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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Quote Originally Posted by Lag View Post
    @Renegade

    The thing I'm struggling with most is, if PQ is town, then did Martin just give town a congress chat with 3 town in it?? Or which between oliver and Gikkle is the wolf?

    The only scenario I can imagine a 3 person town congress is if wolves have a 2 person team consisting of two of SA/Mayor/Judge (but lmao if that's the case this game)

    Because otherwise if all 3 of them are town, that means that there are 3 wolves among Gov, Medic, Judge, Mayor. But can't have Mayor + Judge because a 3 person team with two vote power manipulators gives town one less mis-chop before they lose.

    But given the way you're playing this day, the only possible team would be Pao/MM/SB16
    But even typing out a Medic, Gov, Judge team feels silly because that's OP for wolves lol.

    Which means there's just a wolf in the congress
    This is what I'm saying, one of Gikkle/Oliverz is scum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    Or better
    Im happy with no lynch
    Yes
    I will refrain from voting
    Is eod in 5h?!?
    Huh? How much sleep did you get? Town can only eliminate Mafia by lynching. By not voting you are only allowing Mafia to cast their votes and induce a lynch by plurality. There will not be a "no lynch" and voting for no-lynch is not allowed in this setup. Even 1 vote, if highest count, will trigger a lynch (and even if 0 votes, host probably just RNG all 8 players lol and lynch 1).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    I honestly feel that MM and SB pushing PQ today clears him. But I think it will be difficult to get others to realize this since I have scum equity and Lag already thinks the team is me + PQ + Paopan.

    Lag, Oliverz, Gikkle, and Paopan:

    At least ONE of SB/MM is scum. Them both being on PQ is extremely concerning.

    At least entertain the idea that I am town. In that scenario, what would the teams be in your mind?
    @Gikkle @Lag @NotPaopan @Oliver s144
    @oliverz144 @Gikkle @NotPaopan I need a response to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    I'm just terrified we hit wrong between MM and SB and game is basically over.
    If we suppose there is only 1 scum in MM+SB, then that would mean 2 scum in Gikkle+Lag+Oliver (or Paopan trolled us hard as a mastermind scum~Medic and as a genius expressed willingness to lynch either MM or SB). I don't think this is likely, but if I entertain the idea, then let's look at the possibilities.

    First, assuming MM is scum.

    MM+Gikkle+Oliver would mean 2 scum Congressmen, which I find unlikely. And oliver has been wary of Gikkle/3rd CMAN unless I got played in C-chat and they were teammates all along. Anyway, I doubt this is the case, but let me know what you think.

    MM+Gikkle+Lag. Plausible, PR+CMAN+Voter. But do we believe MM+Lag were bussing each other this heavily D2? If so, then maybe they deserve the win. Do you think MM+Lag could have been bussing to this extent? (I don't)

    MM+Lag+Oliver. Plausible PR+Voter+CMAN. This is one I need to check more into, as it is concerning that Oliver has not committed to being willing to lynch MM. But this would also mean that Oliver bussed Lag by keeping vote on her D2 and by voting her again D3 and responding to her comments negatively today. Why do this D3 if he could sit back and wait for people to vote PQR or SB. I will also remind that Oliver unvoted me when I reached L-1 (or was it L-2? I forget, but it's when I felt obligated to reveal as CMAN and did so) D2. There are other hints that Oliver is not team with Lag, like him pointing out to MM when Lag (now known to be fake-)claimed Medic. And then there is this, which I doubt Oliver as scum would put this trio into suspect list (1 scum in 3), then proceed to kill Loldebite and bring it to 1 in 2.

    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    Guys
    Are you blind
    There is a scum in lag, gikkle, loldebite

    There has to be one
    No town cmen would ever fake claim voter
    And there is 1 cmen less than needed
    And 1 voter more than real
    There is a scum cmen in the voters claim
    No town cmen would claim voter


    Next, I will post what if SB is scum and MM is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PQRnHack View Post
    If we suppose there is only 1 scum in MM+SB, then that would mean 2 scum in Gikkle+Lag+Oliver (or Paopan trolled us hard as a mastermind scum~Medic and as a genius expressed willingness to lynch either MM or SB). I don't think this is likely, but if I entertain the idea, then let's look at the possibilities.

    Spoiler : to avoid large walls :
    First, assuming MM is scum.

    MM+Gikkle+Oliver would mean 2 scum Congressmen, which I find unlikely. And oliver has been wary of Gikkle/3rd CMAN unless I got played in C-chat and they were teammates all along. Anyway, I doubt this is the case, but let me know what you think.

