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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    Where tf did i tr you???
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    Bruh. Lazy anti town
    @oliverz144

    right here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loldebite View Post
    @Voss why did you breadcrumb yourself as CM if you're SA ?





    PQR has had a terrible influence on you. You definitly should've listened to Voss.
    My intention was to give the alternative universe where I was actually congressperson the room to talk about optimal congressperson play without actually confirming or denying whether i'm a congress person. Sounds like I didn't thread that line that well.

    If anyone thinks this is AI, can you walk me through why I'd fake bread crumb congress person as scum SA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    I think the Voss flip gives us the most information today.
    but i'm not scum. this is super frustrating bc i currently trust you.

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    @oliverz144

    right here.



    My intention was to give the alternative universe where I was actually congressperson the room to talk about optimal congressperson play without actually confirming or denying whether i'm a congress person. Sounds like I didn't thread that line that well.

    If anyone thinks this is AI, can you walk me through why I'd fake bread crumb congress person as scum SA?
    bruh i said that not reading everything is not good for town
    like bruh
    Im a feature phone user.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    bruh i said that not reading everything is not good for town
    like bruh
    i reread the post and blame my 3am brain for misreading the more correct meaning behind that post, sorry.

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Quote Originally Posted by Lag View Post
    Also we still have a congressperson fake-claiming voter. This seems especially egregious given that they have the means to notify the other members of congress that they plan to fake claim... but they just.. didn't?
    yeah yeah thats what im going to analyse
    claims...
    Im a feature phone user.

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    I went through his ISO to try to understand where Voss is coming from

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    I promise I'm not trying to give anyone busy work, but I'd feel a lot more comfortable giving game information to everyone (and the scum team) if someone pulls the posts for me on why sb and mm both decided to out themselves, or if someone can give me some sort of summary and reasoning on why I should claim.
    So first, he explicitly asks for someone to give a reason for why he should claim.

    I respond with this post:

    Spoiler : Why Voss should Claim :
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag View Post
    So this is why you should claim:

    I'm not Medic. I'm Voter.

    Oliver had it correct here:



    The voters jobs are to provide WIFOM for the medic. I wanted to get ahead of that and just claim Medic right out.

    And then two people claimed Voter, so I assumed mission accomplished, the real medic is covered.

    But then Paopan didn't rescind his medic claim. Meaning actually a states attorney or congressman claimed voter??

    And then you refused to claim your role as well?

    Things getting super screwy in a bad way, and now people accusing me of being states attorney that voted for myself. Feels like I'm being set up by a wolf states attorney that claimed voter to take advantage of a voter claiming medic in order to frame them + get away with doing scummy actions with their now concealed states attorney power.


    He turns around with this post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    are you seriously using a post from the first hour of the day as a reason on why we should mass claim? something you've been trying to get us to do for a while? SCUM POINTS. I wanted to know why MM and SB claimed.

    in addition to all that, because of these lies, this makes me further not want to claim. i think it's a good idea to protect state attorney, as i don't disagree with their anon vote on you.
    He literally asked for a reason why he should claim, but then calls me scum for not providing reasons as to why MM + SB claimed?? Like wtf mental jump is this?

    Look:

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    or if someone can give me some sort of summary and reasoning on why I should claim.
    I give a reason.

    He says:

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    I wanted to know why MM and SB claimed.
    ???

    And then the super scum-painty "SCUM POINTS" right after that.


    He then spends a bunch of posts just bitching about PQ's post spam.

    When he does finally get back to my slot he has this post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    Stealth said earlier that SA's vote is NAI, and I agreed with that, but...

    I'm SA and I put the vote on Lag because
    - Frinckles voted for Lag at EoD yesterday, and you, of all people should know how big of a fan I am of listening to the dead.
    - Lag deserves to remain in the hot seat because they were a top train yesterday. Figured I'd make it easier.

