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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Quote Originally Posted by NotPaopan View Post
    Voss.

    If you are a towny, just surrender and let us lynch you.
    We vote for you today, then PQ/Lag tomorrow until the game ends.
    I am 90% on this one. My spider sense is tingling.
    Omfg you guys are so noobs. Trust me on this one, it's Voss.
    This is another ongoing game that is on the Final 3.


    https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto...248&start=1550

    After they recently flipped me, they regretted their actions. Then they committed another mistake. They didn't listen, now the game is at the final 3 where it could've ended with 6 towns alive
    Also just realized this is an ongoing game - don't talk about on-going games, even if they're on another site, even if there is no overlap between the player lists other than you. You can mention the existence of said on-going game, you can even link to stuff like the signups page as long as everything on that page is dated prior to the start of this game. You can talk about completed games. But don't talk about anything more than the mere existence of nor link to on-going games.

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    oh my god what is even going on, this is almost h-2 and i feel like town is about to implode...
    Paopan is acting like a scumbag, oliverz is still posting air, PQR vanished, renegade took out the paint bucket... Is there 6 scum in this game or what ?!

    -vote unvote


    I still think he's scum but there may be better lynches after all, somehow ?! I want time to think.

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    @NotPaopan

    So to be clear your reasons on voting Voss are

    1 Because he’s scum
    2 Because he’s scum
    3 Trust me guys

    Based on that logic I will tell you that the earth is flat for the following reasons

    1 Because it’s flat
    2 Because it’s flat
    3 Trust me guys
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Pao isn’t able to express a good reason for voting Voss because he doesn’t have one. His two motivations right now are

    1. I need to stay alive.

    Self preservation is NAI at best and scummy at worst.

    2. Voss isn’t one of my scum mates so he’s safe to lynch

    He literally cannot come up with a reason to push Voss because he DOES NOT HAVE ONE. HE JUST WANTS A MISLYNCH. HOW CAN YOU MISS THIS?
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Sadly I don't think Popo is scum and but his idiocy is causing a total diversion and people are taking advantage of it.
    Can I perhaps interest you in some snake oil? It will cure all your ailments!
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    This is the 2nd time lolde comes out to say smth and then goes bacc into his lurking place
    This is scummy
    Are you insane ? I posted once more literally 3 minutes after that one, so that means you jumped onto saying that before waiting to see if i posted anything else... Do you realize that you are scumpainting, for... what exactly ?... If you do want to go there i'll jump onto the occasion and say that renegade did that pretty much all game, as pointed out by lag.
    I dont know Renegade but i get really, really bad vibes from that slot, i still dont know WHY you see PQR as legit... You've criticised his D2 at least once, tho. Is renegade's town really like that ?

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Quote Originally Posted by Loldebite View Post
    Are you insane ? I posted once more literally 3 minutes after that one, so that means you jumped onto saying that before waiting to see if i posted anything else... Do you realize that you are scumpainting, for... what exactly ?... If you do want to go there i'll jump onto the occasion and say that renegade did that pretty much all game, as pointed out by lag.
    I dont know Renegade but i get really, really bad vibes from that slot, i still dont know WHY you see PQR as legit... You've criticised his D2 at least once, tho. Is renegade's town really like that ?
    I don’t know dude. This shit is so confusing. There isn’t room for PQ, Pao, Ren, Lag AND Oliver to be scum. It can’t be all of them.

    This game was so simple 24 hours ago. But now Voss is on the chopping block from the fucking mos eisley alliance of shitters. This is the clearest mislynch I have ever seen. I could see a world where any of the 5 of these people flips red. I somehow expect them all too, even though they literally all can’t. It is impossible.
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    I don’t know dude. This shit is so confusing. There isn’t room for PQ, Pao, Ren, Lag AND Oliver to be scum. It can’t be all of them.

    This game was so simple 24 hours ago. But now Voss is on the chopping block from the fucking mos eisley alliance of shitters. This is the clearest mislynch I have ever seen. I could see a world where any of the 5 of these people flips red. I somehow expect them all too, even though they literally all can’t. It is impossible.
    Which slot do you think gives us the most info with their flip?

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Which slot do you think gives us the most info with their flip?
    You? But I also think you’re the least likely to flip red out of the 5.
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    I just seem him as being goofy ol popo who acts extremely strange (at least in every game I've ever played in with him).
    I need more than a meta townread here, Renren. Pao is actively pushing my #1 townread and hasn’t given a single reason as to why he’s scum.
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    I need more than a meta townread here, Renren. Pao is actively pushing my #1 townread and hasn’t given a single reason as to why he’s scum.
    Honestly I can't even read half of his posts with the spectrum of colors and nonsense.

    If you want me to vote Pao I'll vote Pao.

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Honestly I can't even read half of his posts with the spectrum of colors and nonsense.

    If you want me to vote Pao I'll vote Pao.
    If he’s town I don’t want to vote him. But I cannot see how he is town here. I want to see how he could be town because I want to narrow this pool down.
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    If I vote Popo that puts him at L-1. We still have 2 hours.
    That seems excessive, I guess. Thanks for exercising restraint.
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    My thought process here with Pao is that he could be "too scummy to be scum". But I hate that. If we lose because someone's being scummy and double and trippling down on it, I don't mind going to post game and saying "look guys, this was not my fault".

    I do want to clarify this by saying that pao's not doing anything near the anti town shit i've seen from efe or light.

    Also, when we get to end game, and if lag is scum, I don't want to hear none of this bullshit "I TOLD YOU LAG WAS SCUM, YOU SHOULD HAVE TRUSTED ME!!!" from paopan

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    If you're Judge, I'm Mayor, then who among the other powers do you think is scum if you believe Voss is town?
    We’ve got a congressman in the pool for sure because the host can’t justify putting 3 town in a permanent chat.