    MM+Gikkle+Lag. Plausible, PR+CMAN+Voter. But do we believe MM+Lag were bussing each other this heavily D2? If so, then maybe they deserve the win. Do you think MM+Lag could have been bussing to this extent? (I don't)

    MM+Lag+Oliver. Plausible PR+Voter+CMAN. This is one I need to check more into, as it is concerning that Oliver has not committed to being willing to lynch MM. But this would also mean that Oliver bussed Lag by keeping vote on her D2 and by voting her again D3 and responding to her comments negatively today. Why do this D3 if he could sit back and wait for people to vote PQR or SB. I will also remind that Oliver unvoted me when I reached L-1 (or was it L-2? I forget, but it's when I felt obligated to reveal as CMAN and did so) D2. There are other hints that Oliver is not team with Lag, like him pointing out to MM when Lag (now known to be fake-)claimed Medic. And then there is this, which I doubt Oliver as scum would put this trio into suspect list (1 scum in 3), then proceed to kill Loldebite and bring it to 1 in 2.





    Next, I will post what if SB is scum and MM is not.
    Yeah, I don't see MM+Lag together as scum.

    Oliverz is really concerning me which his goofiness today. Voting Lag too.

    Of the three unfortunately I would say Oliverz + Gikkle + MM makes the most sense, provided MM is scum.

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    I have no time rn, just checking to see where we're going and ?????????? WHY AM I THE LEADING TRAIN
    @Lag @oliverz144 @Gikkle you three are probably town; worst case scenario, one of you is scum. Please do not forget to place a vote on PQ. And if you are not already convinced that this is the way to go, just check EoDs, the votecounts, the circumstances around them and - Heaven forbid - my posts about PQ if you haven't read them for real yet. See the spam, see the lynch deflection (twice), see the disingenuous behavior....

    Also, Renegade is only strenghtening my scumread on them by literally suggesting I'm scum with PQ. Like, you need to smoke some serious stuff to think that for real xD. I've been trying to lynch him since D1, and had many occasions to get him 100 % spared while remaining unsuspected. For example, I could easily have not posted a "PLOT TWIST" post about my read on Voss and kept scumreading him; if you check the votecount on D2, that would have turned the 50/50 into a 100 % Voss lynch. This is really as simple as it gets, and town!Renegade not seeing this makes no sense, considering he's not a noob or a really low-tier player.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.

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    I will try to be back before EoD if possible, but I cannot promise anything. Going off
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I have no time rn, just checking to see where we're going and ?????????? WHY AM I THE LEADING TRAIN
    @Lag @oliverz144 @Gikkle you three are probably town; worst case scenario, one of you is scum. Please do not forget to place a vote on PQ. And if you are not already convinced that this is the way to go, just check EoDs, the votecounts, the circumstances around them and - Heaven forbid - my posts about PQ if you haven't read them for real yet. See the spam, see the lynch deflection (twice), see the disingenuous behavior....

    Also, Renegade is only strenghtening my scumread on them by literally suggesting I'm scum with PQ. Like, you need to smoke some serious stuff to think that for real xD. I've been trying to lynch him since D1, and had many occasions to get him 100 % spared while remaining unsuspected. For example, I could easily have not posted a "PLOT TWIST" post about my read on Voss and kept scumreading him; if you check the votecount on D2, that would have turned the 50/50 into a 100 % Voss lynch. This is really as simple as it gets, and town!Renegade not seeing this makes no sense, considering he's not a noob or a really low-tier player.
    Please please please address the main topic at hand. Which is, assume I'm town, then don't you find it concerning that both YOU and SB are on PQ today?

    That is where I'm coming from.

    If you are town then FMPOV Stealth is scum, but you've been townreading them.

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    Second, assuming that SB16 is scum and MM is not.

    SB+Lag+Oliver is not likely as it would mean Oliver is a genius bussing both SB and Lag with his votes on them today. And he could have taken the opportunity to sit back and put a vote on PQR or MM.
    SB+Gikkle+Oliver is not likely for same reasons as in earlier post (2 CMEN scum, Oliver openly expressing concern about scum in Gikkle+Lag+Lolde).
    SB+Gikkle+Lag. Plausible, PR+CMAN+Voter. I need to look into this one further. I do see that SB voted Lag at one point, will check how that looks for a possible bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Please please please address the main topic at hand. Which is, assume I'm town, then don't you find it concerning that both YOU and SB are on PQ today?