    Also, as added context, I pmed Martin that I wanted to put the vote on Loldebite (for the CFD attempt yesterday), but rescinded it after Frinckle's flip and thinking a little more about the CFD. Trying to resolve Frinckles vs Lag was more important than getting loldebite.
    His justifications are:
    - Frinckles voted for me.

    Except that was a self-preservation cross-vote that should carry no weight.

    And I was the counter-wagon... but I was only the CW because two people voted for me and one of them happened to be the Mayor. Like this isn't some giant counter wagon that existed for the entire day. This was a random last minute CW with 2 people on it. That's extremely weak justification.

    He even goes on to acknowledge how Frinckles vote wasn't even because he thought I was scum, and was just self-preservation. Which takes the floor out from underneath his own argument:

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    I missed the part where Frinckles voted you out of self preservation, sorry.

    Then we get to his progression post: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post951635

    So I'm obviously looking at this post from my POV, looking at where he talks about my slot.
    He starts me at a town-lean with the comment:
    "Lag/Oliverz - tossup with oliverz. I feel like there could be a scum here, but maybe this ideas was planted by someone else."

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss
    Quote Originally Posted by PQRnHack View Post
    That's absurd! Repeating for the 3rd time: I voted two times, first was opening troll vote on Renegade as Mayor; 2nd was Frinckles when I said I was placing a serious vote. Gikkle had their first troll/random vote on Frinckles and so I asked Gikkle if that persistent vote (which stuck since random phase) was good lynch or not (i.e., did the initially-random vote convert to a serious vote - and answer from Gikkle was essentially yes). In part, I wanted to check Gikkle's commitment there so they didnt skirt by with a random vote that stuck around.
    Based off this, I kinda have trouble seeing a scum make this post. It really shows consistent thought process. But itís also makes me blur the ranking with gikkle. Pqrn made a lot of bad spammy posts today. Iíd say paopan is a scum, with lag/oliverz being next likely scum, and then a 3rd between gikkle/loldebite/pqrn.
    Moves me down to "likely scum" with no explanation or analysis of my posts or interactions.

    Then just shortly after SB16 scum reads me he says:

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss
    I buy this. I think Iím going to put oliverz in the slot of just bad town. However, pqrn starts the role claim, for like nothing, but I guess I donít know what the vote counts are at this point FUCK.

    Iím pretty convinced Lag is scum here.

    Also this post. Actually a lot of posts around this donít make me see Lag as town. I literally canít fathom Lag as town.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lag View Post
    Not busy today, so I'll be here, also these wagons are absolutely terrible.

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    Voss is a slot that I've yet to see any real thoughts from him for voting me

    He starts scum-reading me after he sees SB16 scum-read me, and then he votes me after he sees Renegade say he's fine with voting me today.

    If Voss is town, then I have no clue what he's doing, because it really looks like he's just reading the room to see what slot he can push over today without any critical thought of his own.

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    And this is all made worse by the fact that Voss was just completely fine with lying about him being States Attorney, letting people think I'm States Attorney in order to get me to go over, and only claimed after he realized thread consensus was that he wouldn't be allowed to get away with that.

    -vote Voss

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    I promise I'm not trying to give anyone busy work, but I'd feel a lot more comfortable giving game information to everyone (and the scum team) if someone pulls the posts for me on why sb and mm both decided to out themselves, or if someone can give me some sort of summary and reasoning on why I should claim.
    Lag attempted to give an answer here, but at the time, I was looking for a post I hadn't seen before. I had already seen reread day1s opening posts. Come on Lag, if I didn't think it was a good idea then, why would I change my mind without reading new information?

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    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Re: S-FM 336: (Ladder) Politico II

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    Lag attempted to give an answer here, but at the time, I was looking for a post I hadn't seen before. I had already seen reread day1s opening posts. Come on Lag, if I didn't think it was a good idea then, why would I change my mind without reading new information?
    I included new information in my post??

    Like wtf are you even talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lag View Post
    So this is why you should claim:

    I'm not Medic. I'm Voter.