    You’re theoretically still a possible scum in my mind, I guess. Pao is claiming medic so that can fit the bill. But I agree, when you phrase it like that, something is missing. Hrmm. I’m annoyed.
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    We’ve got a congressman in the pool for sure because the host can’t justify putting 3 town in a permanent chat.

    You’re theoretically still a possible scum in my mind, I guess. Pao is claiming medic so that can fit the bill. But I agree, when you phrase it like that, something is missing. Hrmm. I’m annoyed.
    Why do you have to be right? >
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Claim analysis
    MM-governor
    Claimed soon when mass claim started. Prob not lying
    Paopan-medic
    Cc d1 and still stands. Prob not lying
    Lag- voter
    Created wifom d2 by claiming medic. Maybe lying
    Gikkle- voter
    Had much time claiming. Maybe lying
    Lolde- voter
    Had much time claiming. Maybe lying
    Pqrn-cmen(conf)
    Talked with him in chatzy. True cmen
    Me, oli-cmen (conf)
    See pqrn
    Voss-sa
    Had much time claiming, but rly didnt want to claim. Scum wouldnt claim such a role after n1 and would claim voter xD
    Rene-mayor(conf)
    Nothing to say
    Sb16-judge
    Claimed early aswell, had no time thinking. Prob not lying.


    Dead:
    Frinckles(t) - voter
    Guillo(t) - voter

    Group 1
    So 1 liar is prob in:
    Lag
    Gikkle
    Lolde
    Given the fact that theres no reason as town cmen to claim voter
    And that theres no reason for scum to claim it due to every1 thinking that 1 scum in cmen is conf
    Sooo the liar in group 1 is conf scum
    Soo i propose a
    Triple THUNDERDOME
    LAG, GIKKLE OR LOLDEBITE
    CHOOSE WISELY
    AT LEAST 1 IS A WIN!

    And btw: if you are town cmen, claim immediately
    Praise the Lord!

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    I need you to reword this because it makes absolutely zero sense to me. How is somebody NOT being here helpful to the town... like, at all? Content =/= alignment but actively refusing to contribute is anti-town at best and scummy at worst.
    And that is why I should have went off earlier yesterday XD. I meant to say that the fact he was inactive and would probably pop back in at EoD in a somewhat panicked state because noone really likes him would generate information because it would create a great range of various interactions (people calling him out for being inactive, people reacting to him coming back, people not doing any of these things) and would help us read both him and others by association. What you said is totally right btw lol
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Quote Originally Posted by Loldebite View Post
    I've thought a lot about this. Everybody seems to expect exactly 1 scum amongst congressmen. Why not 2 rather than only one and a voter ?
    Do you hard-claim voter? If you're congressman, now is the time to claim and admit you were just doing some fancy play syndrome

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Quote Originally Posted by Loldebite View Post
    I've thought a lot about this. Everybody seems to expect exactly 1 scum amongst congressmen. Why not 2 rather than only one and a voter ?
    That puts all the PRs that can help scum control the votes under town control. That seems like a weak scum setup, doesn’t it?
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    Claim analysis
    MM-governor
    Claimed soon when mass claim started. Prob not lying
    Paopan-medic
    Cc d1 and still stands. Prob not lying
    Lag- voter
    Created wifom d2 by claiming medic. Maybe lying
    Gikkle- voter
    Had much time claiming. Maybe lying
    Lolde- voter
    Had much time claiming. Maybe lying
    Pqrn-cmen(conf)
    Talked with him in chatzy. True cmen
    Me, oli-cmen (conf)
    See pqrn
    Voss-sa
    Had much time claiming, but rly didnt want to claim. Scum wouldnt claim such a role after n1 and would claim voter xD
    Rene-mayor(conf)
    Nothing to say
    Sb16-judge
    Claimed early aswell, had no time thinking. Prob not lying.


    Dead:
    Frinckles(t) - voter
    Guillo(t) - voter

    Group 1
    So 1 liar is prob in:
    Lag
    Gikkle
    Lolde
    Given the fact that theres no reason as town cmen to claim voter
    And that theres no reason for scum to claim it due to every1 thinking that 1 scum in cmen is conf
    Sooo the liar in group 1 is conf scum
    Soo i propose a
    Triple THUNDERDOME
    LAG, GIKKLE OR LOLDEBITE
    CHOOSE WISELY
    AT LEAST 1 IS A WIN!

    And btw: if you are town cmen, claim immediately
    What the fuck

    This is such a bad call lol. None of this is highly solving or highly informative, and chances are many are town in there. Lag and Gikkle are townreads of mine, and Loldebite is a bit of a question mark to me. Shouldn't we be lynching among the scummy ones that give info when lynched in addition to being likely red flips, which means PQ (given how much he has been a debate topic) or Paopan (for similar reasons + because I doubt he will ever be actually towny, so bringing this to LYLO is a bad idea)?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Since it looks like we're about to lynch Paopan... @PQRnHack and @NotPaopan , please give reads on eachother
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    Balancing?
    What balancing ? Why would only one be more balanced ? It changes absolutely nothing outside WIFOM. Congressman is glorified voter and would have been literal voter had you followed voss' advice.
    I have a really hard time believing the "oh host would balance like this because else..." arguments because the FACT THAT YOU THINK THAT IS AN INCENTIVE.
    Let me rephrase that :
    Thinking scum cannot be medic because his role would be useless makes medic more valuable to scum.
    In a similar manner, having 2 congressmen instead of 1 gives the second a kind of cover.

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