13 Minutes Remaining.. Anyone Have Any Final Thoughts?
13 Minutes Remaining.. Anyone Have Any Final Thoughts?
Now that's an euphemism...
Please save me from this game, do vote me. *Furious mag screaming in the background*
I feel kinda sad that the game would've likely been the exact same had i stayed afk... Actually it might've been harder for scum. That's how bad i think i've played
Wrath is a bad vote today.
Like, even if he flips wolf, he's still a bad vote and town just lucked into him being wolf.
Day Is Over Please Stop Posting And Stand By For Host EOD Review..
DAY 3 ENDED.
SuperJack (3 [L-2]):
MartinGG99, Lag, Light_Yagami
Loldebite (1 [L-4]):
WrathCyber (2 [L-3]):
SuperJack has been eliminated !
SuperJack's role was :
Spoiler : ROLE :
No last will was found.
NIGHT 3 HAS STARTED.
DAYS HOURS MINUTES SECONDS
DO NOT FORGET TO SEND THE MANDATORY TOKEN TO SOMEONE ELSE BY PMING ME (DISCORD OR FORUM).
The game has reached an end.
The Souls have won the game.
The remaining scum member wanted to sub out, and considering the state of the game, it would not be pleasant to play the game anymore as a possible replacement.
Sorry to whoever expected this to last longer.
Yeah We Were Last Scum You Almost Had Us Lag...lol JK GG ALL
GG everyone, ty @Auwt for hosting!
Gg everyone. Thank you for hosting @Auwt
This game town played extremely well, and just stomped because of it.
Early on there were suspicions between various town slots but through active play most all of the town managed to find each other and correctly box in the wolves.
what a thing to wake up to lol, ggs
Nice game everyone.
Thank you auwt.
Im a feature phone user.
@Marshmallow Marshall played well and had already projected himself as consensus town from a very early part of the game despite having fewer posts than many other slots. That level of town-energy efficiency is why wolves hate playing against MM. He did the same thing in the offsite game we played together and had to be nightkilled night 1 as a result in that game, but with no factional kill, wolves were just stuck with his town energy
@SuperJack mis-chop was largely my doing, but it's not because anyone even misplayed. By virtue of making a viable counterwagon opportunity on day 2, it virtually cleared everyone that was sticking to their guns on the Ozy push. Did it put him personally in a bad spot that needed to be flipped? I think it did, which is why I pushed him so hard (sorry SJ!) but as SuperJack said himself, sometimes townies die, sometimes they need to be flipped, it's a part of the game. And his actions on day 2 to help clear several town were just as instrumental to the win as the players he cleared.
@Loldebite also came in to days 2 and 3 with lots of town energy. I was telling oliver in our chat last night that Loldebite should never be dying today - he's just town here and if anything a deep wolf is more likely than Loldebite being a wolf, great town energy from him despite starting the game late
@Light_Yagami @PQRnHack I am pretty sure Light and I "scum-read" each other at least half a dozen times throughout the game, but never enough to warrant even attempting to push each other. And then PQ's decision to vote Ozy rather than oliver when presented the chance just cleared their slot as town for the rest of the game. Good play all around from them.
@Gikkle finding Varcron as an independently wolfy slot on day 1 helped us create the day 1 counterwagon that ended up clearing almost the entire town. If it weren't for that initiative from Gikkle, who knows if Ozy would have faced such scrutiny on day 2, who knows if the Mizery wagon could have been interpreted correctly or if paranoia of deep wolves would have set in. And Wrath's day 1 bus would have provided him far more town-cred than he ended up receiving if it weren't for the counter-wagon.
But the slot that I want to vote for MVP is:
@MartinGG99 and @Stealthbomber16 admittedly I didn't really pay any attention to Stealth because by the time he was in the game, I had already slotted Martin as town. But Martin and I went back and forth several times on day 1, he went from a slot I was scum-reading all the way up to being a solid town read - and that was just off the back of what he was posting. That level of swing without the help of any mechanics or wagonomics to clear him is what I consider to be an MVP level performance.