    That is where I'm coming from.

    If you are town then FMPOV Stealth is scum, but you've been townreading them.
    NO, I do not find it concerning that someone I have been townreading since D1 sees what I am seeing about the bloody obvious scum lol. And your reasoning for this seems to be "they're PRs so one has to be scum", which is really just setup speculation and is unreliable, as was already said in the thread. The main topic at hand is that PQ is literally the scummiest person I've seen in a long time for reasons I've laid out countless times, not setup speculation-related cloudy hypotheticals.

    AND NOW I'M OFF FOR REAL
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    You're riding this PQ hack scum train since day 1, but I've seen nothing but sincere game solving from him from D2 on.
    in the off-chance you're town, please check EoDs and just see how he escapes lynches magically and random townies who shouldn't have been lynched according to thread logic magically get lynched instead
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.

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    @Renegade

    I woke up expecting some sort of solve from you, but instead right now it looks more like you're polling the room to see if you can get a town to flip to wolf side and make the votes 4v4

    Like I get how things are concerning... Assuming you're town. But there is little reason to make that assumption without a plausible alternative

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    Bruh. D1 d2 i was conftown lock to you
    Bow im not
    -vote lag
    Oliver please read the posts in full

    I'm saying these teams are unlikely because I consider you obvtown

    Like I think the wolves are Pao, PQ, and Ren because I think you are town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lag View Post
    @Renegade

    I woke up expecting some sort of solve from you, but instead right now it looks more like you're polling the room to see if you can get a town to flip to wolf side and make the votes 4v4

    Like I get how things are concerning... Assuming you're town. But there is little reason to make that assumption without a plausible alternative
    This is the solve.

    If stealth flips town, then it goes to 7 alive, 2-3 scum. Assuming a townie dies and I survive at night, then it goes tomorrow to 6 people, at least 2 of which are scum, and me plus two town is a majority of 4 votes. If stealth flips town MM has to be scum and we vote MM tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Day 3 lynch: Stealth, 7 players remaining
    If Stealth is town
    Townie dies at night, 6 players remaining
    Left with Mayor + at least 2 town to vote MM.
    Day 4 lynch: MM
    If medic is dead, and they kill me at night, it could go to 2v2. Game over?

    Fuck
    Unfortunately, it is worse than that, because you're assuming all 3 town vote in unison D4 and not a single townie mis-votes (although mafia killing you or Pao should at least convince Lag that her triple suspects are not correct; that is assuming Lag is even town but I still think she is, as opposed to Gikkle). We definitely need to lynch mafia today.

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    D3 Lynch MM, flips scum.
    N3 kill Pao or Rene (assuming mafia wins the 50%)
    D4 4 towns remaining with likely 3 votes (SB scum), 2 mafia remaining. Town is still OK but need to vote in unison and lynch a Mafia.

    D3 lynch SB, flips scum.
    N3 kill Pao or Rene (assuming mafia wins the 50%)
    D4 4 towns remaining with 4-5 votes, 2 mafia remaining. Town can afford a mislynch.

    Assume we lynch a mafia today (as the failure to do so is a terrible situation). Which lynch would be more informative (considering we still need to correctly identify 2nd and 3rd suspects)? Either one would clear Pao, PQ, and Rene (one of Pao/Rene will not be here D4, I am sure, and that will also become a 2nd clearing as they flip green) and at least allow remaining 2 townies (besides myself and the survivor in Pao/Rene) on D4 to correct their erroneous view (if applicable, such as if Lag is town) of the game as of D3 (those 2 remaining townies would be among survivor of SB/MM lynch + Gikkle + Lag + Oliver).

    SB16 flipping red largely clears Oliver, while MM flipping red does not clear Oliver. From that POV, coupled with town's opportunity for a mislynch D4, seems like SB16 would be the better lynch unless we strongly believe MM is more likely scum than SB (better than a 50/50). I still think both of them are scum, so to me it is as good as 50/50 anyway, if not for additional benefits of one vs the other, like what I stated above.

    @Renegade is there any way that either Gikkle or Lag gets cleared by one or the other (MM,SB) flipping red? I think not, but may as well hear from you and others, in case I missed something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    I honestly feel that MM and SB pushing PQ today clears him. But I think it will be difficult to get others to realize this since I have scum equity and Lag already thinks the team is me + PQ + Paopan.

    Lag, Oliverz, Gikkle, and Paopan:

    At least ONE of SB/MM is scum. Them both being on PQ is extremely concerning.