    Oliver had it correct here:



    The voters jobs are to provide WIFOM for the medic. I wanted to get ahead of that and just claim Medic right out.

    And then two people claimed Voter, so I assumed mission accomplished, the real medic is covered.

    But then Paopan didn't rescind his medic claim. Meaning actually a states attorney or congressman claimed voter??


    And then you refused to claim your role as well?

    Things getting super screwy in a bad way, and now people accusing me of being states attorney that voted for myself. Feels like I'm being set up by a wolf states attorney that claimed voter to take advantage of a voter claiming medic in order to frame them + get away with doing scummy actions with their now concealed states attorney power.
    Look at all this new information!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    Stealth said earlier that SA's vote is NAI, and I agreed with that, but...

    I'm SA and I put the vote on Lag because
    - Frinckles voted for Lag at EoD yesterday, and you, of all people should know how big of a fan I am of listening to the dead.
    - Lag deserves to remain in the hot seat because they were a top train yesterday. Figured I'd make it easier.

    Also, as added context, I pmed Martin that I wanted to put the vote on Loldebite (for the CFD attempt yesterday), but rescinded it after Frinckle's flip and thinking a little more about the CFD. Trying to resolve Frinckles vs Lag was more important than getting loldebite.
    This fits and makes sense. I actually totally buy it. So the question now becomes where is our 3rd congressman?
    SB16's agreement with this post is very bizarre, because the points that Voss is making aren't good points.

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    A couple of the reasons why I think you're scum Lag, is because I think you were thrown off your game with the strong, (and probably too strong) read from Oliverz out of the gate. I really haven't seen ONE post where I could give myself pause and say, yeah, scum doesn't make this post.

    Gikkle's done it. Oliverz's done it. PQRN has done it. I think even loldebite has done it too.

    And when Oliverz starts to look townier to me, it makes it look worse for you.

    Actually, as I'm typing this, there's just one post where I think you could have typed it from a town perspective. It was when you quoted oliverz and said "Come on, this is never scum" (or something similar to that). I can't at first see why scum Lag makes that post. Maybe it's a pocket attempt bc no one's REALLY scum reading oliverz (except maybe mm?)

    Sorry Lag, but like, I guess I need another game to play with you if I'm actually wrong on you.

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    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    Lag attempted to give an answer here, but at the time, I was looking for a post I hadn't seen before. I had already seen reread day1s opening posts. Come on Lag, if I didn't think it was a good idea then, why would I change my mind without reading new information?
    Also it's a bit ridiculous to say you were looking for quoted posts because you explicitly ask for a "summary"

    Your reaction to my response of "SCUM POINTS" feels very much like shade + scum-paint

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    A couple of the reasons why I think you're scum Lag, is because I think you were thrown off your game with the strong, (and probably too strong) read from Oliverz out of the gate. I really haven't seen ONE post where I could give myself pause and say, yeah, scum doesn't make this post.

    Gikkle's done it. Oliverz's done it. PQRN has done it. I think even loldebite has done it too.

    And when Oliverz starts to look townier to me, it makes it look worse for you.

    Actually, as I'm typing this, there's just one post where I think you could have typed it from a town perspective. It was when you quoted oliverz and said "Come on, this is never scum" (or something similar to that). I can't at first see why scum Lag makes that post. Maybe it's a pocket attempt bc no one's REALLY scum reading oliverz (except maybe mm?)

    Sorry Lag, but like, I guess I need another game to play with you if I'm actually wrong on you.
    oliver's read on me isn't accurate at all, I can link more than half a dozen games where it's just objectively false.

