if people would actually participate outside of Martin and myself. Something that may have helped with this is, y'know, not SHOOTING ALL OTHER PEOPLE WHO SPEAK...
-daykill Oliverz144
@Stealthbomber16
Day 5
oliverz144 was shot by ChannelMiner. oliverz144 was a Goon.
6 players alive, 4 votes to hammer.
Player Name Role Day Killed LagCitizen Day 1 @Marshmallow Marshall N/A Alive oliverz144Goon Day 4 @MartinGG99 N/A Alive @Mizery N/A Alive @DoctorZeus N/A Alive BradLandCitizen Day 2 @ChannelMiner N/A Alive OberonCitizen Day 3 @theoneceko N/A Alive
Now the real question
Did Oli have anything to do with Lag being rando shot
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Also
4 town
2 mafia
people who have shots:
MM
Mizery
Mafia have at most 2 shots, but could have one or less.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
Especially that "there is no rush to answer those questions right away" part
you would think he could've just said that in the mafia chat
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Oli really only hating on Ceko + Mizery makes me want to confbias a lot tbh
everything else in the ISO seems like random-ish chatter wrt everyone who is alive at the current stage of the game
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