    At least entertain the idea that I am town. In that scenario, what would the teams be in your mind?
    @Gikkle @Lag @NotPaopan @Oliver s144
    As I have mentioned earlier.
    Good thunder domes for today are mainly between SB/MM.
    On the other hand, Gikkle/Lag works for everyone too.

    To be honest I wanted to get rid of MM because he already pocketed Oliver/Gikkle. And him flipping scum would help us proceed.
    Another much safer option that I'm okay with is a thunder dome between Gikkle and Lag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotPaopan View Post
    As I have mentioned earlier.
    Good thunder domes for today are mainly between SB/MM.
    On the other hand, Gikkle/Lag works for everyone too.

    To be honest I wanted to get rid of MM because he already pocketed Oliver/Gikkle. And him flipping scum would help us proceed.
    Another much safer option that I'm okay with is a thunder dome between Gikkle and Lag.
    Would you consider voting SB?

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    So assuming Gikkle is scum and mafia land a kill N3, we start D4 with 4 town and 2 Mafia. Town will still have at least 3 votes so we're good for a 3v2 (voting choice may be restricted depending on Pardon)
    a) If D4 we lynch another mafia, then we're still good because after N4 kill, we start D5 with 3 town (at least 2 votes) and 1 mafia.
    b) if D4 we mislynch a townie, then they kill N4, we arrive at D5 at a 2v2. The 2v2 is either lost by town when SB16 is scum (removes 1 of town's 2 votes) or it's a straight 2v2 (because mafia would have killed town~SB N4). Not a good situation, so I would say that if we lynch Gikkle D3 (and is scum) then we must also correctly lynch scum D4.

    So what advantage is there to lynching Gikkle D3 as opposed to on a later day? It's like postponing the decision we eventually have to make (either now D3 or later D4 after lynching Gikkle) about MM/SB. By lynching Scum~Gikkle, would we learn anything new to help improve the voting decisions later on? I would not count on MM or SB to switch votes to Gikkle D3, so I dont think there will be information to be gained (not to mention that if there were to be any information, it could be just scum voting another scum Gikkle to deceive us). Maybe we could try to gain information from MM/SB (if one of them is even town) after they realize Gikkle was scum therefore PQ Pao Rene etc are not scum, but at that point it will turn into bussing (SvS) or realshow vs fakeshow (if TvS) shitshow. Would such D4 discussion improve our odds to make the right decision (compared to where we are today D3), i dont know?

    Scum SB lynch D3 provides for more flexibility D4 and a D4 mislynch is survivable.

    Scum MM lynch D3 is comparable to Scum Gikkle lynch (aside from Pardon use available to MM).

    Town *whoever* lynch D3 is bad and almost game over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PQRnHack View Post
    So assuming Gikkle is scum and mafia land a kill N3, we start D4 with 4 town and 2 Mafia. Town will still have at least 3 votes so we're good for a 3v2 (voting choice may be restricted depending on Pardon)
    a) If D4 we lynch another mafia, then we're still good because after N4 kill, we start D5 with 3 town (at least 2 votes) and 1 mafia.
    b) if D4 we mislynch a townie, then they kill N4, we arrive at D5 at a 2v2. The 2v2 is either lost by town when SB16 is scum (removes 1 of town's 2 votes) or it's a straight 2v2 (because mafia would have killed town~SB N4). Not a good situation, so I would say that if we lynch Gikkle D3 (and is scum) then we must also correctly lynch scum D4.

    So what advantage is there to lynching Gikkle D3 as opposed to on a later day? It's like postponing the decision we eventually have to make (either now D3 or later D4 after lynching Gikkle) about MM/SB. By lynching Scum~Gikkle, would we learn anything new to help improve the voting decisions later on? I would not count on MM or SB to switch votes to Gikkle D3, so I dont think there will be information to be gained (not to mention that if there were to be any information, it could be just scum voting another scum Gikkle to deceive us). Maybe we could try to gain information from MM/SB (if one of them is even town) after they realize Gikkle was scum therefore PQ Pao Rene etc are not scum, but at that point it will turn into bussing (SvS) or realshow vs fakeshow (if TvS) shitshow. Would such D4 discussion improve our odds to make the right decision (compared to where we are today D3), i dont know?

    Scum SB lynch D3 provides for more flexibility D4 and a D4 mislynch is survivable.

    Scum MM lynch D3 is comparable to Scum Gikkle lynch (aside from Pardon use available to MM).