    And this vague "I really haven't seen ONE post where I could give myself pause and say, yeah, scum doesn't make this post." is the most cop-out reasoning that you can apply to literally anyone in any situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    lhf? im LHF?
    looking handsome friendly?
    Low-Hanging-Fruit

    It means that people might think you're an easy person to get chopped because you're new, so if you're town it means a wolf might push you to get an easy mis-chop without much resistance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    Lag attempted to give an answer here, but at the time, I was looking for a post I hadn't seen before. I had already seen reread day1s opening posts. Come on Lag, if I didn't think it was a good idea then, why would I change my mind without reading new information?
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag View Post
    So this is why you should claim:

    I'm not Medic. I'm Voter.

    Oliver had it correct here:



    The voters jobs are to provide WIFOM for the medic. I wanted to get ahead of that and just claim Medic right out.

    And then two people claimed Voter, so I assumed mission accomplished, the real medic is covered.

    But then Paopan didn't rescind his medic claim. Meaning actually a states attorney or congressman claimed voter??

    And then you refused to claim your role as well?

    Things getting super screwy in a bad way, and now people accusing me of being states attorney that voted for myself. Feels like I'm being set up by a wolf states attorney that claimed voter to take advantage of a voter claiming medic in order to frame them + get away with doing scummy actions with their now concealed states attorney power.
    there were ZERO new post quotes when you attempted to answer my question.

    Also, I'm going to double/triple down on the fact that weird claims resolving the medic is actually a reason to NOT claim, as there's still wifom in the game. Honestly, I'm not really sure why MM and SB16 outed themselves and said they didn't act. Like if the medic is so important in this game, and they think their powers are not useful, they should have just claimed voter as well and tried to take a bullet.

    This has got me thinking on why loldebite even put you and paopan as medic/SA. Who planted that idea, and maybe was it scum aligned to try and get me to out myself?

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    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
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    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    ok i lost my papers
    i need to find them in order to analysis claims
    ahh im in panic
    please stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop posting fluff.

    there is nothing that moves the game forward in this post.

    like honestly, if i was like 50% more asshole, I'd show everyone why we shouldn't post so damn much by starting at D1 and commenting on EVERY single post, doubling the game size. Like, "that'll show everyone how town I am! especially if no one can read the game bc Voss has so many posts!!!!!"

    but I like too many people in this game to just ruin it.

    @PQRnHack

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Voss.

    If you are a towny, just surrender and let us lynch you.
    We vote for you today, then PQ/Lag tomorrow until the game ends.
    I am 90% on this one. My spider sense is tingling.
    Omfg you guys are so noobs. Trust me on this one, it's Voss.
    This is another ongoing game that is on the Final 3.


    https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto...248&start=1550

    After they recently flipped me, they regretted their actions. Then they committed another mistake. They didn't listen, now the game is at the final 3 where it could've ended with 6 towns alive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    there were ZERO new post quotes when you attempted to answer my question.

    Also, I'm going to double/triple down on the fact that weird claims resolving the medic is actually a reason to NOT claim, as there's still wifom in the game. Honestly, I'm not really sure why MM and SB16 outed themselves and said they didn't act. Like if the medic is so important in this game, and they think their powers are not useful, they should have just claimed voter as well and tried to take a bullet.

    This has got me thinking on why loldebite even put you and paopan as medic/SA. Who planted that idea, and maybe was it scum aligned to try and get me to out myself?
    You asked for a summary. This is the most ridiculous reasoning I've ever seen.

    Like Voss. If you're town please help me see that right now, since FMPOV it feels like you're scum-painting me because all your reasons are either bad, or they boil down to "I really haven't seen ONE post where I could give myself pause and say, yeah, scum doesn't make this post." Which is a super cop-out reason, and even then you go on to say "Actually, as I'm typing this, there's just one post where I think you could have typed it from a town perspective"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lag View Post
    You asked for a summary. This is the most ridiculous reasoning I've ever seen.

