S-FM 337: Play at Your Own Risk

[FM-Gravity Falls]

not giving living players possible mana
hmu if you want to chat in thread tonight

You have party powers?

[FM-Gravity Falls]

I woulden't mind seeing the flip as well. I might enjoy some cheesecake sandwich later although there is no rush. Kinda feels like were mostly just hanging out right now

??

[FM-Wilder Wastelander]

thing is: mid knows my role
mid knows my secrets
mid knew that i had undestroyable proof for all stars that hes town

@FM-Mid-Atlantic can you say something about that?

[FM-Silent Night]

??

Im just really tired and fumbling about.

Bisected or Wilder might be dangerous at night if they are neutral. To open my POE past that draws in lots of questions.

You did have a valid point on Politico. Their clear is largly based on the claimed alignment cop actually being true and the neutral being able to be detected by it. As time goes on that will decrease confidence in their free pass status. Once looks good in most respects. I just don't have over info that helps clear him like I do for every other player.

[FM-Mid-Atlantic]

@FM-Mid-Atlantic can you say something about that?

I know his role/what he claims and one of his abilities/ he only told me one ability. it's not even that useful/a huge loss for town if the slot is removed.
Still doesn't answer how he ended up in one of the chats I was in, since All Stars didn't add him., and I don't see how that ties in with the role he claimed.
no clue what he's talking about when it comes to Allstars tho

[FM-Gravity Falls]

Im just really tired and fumbling about.

Bisected or Wilder might be dangerous at night if they are neutral. To open my POE past that draws in lots of questions.

You did have a valid point on Politico. Their clear is largly based on the claimed alignment cop actually being true and the neutral being able to be detected by it. As time goes on that will decrease confidence in their free pass status. Once looks good in most respects. I just don't have over info that helps clear him like I do for every other player.

Do you think a party ability from a scum is at all a possibility? That's what Bisected is insinuating, and it'd be a very strange ability for scum to have, considering it kind of hurts scum with town having more discussion time...

[FM-Silent Night]

Im sure we will circle back and look at everyone again as the game goes on. Even if Matrix is cult the fact a conversion mechanic existed will keep some level of paranoia as the game goes on and reads will have to be re-visited. Then there is the fact that the spy was super concerned about a potential disguiser.

Something really tin-foil makes me a little worried it could be because they had a disguiser function and them going quite was it going to use. But it will be a tough role to play given how many people have shared chats and how much information about chats has been shared through chats..

[FM-Silent Night]

Do you think a party ability from a scum is at all a possibility? That's what Bisected is insinuating, and it'd be a very strange ability for scum to have, considering it kind of hurts scum with town having more discussion time...

Possible. But honestly it would be kinda silly. If it existed I would expect it would be on Matrix given their role was about being a chat God. Giving them free reign would make sense..

As a separate function it makes less sense to me for a scum utility. They don't gain anything but claim WIFOM from that really.

[FM-Gravity Falls]

Possible. But honestly it would be kinda silly. If it existed I would expect it would be on Matrix given their role was about being a chat God. Giving them free reign would make sense..

As a separate function it makes less sense to me for a scum utility. They don't gain anything but claim WIFOM from that really.

@FM-Bisected Souls you should use it then

[FM-Bisected Souls]

I know his role/what he claims and one of his abilities/ he only told me one ability. it's not even that useful/a huge loss for town if the slot is removed.
Still doesn't answer how he ended up in one of the chats I was in, since All Stars didn't add him., and I don't see how that ties in with the role he claimed.
no clue what he's talking about when it comes to Allstars tho

This is a lie
maybe unintented
but i did a full role claim

[FM-Bisected Souls]

You have party powers?

Im a master of this ability

[FM-Gravity Falls]

Im a master of this ability

how the heck did you do that

[FM-Gravity Falls]

how the heck did you do that

k wait I see now lol

[FM-Mid-Atlantic]

This is a lie
maybe unintented
but i did a full role claim

it's true, I double checked. he did claim more than one ability. I apologize. still not as useful though

[FM-Wilder Wastelander]

I know his role/what he claims and one of his abilities/ he only told me one ability. it's not even that useful/a huge loss for town if the slot is removed.
Still doesn't answer how he ended up in one of the chats I was in, since All Stars didn't add him., and I don't see how that ties in with the role he claimed.
no clue what he's talking about when it comes to Allstars tho

Sounds like a spy role, no?