    Town *whoever* lynch D3 is bad and almost game over.
    If we are going to the Gikkle route, that's definitely more of letting all power roles alive.
    Gikkle/Lag roles are useless whilst SB/MM slots are power slots

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotPaopan View Post
    If we are going to the Gikkle route, that's definitely more of letting all power roles alive.
    Gikkle/Lag roles are useless whilst SB/MM slots are power slots

    Oh and also, Gikkle flipping scum here would implicate MM is his scum partner.
    FMPOV

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    Quote Originally Posted by PQRnHack View Post
    Second, assuming that SB16 is scum and MM is not.

    SB+Lag+Oliver is not likely as it would mean Oliver is a genius bussing both SB and Lag with his votes on them today. And he could have taken the opportunity to sit back and put a vote on PQR or MM.
    SB+Gikkle+Oliver is not likely for same reasons as in earlier post (2 CMEN scum, Oliver openly expressing concern about scum in Gikkle+Lag+Lolde).
    SB+Gikkle+Lag. Plausible, PR+CMAN+Voter. I need to look into this one further. I do see that SB voted Lag at one point, will check how that looks for a possible bus.
    Revisiting SB+Gikkle+Lag scenario.
    SB16 voted Lag here in #778 in response to Rene's vote on Lag when Lag was MIA for a while. Can definitely be within the framework of a [super weak] bus vote, so this composition is still viable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PQRnHack View Post
    So assuming Gikkle is scum and mafia land a kill N3, we start D4 with 4 town and 2 Mafia. Town will still have at least 3 votes so we're good for a 3v2 (voting choice may be restricted depending on Pardon)
    a) If D4 we lynch another mafia, then we're still good because after N4 kill, we start D5 with 3 town (at least 2 votes) and 1 mafia.
    b) if D4 we mislynch a townie, then they kill N4, we arrive at D5 at a 2v2. The 2v2 is either lost by town when SB16 is scum (removes 1 of town's 2 votes) or it's a straight 2v2 (because mafia would have killed town~SB N4). Not a good situation, so I would say that if we lynch Gikkle D3 (and is scum) then we must also correctly lynch scum D4.

    So what advantage is there to lynching Gikkle D3 as opposed to on a later day? It's like postponing the decision we eventually have to make (either now D3 or later D4 after lynching Gikkle) about MM/SB. By lynching Scum~Gikkle, would we learn anything new to help improve the voting decisions later on? I would not count on MM or SB to switch votes to Gikkle D3, so I dont think there will be information to be gained (not to mention that if there were to be any information, it could be just scum voting another scum Gikkle to deceive us). Maybe we could try to gain information from MM/SB (if one of them is even town) after they realize Gikkle was scum therefore PQ Pao Rene etc are not scum, but at that point it will turn into bussing (SvS) or realshow vs fakeshow (if TvS) shitshow. Would such D4 discussion improve our odds to make the right decision (compared to where we are today D3), i dont know?

    Scum SB lynch D3 provides for more flexibility D4 and a D4 mislynch is survivable.

    Scum MM lynch D3 is comparable to Scum Gikkle lynch (aside from Pardon use available to MM).

    Town *whoever* lynch D3 is bad and almost game over.
    Scum MM far outweighs Gikke cos of the oliver slot.

    Yes, if we are going to avoid the power roles today, we are essentially postponing the decision today, but for tomorrow, the options are going to get thinner?I really don't want to count the chickens here yet. But let me know what do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PQRnHack View Post
    Revisiting SB+Gikkle+Lag scenario.
    SB16 voted Lag here in #778 in response to Rene's vote on Lag when Lag was MIA for a while. Can definitely be within the framework of a [super weak] bus vote, so this composition is still viable.
    That's what I also think as shown in #1464
    SB/MM + Gikkle/Lag + (3rd) Oliver/Ren

    Becos of Ren's input. I'm beginning to think we should avoid the power roles for today. And then we can decide depending on their night action who to vote tomorrow. But fuck, this looks like I'm looking away at the prize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotPaopan View Post
    Scum MM far outweighs Gikke cos of the oliver slot.

    Yes, if we are going to avoid the power roles today, we are essentially postponing the decision today, but for tomorrow, the options are going to get thinner?I really don't want to count the chickens here yet. But let me know what do you think?
    @PQRnHack if we delay the power vote, it may still keep me in the pool of Scum power from others POV. Not sure if that is a good or a bad thing.

    I feel like scum power has to be dealt with today.

 

 

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