    Like Voss. If you're town please help me see that right now, since FMPOV it feels like you're scum-painting me because all your reasons are either bad, or they boil down to "I really haven't seen ONE post where I could give myself pause and say, yeah, scum doesn't make this post." Which is a super cop-out reason, and even then you go on to say "Actually, as I'm typing this, there's just one post where I think you could have typed it from a town perspective"

    Shut up Lag. I saw you and Voss are bussing each other. After Voss flip Mafia, you are next. Then PQ if game doesn't end

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    please stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop posting fluff.

    there is nothing that moves the game forward in this post.

    like honestly, if i was like 50% more asshole, I'd show everyone why we shouldn't post so damn much by starting at D1 and commenting on EVERY single post, doubling the game size. Like, "that'll show everyone how town I am! especially if no one can read the game bc Voss has so many posts!!!!!"

    but I like too many people in this game to just ruin it.

    @PQRnHack
    Before this game started you asked me why everyone doesn't just play on MU.

    I said there are reasons for that, which I could explain. You said there's no need to explain.

    Well, let me explain anyway: a recent game I played there had more posts in the first 17 hours of the game than this game has had in total so far. The game was a 13 slot game with 48/24 phases too - so pretty much the same size/format as this one.

    lol. Also I realize the irony in posting this as this is also a fluff post

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotPaopan View Post
    Okay, I have read up to the latest.

    I think I have an idea who are the scums, and it's definitely Voss, PQ, and Lag

    My first decree, is to lynch Voss first. Then PQ and Lag afterwards once the Mafia flip has been confirmed.

    I know... I know... There are lots of people here scum painting me cos I'm busy, but we shall prevail.

    Let's push Voss out.
    The roles fit and is perfectly balanced: SA, Congress, and Voter.

    If I am host. That's how I am going to balance it out.
    Someone meld into my idea right now.
    I'll carry town and carry on the banner of socialism!
    Ok. WHY?
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    I'm sure.. 100% clownbomber16 is scum. I'll suck my own dick if I'm wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotPaopan View Post

    Shut up Lag. I saw you and Voss are bussing each other. After Voss flip Mafia, you are next. Then PQ if game doesn't end
    I can't tell which is a bigger joke, the fact that you think Voss and me could ever be w/w, or your posts this game so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    please stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop posting fluff.

    there is nothing that moves the game forward in this post.

    like honestly, if i was like 50% more asshole, I'd show everyone why we shouldn't post so damn much by starting at D1 and commenting on EVERY single post, doubling the game size. Like, "that'll show everyone how town I am! especially if no one can read the g


    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    ame bc Voss has so many posts!!!!!"

    but I like too many people in this game to just ruin it.

    @PQRnHack
    Ok ok ok chill.
    Chill.
    Lag+gikkle wanted ma reads
    I promised that ill give claim analysis
    Now i said why that analysis will be delayed
    Given the fact that EOD is in less than 3 hours, i need to either get my shit together or fail to lynch scum now
    Im a feature phone user.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotPaopan View Post
    Voss.

    If you are a towny, just surrender and let us lynch you.
    We vote for you today, then PQ/Lag tomorrow until the game ends.
    I am 90% on this one. My spider sense is tingling.
    Omfg you guys are so noobs. Trust me on this one, it's Voss.
    This is another ongoing game that is on the Final 3.


    https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto...248&start=1550

    After they recently flipped me, they regretted their actions. Then they committed another mistake. They didn't listen, now the game is at the final 3 where it could've ended with 6 towns alive
    Pao what the fuck are you doing what is this GARBAGE

    How can ANYONE be voting Voss over this? This is blatantly scum at this point. Goddamn it.
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    How dare you send me another box of cereal
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    congrats you're an inspiration to pedophiles everywhere
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuesford View Post
    I'm sure.. 100% clownbomber16 is scum. I'll suck my own dick if I'm wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Plotato View Post
    if you are still confused i have a stellar comeback which involves more insulting of the french.
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotPaopan View Post

    Shut up Lag. I saw you and Voss are bussing each other. After Voss flip Mafia, you are next. Then PQ if game doesn't end
    If Lag flips mafia no matter what I flip, then why would you vote for me?

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
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