[FM-Mid-Atlantic]

Sounds like a spy role, no?

nah, not even close really
basically delays role flip, join a chat (why he joined the chat, just realized) and party host

[FM-Wilder Wastelander]

According to this dialogue, Bisected looks more townie for me. But still suspicious.

[FM-Wilder Wastelander]

nah, not even close really
basically delays role flip, join a chat (why he joined the chat, just realized) and party host

Still useful ability for town. Especially if he can join cult chat.

[FM-Wilder Wastelander]

If he can just see that there is silence in the cultist chat, we can understand that there is only one cultist left.

[FM-Silent Night]

Valid question though- What possible town utility exists from delaying a flip?

[FM-Bisected Souls]

nah, not even close really
basically delays role flip, join a chat (why he joined the chat, just realized) and party host

Not delays of flip, delays of DEATH
Also thanks for claiming for me m
aybe i should claim for you aswell? Huh?

[FM-Mid-Atlantic]

Not delays of flip, delays of DEATH
Also thanks for claiming for me m
aybe i should claim for you aswell? Huh?

lol way to clarify that.
also, you already half did.... SO

[FM-Silent Night]

Lets wait to see if we have cult dead before we look at a mass role claim..

[FM-Silent Night]

Also some specific aspects of roles should never be revealed imo. Consider if anything is actually gained or risked first before we start information dumping.

[FM-Gravity Falls]

thing is: mid knows my role
mid knows my secrets
mid knew that i had undestroyable proof for all stars that hes town

what does this mean bisected
Was mid the only one you told this?

[FM-Mid-Atlantic]

what does this mean bisected
Was mid the only one you told this?

he told it to all stars too and pushed us to give our roles even though all stars and I already mentioned they and I already had a fair understanding of each others roles

[FM-Wilder Wastelander]

Lets wait to see if we have cult dead before we look at a mass role claim..

I claiming my role tomorrow in public if cult is dead.

[FM-Gravity Falls]

what does this mean bisected
Was mid the only one you told this?

@FM-Bisected Souls
You don't need to claim the exact details if it's an ability you're keeping hidden, but I do want to know if it IS mechanical and if you told Mid more about the details than anyone else.

[Lumi]

Play at Your Own Risk

About Self Votes and Hammers

The Vote Count bot does not recognize self-votes. But they still fully count during the EoD tally. Consider any interactions with self-votes and inducing hammers to be fair game. That is to say, if a slot is hammered to end the day when it "shouldn't" have been hammered because of self-votes, the day still ends. Or if a slot "should" be hammered because of self-votes, but isn't because self-votes don't count for the bot - then the day continues. It's not a bug, it's a feature!

@FM-Silent Night @FM-Matrix6 @FM-Last Hope @FM-All Stars @FM-Wilder Wastelander @FM-Looney Toons @FM-Gravity Falls @FM-Mid-Atlantic @FM-Once Upon a Town @FM-Bisected Souls @FM-Politico

[FM-Silent Night]

Day ended a few hours ago when we went to L1 for a second. And again when we went to L1 as it shows now. Matrix's last vote was a self vote.

We might need to hold off on chatting

[FM-Bisected Souls]

Still useful ability for town. Especially if he can join cult chat.

non factional chats only

[FM-Bisected Souls]

what does this mean bisected
Was mid the only one you told this?

the other one is dead
scp 294

[FM-Gravity Falls]

Play at Your Own Risk

About Self Votes and Hammers

The Vote Count bot does not recognize self-votes. But they still fully count during the EoD tally. Consider any interactions with self-votes and inducing hammers to be fair game. That is to say, if a slot is hammered to end the day when it "shouldn't" have been hammered because of self-votes, the day still ends. Or if a slot "should" be hammered because of self-votes, but isn't because self-votes don't count for the bot - then the day continues. It's not a bug, it's a feature!

@FM-Silent Night @FM-Matrix6 @FM-Last Hope @FM-All Stars @FM-Wilder Wastelander @FM-Looney Toons @FM-Gravity Falls @FM-Mid-Atlantic @FM-Once Upon a Town @FM-Bisected Souls @FM-Politico

does this mean day is over or no

[FM-Bisected Souls]

he told it to all stars too and pushed us to give our roles even though all stars and I already mentioned they and I already had a fair understanding of each others roles

yeah, im bad at riddles

[FM-Bisected Souls]

I claiming my role tomorrow in public if cult is dead.

ANNOUNCEMENT
you kinda did

[Lumi]

This is a good point. I think that works?

@Lag
If day's end is a hammer and a players vote is not somewhere does their no vote count as a 'sleep' or 'skip' vote?