If he didn't make himself so townie on day 1, then much more scrutiny gets applied to his decision to switch off of Mizery on to Ozy, maybe he gets wagoned for doing the switch to "save" Mizery instead of pushing forward on Ozy. Who knows how the game could have been different there. But his posting made me confident enough in his slot that I was more willing to label the day 1 Ozy wagon as a pure wagon over the day 1 Mizery wagon as a pure wagon, despite Mizery being the one that flipped wolf. That day 1 play from Martin and I finding each other as town, combined with Gikkle's counter-wagon on Varcron were the foundational blocks to town's stomping victory.
When literally every town in the game is a viable MVP candidate, you know the wolves had a bad time
Lol gg! I'm not even going to vote for an MVP here because many townies just stomped this game (a lot through towncore of Olag/Gikkle/Martinbomber/MM, but also others through just being towny enough to be out of the immediate PoE) and pretty much everyone played their cards well. Well done!
It's a shame that the souls never really came into play here. The low activity actively acted against the setup mechanics.
I would love to revisit this setup in the future. I think the only change would be disallowing souls to directly quote their partners from the chat. Other than that this just felt like a standard 7v3 but I replaced into a slot day 2.
Me and @MartinGG99 were fucking power coupling it up. Our chat was awesome. That was great.
For setup balance, I don't think this run is particularly indicative of balance or not, after all, a day 1 where wolves get a town eliminated, and just 2 wolves receive a pair of tokens from town can lead to a day 2 LYLO.
(Two wolves have 2 tokens from town + 1 token from wolf teammates = 5 tokens each, day 2 is 6v3, if town miseliminates it'll go to 5v3 and the wolves will kill two people that night to make it 3v3)
The token mechanics end up making the setup very swingy which is just difficult to balance in general.
I actually really enjoyed this game (especially day 1) because normally I'm not in the fore-ground of things. I'm often not necessarily one of the leading town members I would think nor one of the main contributors to discussion. I mean, normally I'm in the middle of the pack with post-count; not at the top. So, it was very interesting just interacting almost just solely on you and trying to figure you along with everyone else while working with less than 270 posts for day 1. Most of my games (especially on other sites) have more posts per phase than that so it was challenging in a unique way.
I'm rather surprised @Stealthbomber16 and I did so well, but I think this was due in part that we were able to trust and discuss with each other. Even for things that may have been inconsequential. I can't say for certain if I would have reached different conclusions if I had only myself to completely trust, but its possible as one of the things I often find difficulty in is determining how much to listen to other's conclusions; its rare or even extremely difficult for a single person to figure out a scum-team entirely on their own so I have to listen or consider other conclusions at some point just in case I'm wrong. I think this issue of mine was most prominently on D3 where I actually listened to you more than I should have scrutinized it more in comparison to our tonal reads of SJ lol. It's a delicate balance for me that I have yet to figure out.
I don't like picking MVP's because I'll admit I often view my games through the lens of my personal accomplishments or failings (In other words being selfish); so I would probably be naturally prejudiced to vote you (Lag) or SB16 here just because I think our interactions (or in the case of SB, our discussions) were very very helpful towards those accomplishments.
Last edited by MartinGG99; November 21st, 2021 at 05:53 PM. Reason: Clarity
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
As Martin mentions Stealthbomber16, I also wanted to give a shout-out to @oliverz144 !
He was a great teammate and his day 2 play would have been clearing for our slot if the game did end up going late (a new wolf with that level of emotional conviction is just unbelievable)
Thanks for playing this setup with me oliver!
Sorry wolves for not being the most active, couldn't really keep a decent game going with thoughtful posts.
Also I was kind of confused how that D1 train that fell on me managed to keep going... Wasn't really too much there in my eyes but oh well.
Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
(๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)ﻭ 레드벨벳 ! ! ٩(♡ε♡ )۶
Mizery is hardstuck scum.
(๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)ﻭ 레드벨벳 ! ! ٩(♡ε♡ )۶