S-FM 340: Election Day 2.0

[Stealthbomber16]

Why are you pocketing PQ this game Lag

-vote Lag

We both know PQ is literally that easy to pocket. We discussed this. Despite his claims otherwise you’re one of his townreads right now because of what you’ve said.

Why did you do that? You’re purposefully doing the exact opposite of what you did in your last mutual game to make him townread you. That’s scummy as hell.

[Stealthbomber16]

PQ is going to vote me within the next 24hr. It is because I have my vote on you.

[Stealthbomber16]

This is some ballsy openwolfing even for you Lag

[BradLand]

Couple of things:

1. No idea the setup or whatever I just know what I am and I'm mostly paying attention to reads and voting out mafia/illuminati.

2. Someone was asking but I'm American and I'm eastern time (It is 1 AM as I'm posting this)

Things I was gaining when reading through.

Leaning Pqrn town for basically what Lag was saying in terms of having a plan but allowing the holes to be there for someone to point out as a reaction test.
Also questioning things like Ceko's "PQ and Lag not W/W" and suggesting things like possible bussing...from himself. Not sure a wolf goes that far into just blatantly saying what's going on.
Voted just about everyone that has stepped into the game, again putting attention on himself that a wolf wouldn't want.


Wrath is a mixed bag because it looked like they were blatantly just sitting there thread camping after showing up, and instantly reacting to a vote with "YAY A VOTER" is sort of a towny arrogance to it that I don't think mafia would have the audacity of doing because they know how awful it would look.
However a post a little bit after that was the "I have responsibilities, you don't apparently" which felt like a wolf just using an insult to demoralize a player and screw with their head.
Can't decide what to lean Wrath but there's plenty of time.

[BradLand]

@theoneceko

Why did you self vote after Pqrn voted you?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Hello, this is a very quick pop-in, no I have not read the thread, yes I am just commenting on what I see, and I absolutely will have to read the setup again to understand what really should be done

Greetings, my fellow Americans. I have a genius idea: all Citizens of our glorious nation vote for 3rd party to prevent corruption the first 2 nights (this helps Orange wo/man but prevents the Illuiminati from receiving town-casted votes on their candidate). On day 3, we get the total tallies and discover whom the Illuminati is trying to install as the next president, and we vote the opposing left/right wing candidate after that. This does require that we identify and exterminate the orange wo/man. Also, here is to hoping that Illuminati do not read this message

This is interesting, again I'll have to read the setup because from what I remember this could just be giving the win to the neutral (and making us lose), but maybe there is a way around it? A major flaw I could already see is that not all townies would abide to the plan because that never happens and because there's always someone to disagree, so your results could be skewed.

PQ is town

Maybe, but you're not

-vote Lag

This doesn't feel right, not for you. If it were like... Frinckles entering the game like this, I'd say okay, but not you. Randomly townreading Mr. Paranoia-Pocket-PQ on post #12 for a theory post without explanations? Bleh.

And this is going to be all for now, but I will return and hopefully have a functional brain (unlike right now) and will provide better analysis

[Marshmallow Marshall]

@theoneceko

Why did you self vote after Pqrn voted you?

Just for the record, self-votes do not count here, so they do not have the "standard" meaning people give them on other sites (they are basically just trolly unvotes)

[BradLand]

Just for the record, self-votes do not count here, so they do not have the "standard" meaning people give them on other sites (they are basically just trolly unvotes)

Ah, didn't know that.

Is Ceko a normal here?

[Frinckles]

NO CONTEXT
NO ROLE
IM HERE
IM IN
IM OUT

[BradLand]

NO CONTEXT
NO ROLE
IM HERE
IM IN
IM OUT

[BradLand]

Why does none of the coding work on this site?

The video was John Cena saying "Fine speech."

Now laugh.

[WrathCyber]

Wrath, who do you want to vote for?

Also are you town, illuminati, or none of the above?

I'm going to go ahead and agree with @MarshmallowMarshall, this statement is also very off putting cuz ik Lag would always prefer to solve roles rather than outright ask. It's like akin to icebreaking into normalcy as Wolf.

[WrathCyber]

-vote Lag

MM is my town core based on that reading alone since he seems to have caught on in a different perspective.

[BradLand]

Okay, Wrath probably town.

[Stealthbomber16]

Good to see there is a number of players who see what I see.

[Stealthbomber16]

@theoneceko

Why did you self vote after Pqrn voted you?

Can’t self vote on this site. Probably was just a joke.

[BradLand]

Can’t self vote on this site. Probably was just a joke.

Okay since the last one left me on read I'll ask you.

Is Ceko a regular on here and would they know that?

[BradLand]

You're also going to leave me on read with that question...
Must be a touchy subject.

[Lumi]

I have a wagon, neat

[Lumi]

We both know PQ is literally that easy to pocket. We discussed this. Despite his claims otherwise you’re one of his townreads right now because of what you’ve said.

Why did you do that? You’re purposefully doing the exact opposite of what you did in your last mutual game to make him townread you. That’s scummy as hell.

Because i have a townread on PQ. The previous game I was literally executioner with PQ as one of my targets, and your grievance is that I'm not playing like that? Weird take, kind of shady.

[Lumi]

Couple of things:

1. No idea the setup or whatever I just know what I am and I'm mostly paying attention to reads and voting out mafia/illuminati.

2. Someone was asking but I'm American and I'm eastern time (It is 1 AM as I'm posting this)

Things I was gaining when reading through.

Leaning Pqrn town for basically what Lag was saying in terms of having a plan but allowing the holes to be there for someone to point out as a reaction test.
Also questioning things like Ceko's "PQ and Lag not W/W" and suggesting things like possible bussing...from himself. Not sure a wolf goes that far into just blatantly saying what's going on.
Voted just about everyone that has stepped into the game, again putting attention on himself that a wolf wouldn't want.