And what happens to a player if they do break this rule?

No sleep/skip vote means that in a roleless vacuum, every day will end where a player tied for the most votes is eliminated. Someone gets chopped, no days with no elimination.

If everyone voted sleep and hammered sleep - then the EoD vote tally is 0 votes for all players. Therefore all players are tied for most votes and a random player from the whole list is eliminated.

If no one voted all day - then the EoD vote tally will also be 0 votes for all players. Therefore all players are tied for most votes and a random player from the whole list is eliminated.

[FM-Wilder Wastelander]

If I understand Lag correctly, the day is over.

[FM-Bisected Souls]

@FM-Bisected Souls
You don't need to claim the exact details if it's an ability you're keeping hidden, but I do want to know if it IS mechanical and if you told Mid more about the details than anyone else.

yes, i explained everything, EVERYTHING in the chat

[FM-Silent Night]

-vote FM-Matrix6

Matrix last vote that is not included in the counter. This means L1 was a hammer which we are at now. Probably better to stop chatting so host can catch up.

[FM-Gravity Falls]

does this mean day is over or no

@Lag does this mean day is over or no

[Lumi]

Play at Your Own Risk

About Self Votes and Hammers

The Vote Count bot does not recognize self-votes. But they still fully count during the EoD tally. Consider any interactions with self-votes and inducing hammers to be fair game. That is to say, if a slot is hammered to end the day when it "shouldn't" have been hammered because of self-votes, the day still ends. Or if a slot "should" be hammered because of self-votes, but isn't because self-votes don't count for the bot - then the day continues. It's not a bug, it's a feature!

@FM-Silent Night @FM-Matrix6 @FM-Last Hope @FM-All Stars @FM-Wilder Wastelander @FM-Looney Toons @FM-Gravity Falls @FM-Mid-Atlantic @FM-Once Upon a Town @FM-Bisected Souls @FM-Politico

If the bot doesn't end the day, then the day continues.

The bot hasn't ended this day, so the day is still live.

[Lumi]

@Lag does this mean day is over or no

The day is not over.

[FM-Bisected Souls]

ergh may i go for party or for self pres for d3 lynch

[FM-Gravity Falls]

yes, i explained everything, EVERYTHING in the chat

Was All Stars only confirmed town to you, or were they confirmed town to Mid Atlantic as well? Basically, if you had not mentioned All Stars was confirmed town, would Mid have known? When did this explanation happen?

[FM-Bisected Souls]

and also, i will have to activvate delay at n3 at all lol
so either now, or next night
have party locked in rn

[FM-Bisected Souls]

Was All Stars only confirmed town to you, or were they confirmed town to Mid Atlantic as well? Basically, if you had not mentioned All Stars was confirmed town, would Mid have known? When did this explanation happen?

so at n0, all stars had the player list shown and should have tooken a random player, and to this smth would have happened.
star didnt know what will happen with that player.
IF star and mid where s/s team, then their interaction at start, BEFORE i showed up(i entered oonly n1) would have been wayy different. IF star would have been scum, then he would have taken action from chat
it was kinda a behaviour read, just star didnt knew that anyone will ever see it or know it what he is doing
and yes, i was thinking bout MID being scum, and killing town confirmed
however, why would have MID then pointed out the not fully posted flip to lag? he was the only one besides me who knew of that chat and how it works etc, so he was the only one who knew that flip wasnt full. (except stars was in other chats and said there? is that possible?)

[FM-Gravity Falls]

so at n0, all stars had the player list shown and should have tooken a random player, and to this smth would have happened.
star didnt know what will happen with that player.
IF star and mid where s/s team, then their interaction at start, BEFORE i showed up(i entered oonly n1) would have been wayy different. IF star would have been scum, then he would have taken action from chat
it was kinda a behaviour read, just star didnt knew that anyone will ever see it or know it what he is doing
and yes, i was thinking bout MID being scum, and killing town confirmed
however, why would have MID then pointed out the not fully posted flip to lag? he was the only one besides me who knew of that chat and how it works etc, so he was the only one who knew that flip wasnt full. (except stars was in other chats and said there? is that possible?)

So this isn't mechanical
nevermind then, this doesn't really mean anything...

[FM-Bisected Souls]

So this isn't mechanical
nevermind then, this doesn't really mean anything...

s! star would NEVER done what he did

[FM-Bisected Souls]

Ergh soon i will die, this night
And my abilities will be gone

[FM-Bisected Souls]

I already see the night kill incoming