Wrath is a mixed bag because it looked like they were blatantly just sitting there thread camping after showing up, and instantly reacting to a vote with "YAY A VOTER" is sort of a towny arrogance to it that I don't think mafia would have the audacity of doing because they know how awful it would look.
However a post a little bit after that was the "I have responsibilities, you don't apparently" which felt like a wolf just using an insult to demoralize a player and screw with their head.
Can't decide what to lean Wrath but there's plenty of time.

Wrath is for most intents and purposes, still relatively green when it comes to FM

[BradLand]

Wrath is for most intents and purposes, still relatively green when it comes to FM

So what would you take that as alignment wise? I'm still pondering that.

[Lumi]

Bradland is probably town
PQ is town
Wrath is town lean
Ceko is scum lean
Banana is null
SB16 is scum lean
MM is scum lean
Dum is null
Frinckles is null

MM and Sb16 not teammates though, feel something off among them though, can get a better read after they post more

[BradLand]

Guess that answers my question.

[Lumi]

So what would you take that as alignment wise? I'm still pondering that.

I changed my mind, wrath is scum lean

[BradLand]

I changed my mind, wrath is scum lean

Was it something I said? ��

[Lumi]

On one hand, Wrath has been very weirdly fixated on irrelevant stuff which i think he thinks is actually relevant, which is a town tell for green players. But at the same time he has no conviction, no aggression, and only sheeps on to something after other people lead the way which is wolf indicative, but then also at the same time, he doesn't have a particularly confrontational personality, so it might be less wolf indicative

[Lumi]

SB16's point feels shadier the more I think about it, why is he critical of me playing differently from when I was scum? Im not convinced his thoughts are genuine

[Lumi]

MMs points feel less wolf though, considering how I've blindsided MM with my meta flexibility like three times now, I think it's natural for him to be a bit wary of me lol

[BradLand]

Looks like I'll just call Lag town then.

[BradLand]

Pqrn
Lag

I actually called Wrath town earlier when I scrolled up...idk.

I feel like Peko has a better chance at randing wolf but it's mainly 1 post that caught my eye.

[BradLand]

Pqrn
Lag

I actually called Wrath town earlier when I scrolled up...idk.

I feel like Peko has a better chance at randing wolf but it's mainly 1 post that caught my eye.

Ceko, not Peko...dumbass me.

[BradLand]

Ceko has his whole "fake self vote" schtick in reaction to Pqrn voting him.

What the heck?

Then he reacts to a Dum post saying "Wolfy pop-in" and just says this...

This post just irks me, because what was the point to this post?

Why did you go back and react to this post specifically?

[BradLand]

wolfy pop in

Sorry I should've added this but this was the post that Ceko reacted to that he says "what the hell?" towards.

[Lumi]

Also to answer your question, ceko used to be a regular, but this is his first game back in almost a year

[BradLand]

Also to answer your question, ceko used to be a regular, but this is his first game back in almost a year

Oh my god the forbidden answer!

Quick, Lag! They're going to come after you for saying that!

[BradLand]

Not sure what you should do...maybe complain about it...but that's just me...

[Lumi]

Oh my god the forbidden answer!

Quick, Lag! They're going to come after you for saying that!

Lol

Also where is @Mizery I was looking forward to playing together

[BradLand]

Lol

Also where is @Mizery I was looking forward to playing together

Same...one of the few people I read super accurately.
And her reads are accurate as hell as town so it's a massive plus if she's randed it.

[theoneceko]

Hi BradLand.

[BradLand]

Hi BradLand.

Hello Ceko, what makes you not mafia?

[BradLand]

Hello Ceko, what makes you not mafia?

Pretend I'm saying this gleefully, as I'm lifting you into the air by your throat with one hand.

[BradLand]

I guess he got flustered by the question...

[Auwt]

The setup is complex...
For real.

[Auwt]

From what I've read so far (start of page 2) it seems some guys are focusing on Lag, I don't particularly see what's the deal with it.

[Auwt]

PQ and Lag are not a team.

That's some hasted conclusion.
While I personally don't necessarly believe Lag to be that scummy looking, I would like you to elaborate a bit more.

[Auwt]

You do know that bussing is a thing, right? So how can you conclude that we are not on a scum team?

+1

[Auwt]

Picking a random choice between rep, dem, 3rd party, and no one (25% chance for each, maybe even 30% for no one/3rd party and 20% for the two main parties) are the best options

it minimizes your vulnerability to the night kill while also minimizing the risk of town getting snowed by a night 1 ballot box steal.

The big problem with town all voting for only the main two candidates is that if half the town votes for each party, then you have 4 votes on each of the main two parties (counting conspiracy theorist as town here since they're basically town)

Which when combined with a night 1 ballot box steal + 3 illuminati votes for the bad guy, you'll go into day 2 with a 7 to 0 vote lead on the bad guy. That's very bad, almost insurmountably bad.

By spreading town votes out among four choices rather than two, it greatly minimizes the risk of a scenario like that while also minimizing vulnerability to the factional kill.

Beyond that, we'll have to rely on power roles to find out who the scum want to elect + wolf hunt, and then go from there and hope we're not so far behind that it's too late

I think it's a 1/6 chance because a player can vote for Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, Gus Hall, John B. Anderson, God, or no one.

:^)

Maths are against the town.
That's what I've learned from my past games.

[Auwt]

As I do not have a lot of time, I will leave my vote here for now.
Ceko seems to be dubious, not really pushing, more passive compared to other games I've played with him.
Could it be this break, or the color of the rolecard he received, let's find out.

-vote theoneceko

[Mizery]

NO CONTEXT
NO ROLE
IM HERE
IM IN
IM OUT

that's what they called me in highschool